Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:15:01 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@freebsd.org> Cc: Sergio Lenzi <lenzi@cwbtwo.bsi.com.br>, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INGRES 8.9 Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951204181043.16691B-100000@latte.eng.umd.edu> In-Reply-To: <199512031115.MAA11581@vector.enet>
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On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org wrote: > Hi, Responding to: > > From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu> > > Subject: Re: INGRES 8.9 > > Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:54:21 -0500 (EST) > > Message-id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951202184954.8717A-100000@latte.eng.umd.edu> > > Notes: > - I have removed cc: hackers@ & retained cc: ports@ > to reduce cross posting. > - I was a bit suprised to see this, as I thought I'd sent > private mail to Sergio, but I guess my mouse slipped down the > exmh scroll bar one place too far :-) > - As quoted, I was in a rush, & have volunteered to work with Sergio :-) > > > On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Sergio Lenzi wrote: > > > On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > Well I ftp'd them & had a v. quick look, > > > > For it to be considered a `FreeBSD ported package' > > > > it needs a top Makefile that is > > > > bsd make, not gnu make > > > > (you can have gnus in the work/ subdir) > > > > /usr/ingre/src is unacceptable, > > > > it must reside in /usr/ports/databases/ingres > > > > You know, Julian, there is such a thing as a package, it's not a port, > > and it already is built. I didn't think he claimed he had a port, I > > thought he said it was a package. > > Good point ! > I'd almost forgotten what a mere `package' is, now we have almost exclusively > `ports' ... I plead guilty to wishful thinking/assumption, > ( but see above: "For it to be considered a `FreeBSD ported package'" > ^^^^^^ ) > > The bin part of it surely is, > > anyways. I think it might be right to urge him to put it in as a > > port, but completely unfair to tell him he did it wrong. > > I did _NOT_ tell him he'd done it wrong ! Now you are being unfair ! > I asked him to convert it to a package, & volunteered to test it & commit it > if it was OK. > > > I like ports, you like ports, but there IS that alternative, and I think > > asking him to go that extra step is more friendly than telling him he's > > wrong because he didn't. > > > > > anyway I'm out of time, > > > > but it doesnt qualify as a FreeBSD package ... yet, > > > > > > > > Would you like to look at a few of the 400 /usr/ports/*/*/Makefile, > > > > grab the syntax out of a few, & write a makefile & DESC & pkg/ stuff, > > > > > > > > then when you've done that i'll test it & if OK commit it. > > > > As I see, the interest is growing, I'll promiss to make a > > > real "PORT", thanks to your assistance. My job in bsi.com.br (an internet > > > provider is taking me almost all of my time). > > > May be in 1 week or later a "port" will be in "place". I didn't know you had a private conversation going. I react when I see someone offering something of use to FreeBSD, and (seemingly) being offered nothing but complaints. I couldn't see anything else from what I read. I don't think I said anything I couldn't stand by, but perhaps if I'd seen the whole picture (and that you'd offered him help, which appeared nowhere I could see) then I wouldn't have commented. I didn't want to see someone contribute, then get upbraided for it. I think that's fair still. If I put my foot into it from part of a conversation I didn't see, well, for that I could be wrong. > > Frankly Chuck, Sergio & I had sorted this out without you, however > as you have injected yourself into the proceedings, > I now cede to you the honour of testing Sergio's forthcoming port; > let me know when you've finished & it's ready to commit please. Thanks. > > > ============================================================================ > > Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area > > features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour > > of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high > > school photos and much more!: > > <URL:http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/>; > > > Julian > - --- > Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: <URL:http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/>;
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