From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 12:34:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E213360 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFAAD1839 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E3F13CD30; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:28:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB6CSe6V002478; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:28:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:28:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: CeDeROM Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? Message-Id: <20131206132840.ab266f16.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Luca Ferrari , freebsd-questions , iijima yoshino X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:34:34 -0000 On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:35:00 +0100, CeDeROM wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: > > agree? The users can decide their machines run like desktops or servers. > > By default, most distributions have a default DE after installation or > > on their live images. I think they should be regarded as > > desktop-oriented. On the other hand, it's O.K. to call FreeBSD > > server-oriented, right? > > I use FreeBSD on my desktops and servers with no problem for maaany > years :-) I'm also using FreeBSD exclusively (!) on my desktop since version 4.0 without any problems. I could do what the "cool kids" could do before them, and even after they weren't able to do it anymore. If "FreeBSD is server-oriented", that would not have been possible. :-) I agree that FreeBSD is an _excellent_ operating system for servers, but it's not "for servers only". However, there are desktop environments and applications that can be a trouble to use, which primarily is because they aren't being developed for FreeBSD, and they are not portable enough to allow porting them as a "simple act". Still many software have arrived in FreeBSD from Linux, and even from Solaris, because their design did allow this. If a developer makes a decision of relying on a different design, something that is not available outside of a specific scope (in recent Gnome's case: Linux), and if this is the _intended_ move of the developers - it's _their_ choice. > Get the Xfce4 or KDE and it will be fine :-) PC-BSD is a good illustration for that concept: Preinstalled and preconfigured desktop environment on top, FreeBSD at the heart, still versatile and changeable. There are many ways to create a FreeBSD desktop. Maybe it's valid to say "There is no Gnome 3 desktop on FreeBSD" in the future, but that does not make FreeBSD more "server-oriented" or less "desktop-oriented". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...