From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 13 08:02:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11626 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11567; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:02:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (IDENT:tRLH959Ua38VbbwPnc/gZE4I706KqAhH@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA26508; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:02:20 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (IDENT:2qDvoPKuP43W0TrqvFoFl5hhzuWZhjGN@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA42164; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:02:19 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199812131602.SAA42164@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Kris Kennaway cc: Eivind Eklund , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , John Birrell , jb@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile In-Reply-To: Your message of " Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:08:13 +1030." References: Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:02:17 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Kris Kennaway wrote: > As a counter-suggestion: how about just responding with a suitable > form letter to the people who are obviously out of their depth with > clueless questions (this might already be done now). We shouldn't be > rude to people who upgrade before their time, but they should be made > aware that -current isn't an appropriate target to track if they have > to ask naive questions. This is already in the FAQ; perhaps the FreeBSD home pages need to emphasise this a bit more? Also - lots of folk get stuck into CURRENT or STABLE when they try to upgrade some port, and get told "oooh, no that wont work unless you are running really recent code!" (I am guilty here). They then get stuck in the "How?" loop when all they really wanted to do in the first place was run (say) a secure website with recent Apache. > Alternative suggestion: make the relevant section of the FAQ more > fearsome to discourage people from making the leap unless they're > really confident of their skills (presumably, these people read > some kind of documentation to figure out how to do it). Or turn the > instructions on how to update to -current into a puzzle of some kind > which requires some application of skill to unravel :) More fearsome; YES!! Obfuscate; NO!! That will push up the question level and piss off the WC folk :-). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message