Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:42:00 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org> To: Daniel Gerzo <danger@rulez.sk> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, trhodes@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) Message-ID: <20120621114200.23ff599b.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20120621171006.Horde.Rzi7VU-oyn9P4zlOtE-CvdA@horde.syscare.sk> References: <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <CAGH67wQdb-c0Kf=60rkaJSH8Hd0OjwCi=rQQMzGq8xfp2q7b=Q@mail.gmail.com> <4FE100F9.2050009@funtoo.org> <20120620073920.GA5300@lonesome.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201618560.75278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CAPDOV49kkOdeV%2B6LVW5j5PO6VYrrNVqWZEksc_GzvWHjbufoAQ@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201722520.1856@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CAPDOV4_ufNGyheDAhPxfndJ7WtH_u=5z7mrLtW-5-a9BMbCswg@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201745040.1949@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CAPDOV4_Fsj_QCLDWSs3o5qiDKS2hTH4qBf8fwJftne8KJNXy1Q@mail.gmail.com> <op.wf7v5el5g7njmm@michael-think> <CAPDOV4_x2T7p_3puD6AKpjoTwFCRPeP6mvvLxRVv_ZrgCTmU3g@mail.gmail.com> <CAPDOV4-2Hz=9fXBJ=oeRFxF7MEeQex946NdpgiPdSJzBwMrcBQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAOjFWZ63C5mBQBYRnG4GKRBR1uPiyG06Svz_x44_=VnfwL=u7w@mail.gmail.com> <op.wf725x1gg7njmm@michael-think> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206210913240.1607@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20120621171006.Horde.Rzi7VU-oyn9P4zlOtE-CvdA@horde.syscare.sk>
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:10:06 +0200 Daniel Gerzo <danger@rulez.sk> wrote: > Hello, >=20 >=20 > Just picking a random message related to this issue. Maybe Tom might =20 > update us a bit with the status of his project ;-) Oh, put me on the spot, thanks Daniel! :) >=20 > Cit=E1t Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>: > >>> - monitor running services and restart them if they crash > > > > should not be done, or at least not default. >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2010-10-2010-12.html#FreeBSD-Se= rvices-Control-(fsc) > http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2012-01-2012-03.html#FreeBSD-Se= rvices-Control >=20 So, I'm not following the -hackers list (too much email, too little personal time); however, I did take a few moments to familarize myself with the conversation. First off, my project was an attempt to pull what I liked from SMF without some of the annoying parts. I hadn't found it overly complicated, but very SYSV like (for very obvious reasons). At point, I wondered how interesting it would be to replace rc or augment it in some way that we could have several of the very interesting ideas that are floating around out there. Like parallel start up, control of base and ports rc, control of inetd and xinet services, and a quick way to get their status. But it was a passing interest that, without some additional hands, will never turn into a real project. Though, my services control stuff is in the ports collection now (see sysutils/fsc) but that is a post-startup mechanism. Sorry I don't really have more to contribute right now, thanks, -- Tom Rhodes
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