Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:52:30 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels <jon@welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422155228.E792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <00042200321400.00340@nomad.dataplex.net>; from Richard Wackerbarth on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 12:32:14AM -0500 References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> <00042200321400.00340@nomad.dataplex.net>
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On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 12:32:14AM -0500, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > > > IIRC, the code was > > > suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI > > > and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. > > > > and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? > > > > what are they supposed to do ? > > 1) Continue to run FreeBSD 3.x. It's still a very good OS. i'm currently at freebsd v2.2.7-release .. what worries me are the security fixes i cannot make because freebsd v2.x is concidered dead meat. > 2) Buy new hardware. It is getting cheaper every year. this may be the case, but i and of those whom i speak are limited to beging, you know the kind where you take your dignity in your hand and grovel for whatever garbage the "rich" people are throwing out because it is no longer fashionable. > 3) Write new versions of the drivers. The drives are not being > dropped because anyone objects to them, but rather that there > has been no one who cares about them enough to maintain > the code. if i could i would be at the top of the list and i would be churning out code faster (with more reliablity than most of the current "wheenies"). now if i was in a position to be able to do that then i wouldn't be on teh invalid pension, because i wouldn't have the severly disabling medical deficiencies that i currently tdo have and i would be able t earn a living and i probaly would still be churning out real code in os-9 and or qnx. also, i know several groups of people who are in this exact same situation, i have for years been selling them the line that freebsd is our only hope because it supports the hardware that we can get .. now i have to tell them that we are beeing adandoned like so much garbage because we cannot put in our "pound of flesh". like the ripples on teh pond, who knows were thes small waves will end up, who know what will be the end result ? my grandmother used to teach me that helping people who couldn't help themselves was an end in and of itself, but then again she valued human dignity .. pity, we no longer concider those as adequate reasons to do the things that we do. thank you for your post richard, it is apreciated. regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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