Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:27:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jerry Dunham <jdunham@fc.net> To: nadav@barcode.co.il (Nadav Eiron) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XF86 & fvwm Problem, Help? (fwd) Message-ID: <199609180227.VAA25233@freeside.fc.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960917152917.13592A-100000@gatekeeper.barcode.co.il> from "Nadav Eiron" at Sep 17, 96 03:33:22 pm
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Nadav Eiron babbled:
> From nadav@barcode.co.il Tue Sep 17 08:34:20 1996
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
> > Jerry Dunham writes:
> > >
> > > If I've logged in as root I can
> > > get back to the login screen, but I can't quit from there: ^D doesn't work
> > > and neither does your suggestion of ^[alt]-[backspace].
> >
> > ctrl-alt-backspace will kill the X server, which xdm will then
> > cheerfully restart.
> >
> > > The only way out seems to be to login as root and type "shutdown -h
> > > now". If I've logged in as dunham I can't even do that, and su
> > > doesn't work.
> >
> > > I'm going back to startx, unless you can give me some reason why I
> > > should consider xdm that isn't obvious to the uninitiated, and tell
> > > me how to REALLY get out of it.
> >
> > xdm is great for people who never want (nor need) to see a character
> > mode display. Unfortunately, not everything runs under X, and xdm
> > effectively takes away some of your freedom. I use xinit myself, and
> > for the life of me I can't recall what the difference is from startx.
> > Not much, anyway. You could consider them interchangeable.
> >
> I don't know what your other problems are, but you can always use a
> character interface on another virtual console even if xdm is running.
> The only different is you need to use ctrl-alt-Fx instead of just Alt-Fx
> to switch consoles. FWIW you may have more than one X server running as
> well (just like you have more than one virtual character cell console).
Wow! This is great news! I'm telnetted in from the office right now,
but will definitely have to try this when I get home. This is what I
REALLY needed to know!
> If you want to kill xdm - simply do it! Do ps auxw | grep xdm, and you'll
> see something like:
> root 156 0.0 0.0 292 0 ?? IW Tue07PM 0:00.09
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm
>
> Just kill that! (with kill -9 156, for example). This would kill xdm for
> good (at least if you started it from rc.local and not from /etc/ttys).
I tried that before, but I wasn't configured properly to use su and was
logged in as myself. When I logged out and then back in as root I was
sufficiently irritated that I just did the shutdown, which was really the
wrong thing. Halfway through the shutdown it dawned on me. :-(
> I see you already got an answer on how to su.
> I didn't follow this thread from the beginning, so if my input is
> irrelevant please ignore it.
Your input has been quite useful. Thanks!
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