From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 21 17:28:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B8D37B400; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007D143E58; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9447812D8; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:58:23 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:58:23 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Bob Willcox , Paul Richards , Robert Watson , Terry Lambert , Julian Elischer , developers@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: troff vs. DocBook (was: Request for submissions: FreeBSD Bi-Monthly Development Status Report (fwd)) Message-ID: <20020722002823.GB69834@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020721141108.GA30472@luke.immure.com> <82745.1027266137@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82745.1027266137@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 21 July 2002 at 17:42:17 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20020721141108.GA30472@luke.immure.com>, Bob Willcox writes: >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:32:13AM +0100, Paul Richards wrote: >>> >>> I wonder how true that is these days. The last time I used nroff was for my >>> masters thesis which was in 1990! Does anyone except man page maintainers >>> still use it in earnest? >> >> As I understand it, W. Richard Stevens wrote all of his books in troff. >> Of course he died a few years back so is no longer using it. But my >> guess is that were he still alive today, he'd still be using troff. > > And until somebody shows me a way to edit DocBook where 8% of my screen > estate isn't occupied by the XML tags, I'll probably be using [nt]roff > as well. IMO the tags aren't the problem with DocBook. It's just *really* difficult to get good-looking results with. I've actually converted the FreeBSD book into DocBook (anybody want a perl script?), but jade can't format it, and gmat is a real kludge. Theoretically, DocBook is better, but I want something that works. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message