From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 22 10:38:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15C52AF66A for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 20.100@defert.com) Received: from 8.mo68.mail-out.ovh.net (8.mo68.mail-out.ovh.net [46.105.74.219]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 496cN73140z44Jt for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 20.100@defert.com) Received: from player779.ha.ovh.net (unknown [10.108.57.226]) by mo68.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F5F164087 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:38:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from defert.com (ip-146-0-189-114.dyn.luxfibre.pt.lu [146.0.189.114]) (Authenticated sender: 20.100@defert.com) by player779.ha.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20DBE119D539F for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Wayland on FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Vincent DEFERT <20.100@defert.com> Message-ID: <11b61d37-9548-5182-677f-ebdf59ca6390@defert.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:38:10 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: fr X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 2203386117840242692 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrgeejgddvkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjpdevjffgvefmvefgnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucehtddtnecunecujfgurhepuffvfhfhkffffgggjggtgfesthejredttdefjeenucfhrhhomhepgghinhgtvghnthcufffghffgtffvuceovddtrddutddtseguvghfvghrthdrtghomheqnecukfhppedtrddtrddtrddtpddugeeirddtrddukeelrdduudegnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpqdhouhhtpdhhvghlohepphhlrgihvghrjeejledrhhgrrdhovhhhrdhnvghtpdhinhgvtheptddrtddrtddrtddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpedvtddruddttdesuggvfhgvrhhtrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepfhhrvggvsghsugdqqhhuvghsthhiohhnshesfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrgh X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 496cN73140z44Jt X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=defert.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 20.100@defert.com designates 46.105.74.219 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=20.100@defert.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.927,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:mail-out.ovh.net]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[defert.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[219.74.105.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.82)[ipnet: 46.105.0.0/16(2.07), asn: 16276(2.01), country: FR(0.00)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:46.105.0.0/16, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:38:16 -0000 If other people were interested in creating such a desktop environement, I would be happy to team with them. :) On 21/04/2020 20:12, Polytropon wrote: Let's just imagine Wayland on FreeBSD + Enlightenment to become a FreeBSD-native (!) desktop environment with GUI integreation for OS configuration and control... Yes, I know, this can (partially) be done with Xfce, Gnome, KDE, Lxde, but more or less, that is fighting Linuxisms and still being stuck with stuff that has been abandoned in Linux world many years ago (think about HAL and DBus). The degree of incompatibility could be increasing if the modern development of desktop environments will concentrate on Linux as the target, and on FreeBSD, you can only get 3/4 of what's technically possible.