From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 28 05:47:58 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86AA2ACD04 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10003e39c36.3729811c07afbad774e0db09107a5019@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49B9fP5C56z4HVs for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10003e39c36.3729811c07afbad774e0db09107a5019@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1588052878; x=1590644878; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=TkKoU9ZB7yV0z2rXRi2hrYAJHaUhd4mP+wE+JHH5Dus=; b=VU7P439F8sH0L7kiTHuDKjJhejIwZ5ldrCppHaBwcfbvr080UUIJFeYKXWNOyyQd46+hWbro7QLAFBTBZSDGG0pqW2W9XIhDonYLMcAyWE0jGUdizJhAItiDLs13nTnqmEdxAr09OgDhglgkteoLKYD3ma57B/09P+S99LiNVmw= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDNlMzljMzYuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:47:53 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:47:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jTJ5z-000OH5-18; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 06:47:51 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 06:47:50 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: Daniel Feenberg , Arne Steinkamm , Ihor Antonov , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Wayland on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20200428064750.f71f7f9517473623786b267f@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <5058973.kMyvyFPq5o@amos> <20200423085443.18f00e9649e8c71867505550@sohara.org> <20200423113134.GB93186@trajan.stk.cx> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49B9fP5C56z4HVs X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=VU7P439F; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c10003e39c36.3729811c07afbad774e0db09107a5019@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c10003e39c36.3729811c07afbad774e0db09107a5019@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.65 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.985,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; IP_SCORE(0.03)[ip: (-0.22), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.31), asn: 7381(0.11), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10003e39c36.3729811c07afbad774e0db09107a5019@email-od.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10003e39c36.3729811c07afbad774e0db09107a5019@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:47:58 -0000 On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:07:08 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > The jury seems to still out (at best) on the question of block vs. file. > I suspect the main issue are you NAS (file storage) or SAN (block > storage): Both have their uses and both are used heavily in large scale storage (tens of petabytes upwards). As always requirements dictate the best solution. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith