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Date:      Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:23:18 -0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
Cc:        clefevre@citeweb.net, Makoto Matsushita <matusita@jp.freebsd.org>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: PATCH: sysinstall to remove userconfig code 
Message-ID:  <20011118052318.45BBE38CC@overcee.netplex.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <200111180111.fAI1BQ756982@harmony.village.org> 

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Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <200111172343.fAHNhnw28962@gits.dyndns.org> Cyrille Lefevre writes
    :
> : Warner Losh wrote:
> : > In message <200111132009.fADK9sX50643@gits.dyndns.org> Cyrille Lefevre wr
    ites:
> : > : I don't know -current. what is the feature which replace kget ?
> : > : does boot -c (or whatever) still exists ? is it possible to
> : > : edit <KERNEL>.hints at boot time ?
> : > 
> : > set/unset works.
> : > 
> : > I've removed ISA devices at boot time by unsetting the 'at' hint.
> : 
> : thanks for the trick. but show/set/unset are really less intuitive
> : than boot -c, specifically to novice users. unfortunately, I'm not
> : forth aware at all, so, don't ask me about writting such tool using
> : forth :P
> 
> Right.  There is a forth tool available (authored I think by
> matsushita-san), and now that matsushita-san is a committer, maybe it
> will be done in time for 5.0. :-)

As a fallback, I've been threatening to do a simple userconfig-style
thing in loader itself as a fallback if necessary.. I'd rather not since
that would just make loader bigger still, but it's always there as
a quick/dirty fallback option.

If my memory serves me correctly, we dont enable bootforth on the 5.0 boot
floppies.  This is probably more a symptom of having an identical config
for floppies and cd boot.  Now that we have cdboot for i386 all but there,
we should be able to finally do a complete boot for the CD case and a
smaller stripped kernel with esoteric drivers on a seperate disk for the
floppy-only case.

Cheers,
-Peter
--
Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au
"All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5


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