From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 11 02:05:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23126 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:05:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA23114 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:05:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@y.dyson.net) Received: (qmail 15404 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 10:05:15 -0000 Received: from dyson.iquest.net (HELO y.dyson.net) (198.70.144.127) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 10:05:15 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by y.dyson.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA03785; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:05:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902111005.FAA03785@y.dyson.net> Subject: Re: Linus on IRC In-Reply-To: <79t6uv$1kq$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> from Christian Weisgerber at "Feb 11, 99 01:06:55 am" To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:05:15 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@iquest.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber said: > > You don't see much of this in other direction. To Linux people, BSD is > mostly a non-issue. It's invisible, who runs it anyway?, they're > hopelessly split up. That's what you are likely to hear. And this > attitude starts from the top down, see Linus' comment above, see ESR's > remarks, and a few months ago I witnessed Maddog Hall giving a similar > response when asked about his opinions on BSD. And the large numbers of > Linux users at the bottom pick it up. > The above notion that "BSD" isn't on their map has been true even for the last 3 or so years (per my conversations with the indoctorinated.) It is part of both a strategy of the advocates, and partly a result of the lack of information of those who know nothing else. One of the best ways to put down what you think the competition might be, is to assert their being inconsequential. The key is to not become angry, but simply ignore the political statements of those with the agenda, and the ignorance of those who know no better. The best way to combat the ignorance is to present a less narrow view of the world. BTW, my use of the word "ignorance" doesn't imply a "sin", but only a handicap. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@iquest.net | it makes one look stupid jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message