From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Feb 11 00:35:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BDA52FD04 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 00:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from out2-59.antispamcloud.com (out2-59.antispamcloud.com [185.201.17.59]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dbd2B37jVz3p8f for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 00:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=out.niagahoster.com; s=spamexpert; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type :MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date: reply-to:sender:bcc; bh=0tydrJ/uzNhoi1DE7CJeaRTTCrjMHXM3CDY2H2MmT6M=; b=CtfpU aNW3TqDjDooNVfhWYMP3/oQOWer0gRK+jmi/6k44qd63BOvcJphi/SQFbPn75ARSOOtIrGINGgyuq iTh6dGOfTWIHiybVQxc7CvdjOlbQPSg/GXyXlEi3UkPKOW3c9H8SFyD5wZWhqWYBcvErWAP6BcVYu zO1rkifMvod45wRQzM8pyY9V5OAFGGbOoBYBjgAReQdorTToLIvaMnAT12AMCGz2P4Bow1erdFtxA EsTJDhkec0MhNrgMiFia/X0Nu84DHFuVxullPDyBC8ZZwYqOARqDY0aNmmSiDrugG9gGYWO3GB+8v TWrR9uo3PvjsoJaxDPhE3t4rJdXhg==; Received: from srv31.niagahoster.com ([153.92.8.106]) by mx163.antispamcloud.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9zhZ-000gD6-Jr; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:19:23 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sumeritec.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=0tydrJ/uzNhoi1DE7CJeaRTTCrjMHXM3CDY2H2MmT6M=; b=kGU1je9gBkYym+Bdb7eXExbFmw 4yq/XLwWXiY3mNtouN1vAZAkMxv9O7xNcTTtUHEAAqjomXmriVEQom/UbzUR6x0Xph63omyf2ymyR 5Xulfxau6U3840ZHldM5Y1738kcU+hz2lgRp3St7cW3zBPE45ypTse99bN16lzhyxrcad6YLQ3rAo Yopkk6qbocOQKpuSuwPnhEzBIAW5Uvrk7gJubp2NLGQjfZ3U3I607nFpXbwCYMMv7FFsH3Vzh3JKk fvY2px7jqDsfTugHD62WqpX4nV30H0AujQiPOrHoCtueK+ma+dOI+TLyKyG2CZDDQanCmk1Nz191I EKjatOxw==; Received: from subs12-223-255-228-83.three.co.id ([223.255.228.83]:45756 helo=Ryzen1.sumeritec.com) by srv31.niagahoster.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1l9zhN-0007rk-Es; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 07:19:11 +0700 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 08:19:07 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: RW via freebsd-questions Cc: RW Subject: Re: What are good mail hosts to use with FreeBSD mailing lists? 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I don't see any ads or give them anything that > > > isn't already public. > > > > Google knows who you are across your use of all their services, by > > identifying your computer(s). A separate Gmail account won't hide > > you from that. > > > > For example, your use of Gmail for this list will affect what > > videos Youtube suggests to you. > > I've never seen any evidence of that. I only get suggestions that > are similar to videos I watched. we work in a very specific field. When work-related e-mails land at our privat Google account, we get then links to paradise islands in the tropics. This takes a few weeks until a work-related e-mail arrives there again. > > I doubt google knows much about me, or their choice of adverts > wouldn't be so laughable. Two years I spent a couple of minutes on > their search engine (instead of DuckDuckGo) looking at garden > shredders and got ads that were dominated by shredders for months. > This is a minor improvement over ~15 years ago when I typed in "KDE > packages fruit salad servers" and got several years worth of > soft-fruit ads - mostly raspberries. Yes, they react much faster these days. Erich