From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 01:00:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50802106566B for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1286B8FC08 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so7306859iyb.13 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:00:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Gc60Q6rO5Stc7fLk3AGJ+yullFiArxnsKBpgoYlMBM=; b=hHxmOhhdDmB29AxfLrHxRJgBuwC7myppqQeqk8Q8YmNa9j6vSiyaQKEy31S0FHZyua mcDSrGD8y92y3FpRCJxWugmHUEou+1hTbhyPLjoXzWHf0bhe9RLuZFsqaIKwT75Jxhdp 6y41XFgxTQoeK3sWR0We2tjA4QBl9ahupsDZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.156.129 with SMTP id z1mr2188255icw.159.1312074025403; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.179.67 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:00:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110730224113.GA43343@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715235610.GA70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110718091913.GA4092@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110730195219.GA15888@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110730224113.GA43343@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:00:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:00:26 -0000 >> Which is this directory? > > I assumed you know. > > If you've got the full teTeX installation, > start with > > % texdoc tds > > tds (TDS) stands for Tex Directory Structure. > This is a sort of a standard on how tex > tree should be organised. teTeX tree > adheres to TDS convention. > > texdoc(1) is incredibly useful, give it a go. > > The TDS convention allow for several complementary > trees. So teTeX tree, by default, is installed > under /usr/local/share, see e.g. > /usr/ports/print/teTeX-base/Makefile: > > TEXMFDIR=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 share/texmf > TEXMFDISTDIR=3D =A0 share/texmf-dist > TEXMFCONFIGDIR=3D share/texmf-config > TEXMFLOCALDIR=3D =A0share/texmf-local > > Basically, the TDS tree is where latex > will look for packages, fonts, etc. > > In addition, by default, latex (or whatever > your invocation is) will look in user's > local TDS tree, which is under $HOME/texmf. > > Here's a small example: > > BUZI> ls -alR $HOME/texmf > total 12 > drwx------ =A0 3 mexas =A0wheel =A0 512 Mar 23 =A02006 . > drwx------ =A028 mexas =A0wheel =A02048 Jul 30 23:15 .. > drwx------ =A0 3 mexas =A0wheel =A0 512 Mar 23 =A02006 bibtex > > /home/mexas/texmf/bibtex: > total 12 > drwx------ =A03 mexas =A0wheel =A0512 Mar 23 =A02006 . > drwx------ =A03 mexas =A0wheel =A0512 Mar 23 =A02006 .. > drwx------ =A02 mexas =A0wheel =A0512 Mar 23 =A02006 bst > > /home/mexas/texmf/bibtex/bst: > total 60 > drwx------ =A02 mexas =A0wheel =A0 =A0512 Mar 23 =A02006 . > drwx------ =A03 mexas =A0wheel =A0 =A0512 Mar 23 =A02006 .. > -rw------- =A01 mexas =A0wheel =A025593 Mar 23 =A02006 jmr.bst > BUZI> > > For this book I ended up with something like this: > > /home/mexas/texmf > =A0 |-doc > =A0 |---fonts > =A0 |-----bera > =A0 |---generic > =A0 |-----pgf > =A0 |-------images > =A0 |-------licenses > =A0 |-------macros > =A0 |-------text-en > =A0 |---------plots > =A0 |-------version-for-dvipdfm > =A0 |---------en > =A0 |-------version-for-dvipdfmx > =A0 |---------en > =A0 |-------version-for-dvips > =A0 |---------en > =A0 |-------version-for-pdftex > =A0 |---------en > =A0 |-------version-for-tex4ht > =A0 |---------en > =A0 |-------version-for-vtex > =A0 |---------en > =A0 |-----------plots > =A0 |-------version-for-xetex > =A0 |---------en > =A0 |---latex > =A0 |-----fourier > =A0 |-dvips > =A0 |---config > =A0 |-fonts > =A0 |---afm > =A0 |-----public > =A0 |-------fourier > =A0 |---map > =A0 |-----dvips > =A0 |-------fourier > =A0 |-----vtex > =A0 |---tfm > =A0 |-----dingbat > =A0 |-----public > =A0 |-------bbding > =A0 |-------bera > =A0 |-------fourier > =A0 |-------fouriernc > =A0 |---type1 > =A0 |-----public > =A0 |-------fourier > =A0 |---vf > =A0 |-----public > =A0 |-------bera > =A0 |-------fourier > =A0 |-------fouriernc > =A0 |-fouriernc > =A0 |---source > =A0 |-nomencl > =A0 |-phaistos > =A0 |---OpenType > =A0 |---afm > =A0 |---dvips > =A0 |---tfm > =A0 |---type1 > =A0 |---var > =A0 |-tex > =A0 |---context > =A0 |-----pgf > =A0 |-------basiclayer > =A0 |-------frontendlayer > =A0 |-------math > =A0 |-------systemlayer > =A0 |-------utilities > =A0 |---generic > =A0 |-----pgf > =A0 |-------basiclayer > =A0 |-------frontendlayer > =A0 |---------svg > =A0 |---------tikz > =A0 |-----------libraries > =A0 |-------------circuits > =A0 |-------------datavisualization > =A0 |-------libraries > =A0 |---------datavisualization > =A0 |---------decorations > =A0 |---------shapes > =A0 |-----------circuits > =A0 |-------math > =A0 |-------modules > =A0 |-------rendering > =A0 |-------systemlayer > =A0 |-------testsuite > =A0 |---------external > =A0 |---------mathtest > =A0 |-------utilities > =A0 |---latex > =A0 |-----bbding > =A0 |-----bera > =A0 |-----dingbat > =A0 |-----fourier > =A0 |-----fouriernc > =A0 |-----pgf > =A0 |-------basiclayer > =A0 |-------compatibility > =A0 |-------doc > =A0 |-------frontendlayer > =A0 |---------libraries > =A0 |-------math > =A0 |-------systemlayer > =A0 |-------utilities > =A0 |-----phaistos > =A0 |-----shadethm > =A0 |---plain > =A0 |-----pgf > =A0 |-------basiclayer > =A0 |-------frontendlayer > =A0 |-------math > =A0 |-------systemlayer > =A0 |-------utilities > >> >> I don't have it :( >> >> [olivares@quadcore ~]$ pwd >> /home/olivares >> [olivares@quadcore ~]$ cd texmf >> bash: cd: texmf: No such file or directory >> >> I know that under texlive there is a ~/.texlive/ folder, but there is >> no ~/.teTeX/texmf in the home folder. > > no, this is unrelated, see above. > >> >> > (I used the latest distro: >> > =A0http://media.texample.net/pgf/builds/pgfCVS2010-09-28_TDS.zip ) >> >> How and where do I install this one? > > different parts in different parts of your local tree. > In fact all you have to do is to copy this zip > under your $HOME/texmf and unzip it there, it will > place all its file where they belong. If you start from > this package, you will have your local TDS in place > straight away. > >> For the other book, I installed print/latex-pgf/ port and I got it to >> work, the one diffyqs.tex previously mentioned. > > ok, I'll look at this later. > > Anyway, what I did to get this book built > is not what I'd like to do all the time. > I want to have everything I need in ports, > so I'll work towards having all the above > packages in ports, eventually. > > -- I have been using TeX for a while and I have never had to set up anthing like this :( I had used MikTeX in winblow$ and TeTeX in linux distros and FreeBSD 5.3/FreeBSD6.2, and I had never had to mess with TDS. This is what I always did, I tried to compile a tex project and it failed, I looked at which *.sty file was needed and I downloaded it from CTTAN or off another computer that had it and put it directly on the folder that I was working on. This had always worked for me. On TeXlive installations(with full TeXLive 20XY installations), I have not had to hunt down *.sty files, except of course that big tikz hungry trigbook package: http://media.texample.net/pgf/builds/pgfCVS2010-09-28_TDS.zip I downloaded it, and did not know what to do with it :( Not even with the full TeXLive 2010 package installed I could get that trigbook going :( [compiled except the tikz stuff ] Am taking a look at TDS, but still confused :( Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 05:36:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7953106566C for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 05:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687478FC12 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 05:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6V5ZZL9007662; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 07:35:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0227CBAA0; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 07:35:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 07:35:34 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110731053534.GA35731@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715235610.GA70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110718091913.GA4092@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110730195219.GA15888@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110730224113.GA43343@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 05:36:23 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 08:00:25PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I have been using TeX for a while and I have never had to set up > anthing like this :( I had used MikTeX in winblow$ and TeTeX in linux > distros and FreeBSD 5.3/FreeBSD6.2, and I had never had to mess with > TDS. >=20 > This is what I always did, I tried to compile a tex project and it > failed, I looked at which *.sty file was needed and I downloaded it > from CTTAN or off another computer that had it and put it directly on > the folder that I was working on. This had always worked for me. It works. But if you want to use that style file in more than one directory, it gets tedious. =20 > On TeXlive installations(with full TeXLive 20XY installations), I have > not had to hunt down *.sty files, except of course that big tikz > hungry trigbook package: >=20 > http://media.texample.net/pgf/builds/pgfCVS2010-09-28_TDS.zip >=20 > I downloaded it, and did not know what to do with it :( Not even with > the full TeXLive 2010 package installed I could get that trigbook > going :( [compiled except the tikz stuff ] If you are using TeXLive, first check if a TeXLive package for what you want exists. First tell tlmgr(1) to use a CTAN mirror: tlmgr option repository http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet Then list all packages available: tlmgr list|less The packages you have installed are prefixed with an 'i'. > Am taking a look at TDS, but still confused :( Make a texmf directory in your $HOME. This is searched by default in TeXLiv= e. See /usr/local/texlive//texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf Just unzip pgfCVS2010-09-28_TDS.zip in ~/texmf, and run mktexlsr afterwards. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk406aYACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVOrwCfT2XGNhHDSeJTbN5Q2TR3w/jb cAUAn1qNgfILjMQrgY+7888RlQm+xSvo =IEWR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 06:58:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3AE106566C for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085738FC0A for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:58:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAKP4NE6WZWdv/2dsb2JhbABAqFuBQAEBBAF5BQsLGC5XBi2HUr5nhkIEh1iQKott Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2011 16:13:22 +0930 X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [192.168.1.144] (ws@[192.168.1.144]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6V6hF20087472; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:13:15 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) From: Wayne Sierke To: Michael In-Reply-To: <4E3491BC.5050006@gmail.com> References: <4E333BDE.4010705@gmail.com> <1312008961.69299.18.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> <4E3491BC.5050006@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:13:14 +0930 Message-ID: <1312094594.69299.28.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 192.168.1.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.002005(2008-06-10) X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -4.399 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Arduino UNO - upload not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ws@au.dyndns.ws List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:58:42 -0000 On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 00:20 +0100, Michael wrote: > On 30/07/2011 07:56, Wayne Sierke wrote: > > > > 0) The automatic reset for programming generally didn't work for me. > > However after judicious experimentation I was able to time a manual > > reset of the board being programmed by waiting for the "Binary sketch > > size:" message to appear in the Arduino IDE and timing a reset from that > > (about 2-3 seconds in my case). > > > > It works, I mean the workaround, it works! Thank you so much. In my case > it's a bit less than one second. I still need to test it with more > sketches but for now it looks good and gives me hope :) That's good news. :) > Could you also tell me what versions of arduino (IDE), uarduno and > avrdude you are using? Is it vanilla ports or did you have to apply any > extra patches? All vanilla. arduino-0022_1 uarduno-1.0 avrdude-5.10 openjdk6-b22_6 rxtx-openjdk6-2.1.7r2_7 Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 09:16:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4E41065672 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AF28FC13 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QnS7k-0000NU-Cx; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:15:58 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QnS7C-0002G9-AN; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:15:18 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6V9F7Nt050778; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:15:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p6V9F7j5050777; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:15:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:15:07 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110731091507.GA50752@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Antonio Olivares , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht References: <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715235610.GA70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110718091913.GA4092@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110730195219.GA15888@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110730224113.GA43343@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:16:09 -0000 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 08:00:25PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I have been using TeX for a while and I have never had to set up > anthing like this :( I had used MikTeX in winblow$ and TeTeX in linux > distros and FreeBSD 5.3/FreeBSD6.2, and I had never had to mess with > TDS. I know, this is just a fix. We are fortunate enough to have the ports tree. That is the way forward. But some work is required for this to happen. > > This is what I always did, I tried to compile a tex project and it > failed, I looked at which *.sty file was needed and I downloaded it > from CTTAN or off another computer that had it and put it directly on > the folder that I was working on. This had always worked for me. Apart from *sty files, there are also fonts, and those should live in correct directories to be found. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 10:07:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF85106566B for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [78.47.239.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B9E8FC12 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by kukulies.org (Postfix, from userid 5001) id A41B21AC003; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:50:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (pC19EB8FB.dip.t-dialin.net [193.158.184.251]) by kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B58791AC002 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:50:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E352563.2070808@kukulies.org> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:50:27 +0200 From: "Christoph P.U. Kukulies" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: invalid argument in select() when peer socket is in FD_SET X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:07:37 -0000 I have written a small to test TCP/IP roundtrip times of the packets in a proprietary protocol and while compiling and running this server on different platforms (Windows 7/cygwin, UbuntuLinux, FreeBSD 8.0 Release), I found that the server produces an error when the listening socket (on which the accpet() is performed) is member of the select() fd_set. On the other platforms the program works without error, just under FreeBSD I'm getting this "invalid argument" error. Comments appreciated (despite comments about the error checking logic :) Here is the code: // testsrv.c // gcc -o testsrv testsrv.c // #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define USEDBUFSIZ 60 #define MAX_HOSTNAME 256 #define MAXFDS 256 #define CLRBUF memset(buf,0,sizeof(buf)) #define max(a,b) (((a) > (b)) ? (a) : (b)) static unsigned char buf[256]; int array_of_fds[MAXFDS]; static fd_set clientfds; #define SOCKET int void *memset(void *, int, size_t); int enter (int); int remov (int); int invalidip (char *); void exit (int); int getv (int, unsigned char *, int); int getfds (); int main(int argc, char **argv) { int nfds; static fd_set readfds; SOCKET ListenSocket, newsockfd; struct sockaddr_in cli_addr; struct sockaddr_in service; struct hostent *thisHost; int bOptVal = 0; int bOptLen = sizeof(int); char hostname[256]; char *host_addr; struct in_addr addr = {0}; char *ip; u_short port; int iResult = 0; int i , n, m, clilen, dummy, connect = 0; struct timeval tv; //--------------------------------------- //Create a listening socket ListenSocket = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_TCP); if (ListenSocket == -1) { perror("socket creation"); return 1; } else printf("ListenSocket=%d\n", ListenSocket); //--------------------------------------- //Bind the socket to the local IP address // and port 3210 port = 3210; if (gethostname(hostname, 256)) perror("gethostname failed\n"), exit(3); printf("%s\n", hostname), fflush(stdout); thisHost = gethostbyname(hostname); ip = inet_ntoa(*(struct in_addr *)(*thisHost->h_addr_list)); if (argc == 2) { host_addr = argv[1]; service.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(host_addr); thisHost = gethostbyaddr((const char *)&service.sin_addr.s_addr, sizeof(service.sin_addr.s_addr), AF_INET); if (thisHost == 0) printf("host unknown\n"), exit(3); if (invalidip(host_addr)) printf("invalid IP\n"), exit(4); } else { service.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(ip); } service.sin_port = htons(port); service.sin_family = AF_INET; iResult = bind(ListenSocket, (struct sockaddr *)&service, sizeof(service)); if (iResult == -1) { perror("bind"); shutdown(ListenSocket, SHUT_RDWR); return 1; } listen(ListenSocket, SOMAXCONN); printf("SOMAXCONN=%d %d\n", SOMAXCONN, FD_SETSIZE); /* all sockets are put into an own array_of_fs */ /* in the while() loop below the FD_SET id used by looping through the */ /* array_of_fds to fill the readfds array in the select() */ enter(ListenSocket); /* * Wait for connect */ tv.tv_sec = 0; tv.tv_usec = 5000000; /* 5 seconds */ printf("Server %s listening on port %d\n", thisHost->h_name, port); memset((void *)array_of_fds, 0, (size_t) MAXFDS * sizeof(*array_of_fds)); nfds = ListenSocket + 1; while (1) { FD_ZERO(&readfds); FD_SET(ListenSocket, &readfds); for (i = 0; i < MAXFDS; i++) { if (array_of_fds[i]) { nfds = max(nfds, array_of_fds[i]) + 1; FD_SET(array_of_fds[i], &readfds); } } n = select(nfds, &readfds, (fd_set *) NULL, /* not interested in write */ (fd_set *) NULL, /* ...or exceptions */ &tv); /* timeout */ switch (n) { case 1: clilen = sizeof(cli_addr); /* first test if a new client has connected */ if (FD_ISSET(ListenSocket, &readfds)) { newsockfd = accept(ListenSocket, (struct sockaddr *)&cli_addr, &clilen); if (enter(newsockfd)) /* socket of new connection is entered*/ printf("\n%d.connect! ", ++connect), fflush(stdout); else printf("too many connections"), exit(1); sprintf(buf, "ENTERED %d of %d", 1, 10); send(newsockfd, buf, USEDBUFSIZ, 0); /* send to the client*/ } else { for (i = 0; i < MAXFDS; i++) { int s; if (FD_ISSET((s = array_of_fds[i]), &readfds)) { m = getv(s, buf, USEDBUFSIZ); if (m <= 0) { shutdown(s, SHUT_RDWR); if (remov(s) == -1) printf("error on remove(s)\n", s), fflush(stdout ); goto done; } else { printf("*"); fflush(stdout); CLRBUF; /* now send some data to the client */ sprintf(buf, "XX-123456789-XX-xx : 0x0600, 0x9 9999999, \"NNNNN\""); m = send(s, buf, USEDBUFSIZ, 0); if (m < 0 || m != USEDBUFSIZ) { perror("cannot send\n"); } CLRBUF; sprintf(buf, "END"); m = send(s, buf, USEDBUFSIZ, 0); if (m < 0 || m != USEDBUFSIZ) { perror("cannot send\n"); } } /* else */ } /* if FD_ISSET */ } /* for */ break; case 0: break; case -1: perror("select"); exit(2); default: printf("more than one descriptor ready!\n"); fflush(stdout); exit(4); break; } /* switch */ } /* while */ } done: shutdown(ListenSocket, SHUT_RDWR); return 0; } /* main */ int getv(int fd, unsigned char *buf, int count) { int m , got = 0; int i = 0; while (got < count) { m = recv(fd, buf + got, count - got, 0); if (m == count) return m; if (m > 0) got = got + m; if (m == 0) return (0); if (m < 0) { return -1; } } return -1; } int enter(int i) { int k = 0; while (array_of_fds[k++]); if (k > MAXFDS - 1) return -1; k--; array_of_fds[k] = i; return i; } int remov(s) { int k; for (k = 0; k < MAXFDS; k++) if (array_of_fds[k] == s) { array_of_fds[k] = 0; return k; } return -1; } /* * this code taken from code for validating IPv4 address taken from article * in http://bytes.com/topic/c/answers/212174-code-validating-ipv4-address */ #define INVALID -1 #define VALID 0 int invalidip(char *ipadd) { unsigned b1, b2, b3, b4; unsigned char c; if (sscanf(ipadd, "%3u.%3u.%3u.%3u%c", &b1, &b2, &b3, &b4, &c) != 4) return INVALID; if ((b1 | b2 | b3 | b4) > 255) return INVALID; if (strspn(ipadd, "0123456789.") < strlen(ipadd)) return INVALID; return VALID; } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 16:15:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C981065673 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055B98FC12 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so7872082iyb.13 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:15:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CFOpPuE+bvj8NBjm5Zop5uGbMcHArh7PlLFpBlNyT7g=; b=w8uhEdEUQMbzfCDy40ofI7mmLst1av2TN0nwnBbI03B/aHz8thptmxQd7ohFwSeZG2 P8HUhNF4BA5bP5RPGb1krcpND29ghfilRyvpQPbyWruXlhZFSuRiz6hCIaWS1ouC771Z yp9G3jpTLpNbLNSUoOnjJoBtEI1t7SX40gcxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.29.129 with SMTP id r1mr2286377icc.360.1312128930223; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.179.67 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:15:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110426184836.3C611B7EE@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> References: <20110426184836.3C611B7EE@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: easy Firewall setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:15:31 -0000 > A> Is there an easy firewall setup available somewhere (like the one > A> referenced below but for FreeBSD)? > > =A0 Here's a script you can use to generate a rules file for IPF. > > -- Karl, I have used your script and it generated me a nice ipf.rules file /************* ipf.rules ********************/ quadcore# cat /etc/ipf.rules # Generated by make-ipf-rules v1.10 at Sun Jul 31 10:42:21 CDT 2011 # # NAME: # /etc/ipf.rules # # DESCRIPTION: # Ruleset for IPF packet filter. # # AUTHOR: # Antonio Olivares # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # We don't care about NETBIOS broadcast crap, bootpc requests, or IGMP. block in quick on msk0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 68 block in quick on msk0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 137 block in quick on msk0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 138 block in quick on msk0 proto igmp from any to any # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Now block everything coming down the network. block in log on msk0 all block out log on msk0 all # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Get rid of anything with options, as these can be used to hack. block in log quick from any to any with ipopts # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Get rid of short TCP/IP fragments (too small for valid comparison) # as these can be used to hack. block in log quick proto tcp from any to any with short # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Allow all traffic on loopback. pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Block all the private routable addresses, as these should never # come down the network, nor should we be talking to them. block out quick on msk0 from any to 192.168.0.0/16 block out quick on msk0 from any to 172.16.0.0/12 block out quick on msk0 from any to 127.0.0.0/8 block out quick on msk0 from any to 10.0.0.0/8 block out quick on msk0 from any to 0.0.0.0/8 block out quick on msk0 from any to 169.254.0.0/16 block out quick on msk0 from any to 192.0.2.0/24 block out quick on msk0 from any to 204.152.64.0/23 block out quick on msk0 from any to 224.0.0.0/3 block in quick on msk0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any block in quick on msk0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any block in quick on msk0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on msk0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on msk0 from 0.0.0.0/8 to any block in quick on msk0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any block in quick on msk0 from 192.0.2.0/24 to any block in quick on msk0 from 204.152.64.0/23 to any block in quick on msk0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Block and log portmapper attempts. block in log quick on msk0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port =3D 111 keep = state # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Allow outbound state related packets. pass out quick on msk0 proto tcp from any to any flags S keep state pass out quick on msk0 proto udp from any to any keep state # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Allow ping and traceroute. Since we're doing everything quick, # we must have passes before blocks. pass in quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 0 keep state pass in quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 8 keep state pass in quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 11 keep state pass out quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 0 keep state pass out quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 8 keep state pass out quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 11 keep state block in log quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Allow DNS; should this be just from nameservers? pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 53 flags S keep st= ate pass in quick on msk0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 53 keep state # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Allow ssh and mail from anywhere: tcpserver filters addresses pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 22 flags S keep st= ate pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 25 flags S keep st= ate # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Allow http from selected addresses. pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from 1.2.3.4 to any port =3D 80 flags S kee= p state pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from 1.2.3.5 to any port =3D 80 flags S kee= p state # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Allow secure http from selected addresses. pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from 1.2.3.4 to any port =3D 443 flags S keep state pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from 1.2.3.5 to any port =3D 443 flags S keep state # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Copyright (C) 2011 # EOF /************************************************************/ I add /*******************/ lpd_enable=3D"YES" ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" ipfileter_rules=3D"/etc/ipf.rules" ipmon_enable=3D"YES" ipmon_flags=3D"-Ds" /******************/ to /etc/rc.conf, I load the kernel module: quadcore# kldload /boot/kernel/ipl.ko I verify it is working: with # ipf -V quadcore# ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules Then I cannot browse :( quadcore# ipfstat bad packets: in 0 out 0 IPv6 packets: in 0 out 0 input packets: blocked 17 passed 14 nomatch 14 counted 0 short 0 output packets: blocked 68 passed 22 nomatch 22 counted 0 short 0 input packets logged: blocked 0 passed 0 output packets logged: blocked 0 passed 0 packets logged: input 0 output 0 log failures: input 0 output 0 fragment state(in): kept 0 lost 0 not fragmented 0 fragment state(out): kept 0 lost 0 not fragmented 0 packet state(in): kept 0 lost 0 packet state(out): kept 0 lost 0 ICMP replies: 0 TCP RSTs sent: 0 Invalid source(in): 0 Result cache hits(in): 10 (out): 0 IN Pullups succeeded: 0 failed: 0 OUT Pullups succeeded: 0 failed: 0 Fastroute successes: 0 failures: 0 TCP cksum fails(in): 0 (out): 0 IPF Ticks: 574 Packet log flags set: (0) none But I have to stop the firewall ipf -D and run # ifconfig msk0 up and I can browse. My best guess is that there is a problem with ipv6 and ipv4, but I don't know how to troubleshoot this. I had generated the script a while ago but I got errors, I did not know that the kernel module had to be loaded: # kldload /boot/kernel/ipl.ko verify that it is working with # ipf -V I read this over at these pages: http://manuuus.co.in/configure-ipf-firewall-in-freebsd/ http://www.pc-freak.net/handbook/firewalls-ipf.html I know about ipfw too[Thanks Polytropon, I have simple setup you suggested but at school machine], and this time I tried the script which also is very good, but I have little problem. Is there anything I have to do, like turn on ipv6 to be able to browse? how do I check which version I have? Thanks for advice given. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 19:26:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12EE106564A for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7288FC08 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38so3486505qyk.13 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:26:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yOwWZri00NeWKHxOcL4kmgno38WXh2lKZK5vdgodxIQ=; b=Y2eOt2J4t9196UPJ8PLybdxSSzDcQbWzQ+mR1FtJi2iHSmLJBtB+2rHwwxU03GVzuy kK7UX3EhNSfEfk8vnHakhEf5cW40JhZ1p1VfcnpjSrPGL+FZnZs+0bJvA7PTZamRqE7m 3q4aG28sfhgKsRCXZ1lv7Im4tA7n+caFgfJWA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.197.71 with SMTP id ej7mr2529357qab.279.1312140385453; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.67.209 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:26:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110426184836.3C611B7EE@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:26:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: easy Firewall setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:26:26 -0000 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> A> Is there an easy firewall setup available somewhere (like the one >> A> referenced below but for FreeBSD)? >> >> =A0 Here's a script you can use to generate a rules file for IPF. >> >> -- > > Karl, > > I have used your script and it generated me a nice ipf.rules file > > /************* ipf.rules ********************/ > quadcore# cat /etc/ipf.rules > # Generated by make-ipf-rules v1.10 at Sun Jul 31 10:42:21 CDT 2011 > # > # NAME: > # =A0 =A0/etc/ipf.rules > # > # DESCRIPTION: > # =A0 =A0Ruleset for IPF packet filter. > # > # AUTHOR: > # =A0 =A0Antonio Olivares > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # We don't care about NETBIOS broadcast crap, bootpc requests, or IGMP. > block in quick on msk0 proto udp =A0from any to any port =3D 68 > block in quick on msk0 proto udp =A0from any to any port =3D 137 > block in quick on msk0 proto udp =A0from any to any port =3D 138 > block in quick on msk0 proto igmp from any to any > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Now block everything coming down the network. > block in =A0log =A0on msk0 all > block out log =A0on msk0 all > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Get rid of anything with options, as these can be used to hack. > block in =A0log quick =A0 =A0 from any to any with ipopts > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Get rid of short TCP/IP fragments (too small for valid comparison) > # as these can be used to hack. > block in =A0log quick proto tcp from any to any with short > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Allow all traffic on loopback. > pass =A0in =A0quick on lo0 all > pass =A0out quick on lo0 all > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Block all the private routable addresses, as these should never > # come down the network, nor should we be talking to them. > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 192.168.0= .0/16 > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 172.16.0.= 0/12 > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 127.0.0.0= /8 > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 10.0.0.0/= 8 > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 0.0.0.0/8 > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 169.254.0= .0/16 > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 192.0.2.0= /24 > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 204.152.6= 4.0/23 > block out quick on msk0 from any =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to 224.0.0.0= /3 > > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 192.168.0.0/16 =A0 =A0to any > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 172.16.0.0/12 =A0 =A0 to any > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 10.0.0.0/8 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0to any > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 127.0.0.0/8 =A0 =A0 =A0 to any > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 0.0.0.0/8 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to any > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 169.254.0.0/16 =A0 =A0to any > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 192.0.2.0/24 =A0 =A0 =A0to any > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 204.152.64.0/23 =A0 to any > block in =A0quick on msk0 from 224.0.0.0/3 =A0 =A0 =A0 to any > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Block and log portmapper attempts. > block in log quick on msk0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port =3D 111 kee= p state > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Allow outbound state related packets. > pass =A0out quick on msk0 proto tcp from any to any flags S keep state > pass =A0out quick on msk0 proto udp from any to any keep state > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Allow ping and traceroute. =A0Since we're doing everything quick, > # we must have passes before blocks. > pass =A0in quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type =A00 keep s= tate > pass =A0in quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type =A08 keep s= tate > pass =A0in quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 11 keep sta= te > pass out quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type =A00 keep sta= te > pass out quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type =A08 keep sta= te > pass out quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 11 keep state > block in log quick on msk0 proto icmp from any to any > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Allow DNS; should this be just from nameservers? > pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 53 flags S keep = state > pass in quick on msk0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 53 keep state > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Allow ssh and mail from anywhere: tcpserver filters addresses > pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 22 flags S keep = state > pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 25 flags S keep = state > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Allow http from selected addresses. > pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from 1.2.3.4 to any port =3D 80 flags S k= eep state > pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from 1.2.3.5 to any port =3D 80 flags S k= eep state > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Allow secure http from selected addresses. > pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from 1.2.3.4 to any port =3D 443 flags S > keep state > pass in quick on msk0 proto tcp from 1.2.3.5 to any port =3D 443 flags S > keep state > > # -------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Copyright (C) 2011 > # EOF > /************************************************************/ > > I add > /*******************/ > lpd_enable=3D"YES" > ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" > ipfileter_rules=3D"/etc/ipf.rules" > ipmon_enable=3D"YES" > ipmon_flags=3D"-Ds" > /******************/ > to /etc/rc.conf, I load the kernel module: > > quadcore# kldload /boot/kernel/ipl.ko > > I verify it is working: > > with # ipf -V > > > quadcore# ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules > > Then I cannot browse :( > > > quadcore# ipfstat > bad packets: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0in 0 =A0 =A0out 0 > =A0IPv6 packets: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0in 0 out 0 > =A0input packets: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 blocked 17 passed 14 nomatch 14 counted= 0 short 0 > output packets: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 blocked 68 passed 22 nomatch 22 counted 0= short 0 > =A0input packets logged: =A0blocked 0 passed 0 > output packets logged: =A0blocked 0 passed 0 > =A0packets logged: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0input 0 output 0 > =A0log failures: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0input 0 output 0 > fragment state(in): =A0 =A0 kept 0 =A0lost 0 =A0not fragmented 0 > fragment state(out): =A0 =A0kept 0 =A0lost 0 =A0not fragmented 0 > packet state(in): =A0 =A0 =A0 kept 0 =A0lost 0 > packet state(out): =A0 =A0 =A0kept 0 =A0lost 0 > ICMP replies: =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 TCP RSTs sent: =A00 > Invalid source(in): =A0 =A0 0 > Result cache hits(in): =A010 =A0 =A0 =A0(out): =A00 > IN Pullups succeeded: =A0 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 failed: 0 > OUT Pullups succeeded: =A00 =A0 =A0 =A0 failed: 0 > Fastroute successes: =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 =A0 failures: =A0 =A0 =A0 0 > TCP cksum fails(in): =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 =A0 (out): =A00 > IPF Ticks: =A0 =A0 =A0574 > Packet log flags set: (0) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0none > > > But I have to stop the firewall > > ipf -D > > and run > # ifconfig msk0 up > > and I can browse. =A0My best guess is that there is a problem with ipv6 > and ipv4, but I don't know how to troubleshoot this. =A0I had generated > the script a while ago but I got errors, I did not know that the > kernel module had to be loaded: > > # kldload /boot/kernel/ipl.ko > verify that it is working with > # ipf -V > > I read this over at these pages: > > http://manuuus.co.in/configure-ipf-firewall-in-freebsd/ > > http://www.pc-freak.net/handbook/firewalls-ipf.html > > I know about ipfw too[Thanks Polytropon, I have simple setup you > suggested but at school machine], and this time I tried the script > which also is very good, but I have little problem. > > Is there anything I have to do, like turn on ipv6 to be able to > browse? =A0how do I check which version I have? > > Thanks for advice given. > > Regards, > > Antonio > Karl & et all, I could not get the ipfw easy firewall solution to work either. However after trial and error I commented out the 192.0.X settings, #block in quick on msk0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any #block out quick on msk0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any since I get ip quadcore# ifconfig -a msk0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 150= 0 options=3Dc011a ether 00:1d:60:33:ca:b0 inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active I thought to myself the above script will block it. After I commented these out, restarted the firewall # ipf -E # ipf -V # ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules quadcore# ipfstat bad packets: in 0 out 0 IPv6 packets: in 0 out 0 input packets: blocked 44 passed 6605 nomatch 0 counted 0 short 0 output packets: blocked 26 passed 5278 nomatch 0 counted 0 short 0 input packets logged: blocked 9 passed 0 output packets logged: blocked 26 passed 0 packets logged: input 0 output 0 log failures: input 0 output 0 fragment state(in): kept 0 lost 0 not fragmented 0 fragment state(out): kept 0 lost 0 not fragmented 0 packet state(in): kept 0 lost 0 packet state(out): kept 490 lost 0 ICMP replies: 0 TCP RSTs sent: 0 Invalid source(in): 0 Result cache hits(in): 24 (out): 16 IN Pullups succeeded: 0 failed: 0 OUT Pullups succeeded: 0 failed: 0 Fastroute successes: 0 failures: 0 TCP cksum fails(in): 0 (out): 0 IPF Ticks: 4258 Packet log flags set: (0) none quadcore# ipf -V ipf: IP Filter: v4.1.28 (496) Kernel: IP Filter: v4.1.28 Running: yes Log Flags: 0 =3D none set Default: pass all, Logging: available Active list: 0 Feature mask: 0x10f It is working :) ; I hope it works after a reboot as well, if it does not it will be back to the drawing board :( Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 00:28:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DEB106566B for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F8E8FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so3705253yxl.13 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.213.18 with SMTP id p18mr2735009anq.98.1312158518671; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.17.4.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g8sm2746955and.0.2011.07.31.17.28.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:28:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:28:29 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Phenom II 975 BE shows 0 celsius X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 00:28:39 -0000 Hi to all In my desktop machine, I had an AM2+ ASROCK mobo with Phenom II 955 BE that= =20 showed each core temperature perfectly under FBSD 8-STABLE, via=20 dev.cpu.x.temp. amdtemp.ko loaded. Unfortunately this Mobo died and only found AM3 boards for which my phenom = 955=20 doesn't fit. So I got an ASUS M4A88T-V EVO with a Phenom II 975 BE.=20 =46unny thing. An AM3 phenom II fits on an AM2 board but an AM3 board doesn= 't=20 accept an AM2/AM2+ phenom II :(. Anyway, now, under the very same system, it shows 0 degrees on dev.cpu.x.te= mp=20 for all cores. I've been looking through k8temp and amdtemp src code. I am definitely not= =20 sure of this but I believe something might have happened to those: =46rom k8temp.h K10_THERM_REG 0xa4=20 K10_THERMTRIP_REG 0xe4 K10_CURTMP(val) (((val) >> 21) & 0xfff) K10_THERMTRIP(val) ((val >> 1) & 1) =46rom amdtemp.c /* * Register control (K8 family) */ #define AMDTEMP_REG0F 0xe4 #define AMDTEMP_REG_SELSENSOR 0x40 #define AMDTEMP_REG_SELCORE 0x04 /* * Register control (K10 & K11) family */ #define AMDTEMP_REG 0xa4 Output of k8temp -dn: CPUID: Vendor: AuthenticAMD, 0x100f43: Model=3D04 Family=3Df+1 Stepping=3D3 Advanced Power Management=3D0x1f9 Temperature sensor: Yes Frequency ID control: No Voltage ID control: No THERMTRIP support: Yes HW Thermal control: Yes SW Thermal control: Yes 100MHz multipliers: Yes HW P-State control: Yes TSC Invariant: Yes Temp=3Dc0fef ThermTrip=3D1fc00c30 0 I keep a small win7 partition to test little things like this and see if th= e=20 same thing happens there, and it doesn't, so I concluded that the sensors a= re=20 there and are working. One thing is worth noting though. I have used a free gadget that shows=20 activity/temp for each core. It worked fine with the previous MB/CPU.That A= LSO=20 stopped working with this new MB. Like FBSD, it shows 0 degrees for any cor= e=20 too, although it correctly displays each core load. The only windows tool that correctly shows the temperature are the ASUS too= ls=20 that came with the mobo. Other than that, everything is working fine! The only thing I had to fix wa= s=20 the fstab ada location. I know this is not a big thing but I got accustomed to keeping an eye on th= ose=20 temperatures. I have googled for a few days now searching for Thermal register address or= =20 offsets for the Phenom II 975 BE, or anything related to this problem and=20 found nothing. Every search on AMD site was fruitless. I could not find a=20 single bit of tech info on this processor there, or any other tech info for= =20 that matter. Would any one have any pointers/clues/suggestions on this? Thanks, =2D-=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br =46reeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 00:32:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A241065670 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5988FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so8307067iyb.13 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:32:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RNSbDDnWahYuuaKkiHs9Z4TzooGbdACKvnJkpZYRKG8=; b=Jzz+SYxsJcPyqYsLOgjpygxxs2z0SoUaQ1k6KSlH+lNC29MBFK0Q05XGJRfyEZ2PyK K2iUaTtkyQJZxq50lA7nVHYmjwSlr/Tu35n3tFPR+mz/HFtQ5WgqwS2x4ErDj2SW5EDo PdOTNczd2ViOZLfB0YF9+9mkgYhMUAB+h0Nv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.61.138 with SMTP id t10mr933299ibh.86.1312158721855; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.179.67 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110731053534.GA35731@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715235610.GA70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110718091913.GA4092@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110730195219.GA15888@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110730224113.GA43343@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110731053534.GA35731@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:32:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Roland Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 00:32:04 -0000 > If you are using TeXLive, first check if a TeXLive package for what you w= ant > exists. First tell tlmgr(1) to use a CTAN mirror: > > =A0 =A0tlmgr option repository http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tln= et > > Then list all packages available: > > =A0 =A0tlmgr list|less > > The packages you have installed are prefixed with an 'i'. > >> Am taking a look at TDS, but still confused :( > > Make a texmf directory in your $HOME. This is searched by default in TeXL= ive. > See /usr/local/texlive//texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf > > Just unzip pgfCVS2010-09-28_TDS.zip in ~/texmf, and run mktexlsr afterwar= ds. > > Roland > -- Roland, I was finally able to compile this one with tikz stuff :) but with texlive2010 not with teTeX from ports(yet). Followed your suggestions, except that I did a global install of pgf file in /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf/ folder, copied pgf zip file there and unzipped it, ran mktexlsr as root and finally had to snatch picnic.sty http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex209/contrib/picins then it worked. I might have to try something similar with the teTeX system but it looks more complicated, there are more files and where should I place them so that everything falls into place? Anyhow, thanks for the suggestions. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 00:36:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32ED106564A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A50D8FC19 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so8311042iyb.13 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UiE3pzydmj8BooeFRed8JfMWfW07bs46QEQ6Vep1VT4=; b=w7ZWLpWAg8AvjNufU5BvbBqMCQBu+XsDC6A7S0GA5HKT70thC4/gvK5DSqjct6ivg6 y3cmDmijpUbHDQ4RbiOz2DaapMqVgkwbNMd5cJv/fzZWjNjdAX6q1E/jYyYawIDv7RoM xPlC1hj0qR8q5XZy8IhWtv+2bRyYlh4svQ8Gk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.193.137 with SMTP id du9mr2526466ibb.136.1312158994713; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.179.67 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715235610.GA70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110718091913.GA4092@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:36:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 00:36:35 -0000 > http://pastebin.com/23RCus2a > > http://tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/lshort-5.01.src.tar.gz > > ran gmake and I see the errors. > One error is that in src/ folder, the file lshort-letter.tex does not exist :(, if we cd to that folder and copy the lshort-a5.tex lshort-letter.tex then it will build provided most of the other files(sty) are found and no error occurs. That is one solution, the other could be editing the Makefile (to not build the lshort-letter.pdf). This lshort was able to build with the fix but on TeXLive not yet with teTeX :(, will see which files I need first then get back to compiling it fully and hopefully I can succeed as well. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 06:56:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977DB106566C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 06:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8A88FC15 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 06:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p716uXvD080961 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4E364E1C.7040800@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:56:28 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110716 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xorg at 100%CPU when browser is on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:56:39 -0000 I saw this with firefox, now I see the same with chrome. After a while when the browser is launched with ~10 tabs open, Xorg begins to consume 100% CPU and all graphics apps get sluggish. Quitting the browser brings situation back to normal. It looks amazing to me that both firefox and chrome exhibit the same behavior. Anybody sees the same? Anybody can explain why would such thing happen? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 10:42:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE18106564A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A3A8FC1B for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so5727479vws.13 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:42:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MCV9dNsFbzcIaEcH5Aa6VGtRbCSl45AC/z8uCZ075oM=; b=mZ+ntR1fllrKIPzZuEl0BD88eEDkmKihd/A3OhQj4Y0aY2xLgRaSykRjWc1zmQg8gA GfBdYS/AXU1TxlEHggWZpSkhIKLt74mqXdQmXT9eyCfCUoxO7Vt8fVu3deAYsI4kAfL2 CNdSlQVvUjn2/DsAIdJ+bJzM9x224535urYfk= Received: by 10.220.194.140 with SMTP id dy12mr213479vcb.68.1312195355104; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([14.99.6.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z6sm1838226vcv.18.2011.08.01.03.41.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E36830B.1000203@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:12:19 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E22CE81.8050106@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E22CE81.8050106@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Help needed : My FreeBSD8.2-amd64 installation keeps crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:42:36 -0000 Hello All, My apologies for the last message and for the delay in rectifying any wrong impression it might have created. It was not FreeBSD8.2-amd64 that was the problem. As I found out, it was the system thermals that was causing my system to crash. I had to turn on my BIOS's temperature warnings to discover the root cause. Playing GNU-Chess against the built-in engine[s] accelerates the rise in system temperatures dramatically. Can anyone please suggest an amd64 (phenom-AM2+) motherboard with smbus support for FreeBSD and capable of running Windows 2000 ? Regards Manish Jain [1]invalid.pointer@gmail.com On 17-Jul-11 17:28, Manish Jain wrote: Hi all, My FreeBSD8.2-amd64 installation keeps crashing - power off in a flash with no warning. I can't imagine what might be the problem. I ran memtest86+ and it cleared Pass 1 with no errors. Win XP runs without any problems. I have pasted below XP Device Manager's system summary report below. (N: is an ext2fs slice and X: is the FreeBSD slice). Can somebody suggest what might the problem be ? There are a couple of points of interest : 1) there are no /dev/smbus* nodes 2) FreeBSD8.0-amd64 ran on my system without problems. Thanks in advance for any help. Meanwhile I am about to start running memtest86+ again to go through 2 Passes. Regards Manish Jain [2]invalid.pointer@gmail.com System Resource Report - Page: 1 ******************** SYSTEM SUMMARY ******************** Windows Version: Windows 5.1 Service Pack 3 (Build 2600) Registered Owner: Manish Jain Registered Organization: Cognizant Computer Name: CTS-235050 Machine Type: AT/AT COMPATIBLE System BIOS Version: GBT - 42302e31 System BIOS Date: 01/02/09 Processor Type: x86 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 3 Processor Vendor: AuthenticAMD Number of Processors: 4 Physical Memory: 3071 MB ******************** DISK DRIVE INFO ******************** Drive C: Type: Fixed disk drive Total Space: 33,032,691,712 bytes Free Space: 13,457,170,432 bytes Heads: 16 Cylinders: 620178 Sectors Per Track: 63 Bytes Per Sector: 512 Drive D: Type: Fixed disk drive Total Space: 240,836,165,632 bytes Free Space: 41,083,314,176 bytes Heads: 16 Cylinders: 620178 Sectors Per Track: 63 Bytes Per Sector: 512 Drive F: Type: CD-ROM drive Total Space: 33,554,432 bytes Drive N: Type: Fixed disk drive Total Space: 4,258,791,424 bytes Free Space: 2,774,253,568 bytes Heads: 16 Cylinders: 620178 Sectors Per Track: 63 Bytes Per Sector: 512 Drive X: Type: Fixed disk drive Total Space: 37,434,163,200 bytes Free Space: 3,302,391,808 bytes Heads: 16 Cylinders: 620178 Sectors Per Track: 63 Bytes Per Sector: 512 ******************** IRQ SUMMARY ******************** IRQ Usage Summary: (ISA) 0 High precision event timer (ISA) 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard (ISA) 4 Communications Port (COM1) System Resource Report - Page: 2 (ISA) 8 High precision event timer (ISA) 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System (ISA) 9 AEMPH6YR IDE Controller (ISA) 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse (ISA) 13 Numeric data processor (ISA) 14 Primary IDE Channel (PCI) 16 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller (PCI) 16 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller (PCI) 16 Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio (PCI) 17 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller (PCI) 18 ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics (PCI) 18 PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge (PCI) 18 Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (PCI) 18 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller (PCI) 18 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller (PCI) 18 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller (PCI) 19 Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio (PCI) 19 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller (PCI) 22 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (PCI) 22 Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller ******************** DMA USAGE SUMMARY ******************** DMA Usage Summary: 3 ECP Printer Port (LPT1) 4 Direct memory access controller ******************** MEMORY SUMMARY ******************** Memory Usage Summary: [00000000 - 0009FFFF] System board [00000000 - 00000FFF] Motherboard resources [000A0000 - 000BFFFF] PCI bus [000A0000 - 000BFFFF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [000A0000 - 000BFFFF] ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [000C0000 - 000DFFFF] PCI bus [000CEA00 - 000CFFFF] System board [000F0000 - 000F7FFF] System board [000F8000 - 000FBFFF] System board [000FC000 - 000FFFFF] System board [00100000 - BFEDFFFF] System board [BFEE0000 - BFEFFFFF] System board [BFFF0000 - CFFEFFFF] System board [D0000000 - FEBFFFFF] PCI bus [D0000000 - DFFFFFFF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [D0000000 - DFFFFFFF] ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [E0000000 - EFFFFFFF] Motherboard resources [FDA00000 - FDAFFFFF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [FDAE0000 - FDAEFFFF] Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) PCI-E Gigabit Ethe [FDAFF000 - FDAFFFFF] Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) PCI-E Gigabit Ethe [FDCF8000 - FDCFBFFF] Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host C [FDCFF000 - FDCFF7FF] Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host C [FDD00000 - FDDFFFFF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [FDE00000 - FDFFFFFF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [FDE00000 - FDEFFFFF] ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [FDFE0000 - FDFEFFFF] ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [FDFFC000 - FDFFFFFF] Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Au [FE024000 - FE027FFF] Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audi [FE028000 - FE028FFF] Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller [FE029000 - FE0290FF] Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller [FE02A000 - FE02AFFF] Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller [FE02B000 - FE02BFFF] Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller System Resource Report - Page: 3 [FE02C000 - FE02C0FF] Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller [FE02D000 - FE02DFFF] Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller [FE02E000 - FE02EFFF] Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller [FE02F000 - FE02F3FF] Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [FEC00000 - FEC00FFF] System board [FED00000 - FED003FF] High precision event timer [FEE00000 - FEE00FFF] System board [FEE00400 - FEE00FFF] Motherboard resources [FFF80000 - FFFEFFFF] System board [FFFF0000 - FFFFFFFF] System board ******************** IO PORT SUMMARY ******************** I/O Ports Usage Summary: [00000000 - 00000CF7] PCI bus [00000000 - 0000000F] Direct memory access controller [00000010 - 0000001F] Motherboard resources [00000020 - 00000021] Programmable interrupt controller [00000022 - 0000003F] Motherboard resources [00000040 - 00000043] System timer [00000044 - 0000005F] Motherboard resources [00000060 - 00000060] Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Ke [00000061 - 00000061] System speaker [00000062 - 00000063] Motherboard resources [00000064 - 00000064] Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Ke [00000065 - 0000006F] Motherboard resources [00000070 - 00000073] System CMOS/real time clock [00000074 - 0000007F] Motherboard resources [00000080 - 00000090] Direct memory access controller [00000091 - 00000093] Motherboard resources [00000094 - 0000009F] Direct memory access controller [000000A0 - 000000A1] Programmable interrupt controller [000000A2 - 000000BF] Motherboard resources [000000C0 - 000000DF] Direct memory access controller [000000E0 - 000000EF] Motherboard resources [000000F0 - 000000FF] Numeric data processor [00000170 - 00000177] Secondary IDE Channel [000001F0 - 000001F7] Primary IDE Channel [00000220 - 00000225] Motherboard resources [00000228 - 0000022F] Motherboard resources [00000238 - 0000023F] Motherboard resources [00000274 - 00000277] ISAPNP Read Data Port [00000279 - 00000279] ISAPNP Read Data Port [00000290 - 00000294] Motherboard resources [00000376 - 00000376] Secondary IDE Channel [00000378 - 0000037F] ECP Printer Port (LPT1) [000003B0 - 000003BB] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [000003B0 - 000003BB] ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [000003C0 - 000003DF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [000003C0 - 000003DF] ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [000003F6 - 000003F6] Primary IDE Channel [000003F8 - 000003FF] Communications Port (COM1) [0000040B - 0000040B] Motherboard resources [000004D0 - 000004D1] Motherboard resources [000004D6 - 000004D6] Motherboard resources [00000778 - 0000077B] ECP Printer Port (LPT1) [00000A79 - 00000A79] ISAPNP Read Data Port [00000B00 - 00000B0F] Motherboard resources [00000B10 - 00000B1F] Motherboard resources [00000B20 - 00000B3F] Motherboard resources [00000C00 - 00000C01] Motherboard resources [00000C14 - 00000C14] Motherboard resources System Resource Report - Page: 4 [00000C50 - 00000C52] Motherboard resources [00000C6C - 00000C6D] Motherboard resources [00000C6F - 00000C6F] Motherboard resources [00000CD0 - 00000CD1] Motherboard resources [00000CD2 - 00000CD3] Motherboard resources [00000CD4 - 00000CDF] Motherboard resources [00000D00 - 0000FFFF] PCI bus [00004000 - 000040FE] Motherboard resources [00004100 - 0000411F] Motherboard resources [00004210 - 00004217] Motherboard resources [0000D000 - 0000DFFF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [0000DC00 - 0000DCFF] Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) PCI-E Gigabit Ethe [0000E000 - 0000EFFF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge [0000EE00 - 0000EEFF] ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics [0000FA00 - 0000FA0F] Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [0000FB00 - 0000FB0F] Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [0000FC00 - 0000FC03] Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [0000FD00 - 0000FD07] Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [0000FE00 - 0000FE03] Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [0000FF00 - 0000FF07] Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [0000FFE0 - 0000FFEF] AEMPH6YR IDE Controller ******************** SYSTEM DEVICE INFO ******************** Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000017] MEM: [FE02C000 - FE02C0FF] Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000019] MEM: [FE029000 - FE0290FF] Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000016] MEM: [FE02E000 - FE02EFFF] Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000018] MEM: [FE02B000 - FE02BFFF] Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000016] MEM: [FE02D000 - FE02DFFF] Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller Resource: System Resource Report - Page: 5 IRQ: [00000018] MEM: [FE02A000 - FE02AFFF] Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000018] MEM: [FE028000 - FE028FFF] Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: USB Root Hub No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: USB Root Hub No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: USB Root Hub No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: USB Root Hub No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: USB Root Hub No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: USB Root Hub No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: USB Root Hub No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Generic USB Hub No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0017 No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0017 USB Ethernet Emulation (WDM) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers System Resource Report - Page: 6 Device: USB Composite Device No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Universal Serial Bus controllers Device: USB Mass Storage Device No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: DVD/CD-ROM drives Device: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: DVD/CD-ROM drives Device: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7240S No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: DVD/CD-ROM drives Device: FWX DUZGLU7C SCSI CdRom Device No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: DVD/CD-ROM drives Device: FWX DUZGLU7C SCSI CdRom Device No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: DVD/CD-ROM drives Device: HUAWEI Mass Storage USB Device No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Computer Device: ACPI Multiprocessor PC No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Disk drives Device: WDC WD3200AAJS-00L7A0 No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Disk drives Device: HUAWEI SD Storage USB Device No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Display adapters Device: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics Resource: IRQ: [00000018] MEM: [000A0000 - 000BFFFF] MEM: [D0000000 - DFFFFFFF] MEM: [FDE00000 - FDEFFFFF] MEM: [FDFE0000 - FDFEFFFF] IO: [000003B0 - 000003BB] IO: [000003C0 - 000003DF] IO: [0000EE00 - 0000EEFF] Device Drivers: System Resource Report - Page: 7 Class: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers Device: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000022] MEM: [FE02F000 - FE02F3FF] IO: [0000FB00 - 0000FB0F] IO: [0000FC00 - 0000FC03] IO: [0000FD00 - 0000FD07] IO: [0000FE00 - 0000FE03] IO: [0000FF00 - 0000FF07] Device Drivers: Class: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers Device: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller Resource: IO: [0000FA00 - 0000FA0F] Device Drivers: Class: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers Device: Primary IDE Channel Resource: IRQ: [00000014] IO: [000001F0 - 000001F7] IO: [000003F6 - 000003F6] Device Drivers: Class: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers Device: Secondary IDE Channel Resource: IO: [00000170 - 00000177] IO: [00000376 - 00000376] Device Drivers: Class: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers Device: Primary IDE Channel No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers Device: Secondary IDE Channel No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Keyboards Device: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard Resource: IRQ: [00000001] IO: [00000060 - 00000060] IO: [00000064 - 00000064] Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: ATI HDMI Audio No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: Realtek High Definition Audio No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers System Resource Report - Page: 8 Device: Audio Codecs No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: Legacy Audio Drivers No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: Media Control Devices No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: Legacy Video Capture Devices No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: Video Codecs No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: Microsoft Kernel System Audio Device No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Sound, video and game controllers Device: Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio Compatibility Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Modems Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0017 USB WMC Data Modem No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Modems Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0017 USB WMC Modem No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Modems Device: HUAWEI Mobile Connect - Modem No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Monitors Device: Plug and Play Monitor No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Mice and other pointing devices Device: PS/2 Compatible Mouse Resource: IRQ: [00000012] Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC System Resource Report - Page: 9 Resource: IRQ: [00000018] MEM: [FDAE0000 - FDAEFFFF] MEM: [FDAFF000 - FDAFFFFF] IO: [0000DC00 - 0000DCFF] Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: MAC Bridge Miniport No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: WAN Miniport (L2TP) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: WAN Miniport (IP) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: WAN Miniport (PPPOE) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: WAN Miniport (PPTP) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: WAN Miniport (IP) - Packet Scheduler Miniport No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0017 USB Ethernet Emulation (NDIS 5) - Packet S No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0016 USB Ethernet Emulation (NDIS 5) - Packet S No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: MAC Bridge Miniport - Packet Scheduler Miniport No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: Direct Parallel No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet1 No resources used. Device Drivers: System Resource Report - Page: 10 Class: Network adapters Device: VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet8 No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0017 USB Ethernet Emulation (NDIS 5) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Network adapters Device: RAS Async Adapter No resources used. Device Drivers: *DISABLED DEVICE* Class: Network adapters Device: 1394 Net Adapter No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Ports (COM & LPT) Device: ECP Printer Port (LPT1) Resource: DMA: [00000003] IO: [00000378 - 0000037F] IO: [00000778 - 0000077B] Device Drivers: Class: Ports (COM & LPT) Device: Communications Port (COM1) Resource: IRQ: [00000004] IO: [000003F8 - 000003FF] Device Drivers: Class: Ports (COM & LPT) Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0017 USB WMC OBEX Interface (COM21) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Ports (COM & LPT) Device: Sony Ericsson Device 0017 USB WMC Device Management (COM22) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Ports (COM & LPT) Device: HUAWEI Mobile Connect - Application Interface (COM5) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Ports (COM & LPT) Device: HUAWEI Mobile Connect - PC UI Interface (COM6) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: SCSI and RAID controllers Device: AEMPH6YR IDE Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000009] IO: [0000FFE0 - 0000FFEF] Device Drivers: System Resource Report - Page: 11 Class: System devices Device: ACPI Fixed Feature Button No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Programmable interrupt controller No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: System timer No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: High precision event timer No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Direct memory access controller No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: System speaker No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI bus Resource: MEM: [000A0000 - 000BFFFF] MEM: [000C0000 - 000DFFFF] MEM: [D0000000 - FEBFFFFF] IO: [00000000 - 00000CF7] IO: [00000D00 - 0000FFFF] Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Extended IO Bus No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: System CMOS/real time clock Resource: IO: [00000070 - 00000073] Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: System board No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Motherboard resources No resources used. Device Drivers: System Resource Report - Page: 12 Class: System devices Device: Motherboard resources No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Motherboard resources No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Numeric data processor No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: ACPI Power Button No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Microsoft Windows Management Interface for ACPI No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System Resource: IRQ: [00000009] Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: ISAPNP Read Data Port Resource: IO: [00000274 - 00000277] IO: [00000279 - 00000279] IO: [00000A79 - 00000A79] Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Printer Port Logical Interface No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio Resource: IRQ: [00000016] MEM: [FE024000 - FE027FFF] Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: ATI SMBus No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices System Resource Report - Page: 13 Device: PCI standard ISA bridge No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio Resource: IRQ: [00000019] MEM: [FDFFC000 - FDFFFFFF] Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard host CPU bridge No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard host CPU bridge No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard host CPU bridge No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard host CPU bridge No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard host CPU bridge No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard host CPU bridge No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge Resource: MEM: [000A0000 - 000BFFFF] MEM: [D0000000 - DFFFFFFF] MEM: [FDE00000 - FDFFFFFF] IO: [000003B0 - 000003BB] IO: [000003C0 - 000003DF] IO: [0000E000 - 0000EFFF] Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge Resource: IRQ: [00000018] MEM: [FDA00000 - FDAFFFFF] MEM: [FDD00000 - FDDFFFFF] IO: [0000D000 - 0000DFFF] Device Drivers: Class: System devices System Resource Report - Page: 14 Device: Microsoft Composite Battery No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Logical Disk Manager No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Volume Manager No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Terminal Server Device Redirector No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Terminal Server Keyboard Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Terminal Server Mouse Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Microcode Update Device No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: System devices Device: Microsoft System Management BIOS Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Processors Device: AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Processors Device: AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Processors Device: AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Processors Device: AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor No resources used. System Resource Report - Page: 15 Device Drivers: Class: IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers Device: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Resource: IRQ: [00000022] MEM: [FDCF8000 - FDCFBFFF] MEM: [FDCFF000 - FDCFF7FF] Device Drivers: Class: Storage volumes Device: Generic volume No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Storage volumes Device: Generic volume No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Storage volumes Device: Generic volume No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Storage volumes Device: Generic volume No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Storage volumes Device: Generic volume No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Batteries Device: APC Battery BackUP No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Human Interface Devices Device: American Power Conversion USB UPS No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: avast! Asynchronous Virus Monitor No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: AFD No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: 1394 ARP Client Protocol No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Aspi32 System Resource Report - Page: 16 No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: aswRdr No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: aswSP No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: avast! Network Shield Support No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Beep No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: C-Dilla No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: dmboot No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: dmload No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: ffs No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Fips No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: gdrv No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Generic Packet Classifier No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: VMware hcmon No resources used. Device Drivers: System Resource Report - Page: 17 Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: HTTP No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: IP Network Address Translator No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: IPSEC driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: PnP ISA/EISA Bus Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: ksecdd No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: mnmdd No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: mountmgr No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: NDIS System Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Remote Access NDIS TAPI Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: NDIS Usermode I/O Protocol No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: NDProxy No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: NetBios over Tcpip No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers System Resource Report - Page: 18 Device: Null No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: PartMgr No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: ParVdm No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Remote Access Auto Connection Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: RDPCDD No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: RDPWD No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Secdrv No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: sptd No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: TCP/IP Protocol Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: TCP Half Open Limited Patcher ( TCP-Z) No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: TDTCP No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: VgaSave No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: VMware vmci No resources used. System Resource Report - Page: 19 Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: VMware Bridge Protocol No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: VMware Network Application Interface No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: VMware VMparport No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: VMware vmx86 No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: VolSnap No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Vstor2 WS60 Virtual Storage Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Remote Access IP ARP Driver No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Kernel Mode Driver Frameworks service No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Windows Socket 2.0 Non-IFS Service Provider Support Environment No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Non-Plug and Play Drivers Device: Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driver Framework Platform Driv No resources used. Device Drivers: Class: Portable Devices Device: W595 No resources used. Device Drivers: References 1. mailto:invalid.pointer@gmail.com 2. mailto:invalid.pointer@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 12:36:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19225106564A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18CD8FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxg33 with SMTP id 33so5736191vxg.13 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 05:36:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.7.82 with SMTP id c18mr1222805vcc.45.1312202179926; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 05:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.25.7 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 05:36:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.187.185] In-Reply-To: <4E364E1C.7040800@rawbw.com> References: <4E364E1C.7040800@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:36:19 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Xorg at 100%CPU when browser is on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 12:36:21 -0000 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Yuri wrote: > I saw this with firefox, now I see the same with chrome. > > After a while when the browser is launched with ~10 tabs open, Xorg begins > to consume 100% CPU and all graphics apps get sluggish. Quitting the browser > brings situation back to normal. > > It looks amazing to me that both firefox and chrome exhibit the same > behavior. > > Anybody sees the same? Anybody can explain why would such thing happen? Same here, but when mplayer plays some (rare) video files. Xorg then stays at 100% CPU, and it is impossible to kill it, neither from the inside, nor from the outside (logged in via ssh) with SIGKILL. Only a reboot helps here. Running: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0 r222832 amd64 with xorg-server-1.7.7_1,1 xorg-drivers-7.5.1 and the radeonhd driver: (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:9610:1462:7501 ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics rev 0, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xfe9e0000/65536, 0xfe800000/1048576, I/O @ 0x0000d000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 (II) LoadModule: "radeonhd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeonhd_drv.so (II) Module radeonhd: vendor="AMD GPG" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.3.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) RADEONHD: version 1.3.0, built from dist of git branch master, commit 8cbff7bf (II) RADEONHD(0): ATOM BIOS Rom: SubsystemVendorID: 0x1002 SubsystemID: 0x1002 IOBaseAddress: 0xd000 Filename: MS7501_H_5.b BIOS Bootup Message: B27721 RS780 DDR2 200e/500m It happens only rarely, I can't reproduce that bug reliably. > Yuri -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 14:25:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AD3106564A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26968FC17 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id RAA27720; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:14:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4E36B4CF.3060308@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:14:39 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110705 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Lobo References: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Phenom II 975 BE shows 0 celsius X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:25:57 -0000 on 01/08/2011 03:28 Mario Lobo said the following: > Hi to all > > In my desktop machine, I had an AM2+ ASROCK mobo with Phenom II 955 BE that > showed each core temperature perfectly under FBSD 8-STABLE, via > dev.cpu.x.temp. amdtemp.ko loaded. > > Unfortunately this Mobo died and only found AM3 boards for which my phenom 955 > doesn't fit. So I got an ASUS M4A88T-V EVO with a Phenom II 975 BE. > > Funny thing. An AM3 phenom II fits on an AM2 board but an AM3 board doesn't > accept an AM2/AM2+ phenom II :(. > > Anyway, now, under the very same system, it shows 0 degrees on dev.cpu.x.temp > for all cores. Sorry, I've got lost in all the config changes. So what system do you have now? Can please also provide CPU-related information from dmesg? > I've been looking through k8temp and amdtemp src code. I am definitely not > sure of this but I believe something might have happened to those: > > From k8temp.h > > K10_THERM_REG 0xa4 > K10_THERMTRIP_REG 0xe4 > K10_CURTMP(val) (((val) >> 21) & 0xfff) > K10_THERMTRIP(val) ((val >> 1) & 1) > > From amdtemp.c > > /* > * Register control (K8 family) > */ > #define AMDTEMP_REG0F 0xe4 > #define AMDTEMP_REG_SELSENSOR 0x40 > #define AMDTEMP_REG_SELCORE 0x04 > > /* > * Register control (K10 & K11) family > */ > #define AMDTEMP_REG 0xa4 > > > Output of k8temp -dn: > > CPUID: Vendor: AuthenticAMD, 0x100f43: Model=04 Family=f+1 Stepping=3 > Advanced Power Management=0x1f9 > Temperature sensor: Yes > Frequency ID control: No > Voltage ID control: No > THERMTRIP support: Yes > HW Thermal control: Yes > SW Thermal control: Yes > 100MHz multipliers: Yes > HW P-State control: Yes > TSC Invariant: Yes > Temp=c0fef > ThermTrip=1fc00c30 > 0 > > I keep a small win7 partition to test little things like this and see if the > same thing happens there, and it doesn't, so I concluded that the sensors are > there and are working. > > One thing is worth noting though. I have used a free gadget that shows > activity/temp for each core. It worked fine with the previous MB/CPU.That ALSO > stopped working with this new MB. Like FBSD, it shows 0 degrees for any core > too, although it correctly displays each core load. Most likely that gadget just re-uses OS-provided information. > The only windows tool that correctly shows the temperature are the ASUS tools > that came with the mobo. > > Other than that, everything is working fine! The only thing I had to fix was > the fstab ada location. > > I know this is not a big thing but I got accustomed to keeping an eye on those > temperatures. > > I have googled for a few days now searching for Thermal register address or > offsets for the Phenom II 975 BE, or anything related to this problem and > found nothing. Every search on AMD site was fruitless. I could not find a > single bit of tech info on this processor there, or any other tech info for > that matter. http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/31116.pdf > Would any one have any pointers/clues/suggestions on this? I would try to add some printfs (or used dtrace - whichever is easier for you) to see what's going on. Or you can even use pciconf to directly sneak a peek at what's reported by the hardware, e.g.: # pciconf -r pci0:0:24:3 0xa4 1c881880 You can read the BKDG to see how to interpret the value - search for F3xA4. See F3xE4 for offset calculation. Hopefully you should be able to see if hardware reports sane value and how the amdtemp ends up reporting 0°C. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 14:30:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBFB1065674 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067BA8FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.142] (helo=smtp11.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QntVs-0003ID-Ib for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:30:36 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp11.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QntVr-0007B5-Qd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:30:35 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.37] (192.168.11.37) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 1C0D4D; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:31:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:30:50 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QntVr-0007B5-Qd X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=1.723, vereist 5, BAYES_20 -0.00, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, TW_ZF 0.08) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: larger disk for a zfs pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:30:38 -0000 OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 14:38:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFC0106566C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110588FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p71Ec0Md079367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:38:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p71EbwLl034211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:37:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p71Ebukb034183; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:37:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:37:55 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20110801143754.GD59252@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:38:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: larger disk for a zfs pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:38:01 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 01), Dick Hoogendijk said: > OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks > for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a > larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second > one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. > Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for > a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? Should be the same procedure. Make sure you either use "zpool online -e" when swapping in the new disks, or that you have the zpool autoexpand=on attribute set. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 14:58:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF5E106564A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Traiano.Welcome@mtnbusiness.co.za) Received: from smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za (smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za [41.181.93.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEBE8FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.30.97.135] (helo=CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net) by smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za with esmtp (ULTRA Special SMTP Internal Alpha) (envelope-from ) id 1QntWd-0001B1-Ro for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:31:23 +0200 Received: from CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net ([196.30.97.135]) by CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net ([196.30.97.135]) with mapi id 14.01.0218.012; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:30:34 +0200 From: Traiano Welcome To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Thread-Topic: Linux Binary Compatibility: Libpam compile for FreeBSD Thread-Index: AQHMUFcSrapjoVwPW0OOgoVZMl2WCA== Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:30:32 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [41.181.32.21] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Linux Binary Compatibility: Libpam compile for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:58:52 -0000 Hi List=0A= =0A= I need to run a linux binary on freebsd 7.3 that expects to link to libpam.= so.0. I can't seem to find how to compile libpam (linux-pam) on freebsd, or= locate some kind of compatible binary I can run on freebsd with linux bina= ry compatibility enabled in the ports tree either. =0A= =0A= Would anyone know if there is a freebsd port of linux libpam, or a source p= ackage I could easily compile for freebsd 7.3 and upward ?=0A= =0A= Informational: The binary I'm trying to run is "wmic" , a windows managemen= t instrumentation client, for monitoring windows systems via wmi. There doe= s not seem to be a wmi client available for FreeBSD, hence me resorting to = a binary compiled for linux :-(=0A= =0A= some information on the binary:=0A= =0A= ---=0A= wmic: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Lin= ux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped=0A= ---=0A= =0A= running it:=0A= =0A= ---=0A= ./wmic: error while loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0: cannot open shar= ed object file: No such file or directory=0A= ---=0A= =0A= Any other suggestions that might help resolving this quandary would be welc= ome :-)=0A= =0A= Thanks in Advance,=0A= Traiano Welcome= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 15:04:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16142106564A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02318FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.149] (helo=smtp17.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qnu30-0005bG-A7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:04:50 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp17.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qnu2x-0003dX-8g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:04:47 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.37] (192.168.11.37) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 3E5A52; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:05:28 +0200 Message-ID: <4E36C09E.8050709@nagual.nl> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:05:02 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> <20110801143754.GD59252@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20110801143754.GD59252@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Qnu2x-0003dX-8g X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.176, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, TW_ZF 0.08) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: larger disk for a zfs pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:04:52 -0000 Op 1-8-2011 16:37, Dan Nelson schreef: > In the last episode (Aug 01), Dick Hoogendijk said: >> OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks >> for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a >> larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second >> one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. >> Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for >> a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? > Should be the same procedure. Make sure you either use "zpool online -e" > when swapping in the new disks, or that you have the zpool autoexpand=on > attribute set. But I'm confused about the gpart thing I did on the original disks. $ gpart show => 34 156301421 ad4 GPT (75G) 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) 162 8388608 2 freebsd-swap (4.0G) 8388770 147912685 3 freebsd-zfs (71G) => 34 156301421 ad6 GPT (75G) 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) 162 8388608 2 freebsd-swap (4.0G) 8388770 147912685 3 freebsd-zfs (71G) Do I repeat this gpart section on the new disk(s) before putting them in the rpool (one at a time). Is it compatrible to putting the solaris bootcode on disk before attaching them to a rootpool and resilvering? I want to expand my rootpool but am a little confused about the right procedure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 15:08:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC8F106566B for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322F68FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.134] (helo=smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qnu6i-0000El-Q5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:08:40 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qnu6i-0004ax-4K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:08:40 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.37] (192.168.11.37) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 3B9958; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:09:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4E36C187.2050902@nagual.nl> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:08:55 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> <20110801150614.GA87286@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20110801150614.GA87286@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Qnu6i-0004ax-4K X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.176, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, TW_ZF 0.08) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: larger disk for a zfs pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:08:42 -0000 Op 1-8-2011 17:06, andrew clarke schreef: > On Mon 2011-08-01 16:30:50 UTC+0200, Dick Hoogendijk (dick@nagual.nl) wrote: > >> OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks >> for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a >> larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second >> one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. >> Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for >> a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? > By the way, a similar question appeared on the freebsd-fs list recently: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-June/011887.html > > Although the question was asked with regards to ZFS v28, which may be > newer than what you are using. Thanks for the pointer. It's not hopeful plus the fact that I want to expand a rootpool from which I want to boot the system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 15:09:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C1F1065676 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [78.47.239.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3F18FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by kukulies.org (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 147CF1AC003; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:09:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.27.4.215] (unknown [87.79.34.228]) by kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED1151AC002 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:09:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E36C1B1.4090708@kukulies.org> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:09:37 +0200 From: "Christoph P.U. Kukulies" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E352563.2070808@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <4E352563.2070808@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: invalid argument in select() when peer socket is in FD_SET X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:09:52 -0000 Am 31.07.2011 11:50, schrieb Christoph P.U. Kukulies: > I have written a small to test TCP/IP roundtrip times of the packets > in a proprietary protocol and while > compiling and running this server on different platforms (Windows > 7/cygwin, UbuntuLinux, FreeBSD 8.0 Release), I found > that the server produces an error when the listening socket (on which > the accpet() is performed) is member of the select() > fd_set. > > On the other platforms the program works without error, just under > FreeBSD I'm getting this "invalid argument" error. > > Comments appreciated (despite comments about the error checking logic :) > > Here is the code: > // testsrv.c > // gcc -o testsrv testsrv.c > // > > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > > #include > > #define USEDBUFSIZ 60 > #define MAX_HOSTNAME 256 > #define MAXFDS 256 > #define CLRBUF memset(buf,0,sizeof(buf)) > #define max(a,b) (((a) > (b)) ? (a) : (b)) > static unsigned char buf[256]; > int array_of_fds[MAXFDS]; > static fd_set clientfds; > #define SOCKET int > void *memset(void *, int, size_t); > int enter (int); > int remov (int); > int invalidip (char *); > void exit (int); > int getv (int, unsigned char *, int); > int getfds (); > > int > main(int argc, char **argv) > { > int nfds; > static fd_set readfds; > SOCKET ListenSocket, newsockfd; > struct sockaddr_in cli_addr; > struct sockaddr_in service; > struct hostent *thisHost; > int bOptVal = 0; > int bOptLen = sizeof(int); > char hostname[256]; > char *host_addr; > struct in_addr addr = {0}; > char *ip; > u_short port; > int iResult = 0; > int i , n, m, clilen, dummy, connect = 0; > struct timeval tv; > //--------------------------------------- > //Create a listening socket > ListenSocket = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_TCP); > if (ListenSocket == -1) { > perror("socket creation"); > return 1; > } else > printf("ListenSocket=%d\n", ListenSocket); > //--------------------------------------- > //Bind the socket to the local IP address > // and port 3210 > port = 3210; > if (gethostname(hostname, 256)) > perror("gethostname failed\n"), exit(3); > printf("%s\n", hostname), fflush(stdout); > thisHost = gethostbyname(hostname); > ip = inet_ntoa(*(struct in_addr *)(*thisHost->h_addr_list)); > > > if (argc == 2) { > host_addr = argv[1]; > service.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(host_addr); > thisHost = gethostbyaddr((const char *)&service.sin_addr.s_addr, > sizeof(service.sin_addr.s_addr), > AF_INET); > if (thisHost == 0) > printf("host unknown\n"), exit(3); > if (invalidip(host_addr)) > printf("invalid IP\n"), exit(4); > } else { > service.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(ip); > } > service.sin_port = htons(port); > service.sin_family = AF_INET; > > iResult = bind(ListenSocket, (struct sockaddr *)&service, > sizeof(service)); > if (iResult == -1) { > perror("bind"); > shutdown(ListenSocket, SHUT_RDWR); > return 1; > } > listen(ListenSocket, SOMAXCONN); > printf("SOMAXCONN=%d %d\n", SOMAXCONN, FD_SETSIZE); > /* all sockets are put into an own array_of_fs */ > /* in the while() loop below the FD_SET id used by looping through > the */ > /* array_of_fds to fill the readfds array in the select() */ > > enter(ListenSocket); > > /* > * Wait for connect > */ > tv.tv_sec = 0; > tv.tv_usec = 5000000; /* 5 seconds */ A friendly soul on FreeBSD-hackers told me that my tv_usec value is wrong in the timeval struct above. FreeBSD checks if it is in the range of 0 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B809106566C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from outbound.icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACC18FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:27:30 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAAPFNk58qgxC/2dsb2JhbABBp2F3gUABAQQBOj8FCwsNORQYMROHbMAKhWNfBJdzLYtR X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,301,1309708800"; d="scan'208";a="133449837" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.170.12.66]) by outbound.icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2011 23:27:28 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E38AC10CE; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:27:25 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:27:25 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20110801152725.GB87286@ozzmosis.com> References: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> <20110801143754.GD59252@dan.emsphone.com> <4E36C09E.8050709@nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E36C09E.8050709@nagual.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Dan Nelson , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: larger disk for a zfs pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:27:31 -0000 On Mon 2011-08-01 17:05:02 UTC+0200, Dick Hoogendijk (dick@nagual.nl) wrote: > But I'm confused about the gpart thing I did on the original disks. > > $ gpart show > => 34 156301421 ad4 GPT (75G) > 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) > 162 8388608 2 freebsd-swap (4.0G) > 8388770 147912685 3 freebsd-zfs (71G) > > => 34 156301421 ad6 GPT (75G) > 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) > 162 8388608 2 freebsd-swap (4.0G) > 8388770 147912685 3 freebsd-zfs (71G) > Do I repeat this gpart section on the new disk(s) before putting them in > the rpool (one at a time). Basically yes. Both drives in the mirror need the freebsd-boot partition, otherwise the drive without freebsd-boot won't be bootable if the other drive fails to boot. freebsd-swap can be any size. The sector count of the freebsd-zfs partition on the new drive needs to be equal or greater to the existing sector count, though. 147912685 in your case. gpart should do that automatically if the replacement drive is larger and you tell it just to use the remaining space. Don't forget this step: gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i nnn device > Is it compatrible to putting the solaris bootcode on disk before > attaching them to a rootpool and resilvering? I want to expand my > rootpool but am a little confused about the right procedure. I've not used Solaris, but I assume so. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 15:29:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717321065676 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6728FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:29:36 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAKW/Nk58qgxC/2dsb2JhbABBp2F3gUABAQQBOj8FCwsNATgUGDETh2y/boVjXwSXcy2LUQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,300,1309708800"; d="scan'208";a="669529613" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.170.12.66]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2011 23:01:38 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D2CFA10C3; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:01:35 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:01:35 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20110801150135.GA87150@ozzmosis.com> References: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> <20110801143754.GD59252@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110801143754.GD59252@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Dick Hoogendijk , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: larger disk for a zfs pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:29:37 -0000 On Mon 2011-08-01 09:37:55 UTC-0500, Dan Nelson (dnelson@allantgroup.com) wrote: > In the last episode (Aug 01), Dick Hoogendijk said: > > > OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks > > for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a > > larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second > > one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. > > Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for > > a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? > > Should be the same procedure. Make sure you either use "zpool online -e" > when swapping in the new disks, or that you have the zpool autoexpand=on > attribute set. On my FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE machine, "-e" is an "invalid option" and "autoexpand" an "invalid property". I suspect these are features of ZFS v28 and are not provided with the ZFS v15 provided with FreeBSD 8.2-REL. Judging from behaviour I experienced experimenting with ZFS in a virtual machine using 8.2-REL, it was possible to replace all drives in a ZFS mirror with larger ones and increase the size of the pool, but (after resilvering) it required either a reboot, or (if I recall correctly): zpool export tank zpool import tank for the increased size to become available. So I assume "autoexpand" was implied for ZFS v15. However this was not with FreeBSD booting from 'tank'. Trying to run "zpool export tank" may result in a "Device busy" error if the boot device was the "tank" pool. It might be worthwhile experimenting in on a spare (or virtual) machine to get a definitive answer, especially since there seem to be differences depending on FreeBSD version. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 15:34:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BC91065672 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from outbound.icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB2F8FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:34:53 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAEbANk58qgxC/2dsb2JhbABBp2F3gUABAQEBAgEBAjc/BQsLDTkUFAQxE4dsBL90hWNfBJBvhwQti1E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,301,1309708800"; d="scan'208";a="133448083" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.170.12.66]) by outbound.icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2011 23:06:17 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB9AD10C7; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:06:14 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:06:14 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20110801150614.GA87286@ozzmosis.com> References: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E36B89A.4090200@nagual.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: larger disk for a zfs pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:34:54 -0000 On Mon 2011-08-01 16:30:50 UTC+0200, Dick Hoogendijk (dick@nagual.nl) wrote: > OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks > for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a > larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second > one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. > Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for > a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it? By the way, a similar question appeared on the freebsd-fs list recently: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-June/011887.html Although the question was asked with regards to ZFS v28, which may be newer than what you are using. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 16:24:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31FC106564A; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:23:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4E36B4CF.3060308@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4E36B4CF.3060308@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_bMtNOs9uQI1kw+C" Message-Id: <201108011223.55772.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: Phenom II 975 BE shows 0 celsius X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:24:09 -0000 --Boundary-00=_bMtNOs9uQI1kw+C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 01 August 2011 10:14 am, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 01/08/2011 03:28 Mario Lobo said the following: > > Hi to all > > > > In my desktop machine, I had an AM2+ ASROCK mobo with Phenom II > > 955 BE that showed each core temperature perfectly under FBSD > > 8-STABLE, via dev.cpu.x.temp. amdtemp.ko loaded. > > > > Unfortunately this Mobo died and only found AM3 boards for which > > my phenom 955 doesn't fit. So I got an ASUS M4A88T-V EVO with a > > Phenom II 975 BE. > > > > Funny thing. An AM3 phenom II fits on an AM2 board but an AM3 > > board doesn't accept an AM2/AM2+ phenom II :(. > > > > Anyway, now, under the very same system, it shows 0 degrees on > > dev.cpu.x.temp for all cores. > > Sorry, I've got lost in all the config changes. So what system do > you have now? Can please also provide CPU-related information from > dmesg? > > > I've been looking through k8temp and amdtemp src code. I am > > definitely not sure of this but I believe something might have > > happened to those: > > > > From k8temp.h > > > > K10_THERM_REG 0xa4 > > K10_THERMTRIP_REG 0xe4 > > K10_CURTMP(val) (((val) >> 21) & 0xfff) > > K10_THERMTRIP(val) ((val >> 1) & 1) > > > > From amdtemp.c > > > > /* > > * Register control (K8 family) > > */ > > #define AMDTEMP_REG0F 0xe4 > > #define AMDTEMP_REG_SELSENSOR 0x40 > > #define AMDTEMP_REG_SELCORE 0x04 > > > > /* > > * Register control (K10 & K11) family > > */ > > #define AMDTEMP_REG 0xa4 > > > > > > Output of k8temp -dn: > > > > CPUID: Vendor: AuthenticAMD, 0x100f43: Model=04 Family=f+1 > > Stepping=3 Advanced Power Management=0x1f9 > > Temperature sensor: Yes > > Frequency ID control: No > > Voltage ID control: No > > THERMTRIP support: Yes > > HW Thermal control: Yes > > SW Thermal control: Yes > > 100MHz multipliers: Yes > > HW P-State control: Yes > > TSC Invariant: Yes > > Temp=c0fef > > ThermTrip=1fc00c30 > > 0 > > > > I keep a small win7 partition to test little things like this and > > see if the same thing happens there, and it doesn't, so I > > concluded that the sensors are there and are working. > > > > One thing is worth noting though. I have used a free gadget that > > shows activity/temp for each core. It worked fine with the > > previous MB/CPU.That ALSO stopped working with this new MB. Like > > FBSD, it shows 0 degrees for any core too, although it correctly > > displays each core load. > > Most likely that gadget just re-uses OS-provided information. > > > The only windows tool that correctly shows the temperature are > > the ASUS tools that came with the mobo. > > > > Other than that, everything is working fine! The only thing I had > > to fix was the fstab ada location. > > > > I know this is not a big thing but I got accustomed to keeping an > > eye on those temperatures. > > > > I have googled for a few days now searching for Thermal register > > address or offsets for the Phenom II 975 BE, or anything related > > to this problem and found nothing. Every search on AMD site was > > fruitless. I could not find a single bit of tech info on this > > processor there, or any other tech info for that matter. > > http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/31116.pdf > > > Would any one have any pointers/clues/suggestions on this? > > I would try to add some printfs (or used dtrace - whichever is > easier for you) to see what's going on. Or you can even use > pciconf to directly sneak a peek at what's reported by the > hardware, e.g.: > # pciconf -r pci0:0:24:3 0xa4 > 1c881880 > > You can read the BKDG to see how to interpret the value - search > for F3xA4. See F3xE4 for offset calculation. > > Hopefully you should be able to see if hardware reports sane value > and how the amdtemp ends up reporting 0�C. I gave up the DiodeOffset recently because a lot of BIOSes do not set any meaningful values. Instead, I added a tunable for that. Please see the attached patch, which is also available from here: http://people.freebsd.org/~jkim/amdtemp.diff Jung-uk Kim --Boundary-00=_bMtNOs9uQI1kw+C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; name="amdtemp.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="amdtemp.diff" Index: share/man/man4/amdtemp.4 =================================================================== --- share/man/man4/amdtemp.4 (revision 221788) +++ share/man/man4/amdtemp.4 (working copy) @@ -25,12 +25,14 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd April 8, 2008 +.Dd May 11, 2011 .Dt AMDTEMP 4 .Os .Sh NAME .Nm amdtemp -.Nd device driver for AMD K8, K10 and K11 on-die digital thermal sensor +.Nd device driver for +.Tn AMD +processor on-die digital thermal sensor .Sh SYNOPSIS To compile this driver into the kernel, place the following line in your @@ -49,22 +51,48 @@ amdtemp_load="YES" The .Nm driver provides support for the on-die digital thermal sensor present -in AMD K8, K10 and K11 processors. +in +.Tn AMD +Family 0Fh, 10h, 11h, 12h, and 14h processors. .Pp -For the K8 family, the +For Family 0Fh processors, the .Nm -driver reports each core's temperature through a sysctl node in the -corresponding CPU devices's sysctl tree, named -.Va dev.amdtemp.%d.sensor{0,1}.core{0,1} . +driver reports each core's temperature through sysctl nodes, named +.Va dev.amdtemp.%d.core{0,1}.sensor{0,1} . The driver also creates .Va dev.cpu.%d.temperature -displaying the maximum temperature of the two sensors -located in each CPU core. +in the corresponding CPU device's sysctl tree, displaying the maximum +temperature of the two sensors located in each CPU core. .Pp -For the K10 and K11 families, the driver creates +For Family 10h, 11h, 12h, and 14h processors, the driver reports each +package's temperature through a sysctl node, named +.Va dev.amdtemp.%d.core0.sensor0 . +The driver also creates .Va dev.cpu.%d.temperature -with the temperature of each core. +in the corresponding CPU device's sysctl tree, displaying the temperature +of the shared sensor located in each CPU package. +.Sh LOADER TUNABLES +The following tunable can be set at the +.Xr loader 8 +prompt before booting the kernel, or stored in +.Xr loader.conf 5 . +.Bl -tag -width indent +.It Va hw.amdtemp.force_enable +.El +Set to a non-zero value to force enabling the driver for Family 10h Socket +AM2+ and Socket F package processors. +.Sh SYSCTL VARIABLES +The following variable is available as both +.Xr sysctl 8 +variable and +.Xr loader 8 +tunable: +.Bl -tag -width indent +.It Va dev.amdtemp.%d.sensor_offset +.El +Add the given offset to the temperature of the sensor. Default is 0. .Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr loader 8 , .Xr sysctl 8 .Sh HISTORY The @@ -74,6 +102,19 @@ driver first appeared in .Sh AUTHORS .An Rui Paulo Aq rpaulo@FreeBSD.org .An Norikatsu Shigemura Aq nork@FreeBSD.org -.Sh BUGS -AMD K9 is not supported because temperature reporting has been replaced -by Maltese. +.An Jung-uk Kim Aq jkim@FreeBSD.org +.Sh CAVEATS +For Family 10h and later processors, +.Do +(the reported temperature) is a non-physical temperature measured on +an arbitrary scale and it does not represent an actual physical +temperature like die or case temperature. Instead, it specifies +the processor temperature relative to the point at which the system +must supply the maximum cooling for the processor's specified maximum +case temperature and maximum thermal power dissipation +.Dc +according to +.Rs +.%T BIOS and Kernel Developer's Guide (BKDG) for AMD Processors +.%U http://developer.amd.com/documentation/guides/Pages/default.aspx +.Re Index: sys/dev/amdtemp/amdtemp.c =================================================================== --- sys/dev/amdtemp/amdtemp.c (revision 221788) +++ sys/dev/amdtemp/amdtemp.c (working copy) @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ /*- * Copyright (c) 2008, 2009 Rui Paulo * Copyright (c) 2009 Norikatsu Shigemura - * Copyright (c) 2009 Jung-uk Kim + * Copyright (c) 2009-2011 Jung-uk Kim * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ */ /* - * Driver for the AMD CPU on-die thermal sensors for Family 0Fh/10h/11h procs. + * Driver for the AMD CPU on-die thermal sensors. * Initially based on the k8temp Linux driver. */ @@ -42,17 +42,23 @@ __FBSDID("$FreeBSD$"); #include #include -#include #include #include #include +static int amdtemp_force_enable; +TUNABLE_INT("hw.amdtemp.force_enable", &amdtemp_force_enable); +SYSCTL_NODE(_hw, OID_AUTO, amdtemp, CTLFLAG_RD, 0, "amdtemp driver parameters"); +SYSCTL_INT(_hw_amdtemp, OID_AUTO, force_enable, CTLFLAG_RDTUN, + &amdtemp_force_enable, 0, + "Force enabling on Family 10h Socket AM2+ and F package processors"); + typedef enum { - SENSOR0_CORE0, - SENSOR0_CORE1, - SENSOR1_CORE0, - SENSOR1_CORE1, + CORE0_SENSOR0, + CORE0_SENSOR1, + CORE1_SENSOR0, + CORE1_SENSOR1, CORE0, CORE1 } amdsensor_t; @@ -62,11 +68,10 @@ struct amdtemp_softc { int sc_ncores; int sc_ntemps; int sc_flags; -#define AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_QUIRK 0x01 /* DiodeOffset may be incorrect. */ -#define AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_ZERO 0x02 /* DiodeOffset starts from 0C. */ -#define AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_SIGN 0x04 /* DiodeOffsetSignBit is present. */ -#define AMDTEMP_FLAG_CS_SWAP 0x08 /* ThermSenseCoreSel is inverted. */ -#define AMDTEMP_FLAG_CT_10BIT 0x10 /* CurTmp is 10-bit wide. */ +#define AMDTEMP_FLAG_CS_SWAP 0x01 /* ThermSenseCoreSel is inverted. */ +#define AMDTEMP_FLAG_CT_10BIT 0x02 /* CurTmp is 10-bit wide. */ +#define AMDTEMP_FLAG_ALT_OFFSET 0x04 /* CurTmp starts at -28C. */ + int32_t sc_offset; int32_t (*sc_gettemp)(device_t, amdsensor_t); struct sysctl_oid *sc_sysctl_cpu[MAXCPU]; struct intr_config_hook sc_ich; @@ -76,6 +81,7 @@ struct amdtemp_softc { #define DEVICEID_AMD_MISC0F 0x1103 #define DEVICEID_AMD_MISC10 0x1203 #define DEVICEID_AMD_MISC11 0x1303 +#define DEVICEID_AMD_MISC14 0x1703 static struct amdtemp_product { uint16_t amdtemp_vendorid; @@ -84,11 +90,12 @@ static struct amdtemp_product { { VENDORID_AMD, DEVICEID_AMD_MISC0F }, { VENDORID_AMD, DEVICEID_AMD_MISC10 }, { VENDORID_AMD, DEVICEID_AMD_MISC11 }, + { VENDORID_AMD, DEVICEID_AMD_MISC14 }, { 0, 0 } }; /* - * Reported Temperature Control Register (Family 10h/11h only) + * Reported Temperature Control Register */ #define AMDTEMP_REPTMP_CTRL 0xa4 @@ -100,6 +107,12 @@ static struct amdtemp_product { #define AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELSENSOR 0x40 /* Family 0Fh only */ /* + * DRAM Configuration High Register + */ +#define AMDTEMP_DRAM_CONF_HIGH 0x94 /* Function 2 */ +#define AMDTEMP_DRAM_MODE_DDR3 0x0100 + +/* * CPU Family/Model Register */ #define AMDTEMP_CPUID 0xfc @@ -117,6 +130,9 @@ static int32_t amdtemp_gettemp0f(device_t dev, amd static int32_t amdtemp_gettemp(device_t dev, amdsensor_t sensor); static int amdtemp_sysctl(SYSCTL_HANDLER_ARGS); +/* XXX */ +extern uint32_t pci_cfgregread(int, int, int, int, int); + static device_method_t amdtemp_methods[] = { /* Device interface */ DEVMETHOD(device_identify, amdtemp_identify), @@ -173,6 +189,7 @@ amdtemp_identify(driver_t *driver, device_t parent static int amdtemp_probe(device_t dev) { + u_int regs[4]; uint32_t family, model; if (resource_disabled("amdtemp", 0)) @@ -188,7 +205,30 @@ amdtemp_probe(device_t dev) return (ENXIO); break; case 0x10: + if (amdtemp_force_enable) + break; + /* + * Erratum 319 Inaccurate Temperature Measurement + * + * http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/41322.pdf + */ + do_cpuid(0x80000001, regs); + switch ((regs[1] >> 28) & 0xf) { + case 0: /* Socket F */ + return (ENXIO); + case 1: /* Socket AM2+ or AM3 */ + if ((pci_cfgregread(pci_get_bus(dev), + pci_get_slot(dev), 2, AMDTEMP_DRAM_CONF_HIGH, 2) & + AMDTEMP_DRAM_MODE_DDR3) != 0 || model > 0x04 || + (model == 0x04 && (cpu_id & CPUID_STEPPING) >= 3)) + break; + /* XXX 00100F42h (RB-C2) exists in both formats. */ + return (ENXIO); + } + break; case 0x11: + case 0x12: + case 0x14: break; default: return (ENXIO); @@ -201,22 +241,14 @@ amdtemp_probe(device_t dev) static int amdtemp_attach(device_t dev) { + char tn[32]; struct amdtemp_softc *sc = device_get_softc(dev); struct sysctl_ctx_list *sysctlctx; struct sysctl_oid *sysctlnode; - uint32_t regs[4]; uint32_t cpuid, family, model; + int unit; /* - * Errata #154: Incorect Diode Offset - */ - if (cpu_id == 0x20f32) { - do_cpuid(0x80000001, regs); - if ((regs[1] & 0xfff) == 0x2c) - sc->sc_flags |= AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_QUIRK; - } - - /* * CPUID Register is available from Revision F. */ family = CPUID_TO_FAMILY(cpu_id); @@ -232,11 +264,6 @@ amdtemp_attach(device_t dev) /* * Thermaltrip Status Register * - * - DiodeOffsetSignBit - * - * Revision D & E: bit 24 - * Other: N/A - * * - ThermSenseCoreSel * * Revision F & G: 0 - Core1, 1 - Core0 @@ -254,15 +281,39 @@ amdtemp_attach(device_t dev) * ThermSenseCoreSel work in undocumented cases as well. * In fact, the Linux driver suggests it may not work but * we just assume it does until we find otherwise. + * + * XXX According to Linux, CurTmp starts at -28C on + * Socket AM2 Revision G processors, which is not + * documented anywhere. */ - if (model < 0x40) { - sc->sc_flags |= AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_ZERO; - if (model >= 0x10) - sc->sc_flags |= AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_SIGN; - } else { + if (model >= 0x40) sc->sc_flags |= AMDTEMP_FLAG_CS_SWAP; - if (model >= 0x60 && model != 0xc1) - sc->sc_flags |= AMDTEMP_FLAG_CT_10BIT; + if (model >= 0x60 && model != 0xc1) { + u_int regs[4], bid; + + do_cpuid(0x80000001, regs); + bid = (regs[1] >> 9) & 0x1f; + switch (model) { + case 0x68: /* Socket S1g1 */ + case 0x6c: + case 0x7c: + break; + case 0x6b: /* Socket AM2 and ASB1 (2 cores) */ + if (bid != 0x0b && bid != 0x0c) + sc->sc_flags |= + AMDTEMP_FLAG_ALT_OFFSET; + break; + case 0x6f: /* Socket AM2 and ASB1 (1 core) */ + case 0x7f: + if (bid != 0x07 && bid != 0x09 && + bid != 0x0c) + sc->sc_flags |= + AMDTEMP_FLAG_ALT_OFFSET; + break; + default: + sc->sc_flags |= AMDTEMP_FLAG_ALT_OFFSET; + } + sc->sc_flags |= AMDTEMP_FLAG_CT_10BIT; } /* @@ -274,6 +325,8 @@ amdtemp_attach(device_t dev) break; case 0x10: case 0x11: + case 0x12: + case 0x14: /* * There is only one sensor per package. */ @@ -297,41 +350,49 @@ amdtemp_attach(device_t dev) /* * dev.amdtemp.N tree. */ + unit = device_get_unit(dev); + snprintf(tn, sizeof(tn), "dev.amdtemp.%d.sensor_offset", unit); + TUNABLE_INT_FETCH(tn, &sc->sc_offset); + sysctlctx = device_get_sysctl_ctx(dev); + SYSCTL_ADD_INT(sysctlctx, + SYSCTL_CHILDREN(device_get_sysctl_tree(dev)), OID_AUTO, + "sensor_offset", CTLFLAG_RW, &sc->sc_offset, 0, + "Temperature sensor offset"); sysctlnode = SYSCTL_ADD_NODE(sysctlctx, SYSCTL_CHILDREN(device_get_sysctl_tree(dev)), OID_AUTO, - "sensor0", CTLFLAG_RD, 0, "Sensor 0"); + "core0", CTLFLAG_RD, 0, "Core 0"); SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(sysctlctx, SYSCTL_CHILDREN(sysctlnode), - OID_AUTO, "core0", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, - dev, SENSOR0_CORE0, amdtemp_sysctl, "IK", - "Sensor 0 / Core 0 temperature"); + OID_AUTO, "sensor0", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, + dev, CORE0_SENSOR0, amdtemp_sysctl, "IK", + "Core 0 / Sensor 0 temperature"); if (sc->sc_ntemps > 1) { - if (sc->sc_ncores > 1) - SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(sysctlctx, - SYSCTL_CHILDREN(sysctlnode), - OID_AUTO, "core1", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, - dev, SENSOR0_CORE1, amdtemp_sysctl, "IK", - "Sensor 0 / Core 1 temperature"); - - sysctlnode = SYSCTL_ADD_NODE(sysctlctx, - SYSCTL_CHILDREN(device_get_sysctl_tree(dev)), OID_AUTO, - "sensor1", CTLFLAG_RD, 0, "Sensor 1"); - SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(sysctlctx, SYSCTL_CHILDREN(sysctlnode), - OID_AUTO, "core0", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, - dev, SENSOR1_CORE0, amdtemp_sysctl, "IK", - "Sensor 1 / Core 0 temperature"); + OID_AUTO, "sensor1", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, + dev, CORE0_SENSOR1, amdtemp_sysctl, "IK", + "Core 0 / Sensor 1 temperature"); - if (sc->sc_ncores > 1) + if (sc->sc_ncores > 1) { + sysctlnode = SYSCTL_ADD_NODE(sysctlctx, + SYSCTL_CHILDREN(device_get_sysctl_tree(dev)), + OID_AUTO, "core1", CTLFLAG_RD, 0, "Core 1"); + SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(sysctlctx, SYSCTL_CHILDREN(sysctlnode), - OID_AUTO, "core1", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, - dev, SENSOR1_CORE1, amdtemp_sysctl, "IK", - "Sensor 1 / Core 1 temperature"); + OID_AUTO, "sensor0", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, + dev, CORE1_SENSOR0, amdtemp_sysctl, "IK", + "Core 1 / Sensor 0 temperature"); + + SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(sysctlctx, + SYSCTL_CHILDREN(sysctlnode), + OID_AUTO, "sensor1", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, + dev, CORE1_SENSOR1, amdtemp_sysctl, "IK", + "Core 1 / Sensor 1 temperature"); + } } /* @@ -377,7 +438,7 @@ amdtemp_intrhook(void *arg) sysctlctx = device_get_sysctl_ctx(cpu); sensor = sc->sc_ntemps > 1 ? - (i == 0 ? CORE0 : CORE1) : SENSOR0_CORE0; + (i == 0 ? CORE0 : CORE1) : CORE0_SENSOR0; sc->sc_sysctl_cpu[i] = SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(sysctlctx, SYSCTL_CHILDREN(device_get_sysctl_tree(cpu)), OID_AUTO, "temperature", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, @@ -415,13 +476,13 @@ amdtemp_sysctl(SYSCTL_HANDLER_ARGS) switch (sensor) { case CORE0: - auxtemp[0] = sc->sc_gettemp(dev, SENSOR0_CORE0); - auxtemp[1] = sc->sc_gettemp(dev, SENSOR1_CORE0); + auxtemp[0] = sc->sc_gettemp(dev, CORE0_SENSOR0); + auxtemp[1] = sc->sc_gettemp(dev, CORE0_SENSOR1); temp = imax(auxtemp[0], auxtemp[1]); break; case CORE1: - auxtemp[0] = sc->sc_gettemp(dev, SENSOR0_CORE1); - auxtemp[1] = sc->sc_gettemp(dev, SENSOR1_CORE1); + auxtemp[0] = sc->sc_gettemp(dev, CORE1_SENSOR0); + auxtemp[1] = sc->sc_gettemp(dev, CORE1_SENSOR1); temp = imax(auxtemp[0], auxtemp[1]); break; default: @@ -439,74 +500,49 @@ static int32_t amdtemp_gettemp0f(device_t dev, amdsensor_t sensor) { struct amdtemp_softc *sc = device_get_softc(dev); - uint32_t mask, temp; - int32_t diode_offset, offset; - uint8_t cfg, sel; + uint32_t mask, offset, temp; /* Set Sensor/Core selector. */ - sel = 0; + temp = pci_read_config(dev, AMDTEMP_THERMTP_STAT, 1); + temp &= ~(AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELCORE | AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELSENSOR); switch (sensor) { - case SENSOR1_CORE0: - sel |= AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELSENSOR; + case CORE0_SENSOR1: + temp |= AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELSENSOR; /* FALLTHROUGH */ - case SENSOR0_CORE0: + case CORE0_SENSOR0: case CORE0: if ((sc->sc_flags & AMDTEMP_FLAG_CS_SWAP) != 0) - sel |= AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELCORE; + temp |= AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELCORE; break; - case SENSOR1_CORE1: - sel |= AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELSENSOR; + case CORE1_SENSOR1: + temp |= AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELSENSOR; /* FALLTHROUGH */ - case SENSOR0_CORE1: + case CORE1_SENSOR0: case CORE1: if ((sc->sc_flags & AMDTEMP_FLAG_CS_SWAP) == 0) - sel |= AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELCORE; + temp |= AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELCORE; break; } - cfg = pci_read_config(dev, AMDTEMP_THERMTP_STAT, 1); - cfg &= ~(AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELSENSOR | AMDTEMP_TTSR_SELCORE); - pci_write_config(dev, AMDTEMP_THERMTP_STAT, cfg | sel, 1); + pci_write_config(dev, AMDTEMP_THERMTP_STAT, temp, 1); - /* CurTmp starts from -49C. */ - offset = AMDTEMP_ZERO_C_TO_K - 490; - - /* Adjust offset if DiodeOffset is set and valid. */ + mask = (sc->sc_flags & AMDTEMP_FLAG_CT_10BIT) != 0 ? 0x3ff : 0x3fc; + offset = (sc->sc_flags & AMDTEMP_FLAG_ALT_OFFSET) != 0 ? 28 : 49; temp = pci_read_config(dev, AMDTEMP_THERMTP_STAT, 4); - diode_offset = (temp >> 8) & 0x3f; - if ((sc->sc_flags & AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_ZERO) != 0) { - if ((sc->sc_flags & AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_SIGN) != 0 && - ((temp >> 24) & 0x1) != 0) - diode_offset *= -1; - if ((sc->sc_flags & AMDTEMP_FLAG_DO_QUIRK) != 0 && - ((temp >> 25) & 0xf) <= 2) - diode_offset += 10; - offset += diode_offset * 10; - } else if (diode_offset != 0) - offset += (diode_offset - 11) * 10; + temp = ((temp >> 14) & mask) * 5 / 2; + temp += AMDTEMP_ZERO_C_TO_K + (sc->sc_offset - offset) * 10; - mask = (sc->sc_flags & AMDTEMP_FLAG_CT_10BIT) != 0 ? 0x3ff : 0x3fc; - temp = ((temp >> 14) & mask) * 5 / 2 + offset; - return (temp); } static int32_t amdtemp_gettemp(device_t dev, amdsensor_t sensor) { + struct amdtemp_softc *sc = device_get_softc(dev); uint32_t temp; - int32_t diode_offset, offset; - /* CurTmp starts from 0C. */ - offset = AMDTEMP_ZERO_C_TO_K; - - /* Adjust offset if DiodeOffset is set and valid. */ - temp = pci_read_config(dev, AMDTEMP_THERMTP_STAT, 4); - diode_offset = (temp >> 8) & 0x7f; - if (diode_offset > 0 && diode_offset < 0x40) - offset += (diode_offset - 11) * 10; - temp = pci_read_config(dev, AMDTEMP_REPTMP_CTRL, 4); - temp = ((temp >> 21) & 0x7ff) * 5 / 4 + offset; + temp = ((temp >> 21) & 0x7ff) * 5 / 4; + temp += AMDTEMP_ZERO_C_TO_K + sc->sc_offset * 10; return (temp); } --Boundary-00=_bMtNOs9uQI1kw+C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 16:34:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E061065670; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) From: Jung-uk Kim To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:34:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201108011234.11176.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Phenom II 975 BE shows 0 celsius X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:34:29 -0000 On Sunday 31 July 2011 08:28 pm, Mario Lobo wrote: > Hi to all > > In my desktop machine, I had an AM2+ ASROCK mobo with Phenom II 955 > BE that showed each core temperature perfectly under FBSD 8-STABLE, > via dev.cpu.x.temp. amdtemp.ko loaded. > > Unfortunately this Mobo died and only found AM3 boards for which my > phenom 955 doesn't fit. So I got an ASUS M4A88T-V EVO with a Phenom > II 975 BE. > > Funny thing. An AM3 phenom II fits on an AM2 board but an AM3 board > doesn't accept an AM2/AM2+ phenom II :(. > > Anyway, now, under the very same system, it shows 0 degrees on > dev.cpu.x.temp for all cores. > > I've been looking through k8temp and amdtemp src code. I am > definitely not > > sure of this but I believe something might have happened to those: > >From k8temp.h > > K10_THERM_REG 0xa4 > K10_THERMTRIP_REG 0xe4 > K10_CURTMP(val) (((val) >> 21) & 0xfff) > K10_THERMTRIP(val) ((val >> 1) & 1) > > >From amdtemp.c > > /* > * Register control (K8 family) > */ > #define AMDTEMP_REG0F 0xe4 > #define AMDTEMP_REG_SELSENSOR 0x40 > #define AMDTEMP_REG_SELCORE 0x04 > > /* > * Register control (K10 & K11) family > */ > #define AMDTEMP_REG 0xa4 > > > Output of k8temp -dn: > > CPUID: Vendor: AuthenticAMD, 0x100f43: Model=04 Family=f+1 > Stepping=3 Advanced Power Management=0x1f9 > Temperature sensor: Yes > Frequency ID control: No > Voltage ID control: No > THERMTRIP support: Yes > HW Thermal control: Yes > SW Thermal control: Yes > 100MHz multipliers: Yes > HW P-State control: Yes > TSC Invariant: Yes > Temp=c0fef > ThermTrip=1fc00c30 > 0 > > I keep a small win7 partition to test little things like this and > see if the same thing happens there, and it doesn't, so I concluded > that the sensors are there and are working. > > One thing is worth noting though. I have used a free gadget that > shows activity/temp for each core. It worked fine with the previous > MB/CPU.That ALSO stopped working with this new MB. Like FBSD, it > shows 0 degrees for any core too, although it correctly displays > each core load. > > The only windows tool that correctly shows the temperature are the > ASUS tools that came with the mobo. FYI, FreeBSD has aibs(4) (or acpi_aiboost(4) depending on your FreeBSD version) and it does essentially the same thing. Jung-uk Kim > Other than that, everything is working fine! The only thing I had > to fix was the fstab ada location. > > I know this is not a big thing but I got accustomed to keeping an > eye on those temperatures. > > I have googled for a few days now searching for Thermal register > address or offsets for the Phenom II 975 BE, or anything related to > this problem and found nothing. Every search on AMD site was > fruitless. I could not find a single bit of tech info on this > processor there, or any other tech info for that matter. > > > Would any one have any pointers/clues/suggestions on this? > > Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 18:18:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EB4106566B for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alphachi@mediaspirit.org) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B848FC15 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so9460677iyb.13 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 11:18:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.147.65 with SMTP id m1mr3350035icv.46.1312221123019; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.229.6 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 10:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:52:02 +0800 Message-ID: From: alphachi To: "list: freebsd" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: About ASUS EeePC 1015B X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:18:47 -0000 ASUS EeePC 1015B hardware list: AMD Fusion APU C50 1.0GHz (dual core) Processor AMD Radeon HD 6250 with WSVGA(1024x600) ... I have installed FreeBSD 8.2R-amd64, but there are some problems: 1. When using "pciconf -lv", I found none0@pci0:0:20:0 class=0x0c0500 card=0x43851002 chip=0x43851002 rev=0x42 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.' device = 'ATI SMBus (ATI RD600/RS600)' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus Which module should be load? I have tried "kldload amdbus" and it's useless. 2. How to enable the camera? The camera is on the screen. In Windows7, the driver name is "ECam Utility". 3. How to enable the Hotkeys? I have using "kldload acpi_asus", but the Hotkeys(Fn+*) can't use. "dmesg -a" found some warning messages: ... ACPI APIC Table : ACPI Warning: incorrect checksum in table [XSDT] - 0x89, should be 0x36 (20101013/tbutils-354) ACPI Warning: Optional field Pm2ControlBlock has zero address or length: 0x0000000000000000/0x1 (20101013/tbfadt-655) acpi0: <_ASUS_Notebook> on motherboard ... 4. Display driver seems exceptional I have installed Xorg 7.5.1 with xf86-video-ati. Although X can work, there are some error messages when enter X: ... failed to set mtrr: Invalid argument ... (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed ... expected keysym, got XF86TouchpadToggle: line 123 of inet ... It looks like the display dirver doesn't take effect. THANKS! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 19:10:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A39F106564A; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from thyme.infocus-llc.com (server.infocus-llc.com [206.156.254.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D988FC0A; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (c-174-50-4-38.hsd1.ms.comcast.net [174.50.4.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thyme.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 333A437B496; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:52:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7E1FB61C43; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:52:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:52:30 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Mario Lobo Message-ID: <20110801185230.GA81791@over-yonder.net> References: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21-fullermd.4 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at thyme.infocus-llc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Phenom II 975 BE shows 0 celsius X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:10:47 -0000 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 09:28:29PM -0300 I heard the voice of Mario Lobo, and lo! it spake thus: > > Unfortunately this Mobo died and only found AM3 boards for which my > phenom 955 doesn't fit. Not that it helps you now, but the 955 _is_ perfectly compatible with AM3. It's only the initial 920 and 940 that were AM2-only. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 20:58:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BA9106566B for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D488FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gate.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.123] helo=h30.sp.ipt.ru) by services.ipt.ru with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Qnz1I-000DRS-SK; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:23:24 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: Traiano Welcome References: Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:23:23 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Traiano Welcome's message of "Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:30:32 +0000") Message-ID: <37201588@h30.sp.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Linux Binary Compatibility: Libpam compile for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:58:05 -0000 Hi All, On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:30:32 +0000 Traiano Welcome wrote: > I need to run a linux binary on freebsd 7.3 that expects to link to > libpam.so.0. I can't seem to find how to compile libpam (linux-pam) on > freebsd, or locate some kind of compatible binary I can run on freebsd > with linux binary compatibility enabled in the ports tree either. > Would anyone know if there is a freebsd port of linux libpam, or a > source package I could easily compile for freebsd 7.3 and upward ? > Informational: The binary I'm trying to run is "wmic" , a windows > management instrumentation client, for monitoring windows systems via > wmi. There does not seem to be a wmi client available for FreeBSD, > hence me resorting to a binary compiled for linux :-( > some information on the binary: > --- > wmic: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for > GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped > --- > running it: > --- > ./wmic: error while loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > --- > Any other suggestions that might help resolving this quandary would be > welcome :-) You may try to install that package by hand: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/pam-0.79-8.i386.rpm Hint: there is a how-to about installing linux packages by hand at the FreeBSD Handbook. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 22:07:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4926106564A for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Traiano.Welcome@mtnbusiness.co.za) Received: from smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za (smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za [41.181.93.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAF18FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.30.97.135] (helo=CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net) by smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za with esmtp (ULTRA Special SMTP Internal Alpha) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo0dT-0008Lk-3C; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:06:55 +0200 Received: from CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net ([196.30.97.135]) by CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net ([196.30.97.135]) with mapi id 14.01.0218.012; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 00:06:06 +0200 From: Traiano Welcome To: Boris Samorodov Thread-Topic: Linux Binary Compatibility: Libpam compile for FreeBSD Thread-Index: AQHMUIjHp7O8yAvykEqUB2STRfM9X5UIjCLc Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:06:05 +0000 Message-ID: References: , <37201588@h30.sp.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <37201588@h30.sp.ipt.ru> Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [209.212.109.2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Linux Binary Compatibility: Libpam compile for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:07:00 -0000 Hi Boris=0A= =0A= (apologies for top-posting)=0A= =0A= Thanks, I had to go this way in the end. My process was:=0A= =0A= 1. enable linux binary compatibility on freebsd.=0A= 2. build a debian chroot environment using debootstrap=0A= 3. obtain some binaries that I could not find in the debian package repos = by extracting them directly from the from binary packages with rpm2cpio=0A= 4. copy all the linux binaries to /usr/compat/linux/lib ... as per the Fre= eBSD Handbook=0A= =0A= After that the binary works perfectly :-) FreeBSD Linux-Binary-Compatibil= ity FTW!!!=0A= =0A= Regards,=0A= Traiano=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Boris Samorodov [bsam@ipt.ru]=0A= Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:23 PM=0A= To: Traiano Welcome=0A= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A= Subject: Re: Linux Binary Compatibility: Libpam compile for FreeBSD=0A= =0A= Hi All,=0A= =0A= On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:30:32 +0000 Traiano Welcome wrote:=0A= =0A= > I need to run a linux binary on freebsd 7.3 that expects to link to=0A= > libpam.so.0. I can't seem to find how to compile libpam (linux-pam) on=0A= > freebsd, or locate some kind of compatible binary I can run on freebsd=0A= > with linux binary compatibility enabled in the ports tree either.=0A= =0A= > Would anyone know if there is a freebsd port of linux libpam, or a=0A= > source package I could easily compile for freebsd 7.3 and upward ?=0A= =0A= > Informational: The binary I'm trying to run is "wmic" , a windows=0A= > management instrumentation client, for monitoring windows systems via=0A= > wmi. There does not seem to be a wmi client available for FreeBSD,=0A= > hence me resorting to a binary compiled for linux :-(=0A= =0A= > some information on the binary:=0A= =0A= > ---=0A= > wmic: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for=0A= > GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped=0A= > ---=0A= =0A= > running it:=0A= =0A= > ---=0A= > ./wmic: error while loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0: cannot open=0A= > shared object file: No such file or directory=0A= > ---=0A= =0A= > Any other suggestions that might help resolving this quandary would be=0A= > welcome :-)=0A= =0A= You may try to install that package by hand:=0A= http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/F= edora/RPMS/pam-0.79-8.i386.rpm=0A= =0A= Hint: there is a how-to about installing linux packages by hand at the=0A= FreeBSD Handbook.=0A= =0A= --=0A= WBR, bsam=0A= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 22:21:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7914C10656D0; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2851F8FC16; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so4403485yxl.13 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.181.234 with SMTP id l70mr3790389yhm.335.1312237307307; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.17.4.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b24sm1338757yhm.53.2011.08.01.15.21.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:21:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:21:38 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <201107312128.29322.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20110801185230.GA81791@over-yonder.net> In-Reply-To: <20110801185230.GA81791@over-yonder.net> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201108011921.39245.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Phenom II 975 BE shows 0 celsius X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:21:48 -0000 On Monday 01 August 2011 15:52:30 Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 09:28:29PM -0300 I heard the voice of > > Mario Lobo, and lo! it spake thus: > > Unfortunately this Mobo died and only found AM3 boards for which my > > phenom 955 doesn't fit. > > Not that it helps you now, but the 955 _is_ perfectly compatible with > AM3. It's only the initial 920 and 940 that were AM2-only. I was just following this: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/CPU-6-socket-am2-plus-phenom-ii- compatibility-alert.aspx -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 01:01:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1559106566B for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F968FC1B for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7211GnH007021; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:01:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7211F5f007018; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:01:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:01:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "C. P. Ghost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4E364E1C.7040800@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:01:16 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Yuri , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Xorg at 100%CPU when browser is on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:01:21 -0000 On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, C. P. Ghost wrote: > Running: > FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0 r222832 amd64 > with > xorg-server-1.7.7_1,1 > xorg-drivers-7.5.1 > and the radeonhd driver: radeonhd is defunct. Everything it does should be done better by the radeon driver from xf86-video-ati. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 01:50:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DF6106566C for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC7B8FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p721oHRn015196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p721oHkh015195; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06174; Mon, 1 Aug 11 18:03:13 PDT Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:03:17 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: cpghost@cordula.ws Message-Id: <4e37af45.60AhLWRppeiOX3eM%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4E364E1C.7040800@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: yuri@rawbw.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg at 100%CPU when browser is on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:50:21 -0000 "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > ... when mplayer plays some (rare) video files. > > Xorg then stays at 100% CPU, and it is impossible to kill it, > neither from the inside, nor from the outside (logged in via > ssh) with SIGKILL. Only a reboot helps here. An unkillable process is almost certainly hung in a driver, and in this case I would strongly suspect it is a video driver. Can you break to KDB (or get a dump) and get a ps listing and a traceback of the hung process? That may enable someone familiar with the particular driver involved to debug it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 02:25:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E657106566C for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 02:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grantwalter2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303AF8FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 02:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so4882157gxk.13 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:25:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=+CLRdiXM9p0B6u8hs59sjR0DE0+4W0maiE5slsQjxqI=; b=fjjZUaQhbPHE+hyGeA00rhn7DMGxqqQNbtwl1jpmEg+yAR4ulbXYE2hm+sBF9+Ltr1 WvNObY0I7NLvTT/KtZbbY7O1dh8oz1kZ+OQf5Wi1a148/Tx36UvMrUF3AKnTSKwXAUl3 NifMa2Z6f9p4TNBcsk6Ohx2s6L9M6zkl4rmdc= Received: by 10.142.80.4 with SMTP id d4mr640659wfb.35.1312250600118; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([184.53.142.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z16sm1094933wff.10.2011.08.01.19.03.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:03:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Grant Walter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:02:59 -0700 Message-Id: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1242) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1242) Cc: Subject: "Distributions" are missing from home burnt CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 02:25:19 -0000 Hi guys, I burned a CD of the LiveFS image and my installation failed. I then = tried installing from the Disk 1 image and the install succeeded.=20 My problem is that there are no "Ditstributions" on the disk. I don't = even have bash now. :( I have searched all over but cannot find a file that contains the = distributions. Thanks for the help!!! -Grant= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 02:53:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027D31065673 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 02:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2F18FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 02:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB6F26D5EE1; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:44:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ow5cXeI6tYwR; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:44:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4509626D5EE0; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:44:00 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:37:22 -0500 Message-Id: <6C8514A2-8346-451F-A127-E90627FBD338@d3photography.com> References: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> To: Grant Walter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Distributions" are missing from home burnt CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 02:53:00 -0000 Distributions, by nature, shouldn't be on the disc... they are outdated = the moment they are made into an ISO. run these commands: These are written assuming you are in as root. # ftp ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz This is a 50MB file. It will take some time. I have found = ftp3.freebsd.org to be the fastest server in the US. # mkdir /usr/ports # chown root:wheel /usr/ports # tar -xzf ./ports.tar.gz -C /usr/ports/ Capital C is required there... it will shift you to the folder you need. You can now build your programs as you need to.=20 /usr/ports/shells/bash* This is also the most current version of the ports since you are getting = it straight off the server. -- Ryan On Aug 1, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Grant Walter wrote: > Hi guys, >=20 > I burned a CD of the LiveFS image and my installation failed. I then = tried installing from the Disk 1 image and the install succeeded.=20 >=20 > My problem is that there are no "Ditstributions" on the disk. I don't = even have bash now. :( > I have searched all over but cannot find a file that contains the = distributions. >=20 > Thanks for the help!!! >=20 > -Grant_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 03:10:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27D31065672 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754958FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so4897892gxk.13 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:10:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QbIYxEPG3s9vdfUhl+MR0+s8o7DQjqONK7qd2sE1HzQ=; b=njAJkyudjaswWXZU+dmoH92+jpthU8NXmcYdd12A7FBolCOaEQUKfdDnQeOYUQO7Ml 9tz63ZT3A6ScuBz+K/hn7N1DYlLnjLYvbC5Jw40vOI5vH5oWHuBZyDHK7q0Z6KitTQqb 8jqlbSeuc4R39f2cc2mMaq3Sl71Ppv5Og6OWQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.8.31 with SMTP id l31mr3712363ani.160.1312252953702; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.174.17 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:42:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> References: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:42:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: Grant Walter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: "Distributions" are missing from home burnt CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:10:31 -0000 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Grant Walter wrote: > Hi guys, > > I burned a CD of the LiveFS image and my installation failed. I then tried installing from the Disk 1 image and the install succeeded. > > My problem is that there are no "Ditstributions" on the disk. I don't even have bash now. :( > I have searched all over but cannot find a file that contains the distributions. > > Thanks for the help!!! There are a couple of ways that you can get bash and other software. First, you can use sysinstall. Read section 2.10.11 "Install Packages" in the Handbook. It can be accessed here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-post.html Or, you can install the ports collection which also contains bash and lots of other software. To install the ports collection use portsnap. You can read about it in the Handbook section 24.3 "Portsnap: A Ports Collection Update Tool". That can be accessed here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-portsnap.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 03:14:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7ED106564A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A448FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so4899218gxk.13 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:14:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0Q8VKOIfRniUiPEJ4L54oq9VlSAKqnnYVkquWiLGQEk=; b=hR/SVFEklqkrfzE7aZnGKkK6MpshDRwMp2HeEEhhAYj3Y9ht65tCwPSx1kPO+dS9Bl yDEZiocbv1LpVvSJKE6lzL943FPtLG8pOSYWAzRr+07JVrIh5THGIOMBu0Q0nbTR9e30 VeVcBfKFrvpNoQ88tFi3m11Ke3x/g7RNfF9l8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.178.21 with SMTP id f21mr3729603anp.138.1312254871037; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.174.17 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:14:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6C8514A2-8346-451F-A127-E90627FBD338@d3photography.com> References: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> <6C8514A2-8346-451F-A127-E90627FBD338@d3photography.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 23:14:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: Ryan Coleman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Grant Walter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Distributions" are missing from home burnt CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:14:32 -0000 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Ryan Coleman wr= ote: > Distributions, by nature, shouldn't be on the disc... they are outdated t= he moment they are made into an ISO. > > run these commands: > > These are written assuming you are in as root. > > # ftp ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz > This is a 50MB file. It will take some time. I have found ftp3.freebsd.or= g to be the fastest server in the US. > # mkdir /usr/ports > # chown root:wheel /usr/ports > # tar -xzf ./ports.tar.gz =A0-C /usr/ports/ > > Capital C is required there... it will shift you to the folder you need. > You can now build your programs as you need to. > /usr/ports/shells/bash* > > This is also the most current version of the ports since you are getting = it straight off the server. Unless I'm missing something completely, portsnap makes sure that you always have the latest ports, and it verifies the integrity of the files that it transfers using a secure key. Your method has no such check, so I would say you shouldn't do it that way or recommend that method to others. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 03:16:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852791065672 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (mail.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFA828FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38116 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2011 02:50:26 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on frostbite.nexlabs.local X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-31.8 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SC_HAM shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.197?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@202.128.216.138) by mail.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2011 02:50:26 -0000 Message-ID: <4E3767D7.8020700@extracktor.com> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:58:31 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: forcing TLS auth in /usr/ports/qmail-tls install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:16:54 -0000 Hi all, Not sure if this is the right spot to ask, but it seems to be particularly pertaining to FreeBSD installations. So here I am. I'm trying to install qmail-tls. The installation is successful - almost right out of the ports. Now I'm trying configure qmail such that only TLS auth is allowed through from the mail client. Digging through the previous related forums, I hope to find the clean solution via this route: http://qmail.jms1.net/tls-auth.shtml It mentions that the config can be put in /service/smtp/run, which in the FreeBSD context it does not exist. I tried to set similar environment variables before calling tcpserver, but it does not work either. Can someone advise what is the equivalent in FBSD8.1? Much appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 03:18:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B7A106564A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC828FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E760926D5EE1; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:24:59 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rb43cofY-7El; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9688926D5EE0; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:17:33 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4FB2F52D-6975-44FE-A381-A3E64A9989C0@d3photography.com> References: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> <6C8514A2-8346-451F-A127-E90627FBD338@d3photography.com> To: Robert Simmons X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Cc: Grant Walter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Distributions" are missing from home burnt CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:18:26 -0000 Is portsnap installed? I was going with the effed up installer route. :) This works - I tried it when I wrote up the directions. On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Ryan Coleman = wrote: >> Distributions, by nature, shouldn't be on the disc... they are = outdated the moment they are made into an ISO. >>=20 >> run these commands: >>=20 >> These are written assuming you are in as root. >>=20 >> # ftp ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz >> This is a 50MB file. It will take some time. I have found = ftp3.freebsd.org to be the fastest server in the US. >> # mkdir /usr/ports >> # chown root:wheel /usr/ports >> # tar -xzf ./ports.tar.gz -C /usr/ports/ >>=20 >> Capital C is required there... it will shift you to the folder you = need. >> You can now build your programs as you need to. >> /usr/ports/shells/bash* >>=20 >> This is also the most current version of the ports since you are = getting it straight off the server. >=20 > Unless I'm missing something completely, portsnap makes sure that you > always have the latest ports, and it verifies the integrity of the > files that it transfers using a secure key. Your method has no such > check, so I would say you shouldn't do it that way or recommend that > method to others. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 03:22:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FB4106564A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DE88FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yic13 with SMTP id 13so4911432yic.13 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:22:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zjjfSFhxmKRtekhfSP76bDsPn8j60GkV+IUqg4D+xpY=; b=JWLZkuBVzLUO4Le65+XsDi5ljtSGJX3Oqlf7cWUOQvBJ+3xy79nS5JWJUG6LN3DzkZ Ey3INjDu+/g5jSjhDAOioO+UBoRy3ZYlLzL1PqXlnptOgif9pKn3vJhcQAhTSYULxOLl cu7mvFfLobNFaDX24gXwT86aSh5xFVsqqH2+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.190.6 with SMTP id s6mr734070anp.50.1312255339602; Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.174.17 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:22:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FB2F52D-6975-44FE-A381-A3E64A9989C0@d3photography.com> References: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> <6C8514A2-8346-451F-A127-E90627FBD338@d3photography.com> <4FB2F52D-6975-44FE-A381-A3E64A9989C0@d3photography.com> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 23:22:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: Ryan Coleman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Grant Walter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Distributions" are missing from home burnt CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:22:20 -0000 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Is portsnap installed? I was going with the effed up installer route. :) > > This works - I tried it when I wrote up the directions. I assume that if the machine boots into the OS, that base is installed and portsnap is in base. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 03:25:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F284C106564A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C27B8FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 03:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E3926D5EE1; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:31:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vQ9ZsKyff5Q4; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:31:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34D1526D5EE0; Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:31:09 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:24:30 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <83D140CA-E0B9-49A3-A927-B11D7AF803E8@gmail.com> <6C8514A2-8346-451F-A127-E90627FBD338@d3photography.com> <4FB2F52D-6975-44FE-A381-A3E64A9989C0@d3photography.com> To: Robert Simmons X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Cc: Grant Walter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Distributions" are missing from home burnt CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:25:09 -0000 Fair enough. On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Ryan Coleman = wrote: >> Is portsnap installed? I was going with the effed up installer route. = :) >>=20 >> This works - I tried it when I wrote up the directions. >=20 > I assume that if the machine boots into the OS, that base is installed > and portsnap is in base. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 08:38:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ABC106566C for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 08:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695C98FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 08:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxg33 with SMTP id 33so6640034vxg.13 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:38:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.80.197 with SMTP id u5mr1514717vck.10.1312274280292; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.25.7 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 01:38:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.180.236] In-Reply-To: <4e37af45.60AhLWRppeiOX3eM%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4E364E1C.7040800@rawbw.com> <4e37af45.60AhLWRppeiOX3eM%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:38:00 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: yuri@rawbw.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg at 100%CPU when browser is on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 08:38:01 -0000 On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:03 AM, wrote: > "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > >> ... when mplayer plays some (rare) video files. >> >> Xorg then stays at 100% CPU, and it is impossible to kill it, >> neither from the inside, nor from the outside (logged in via >> ssh) with SIGKILL. Only a reboot helps here. > > An unkillable process is almost certainly hung in a driver, and in > this case I would strongly suspect it is a video driver. =A0Can you > break to KDB (or get a dump) and get a ps listing and a traceback > of the hung process? =A0That may enable someone familiar with the > particular driver involved to debug it. Good hint! I'll try to get a dump next time X hangs with that driver. Meanwhile, I'll probably switch my main desktop to xf86-video-ati as Warren suggested. Thanks, -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 10:39:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC3B106566B for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ttsestt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B638FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so5064488gxk.13 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:39:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=lsg4wiCgwQTCaheo8aKV4LAqLRFmezFa7CwFi1l4dUk=; b=FtaHHjV8DHEPoC89GYdsCd+N1wNNHFtUh9LRGq1iFlO89bTq8Crmifvvc4b0DfAL2r q4pEPMWh8o72NMd5T/ySWg4/mrgjPNa92QJ/pul7huqaRow71MedZbQTRJQ9nY4Opv3a yAc6pO9GpFM/+qOQTLD5jtevNqPTTuQMqWay4= Received: by 10.91.160.6 with SMTP id m6mr3822198ago.199.1312279770330; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (zoe.desire.se [85.8.28.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j16sm2752101ank.23.2011.08.02.03.09.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:09:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Test Rat To: Yuri References: <4E364E1C.7040800@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 14:09:18 +0400 Message-ID: <86zkjsrupd.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Xorg at 100%CPU when browser is on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:39:55 -0000 Yuri writes: > I saw this with firefox, now I see the same with chrome. > > After a while when the browser is launched with ~10 tabs open, Xorg > begins to consume 100% CPU and all graphics apps get > sluggish. Quitting the browser brings situation back to normal. [...] Have you tried to reproduce with a more simple test case after looking at what sorts of requests firefox/chrome sends to Xserver via xscope/xmon? You can also trace what it's doing with pmcstat/dtrace. I don't see your issue, only rarely the one in ports/156889. 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Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([184.53.142.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm6326973pba.91.2011.08.01.22.09.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4e378692.8406440a.3d2f.ffffd825@mx.google.com> To: "=?utf-8?B?Um9iZXJ0IFNpbW1vbnM=?=" , "=?utf-8?B?UnlhbiBDb2xlbWFu?=" From: "=?utf-8?B?R3JhbnQgV2FsdGVy?=" Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:09:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:04:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Distributions" are missing from home burnt CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 05:39:42 -0000 bG9sLCB0aGF0IGl0cyBteSBwcm9ibGVtLiBCYXNlIGlzIG5vdCBpbnN0YWxsZWQhIFRoZSBwYXJ0 IG9mIHRoZSBpbnN0YWxsIHdoZXJlIHlvdSBub3JtYWxseSBpbnN0YWxsIGJhc2UgZG9lcyBub3Qg bGV0IG1lIGluc3RhbGwgaXQhIEl0cyBub3QgdGhlcmUhISBPbmx5IGEgYnVuY2ggb2YgZHV0Y2gg dHJhbnNsYXRpb25zIAoKT24gTW9uLCBBdWcgMSwgMjAxMSBhdCAxMToxNyBQTSwgUnlhbiBDb2xl bWFuIDxlZGl0b3JAZDNwaG90b2dyYXBoeS5jb20+IHdyb3RlOiA+IElzIHBvcnRzbmFwIGluc3Rh bGxlZD8gSSB3YXMgZ29pbmcgd2l0aCB0aGUgZWZmZWQgdXAgaW5zdGFsbGVyIHJvdXRlLiA6KSA+ ID4gVGhpcyB3b3JrcyAtSSB0cmllZCBpdCB3aGVuIEkgd3JvdGUgdXAgdGhlIGRpcmVjdGlvbnMu IEkgYXNzdW1lIHRoYXQgaWYgdGhlIG1hY2hpbmUgYm9vdHMgaW50byB0aGUgT1MsIHRoYXQgYmFz ZSBpcyBpbnN0YWxsZWQgYW5kIHBvcnRzbmFwIGlzIGluIGJhc2UnCgotLS0tLSBSZXBseSBtZXNz YWdlIC0tLS0tCkZyb206ICJSb2JlcnQgU2ltbW9ucyIgPHJzaW1tb25zMEBnbWFpbC5jb20+ClRv OiAiUnlhbiBDb2xlbWFuIiA8ZWRpdG9yQGQzcGhvdG9ncmFwaHkuY29tPgpDYzogIkdyYW50IFdh bHRlciIgPGdyYW50d2FsdGVyMkBnbWFpbC5jb20+LCA8ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJz ZC5vcmc+ClN1YmplY3Q6ICJEaXN0cmlidXRpb25zIiBhcmUgbWlzc2luZyBmcm9tIGhvbWUgYnVy bnQgQ0QKRGF0ZTogTW9uLCBBdWcgMSwgMjAxMSA4OjIyIHBtCgoKT24gTW9uLCBBdWcgMSwgMjAx MSBhdCAxMToxNyBQTSwgUnlhbiBDb2xlbWFuIDxlZGl0b3JAZDNwaG90b2dyYXBoeS5jb20+IHdy b3RlOgo+IElzIHBvcnRzbmFwIGluc3RhbGxlZD8gSSB3YXMgZ29pbmcgd2l0aCB0aGUgZWZmZWQg dXAgaW5zdGFsbGVyIHJvdXRlLiA6KQo+Cj4gVGhpcyB3b3JrcyAtIEkgdHJpZWQgaXQgd2hlbiBJ IHdyb3RlIHVwIHRoZSBkaXJlY3Rpb25zLgoKSSBhc3N1bWUgdGhhdCBpZiB0aGUgbWFjaGluZSBi b290cyBpbnRvIHRoZSBPUywgdGhhdCBiYXNlIGlzIGluc3RhbGxlZAphbmQgcG9ydHNuYXAgaXMg aW4gYmFzZS4K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 14:13:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A281065672 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 14:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@kar.user-mode.org) Received: from nyx.user-mode.org (kar.user-mode.org [81.169.165.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82A78FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 14:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kar.user-mode.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kar.user-mode.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD012242CF98; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:57:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:57:29 +0200 From: Christian Barthel To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20110802135728.GA1685@kar.user-mode.org> References: <20110726134201.GA46249@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110726134201.GA46249@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-PGP-Key: "http://bc.user-mode.org/barthelc.asc" X-OS: GNU/Linux User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: do I have to acknowledge use of FreeBSD's *.css in my pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 14:13:00 -0000 Maybe, you can find further information from one of these people: * Nik Clayton * Jun Kuriyama * Simon L. Nielsen * Jesus Rodriguez * Wolfram Schneider The webmaster team is reachable under webmaster@freebsd.org (maybe, it's better to contact this address instead of a person directly) Source: http://www.freebsd.org/administration.html#t-webmaster On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:42:01PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I should probably know this, but I don't. > > Do I have to acknowledge FreeBSD if I use > FreeBSD's *.css for my pages? > > e.g. http://seis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/4p/ > > Thanks > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Christian Barthel Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc Mail: bc@kar.user-mode.org Web: http://bc.user-mode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 17:01:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBCF106564A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xoreax63@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CE18FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so4802598ewy.13 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:01:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8bMo/JNdG74j1SzzVoCmH/duYq/wz4mgPATHTX0zU+g=; b=r153mo5g12O8pv3Z4d16otutPZKmFOJtW1RZsoBCtY8skZCSceRzqtaN4ATVT64MSX YpihdF2rZkXMJACuou4IcV2Z1xSaXsPdH87iKe1R9Jv56+kINWnFSQ1yZFfpz4sbILjo DD4Yb7PHLzFJKNXM5Am8ixby+al5JCQ/KoW6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.143.10 with SMTP id s10mr1834101bku.108.1312302972439; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.197 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 09:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:36:12 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJV4lcyVtITwlLyVqJTklSCVVJSEbKEI=?= To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:11:04 +0000 Cc: Subject: password hash weaknesses in FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:01:50 -0000 The crypt program to hash passwords uses md5 /DES/blowfish for password hashing as I have read in the handbook. DES and md5 are widely regarded to be broken (certainly DES). I would prefer password hashing to be done using salted SHA1 / SHA256 to meet my security needs. Is this configuration possible? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 17:24:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E6C106564A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376F28FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19968 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2011 17:24:47 -0000 Received: from 24-113-112-30.wavecable.com (HELO [192.168.2.2]) (tomdean@[24.113.112.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Aug 2011 17:24:47 -0000 From: "Thomas D. Dean" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Home Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:24:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1312305887.2229.104.camel@asus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: password hash weaknesses in FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tomdean@speakeasy.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:24:48 -0000 On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 17:36 +0100, マンロークリストファ wrote: > The crypt program to hash passwords uses md5 /DES/blowfish for > password hashing as I have read in the handbook. DES and md5 are > widely regarded to be broken (certainly DES). I would prefer password > hashing to be done using salted SHA1 / SHA256 to meet my security > needs. Is this configuration possible? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/security/harden.php google "freebsd password hash sha256" http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=freebsd+password+hash +sha256&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= Has patches toward adding this. tomdean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 22:57:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B224106564A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 22:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1082C8FC15 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 22:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so339828iyb.13 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 15:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tdfGkG9W8i68bV82KDBU5qmB/qBC50Q2LgpanWlbkoU=; b=WEw1fY0G7y6R2qgiYbAVALwTpahIfBA/H7S4piWgznoNZwm1YbwXd7zaILLyww/H3Y tbGmL6PYaIQJp2OytrtlZwlTNEDI22iYwPEAaTLto3SxJ4DULIOXh9Q8YZ9nmRCXbIQz TaJlz9c5qRSXMiTVJtI2/bMF8KYOgGsnMECnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.146.131 with SMTP id j3mr4494644icv.494.1312325828210; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 15:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.108.6 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:57:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715235610.GA70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110718091913.GA4092@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:57:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:57:09 -0000 >> http://tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/lshort-5.01.src.tar.gz >> >> ran gmake and I see the errors. >> > > One error is that in src/ folder, the file lshort-letter.tex does not > exist :(, if we cd to that folder and copy the lshort-a5.tex > lshort-letter.tex then it will build provided most of the other > files(sty) are found and no error occurs. =A0That is one solution, the > other could be editing the Makefile (to not build the > lshort-letter.pdf). =A0This lshort was able to build with the fix but on > TeXLive not yet with teTeX :(, will see which files I need first then > get back to compiling it fully and hopefully I can succeed as well. > I am finding out that your suggestion (update TDS ) works better than adding the *.sty files in the working directory. The lshort-5.01 source depends on many newer packages one of which I have found is : http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/oberdiek Also the lshort-letter.tex is missing in src/ directory and I have found http://ctan.binkerton.com/ctan.readme.php?filename=3Dinfo/lshort/spanish/fu= ente/src/lshort-letter.tex selected it and copied over to src/ directory. I am making progress, but not there yet. It is interesting how many things change and *it* is hard & difficult task to keep up with the changes. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 23:33:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BCA1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 23:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepi102.cox.net (eastrmfepi102.cox.net [68.230.241.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1F18FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 23:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110802230606.XGTR32702.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:06:06 -0400 Received: from serene ([98.164.77.61]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Fb661h0031KMa2A02b66hT; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:06:06 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4E3882DE.0071,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=VVfSoB9EhnV18W7Ttu+1ezfIXSJ0l7myRtJlh1i+5TE= c=1 sm=1 a=VGxxxfPArtUA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=+z5gOwi1mWmWLWYHm+9pGA==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=fZfHpifQ993yG0kBt1YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+z5gOwi1mWmWLWYHm+9pGA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 18:06:06 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20110802180606.4599d800@serene> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.18.3; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:33:02 -0000 I burned a copy of FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso to CD. It booted and ran OK, but I encountered some rather odd behavior in a few places: As another user mentioned elsewhere, the packages distributions are beyond minimal, consisting only of some basic documentation in a variety of locales or languages. No software packages at all. Worse still, though, is what I ran across in the partitioning/labeling/boot record section of sysinstall; no more "dangerously dedicated" mode (unless you go into "expert" mode, which is rather a mystery to me), and worse yet, it seems that the options to install a plain master boot record or boot manager have no effect whatsoever! This is causing me no end of grief, as I'm trying to return this machine back to FreeBSD after having run Linux on it for some time. The only reason I initially installed Linux was that, at the time I bought the machine, neither my hard drive nor my CD drive were being recognized by FreeBSD (this has been fixed since then, I'm happy to report). The really crucial problem I'm facing right now is that I can't get Linux's damned "grub" off of my hard drive! I was hoping that using "dangerously dedicated" mode in sysinstall would allow me to overwrite the lingering copy of grub on my hard drive that I just can't seem to get rid of. The FreeBSD install works for the most part, despite the few oddities mentioned above, but when I try to boot into it afterwards, grub seizes control and hangs with an error code. I've tried numerous workarounds, using boot0cfg and both FreeBSD's and Linux's fdisk and friends, but to no avail. I'm stymied at this point, and desperately in need of some advice here. Can some sage person out there help me out of this predicament? Right now I feel like I'm doomed to keep running Linux or nothing at all! I am dying to get back to FreeBSD again. HELP!!! :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 23:57:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE7E1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 23:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE36D8FC21 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 23:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-103-124.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.103.124]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A94D3CD6A; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:57:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p72NvnDK003099; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:57:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:57:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Message-Id: <20110803015749.70218347.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110802180606.4599d800@serene> References: <20110802180606.4599d800@serene> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:57:53 -0000 On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 18:06:06 -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > As another user mentioned elsewhere, the packages distributions are > beyond minimal, consisting only of some basic documentation in a > variety of locales or languages. No software packages at all. Since the documentation has been moved out of the regular system installation and turned into packages, this is now the normal behaviour. For adding packages, it's easy when you've booted your new system for the first time and got networking up and running. Then simply use "pkg_add -r " to add things. Decide if (and how) to use ports - they are often more convenient for maintaining the installed software. > Worse still, though, is what I ran across in the > partitioning/labeling/boot record section of sysinstall; no more > "dangerously dedicated" mode (unless you go into "expert" mode, which > is rather a mystery to me), [...] This functionality has also been removed. To install a system in a dedicated layout, you'll have to use the "basic tools" (e. g. fdisk and newfs, or partitioner of your choice). > [...] and worse yet, it seems that the options to > install a plain master boot record or boot manager have no effect > whatsoever! Can you be more specific on this? > The really crucial problem I'm facing right now is that I can't get > Linux's damned "grub" off of my hard drive! This should be easy by dd'ing the beginning of the hard disk with /dev/zero's. Otherwise, overwriting with FreeBSD's standard booting mechanisms should be possible too. > I was hoping that using > "dangerously dedicated" mode in sysinstall would allow me to overwrite > the lingering copy of grub on my hard drive that I just can't seem to > get rid of. No. The dedicated layout "happens" in "further" parts of the hard disk, as far as I remember. Try to clean the relevant parts of the disk using the Fixit shell first. > The FreeBSD install works for the most part, despite the > few oddities mentioned above, but when I try to boot into it afterwards, > grub seizes control and hangs with an error code. This indicates that it is still present - in a nonfunctional state. > I've tried numerous workarounds, using boot0cfg and both FreeBSD's and > Linux's fdisk and friends, but to no avail. I'm stymied at this point, > and desperately in need of some advice here. The boot0cfg would have been my suggestion too. There is also "fdisk -BI ", if you want to use that. To stay with the "old-fashioned tools", the next step in a manual install would be "bsdlabel -w -B ", and then "bsdlabel -e " to add the partitions you want. Anyway, sysinstall should be able to do that for you. I have to admit that I'm still using this method for maximum compatibility, and I even tend to use sysinstall because I'm lazy. :-) In the slice editor, remove everything. Then add one FreeBSD slice for the whole disk. Add a standard MBR so booting gets you directly into FreeBSD. Then use the partition editor to add /, swap, /tmp, /var, /usr, /home and anything you like. > Can some sage person out there help me out of this predicament? Right > now I feel like I'm doomed to keep running Linux or nothing at all! I > am dying to get back to FreeBSD again. First try to use dd to clean the beginning of the hard disk. In _worst_ case, clean the whole disk. Then start sysinstall as usual (and as explained in the Handbook). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 02:03:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63B7106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 02:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9F28FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 02:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so341161wwe.31 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rt92hhfFd127i+GjIliKF5eYfEvMijzok8NXIfFXGdM=; b=Exi4jmwI74cidl8OxVLraaNYnwymakLdX8eF0bWKByXhXR0IuNoRZUGaqhbEuZIOKd UWshUm+H8TGYPttx8CTFJdCUt7wemrBC5UXbj1oNV/4VdHB5J6pN+q9lrMkAVxXtcD+t R7WKc4/SeX25SjnM7DMF48CiugvCsGfrYqSZA= Received: by 10.227.39.154 with SMTP id g26mr7970803wbe.37.1312337001507; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fx12sm283751wbb.8.2011.08.02.19.03.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 03:03:12 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110803030312.5db40695@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: password hash weaknesses in FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:03:22 -0000 On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:36:12 +0100 =E3=83=9E=E3=83=B3=E3=83=AD=E3=83=BC=E3=82=AF=E3=83=AA=E3=82=B9=E3=83=88=E3= =83=95=E3=82=A1 wrote: > The crypt program to hash passwords uses md5 /DES/blowfish for > password hashing as I have read in the handbook. DES and md5 are > widely regarded to be broken (certainly DES). I would prefer password > hashing to be done using salted SHA1 / SHA256 to meet my security > needs. It depends what you mean by broken; most hashes are broken (or will be broken) in some sense - including SHA1. The types of break that make md5 unsuitable for verification purposes don't apply to password hashes. Furthermore FreeBSDs md5 password hash isn't simply md5, it's 1000 iterations of md5 with each iteration hashing the salt, password and previous hash in shifting combinations. These days the most realistic attack against typical user passwords is probably a direct brute-force attack using GPUs - in which case the underlying hash algorithm is insignificant. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 02:59:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E35106566B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 02:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DABB8FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 02:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so302040gyf.13 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:59:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bxsA4J+qfZhJOizSvtZiMJ4e8s7MOU56o/vqVcbwiKc=; b=Gy2+l1iDuoA4Jt5IHjhMKkG+ZBPNF8/CbqBW1147YSAU0kJB9KggeUn1IkV3t5jzb7 PuSApssaynCO6c9UXFeWcq4oGQ545tNn4i6H8LF65kfF08EOVrmdPSeMa2LyZhG68Y8h I+aRFlIJ6J30Qy1SF9BUh9R+x4qsqvtoevJN0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.50.10 with SMTP id vc10mr4632793icb.293.1312340376956; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.108.6 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:59:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <537F9F81-1353-4FA3-B8EF-EF99682F435E@gmail.com> <20110714160816.GA30155@think.gnix.co.uk> <20110715080324.GA8392@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110715235610.GA70906@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110718091913.GA4092@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 21:59:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:59:39 -0000 @all I notice that some of the packages that *are* missing have different names, for instance pdfnup is available on FreeBSD ports -> /usr/ports/print/pdfjam/ psnup is available on FreeBSD ports -> /usr/ports/print/psutils-letter/ These are automagically installed if one installs TeXLive full scheme. Style files and updates are also updated but on texlive terms. One of the projects I was compiling asks for ifxetex package, it is in ports, I try to add it and it bombs out: tricorehome# cd ifxetex/ tricorehome# make install clean ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE => ifxetex.zip doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch ftp://ctan.unsw.edu.au/tex-archive/macros/generic//ifxetex.zip fetch: ftp://ctan.unsw.edu.au/tex-archive/macros/generic//ifxetex.zip: size mismatch: expected 60532, actual 166422 => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/macros/generic//ifxetex.zip fetch: ftp://ftp.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/macros/generic//ifxetex.zip: size mismatch: expected 60532, actual 166422 => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/CTAN/macros/generic//ifxetex.zip fetch: ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/CTAN/macros/generic//ifxetex.zip: size mismatch: expected 60532, actual 166422 => Attempting to fetch ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/generic//ifxetex.zip fetch: ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/generic//ifxetex.zip: size mismatch: expected 60532, actual 166422 CTRL+C in /usr/ports/print directory: tricorehome# ls -l | grep 'tex' drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 abc2mtex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 16:37 abntex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 auctex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 cpp2latex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 detex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 dot2tex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Aug 2 21:19 dvipsk-tetex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 easylatex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 guitartex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 html2latex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 hugelatex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 hyperlatex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 ifxetex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 jadetex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-aa drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-aastex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-acm drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-arydshln drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-auto-greek drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 21:44 latex-beamer drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-biblatex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-biblist drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-bytefield drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-caption drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 21:21 latex-chapterfolder drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-circ drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-cjk drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-csquotes drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-etoolbox drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-feynmf drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-keystroke drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-logpap drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-logreq drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-ltablex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-mathabx drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 16:37 latex-nomencl drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 21:41 latex-pgf drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-prettyref drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-resume drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-subfloat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-supertabular drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-svninfo drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-timing drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-tipa drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex-ucs drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latex2rtf drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 16:37 latex2slides drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latexdiff drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 latexmk drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 musixtex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 passivetex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 pstotext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 rtf2latex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 rtf2latex2e drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 sgf2tex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Aug 2 21:05 teTeX-texmf drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 tex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 21:24 tex-mfpic drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 tex-omegaware-old drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Aug 2 21:05 tex-texmflocal drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 texinfo drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 texpower drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 texvc drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 tgif2tex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 2 08:47 tr2latex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 xmbibtex drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 xmltex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 2 16:37 xtexsh drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 yatex drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 28 20:31 yatex-xemacs Some packages install good, others get mismatch* because there are newer packages :( Thanks for looking into this and sorry for being a pest. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 05:32:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4832910656D2 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 05:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1E98FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 05:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QoU3w-0003me-JY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:32:12 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:32:12 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:32:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:35:30 -0400 Lines: 65 Message-ID: References: <20110802180606.4599d800@serene> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:32:15 -0000 Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > I burned a copy of FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso to CD. It > booted and ran OK, but I encountered some rather odd behavior in a few > places: > > As another user mentioned elsewhere, the packages distributions are > beyond minimal, consisting only of some basic documentation in a > variety of locales or languages. No software packages at all. > > Worse still, though, is what I ran across in the > partitioning/labeling/boot record section of sysinstall; no more > "dangerously dedicated" mode (unless you go into "expert" mode, which > is rather a mystery to me), and worse yet, it seems that the options to > install a plain master boot record or boot manager have no effect > whatsoever! "Dangerously dedicated" is being deprecated in favor of more modern ways and methods to slice and partition. You should no longer seek to utilize it, and I think, if memory serves there was some talk at one time on removing it from fdisk and/or sysinstall. > This is causing me no end of grief, as I'm trying to return this > machine back to FreeBSD after having run Linux on it for some time. > The only reason I initially installed Linux was that, at the time I > bought the machine, neither my hard drive nor my CD drive were being > recognized by FreeBSD (this has been fixed since then, I'm happy to > report). > > The really crucial problem I'm facing right now is that I can't get > Linux's damned "grub" off of my hard drive! I was hoping that using > "dangerously dedicated" mode in sysinstall would allow me to overwrite > the lingering copy of grub on my hard drive that I just can't seem to > get rid of. The FreeBSD install works for the most part, despite the > few oddities mentioned above, but when I try to boot into it afterwards, > grub seizes control and hangs with an error code. > > I've tried numerous workarounds, using boot0cfg and both FreeBSD's and > Linux's fdisk and friends, but to no avail. I'm stymied at this point, > and desperately in need of some advice here. > > Can some sage person out there help me out of this predicament? Right > now I feel like I'm doomed to keep running Linux or nothing at all! I > am dying to get back to FreeBSD again. > Sounds like you need to zero the first part of your drive. The following is best done before installing, rather than afterwards. Either boot a LiveFS CD (which I have done before) or, I believe this is also possible from the Fixit shell (which I have not tried). In order to gain the ability to "force" writes to this area do this at a root prompt: sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 then to zero out the beginning of your disk do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 where x is the drive number. This should get the grub gone. Then install as normal. With the grub MBR out of the way you should now be able to install FreeBSD bootloader/MBR as you have in the past. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 07:01:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E740B106566C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 07:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916018FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 07:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110803070152.TVVR3919.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net>; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 03:01:52 -0400 Received: from serene ([98.164.77.61]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Fj1s1h0021KMa2A02j1s9D; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:01:52 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4E38F260.008C,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=VVfSoB9EhnV18W7Ttu+1ezfIXSJ0l7myRtJlh1i+5TE= c=1 sm=1 a=KS9RXunQXfMA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=+z5gOwi1mWmWLWYHm+9pGA==:17 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=_2cI9RyXvO6_V-DsCLkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=nB67imMwa6kLN41J:21 a=Um4bmHC2btjAx1hV:21 a=+z5gOwi1mWmWLWYHm+9pGA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 02:01:51 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110803020151.44ac6ada@serene> In-Reply-To: References: <20110802180606.4599d800@serene> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.18.3; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:01:59 -0000 On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:35:30 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: >Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: ... >> Worse still, though, is what I ran across in the >> partitioning/labeling/boot record section of sysinstall; no more >> "dangerously dedicated" mode (unless you go into "expert" mode, which >> is rather a mystery to me), and worse yet, it seems that the options >> to install a plain master boot record or boot manager have no effect >> whatsoever! > >"Dangerously dedicated" is being deprecated in favor of more modern >ways and methods to slice and partition. You should no longer seek to >utilize it, and I think, if memory serves there was some talk at one >time on removing it from fdisk and/or sysinstall. Well, in 8.2, it *has* been removed essentially. The only way to try to effect a DD partitioning is to go into the mysterious and error-prone "expert" mode, as it's no longer provided as an option in the partitioning menu. ... >> The really crucial problem I'm facing right now is that I can't get >> Linux's damned "grub" off of my hard drive! ... >Sounds like you need to zero the first part of your drive. The >following is best done before installing, rather than afterwards. >Either boot a LiveFS CD (which I have done before) or, I believe this >is also possible from the Fixit shell (which I have not tried). In >order to gain the ability to "force" writes to this area do this at a >root prompt: > >sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > >then to zero out the beginning of your disk do: > >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > >where x is the drive number. This should get the grub gone. Then >install as normal. With the grub MBR out of the way you should now be >able to install FreeBSD bootloader/MBR as you have in the past. I have already tried using dd to zero out the beginning of the drive, just the MBR sector at first, then later even up to a full gigabyte, but grub is still there. I didn't, however, set that sysctl first. Is that why dd didn't work? I'm not familiar with that particular setting. I still don't understand, though, why sysinstall's option to install the MBR didn't do the trick. Neither the boot manager nor the plain-vanilla MBR installation seemed to have any effect at all. Weird. Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'll keep trying. I am determined to get back to my beloved FreeBSD, which I had been using since 1996, until this unfortunate situation occurred with my newly acquired machine's (not so new anymore) hard drive and CD-ROM not being recognized during attempts to install. Will post back later on the results. I just hate to have to keep trashing and then reinstalling Linux, just to get back online so I can get more information about this seriously annoying problem. :-) Stay tuned! :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 07:06:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587AA1065670 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 07:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016EE8FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 07:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110803070652.WAAK3924.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 03:06:52 -0400 Received: from serene ([98.164.77.61]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Fj6r1h00B1KMa2A02j6rgZ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:06:52 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4E38F38C.001C,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=VVfSoB9EhnV18W7Ttu+1ezfIXSJ0l7myRtJlh1i+5TE= c=1 sm=1 a=TBqH7zpkoiQA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=+z5gOwi1mWmWLWYHm+9pGA==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=2pFQgl9jSOgKdx-3QTEA:9 a=FWI0nAaXnPtDQGVCtkAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jKRid43F7UoA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+z5gOwi1mWmWLWYHm+9pGA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 02:06:51 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20110803020651.41a146a5@serene> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.18.3; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Fw: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:06:58 -0000 Begin forwarded message (earlier I replied to the poster, but thought I'd share this with the list): On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:57:49 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 18:06:06 -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: >> As another user mentioned elsewhere, the packages distributions are >> beyond minimal, consisting only of some basic documentation in a >> variety of locales or languages. No software packages at all. > >Since the documentation has been moved out of the regular >system installation and turned into packages, this is now >the normal behaviour. Yes, I've been away from FreeBSD for quite a while now, not just because of the hardware recognition problems I was having when I first bought this machine, but also due to a whole slew of other complications that arose in my personal life, some of which resulted in my being physically separated from my computer for a very long time (it's a long story). :-) Interesting to see the changes that have taken place in the meantime. I've certainly got some catching up to do here. :-) >For adding packages, it's easy when you've booted your >new system for the first time and got networking up and >running. Then simply use "pkg_add -r " to add >things. Decide if (and how) to use ports - they are often >more convenient for maintaining the installed software. I much prefer to use ports, myself. I just like to install cvsup from packages on a new install, to get the ball rolling, as they say. I was very surprised to see so few packages available in sysinstall, I must say! >> Worse still, though, is what I ran across in the >> partitioning/labeling/boot record section of sysinstall; no more >> "dangerously dedicated" mode (unless you go into "expert" mode, which >> is rather a mystery to me), [...] > >This functionality has also been removed. To install a >system in a dedicated layout, you'll have to use the >"basic tools" (e. g. fdisk and newfs, or partitioner >of your choice). That's a pity. I always liked using "DD" mode. Why use a boot manager or even a plain-vanilla MBR if you don't really need one, right? >> [...] and worse yet, it seems that the options to >> install a plain master boot record or boot manager have no effect >> whatsoever! > >Can you be more specific on this? I ran the install CD a bunch of times, and have tried both installing FreeBSD's boot manager as well as installing an ordinary master boot record. I thought that would be all it would take to override grub, but not so! >> The really crucial problem I'm facing right now is that I can't get >> Linux's damned "grub" off of my hard drive! > >This should be easy by dd'ing the beginning of the hard disk >with /dev/zero's. Otherwise, overwriting with FreeBSD's standard >booting mechanisms should be possible too. I've tried just about everything I can think of, and still that nasty, grubby (pun intended) little sucker is still there when I reboot. It's downright infuriating! >> I was hoping that using >> "dangerously dedicated" mode in sysinstall would allow me to >> overwrite the lingering copy of grub on my hard drive that I just >> can't seem to get rid of. > >No. The dedicated layout "happens" in "further" parts of >the hard disk, as far as I remember. Try to clean the >relevant parts of the disk using the Fixit shell first. Yes, I've been shelling out and shelling out from sysinstall, but still not getting the results I want. It's almost as if my hard drive has turned into a "grub magnet" and it just won't come off! :-) >> The FreeBSD install works for the most part, despite the >> few oddities mentioned above, but when I try to boot into it >> afterwards, grub seizes control and hangs with an error code. > >This indicates that it is still present - in a nonfunctional >state. Exactly. I haven't looked up the error codes (either 15 or 17, depending on what I was trying just before the reboot), but that's as far as it gets, outputting the code and then just sitting there. I suspect the codes are related to grub not finding the menu.lst file it expects to find buried down in a subdirectory of /etc (God, I hate Linux!). :-) >> I've tried numerous workarounds, using boot0cfg and both FreeBSD's >> and Linux's fdisk and friends, but to no avail. I'm stymied at this >> point, and desperately in need of some advice here. > >The boot0cfg would have been my suggestion too. There is >also "fdisk -BI ", if you want to use that. To >stay with the "old-fashioned tools", the next step in a >manual install would be "bsdlabel -w -B ", and >then "bsdlabel -e " to add the partitions you want. > >Anyway, sysinstall should be able to do that for you. >I have to admit that I'm still using this method for >maximum compatibility, and I even tend to use sysinstall >because I'm lazy. :-) Same here. In the past, I've often fallen back to using sysinstall for those sorts of admin chores. Much easier than dealing with a bunch of arcane command-line options and such. >In the slice editor, remove everything. Then add one >FreeBSD slice for the whole disk. Add a standard MBR >so booting gets you directly into FreeBSD. Then use >the partition editor to add /, swap, /tmp, /var, /usr, >/home and anything you like. I've got to say, this whole experience really took me by surprise. I've been using FreeBSD since 1996, and could breeze through an install procedure in my sleep. Never expected these sorts of complications to arise. >> Can some sage person out there help me out of this predicament? >> Right now I feel like I'm doomed to keep running Linux or nothing at >> all! I am dying to get back to FreeBSD again. > >First try to use dd to clean the beginning of the hard >disk. In _worst_ case, clean the whole disk. Then start >sysinstall as usual (and as explained in the Handbook). I ran dd and zeroed out the entire first gigabyte of space on the drive, yet grub was still there! I couldn't believe it. I'm on the verge now of just zeroing out the entire drive. Hate to have to resort to such a ridiculously extreme method, but at this point, there seems to be little else left to try. The unfortunate thing is that, after all these repeated failures, I then have to go back and reinstall Ubuntu Linux to get back online, post questions, do further investigation, etc. Very time-consuming. By the way, I'm just wondering, how long have you been using FreeBSD, and do you like the way it's been evolving since you started? I was madly in love with FreeBSD (and still am, if I could just get it running again) before I bought this machine and had to abandon it because it wouldn't properly detect either my CD-ROM or my hard drive. You can imagine what a disappointment *that* was! Thanks for replying to my post. I do appreciate it very much. I'll let you know if I ever do manage to get anywhere with this problem. Later! -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 07:35:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570A4106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 07:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058728FC15 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 07:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-103-124.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.103.124]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857143C976; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:35:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p737ZZfu005923; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:35:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:35:34 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Message-Id: <20110803093534.13998932.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110803020651.41a146a5@serene> References: <20110803020651.41a146a5@serene> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:35:38 -0000 On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 02:06:51 -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > Interesting to see the changes that have taken place in the meantime. > I've certainly got some catching up to do here. :-) You learn something new every day using FreeBSD. :-) > I much prefer to use ports, myself. I just like to install cvsup from > packages on a new install, to get the ball rolling, as they say. I was > very surprised to see so few packages available in sysinstall, I must > say! No need to install cvsup or cvsup-without-gui. The csup utility is part of the base system and has the same functionality. It can be used to do "make update" for the ports collection and the src/ subtree. > I always liked using "DD" mode. Why use a boot manager > or even a plain-vanilla MBR if you don't really need one, right? As far as I know, you can still use it, but sysinstall won't support it. The dedicated mode is still useful when you need to keep fdisk-partitioned disks (e. g. for compatibility issues), but don't have need for a separate slice as FreeBSD doesn't essentially need it, and if you don't want to access FreeBSD's partitions from a different OS that can't handle the dedicated layout - it should be fine. For maximum compatibility, it's still often suggested to use the fdisk + bsdlabel + newfs approach, if you need it "old-fashioned". :-) Of course, GPT is the current modern way to go. > I ran the install CD a bunch of times, and have tried both installing > FreeBSD's boot manager as well as installing an ordinary master boot > record. I thought that would be all it would take to override grub, > but not so! It _should_. > I've tried just about everything I can think of, and still that nasty, > grubby (pun intended) little sucker is still there when I reboot. It's > downright infuriating! Try with sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 set, it should make sure the writes are "direct", and there's nothing "preserving" data of previous installations. Partitioners other than fdisk may store data in other regions of the hard disk, e. g. some meta-data at the "end", or "bottom" of the disk? :-) > Yes, I've been shelling out and shelling out from sysinstall, but still > not getting the results I want. It's almost as if my hard drive has > turned into a "grub magnet" and it just won't come off! :-) A powerful contra-magnet should fix it. :-) > Exactly. I haven't looked up the error codes (either 15 or 17, > depending on what I was trying just before the reboot), but that's as > far as it gets, outputting the code and then just sitting there. I > suspect the codes are related to grub not finding the menu.lst file it > expects to find buried down in a subdirectory of /etc (God, I hate > Linux!). :-) Those codes may also be generated by the BIOS. For example, my system outputs two-digit codes in the lower right corner of the screen during boot to signal some states I don't know in detail. Such a state could be "cannot boot, didn't find anything" when transfering control from BIOS to 1st stage of booting (traditionally MBR) fails. Some systems show an "please insert diskette and press Enter" message, others keep rebooting, and some just show a mysterious number. > I've got to say, this whole experience really took me by surprise. > I've been using FreeBSD since 1996, and could breeze through an install > procedure in my sleep. Never expected these sorts of complications to > arise. Even if the basic dialogs you're visiting are nearly the same since 4.0 (the time when I started using FreeBSD regularly). Today, I mostly do installs per command line, and often scripted, so sysinstall isn't an "everyday tool" to me. Still I can remember how to blaze through its screens to get a basic system installed. Maybe that's causing the typical sysinstall-related lazyness. :-) > I ran dd and zeroed out the entire first gigabyte of space on the > drive, yet grub was still there! I couldn't believe it. Then it seems that there is either a error during write (e. g. a protection mechanism that reports "write done, all successful", but in fact does not perform the actual write operation to the MBR), or parts of GRUB are located in "later" parts of the disk. Or, if both does not apply, it's a BIOS supplied status code. > I'm on the > verge now of just zeroing out the entire drive. Hate to have to resort > to such a ridiculously extreme method, but at this point, there seems > to be little else left to try. The unfortunate thing is that, after > all these repeated failures, I then have to go back and reinstall Ubuntu > Linux to get back online, post questions, do further investigation, etc. > Very time-consuming. Dual-booting (or secondary system) would be good in this case. But dual-booting can also lead to strange observations (as you described). > By the way, I'm just wondering, how long have you been using FreeBSD, > and do you like the way it's been evolving since you started? I'm using it since version 4.0 both for servers and for my home desktop (exclusively). Other systems I use are OpenBSD and Solaris. From time to time, I try some Linux, see that it's not my cup of tea, and move on. :-) The development of OS and the constantly good quality impress me at every release. On the same system, the OS boots faster each time it gets updated. Sadly, the installed applications do a "good" job of "compensation", so keeping the same hardware, things tend to run slower. But that is not FreeBSD's fault. Many comfortable tools are now part of the base system, like a CVS program, a binary system updater, or a program to fetch up-to-date ports/ subtrees. This makes building systems "from scratch" more easy. So for the OS, I have no complains, except the one that it doesn't identify my Sun USB keyboard properly since after version 5 (6 not tested, 7 missing identification string, but it WORKS without problems). For the removal of the dedicated mode from sysinstall: It seems that this mode is hardly used, and other operating systems may feel threatened by not being able to play with a dedicated disk (that's why the misleading prefix "dangerously"?), so using this approach has been moved to the "very professional" area of the installer, which is the pure command line. But as sysinstall is going to be deprecated anyway in favour of a new installer that also will surely provide GPT and ZFS installation dialogs, MAYBE the dedicated mode comes back as a valid choice because - what's wrong about using it? (NB those are just _my_ very individual impressions, but I hope it's okay to share them on-list.) > I was > madly in love with FreeBSD (and still am, if I could just get it > running again) before I bought this machine and had to abandon it > because it wouldn't properly detect either my CD-ROM or my hard drive. > You can imagine what a disappointment *that* was! I can - disk and optical drives are considered basics. I know it would be too much to require the system to properly detect any proprietary and broken-by-design piece of cheap commodity hardware from the home consumer crap sector. :-) > Thanks for replying to my post. I do appreciate it very much. I'll > let you know if I ever do manage to get anywhere with this problem. Try the sysctl and then dd. Wipe the MBR first, and to be sure, add some MB of /dev/zero's. In worst case, consult your mainboard's documentation to make sure the numbers are _not_ BIOS status "messages". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 10:10:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267C31065674 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6768FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p73AAT8R083977 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:10:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p73AAT8R083977 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1312366230; bh=mtRWf8MORiXO5HiP0lJ6tdICo6fvg97nJJEcsALRLFk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E391E8F.4090308@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2003=20Aug=202011=2011:10:23=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/201 10624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Polytropon=20|CC:=20"Conrad=20J.=20Sabatier"=20 ,=20=0D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=208.2-RE LEASE-amd64.iso=20weirdness=20(help!)|References:=20<2011080218060 6.4599d800@serene>=20<20110803015749.70218347.freebsd@edvax.de>|In -Reply-To:=20<20110803015749.70218347.freebsd@edvax.de>|X-Enigmail -Version:=201.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart /signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/ pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigD549DEEBD15D 2BCFAF7CB977"; b=JvK3C6dH+qvndJdFqxYrK2gKcxNBnQ6TosSPAh6ArzgRCAbdsUgsdCUJqpOE8s7w1 MAmwXKMRfDLnw1qiWp/8gP5Bz4+TZrv0GLUqZVXoEhNT480tW59pZTiu3kKxipvcEp uIWPCDBTAN5Fg1TXBQ3UNscYA6en9yrQhe8pisdU= Message-ID: <4E391E8F.4090308@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:10:23 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20110802180606.4599d800@serene> <20110803015749.70218347.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110803015749.70218347.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD549DEEBD15D2BCFAF7CB977" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 10:10:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD549DEEBD15D2BCFAF7CB977 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2011 00:57, Polytropon wrote: >> > The really crucial problem I'm facing right now is that I can't get >> > Linux's damned "grub" off of my hard drive! =20 > This should be easy by dd'ing the beginning of the hard disk > with /dev/zero's. Otherwise, overwriting with FreeBSD's standard > booting mechanisms should be possible too. If you want an easy way to blank a system, try dban (Darik's Boot and Nuke) -- it's a bootable CD which can overwrite disks multiple times and ultimately zero them out. For your purposes, you don't need the high-security wiping -- just choose the menu option to simply zero the disk. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD549DEEBD15D2BCFAF7CB977 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk45HpUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxRlwCeJcDX3zSKLRqIYJBXv7uc3O0D gIoAn0aenLwKhrj7jU0nTAcjQZU04iml =7ebs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD549DEEBD15D2BCFAF7CB977-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 10:29:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D1B106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1893f65f3=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz2.oekb.co.at (mgaterz2.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCD28FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchh2.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.21]) by mgaterz2.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 03 Aug 2011 12:00:15 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by exchh2.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.61) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:00:15 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p73A0FFu027311; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:00:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p73A0Fnl027310; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:00:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:00:15 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Message-ID: <20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: portupgrades fail because of missing /usr/local/lib/liblzma.la X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 10:29:59 -0000 Hi, On my 8.2-System (amd64, kernel & system updated two days ago) I run into a nasty problem updating my ports: Ports that depend on "liblzma" fail to build with the following error: "/usr/local/lib/liblzma.la: No such file or directory" AFAIK, the xz-libraries are not part of the base system; there is indeed a /usr/lib/liblzma*, but why doesn't the build process for the ports recognize it and insists on having the libraries in /usr/local/lib? When installing the xz-libraries from the ports, i.e. pkg_add -r -f xz and portupgrade -o archivers/xz lzmautils\* upgrading my ports works, but this truly can't be the correct solution, esp. since building xz out of the ports tree ins't supported: # pwd /usr/ports/archivers/xz # make ===> xz-5.0.3 is already in the base system. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/xz. # So here are my questions? o) Why doesn't the build process of ports recognize the xz-libraries in /usr/lib? (BTW, not even "make deinstall && make clean && make install" helps) o) What can I do to get ports recognize the correct location of the xz-libraries? Thanks much in advance for any clue, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 10:58:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE811065674 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A48D8FC1E for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:58:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:58:13 +0200 Message-ID: <4E3929C5.8010500@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:58:13 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110627 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20110803020651.41a146a5@serene> In-Reply-To: <20110803020651.41a146a5@serene> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Fw: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 10:58:16 -0000 On 08/03/2011 09=3A06 AM=2C Conrad J=2E Sabatier wrote=3A =3E I ran dd and zeroed out the entire first gigabyte of space on the =3E drive=2C yet grub was still there! I couldn=27t believe it=2E I=27m o= n the =3E verge now of just zeroing out the entire drive=2E Hate to have to reso= rt =3E to such a ridiculously extreme method=2C but at this point=2C there see= ms =3E to be little else left to try=2E The unfortunate thing is that=2C afte= r =3E all these repeated failures=2C I then have to go back and reinstall Ubu= ntu =3E Linux to get back online=2C post questions=2C do further investigation= =2C etc=2E =3E Very time-consuming=2E You can just run a live cd or usb to get online This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Access=2C disclosu= re=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 11:03:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD794106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9328FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p73B3XBO022692; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:03:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4E392B05.2090603@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:03:33 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110508 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" References: <20110802180606.4599d800@serene> In-Reply-To: <20110802180606.4599d800@serene> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:03:41 -0000 2011-08-03 01:06, Conrad J. Sabatier skrev: > The really crucial problem I'm facing right now is that I can't get > Linux's damned "grub" off of my hard drive! This might help, but I'm not sure. http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2005-07/1509.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 11:54:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE16106566C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587758FC1B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p73BsVBB085309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:54:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p73BsVBB085309 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1312372471; bh=GAyvZnGEKP0r0H1rasPmncuon3lsjN0nUGdLJfMDPP4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E3936EA.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2003=20Aug=202011=2012:54:18=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/201 10624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ewald=20Jenisch= 20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re :=20portupgrades=20fail=20because=20of=20missing=20/usr/local/lib/ liblzma.la|References:=20<20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at >|In-Reply-To:=20<20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at>|X-Enig mail-Version:=201.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multi part/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicat ion/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig16D1767A FE76E211BD490C6A"; b=x5lbw0CcpDx9BayQ0rHcufUMsD+XvXepL1J29wqyGF63U0M80mX184jmPQvVmgSId Rmqi2wVSE9Q9DDfHL2m+nurimp1D+eVfiSx3bjDmSwprEY31SK7jnLCnfzXI0axCcI C4Wp7zdqiYiSXdDarJV6Bb7/6AjD7/sew3XFPCTA= Message-ID: <4E3936EA.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:54:18 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig16D1767AFE76E211BD490C6A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrades fail because of missing /usr/local/lib/liblzma.la X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:54:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig16D1767AFE76E211BD490C6A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2011 11:00, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > So here are my questions? >=20 > o) Why doesn't the build process of ports recognize the xz-libraries > in /usr/lib? (BTW, not even "make deinstall && make clean && make > install" helps) xz(1) and the associated libraries are now part of the base system in stable/8 and above. Actually it (the ports build process) does. However, if you have a version of liblzma.so installed from ports, autoconf will find that and assume that's your preferred version to link against. > o) What can I do to get ports recognize the correct location of the > xz-libraries? You should first get a list of all your installed ports that depend on archivers/xz (pkg_info -Rx xz), then force delete the archivers/xz port and then rebuild all the ports that linked against it. Note that portupgrade(8) defaults to keeping a copy of the old liblzma.so shlib in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg, and portmaster(8) will do similarly if given the '-w' option: this will allow un-rebuilt ports to continue working during your upgrade, but shouldn't confuse the ports build process. Remember to delete the old shlib once you're done rebuilding. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig16D1767AFE76E211BD490C6A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk45NvYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIweEQCfZOh8qqOMoZ+H4DMhGCuvcg0N YpsAn0BWS60yJomrW+elR4zGubUxYX9g =Cf5L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig16D1767AFE76E211BD490C6A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 13:19:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A365F106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward15.mail.yandex.net (forward15.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA118FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward15.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5C5E29E35BA for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:19:49 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1312377589; bh=alvnzcOkMWhcW9MjUB04jKzMz4qIRPkg7xPH0R1oc7M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Cf8cCeYP0s87wpvdQLFgEv7KibQYoXJFY/i+08ELqFhAcqUxKhPtwPctCLsEKgn5L aCJzr7srK00X7TcYN4pCiyLGngEClU+G2eL/ds3f/HitX824gETJ6PYhvLAgZpI7ta cgTAlDmxoHhwGLlz+tm16RVEUgSZF2iWumwricwo= Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4A6EF1B602DB for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:19:49 +0400 (MSD) Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id JmNaSxka; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:19:49 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:19:48 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <959573537.20110803161948@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: freebsd ARP problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:19:51 -0000 Hi, all. I delete IP address from one server and add it to this one. But connection is not up, because of remote server (77.93.52.9) ask IP and notice MAC in whe-has frame. 15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) tell 77.93.52.9, length 46 0x0000: 001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 ..!E............ 0x0010: 0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 ............M]4. 0x0020: 001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 ..!E..M]4....... 0x0030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ............ Must freebsd replay to this who-has packet with ARP, Reply 77.93.52.10 is at .... or it must it ignore, becase of 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 is not its MAC address? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 15:17:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDA4106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreev.peter@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD60E8FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so653935gyf.13 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 08:17:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vvSnhzOEmC6hLijZKoiolV07Z2dBWolHCjihd9ppRuk=; b=w9dNslZVLtbjR+7o36DVWqPQ8wZrE+XA+u4LYf7OCXmutZuxYAUdFff2vAJrTV/rHg e9tIxZGrFVM6siND5aec8Ub48CsfR8SqOrD7iaXroxmMoCGBNfSsGwEPyb7D96r1pzjS FRuQos+59VnS2YqTSvPcxKfUIyHGPWREYRho0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.28.194 with SMTP id o2mr34260icc.407.1312382593144; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.230.130 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 07:43:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <959573537.20110803161948@yandex.ru> References: <959573537.20110803161948@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:43:13 +0400 Message-ID: From: Peter Andreev To: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd ARP problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:17:11 -0000 Eugenie I didn't understand your question, so I ask you for some clarification. 3 =C1=D7=C7=D5=D3=D4=C1 2011=9A=C7. 17:19 =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=D4=C5=CC= =D8 =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC: > Hi, all. > > I delete IP address from one server and add it to this one. You moved IP address from one server to second one. Right? > But connection is not up, because of remote server (77.93.52.9) > ask IP and notice MAC in whe-has frame. Are you trying to connect from second server to third one? Whose ip address is 77.93.52.9? > > 15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) tell= 77.93.52.9, length 46 > =9A =9A =9A =9A0x0000: =9A001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 =9A..!E= ............ > =9A =9A =9A =9A0x0010: =9A0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 =9A....= ........M]4. > =9A =9A =9A =9A0x0020: =9A001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 =9A..!E= ..M]4....... > =9A =9A =9A =9A0x0030: =9A0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 =9A =9A =9A =9A = =9A =9A............ > > Must freebsd replay to this who-has packet with > ARP, Reply 77.93.52.10 is at .... > =9Aor it must it ignore, becase of 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 is not its MAC addre= ss? Are these servers in different network segments? > > > -- > =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, > =9A=EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A = =9Amailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 -- AP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 16:41:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85511065670 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from anakin.london.02.net (anakin.london.02.net [87.194.255.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7FA8FC1B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by anakin.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E1D604000A3E19B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:41:45 +0000 Message-ID: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:41:44 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:41:46 -0000 Hi, before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul tell me how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is the first time I have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. I'm following the handbook. I think the basic setup is ok, I can get text printed using eg # lptest 20 5 | lpr -Plp If I try to print the postscript program given in the handbook %!PS 100 100 moveto 300 300 lineto stroke 310 310 moveto /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont (Is this thing working?) show showpage # cat |lpr -Plp I get the whole text of the file not just "Is this thing working?". The printer has various emulations, it is set to PCL 6 and I can't change it (not my printer) Printing from OpenOffice just produces screeds of garbage, starting with %!PS so I presume the text of the postscript that OO has produced. The bit I'm stuck on is in section 9.4.1.3 Simulating PostScript on Non PostScript Printers (which I presume is what I need), specifically setting the device. gs -h doesn't show this printer or any Kyocera printer. So either what should I set Device to, or how do I get ghostscript to know about this printer? I'm using 8.1-RELEASE, openoffice.org-3.2.1, ghostscript8-8.71_6 thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 17:35:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10698106566B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85438FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so767419gxk.13 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 10:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8ItErIGiZKN3bzs79UNrhhflHubB+ZGcgFJouehXuMc=; b=DmvtFaNELCSullW1ynkjgxUVtmkerRABZp3/STiP+DC1DoKUZYX426UMVq6EB22W7O nuPmBk/Jsm+aJ/SL3gyHLkK48F8fh4GwjuBmxKJ8qeQ1N6T9bQ3e1DgE+Uak3A6XjEDB bluqM+UQ9uxsXPySJE6KDR2cxZh3iTJr4klrY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.149.18 with SMTP id w18mr150508wfd.162.1312391403120; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: pldrouin@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.55.228 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> References: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:10:03 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kxHjj4y8FVJ1Ku8XdOvOfz5-vUg Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:35:59 -0000 Hi, I would install CUPS and use the PPD file recommended on openprinting.org (http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Kyocera/Kyocera-FS-1030D). Cheers, Pierre-Luc On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi, > > before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul tell me > how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is the first time I > have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. > > I'm following the handbook. I think the basic setup is ok, I can get text > printed using eg > # lptest 20 5 | lpr -Plp > > If I try to print the postscript program given in the handbook > %!PS > 100 100 moveto 300 300 lineto stroke > 310 310 moveto /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont > (Is this thing working?) show > showpage > > # cat |lpr -Plp > > I get the whole text of the file not just "Is this thing working?". > > The printer has various emulations, it is set to PCL 6 and I can't change it > (not my printer) > > Printing from OpenOffice just produces screeds of garbage, starting with > %!PS so I presume the text of the postscript that OO has produced. > > The bit I'm stuck on is in section 9.4.1.3 Simulating PostScript on Non > PostScript Printers (which I presume is what I need), specifically setting > the device. gs -h doesn't show this printer or any Kyocera printer. So > either what should I set Device to, or how do I get ghostscript to know > about this printer? > > I'm using 8.1-RELEASE, openoffice.org-3.2.1, ghostscript8-8.71_6 > > thanks > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 17:58:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3993106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD1D8FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p73Hx3pJ045564; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:59:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:59:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201108031759.p73Hx3pJ045564@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: cwhiteh@onetel.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> Cc: Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:58:45 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 3 11:42:44 2011 > Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:41:44 +0100 > From: Chris Whitehouse > To: User Questions > Subject: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D > > Hi, > > before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul tell > me how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is the first > time I have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. > > I'm following the handbook. I think the basic setup is ok, I can get > text printed using eg > # lptest 20 5 | lpr -Plp > > If I try to print the postscript program given in the handbook > %!PS > 100 100 moveto 300 300 lineto stroke > 310 310 moveto /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont > (Is this thing working?) show > showpage > > # cat |lpr -Plp > > I get the whole text of the file not just "Is this thing working?". Conclusive evidence the printer is _not_ enabled for Postscript. > > The printer has various emulations, it is set to PCL 6 and I can't > change it (not my printer) _That_ does explain the observed behavior, perfectly. :) > Printing from OpenOffice just produces screeds of garbage, starting with > %!PS so I presume the text of the postscript that OO has produced. Precisely correct. > The bit I'm stuck on is in section 9.4.1.3 Simulating PostScript on Non > PostScript Printers (which I presume is what I need), Correct. > specifically > setting the device. gs -h doesn't show this printer or any Kyocera > printer. Unsurprising. since it _does_ "understand" PS, _if_ you can set it that way. :) You -don't- need a driver that is specific to that printer, just one that will output the PCL language thae the printer understands. > So either what should I set Device to, or how do I get > ghostscript to know about this printer? I don't think there is a 'generic' "PCL" driver, but one of the 'HP laserjet' drivers _should_ do the job. Pick one thqt corresponds to a 'more-or-less recent' model. I can't give specific advice, as I don't have ghostscript installed on my FreeBSD server. (it's remote and I never actually print from it.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 17:59:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89FF1065687 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F4A8FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qofii-0004Xl-ME for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:59:04 +0200 Received: from 93-139-135-153.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.139.135.153]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:59:04 +0200 Received: from gour by 93-139-135-153.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:59:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gour-Gadadhara Dasa Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:58:51 +0200 Lines: 51 Message-ID: <20110803195851.34da8f68@atmarama.net> References: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/r+Kpma0l0jNV2P5uslgz7Iv"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-139-135-153.adsl.net.t-com.hr X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Face: 3Cy8q3pLN"sFiKpp%e^3=GTSm2xV5z:O1:| :WC~ei/w@ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:59:08 -0000 --Sig_/r+Kpma0l0jNV2P5uslgz7Iv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:41:44 +0100 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi, >=20 > before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul > tell me how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is > the first time I have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. I've Kyocera FS-920 and recommend printing via CUPS by using *.PPD driver. Sincerely, Gour --=20 =E2=80=9CIn the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 --Sig_/r+Kpma0l0jNV2P5uslgz7Iv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOOYxbAAoJELhxXPVStcgQ6zwP/3w9aXpEjL3PA/oLOkm8F5aa znqHq30FTGj8jc7J6PvByPgrw4CBpabodpwsRRefjHuzyHfJXj4DCWtrcHcv65ss eClIADU9FgDMb3MESDHrHIQNeJY+1PN/SpjXex/5cyhwSlsGLdO3drr2139tNPI8 8n1DjQWEKJJxJM6ovzeof8rktjECQck+64GYq6RlRU6C2m7ezrBpxGzNpUPCD+kQ KKqvstMuEKi6ZF4lpyqzAaepBYyEwGdoxfaGXKAbhbbrHX3t6wWEGcopW0wi4Pga iJol5I/at2VRw+Zxdl9gRL8t0XNr46j+i0/2laf1abQp4ib1xYTra84lAvCgm9xs P6KFf9Exdzx5BB57RqGXeYxYQvGKCJ12NMSnjSxbQm+n+hx4zbAznVAz7iz1HIeV GuURlEvjVUR7hj7VmKcfl5dOtCFTYGTY90OgrWhkQrZOBeJ8cbq7AWq6+lkgJVPi tg18LV6sl9KNeY/DTC7ykmJYJfYum7E+jn5QgqcM6lvlIG8eFjs4cx8tGmCRyBFV HPnx+hi4YmE6eb39eSrr1ZCQCUzPDE8/M3tiTWRvvYYx5UubaAkZzb6AtmGrN97/ hOtn0Y8AQfuu3YTQ+LaWhCD0lD5YWjH5n8dQd9JWaR8p9kVGKDjmobzorg2Sp1xv 1Rxs1Fyryxi5Q0Wi6bi1 =dAxg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/r+Kpma0l0jNV2P5uslgz7Iv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 18:07:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B004106566B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA288FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p73I818v045622; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:08:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:08:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: cwhiteh@onetel.com, pldrouin@pldrouin.net In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:07:43 -0000 Pierre, please do not 'top post' replies -- it makes the 'logic' of the message hard to follow, to wit: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? See also _RFC 1855_ for the closest thing to an 'official' stance on the matter. > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:10:03 -0400 > From: Pierre-Luc Drouin > To: Chris Whitehouse > Cc: User Questions > Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D > > Hi, > > I would install CUPS and use the PPD file recommended on openprinting.org > (http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Kyocera/Kyocera-FS-1030D). This is -guaranteed- to be *ineffective*. Apparently you missed the mention in the OP's original message that the printer is running in 'PCL' emulation mode, and that he _cannot_ change that. > Cheers, Pierre-Luc > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Chris Whitehouse > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul tell > > me how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is the first > > time I have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. > > > > I'm following the handbook. I think the basic setup is ok, I can get > > text printed using eg > > # lptest 20 5 | lpr -Plp > > > > If I try to print the postscript program given in the handbook > > %!PS > > 100 100 moveto 300 300 lineto stroke > > 310 310 moveto /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont > > (Is this thing working?) show > > showpage > > > > # cat |lpr -Plp > > > > I get the whole text of the file not just "Is this thing working?". > > > > The printer has various emulations, it is set to PCL 6 and I can't > > change it > > (not my printer) > > > > Printing from OpenOffice just produces screeds of garbage, starting > > with %!PS so I presume the text of the postscript that OO has produced. > > > > The bit I'm stuck on is in section 9.4.1.3 Simulating PostScript on Non > > PostScript Printers (which I presume is what I need), specifically > > setting the device. gs -h doesn't show this printer or any Kyocera > > printer. So either what should I set Device to, or how do I get > > ghostscript to know about this printer? > > > > I'm using 8.1-RELEASE, openoffice.org-3.2.1, ghostscript8-8.71_6 > > > > thanks > > > > Chris > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 18:18:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E98106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB9D8FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.156] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qog1o-00021b-3w; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:18:49 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. 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(8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p73IIsei001093; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:18:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:18:53 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20110803181852.GA1079@tiny> References: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.156 Cc: pldrouin@pldrouin.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, cwhiteh@onetel.com Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:18:56 -0000 El día Wednesday, August 03, 2011 a las 01:08:01PM -0500, Robert Bonomi escribió: > > Pierre, please do not 'top post' replies -- it makes the 'logic' of the > message hard to follow, to wit: Yes, please do not top post; > Apparently you missed the mention in the OP's original message that the > printer is running in 'PCL' emulation mode, and that he _cannot_ change > that. So, what? If you can only print PCL, just raster the Postscript file with ghostscript to PCL (using CUPS, this also can be done on the fly); > > > # cat |lpr -Plp To the OP: You won the todays "Useless Use of Cat Award" :-) The same would do: lpr -Plp < ps-file or lpr -Plp ps-file :-) matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 18:23:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0344E1065670 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B830F8FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E0C26D60AB; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:29:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JX7pSWGcixjm; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.46.167] (173-160-104-249-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.160.104.249]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 688C026D60AA; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:22:51 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: Robert Bonomi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Cc: pldrouin@pldrouin.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, cwhiteh@onetel.com Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:23:11 -0000 Screw off. Top posting is actually a default in the mail software = community. And I will always do it. More annoying: Extra spaces and not removing the cruff from the bottom = of emails. And condescending asshats. On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >=20 > Pierre, please do not 'top post' replies -- it makes the 'logic' of = the > message hard to follow, to wit: >=20 > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >=20 >=20 >=20 > A: Top-posting. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > See also _RFC 1855_ for the closest thing to an 'official' stance on = the matter. >=20 >=20 >> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:10:03 -0400 >> From: Pierre-Luc Drouin >> To: Chris Whitehouse >> Cc: User Questions >> Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> I would install CUPS and use the PPD file recommended on = openprinting.org >> (http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Kyocera/Kyocera-FS-1030D). >=20 > This is -guaranteed- to be *ineffective*. >=20 > Apparently you missed the mention in the OP's original message that = the > printer is running in 'PCL' emulation mode, and that he _cannot_ = change > that. >=20 >> Cheers, Pierre-Luc >>=20 >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Chris Whitehouse = =20 >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul = tell=20 >>> me how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is the = first=20 >>> time I have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. >>>=20 >>> I'm following the handbook. I think the basic setup is ok, I can get=20= >>> text printed using eg >>> # lptest 20 5 | lpr -Plp >>>=20 >>> If I try to print the postscript program given in the handbook >>> %!PS >>> 100 100 moveto 300 300 lineto stroke >>> 310 310 moveto /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont >>> (Is this thing working?) show >>> showpage >>>=20 >>> # cat |lpr -Plp >>>=20 >>> I get the whole text of the file not just "Is this thing working?". >>>=20 >>> The printer has various emulations, it is set to PCL 6 and I can't=20= >>> change it >>> (not my printer) >>>=20 >>> Printing from OpenOffice just produces screeds of garbage, starting=20= >>> with %!PS so I presume the text of the postscript that OO has = produced. >>>=20 >>> The bit I'm stuck on is in section 9.4.1.3 Simulating PostScript on = Non=20 >>> PostScript Printers (which I presume is what I need), specifically=20= >>> setting the device. gs -h doesn't show this printer or any Kyocera=20= >>> printer. So either what should I set Device to, or how do I get=20 >>> ghostscript to know about this printer? >>>=20 >>> I'm using 8.1-RELEASE, openoffice.org-3.2.1, ghostscript8-8.71_6 >>>=20 >>> thanks >>>=20 >>> Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 18:29:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E02106566B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853C48FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.156] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QogCL-0005fd-7N; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:29:42 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p73ITpUE001140; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:29:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de. (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p73ITlDu001139; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:29:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:29:47 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20110803182946.GA1114@tiny> References: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.156 Cc: pldrouin@pldrouin.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, cwhiteh@onetel.com, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:29:47 -0000 El día Wednesday, August 03, 2011 a las 01:22:51PM -0500, Ryan Coleman escribió: > Screw off. Top posting is actually a default in the mail software community. > And I will always do it. It is by no way a "default". It is just a defect, ignorance and bad taste, and even if the mayority use it, it will just show that this mayority is ignorant (to not use an unpolite word). matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 18:38:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E011065670 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost1.waddell.com (mailhost1.waddell.com [67.130.252.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321958FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [10.1.10.26]) by mailhost1.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6F150DD2; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:38:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D377578A67; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:38:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by emlpfilt4.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E1B578A66; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:38:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.133]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:38:48 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: Ryan Coleman Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:38:48 -0500 Thread-Topic: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D Thread-Index: AcxSC2ibiN7gE8vxTAyFYsGVWd/9gwAAGyFw Message-ID: <20331_1312396728_4E3995B8_20331_39_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218726@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20110803182946.GA1114@tiny> In-Reply-To: <20110803182946.GA1114@tiny> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:38:49 -0000 Alas, I was wondering when this would pop up again. Seems about every quar= ter or so... Notice that I posted Top AND Bottom - is that half as bad or = doubly bad? And seriously, although it (Top posting) is apparently a viola= tion of the list AUP, does it REALLY matter THAT much? Personally I HATE b= ottom posting as I "try" to follow threads real-time and having to scroll t= o the bottom to see the most recent post sucks - especially on mobile email= . But, if I was about to get kicked off the list I would probably bottom p= ost... -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Matthias Apitz Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:30 PM To: Ryan Coleman Cc: pldrouin@pldrouin.net; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; cwhiteh@onetel.co= m; Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D El d=EDa Wednesday, August 03, 2011 a las 01:22:51PM -0500, Ryan Coleman es= cribi=F3: > Screw off. Top posting is actually a default in the mail software communi= ty. > And I will always do it. It is by no way a "default". It is just a defect, ignorance and bad taste, and even if the mayority use it, it will just show that this mayority is ignorant (to not use an unpolite word). Alas, I was wondering when this would pop up again. Seems about every quar= ter or so... Notice that I posted Top AND Bottom - is that half as bad or = doubly bad? And seriously, although it (Top posting) is apparently a viola= tion of the list AUP, does it REALLY matter THAT much? Personally I HATE b= ottom posting as I "try" to follow threads real-time and having to scroll t= o the bottom to see the most recent post sucks - especially on mobile email= . But, if I was about to get kicked off the list I would probably bottom p= ost...
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 19:01:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D951065670 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9DC8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p73J1ofu046001 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:01:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:01:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201108031901.p73J1ofu046001@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: top-posting 'condescending asshats' (to use Ryan Coleman's description of himself) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:01:31 -0000 > Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D > From: Ryan Coleman > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:22:51 -0500 > > Screw off. I'd suggest that you "take your own advice', except for the fact that you probably don't know *how*. > Top posting is actually a default in the mail software > community. FALSE TO FACT. "top posting" was _universally_ frowned upon in the early days of email. It became 'common', albeit *NOT* preferred/desirable, when Microsoft introduced that botch in _their_ e-mail client, and the vast majority of their users "didn't know any better." There are sound 'human factors' reasons why bottom-posting is preferable in most situations. *ANY* situation where the elapsed time between messages is longer than the recipient's ability to retain the 'frame of reference' (i.e., the previous message) in memory, it _is_ harder for the recipient of the message to follow top-posted content than interleaved/bottom-posted. They _do_ have to scan back-and-forth to find out (first) _what_ is being talked about,and (then) what the response is. Top posting _can_ be appropriate in situations where it is *KNOWN* that eall_ parties will receive, and _read_, the 'reply' in a 'near-immediate' time-frame relative to when the original was sent. Those who fail to recognize this inherent _FACT_ of all 'non-local' store-and-forward communications systems -- where the sender has _NO_ idea of 'how soon' the recipient will read the message, or what they may have been doing in the mean time -- *are* being 'inconsiderate' to their readers. Those who _insist_ on doing it, despite attempts at education, are *arrogant*, inconsiderate, ignoramuses. > And I will always do it. No doubt. Marking you as an arrogant, and *deliberately* inconsiderate, asshat. > More annoying: Extra spaces and not removing the cruff from the bottom of > emails. And condescending asshats. I see you believe in the double-standard of "do as I say, not as I do" given that you left in over 60 lines of material that was entirely irrelevant to your empty-headed posturing. Note: The _entire_ prior conent is left intact here, to expressly document the truth of the above statement. > > On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > > > Pierre, please do not 'top post' replies -- it makes the 'logic' of the > > message hard to follow, to wit: > > > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > > > > > > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > > > > > > > A: Top-posting. > > > > > > > > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > > > > > > > > > > See also _RFC 1855_ for the closest thing to an 'official' stance on > > the matter. > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:10:03 -0400 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin > >> To: Chris Whitehouse Cc: > >> User Questions Subject: Re: printing > >> to Kyocera FS-1030D > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I would install CUPS and use the PPD file recommended on > >> openprinting.org > >> (http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Kyocera/Kyocera-FS-1030D). > > > > This is -guaranteed- to be *ineffective*. > > > > Apparently you missed the mention in the OP's original message that the > > printer is running in 'PCL' emulation mode, and that he _cannot_ change > > that. > > > >> Cheers, Pierre-Luc > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Chris Whitehouse > >> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul > >>> tell me how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is > >>> the first time I have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. > >>> > >>> I'm following the handbook. I think the basic setup is ok, I can get > >>> text printed using eg > >>> # lptest 20 5 | lpr -Plp > >>> > >>> If I try to print the postscript program given in the handbook > >>> %!PS > >>> 100 100 moveto 300 300 lineto stroke > >>> 310 310 moveto /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont > >>> (Is this thing working?) show > >>> showpage > >>> > >>> # cat |lpr -Plp > >>> > >>> I get the whole text of the file not just "Is this thing working?". > >>> > >>> The printer has various emulations, it is set to PCL 6 and I can't > >>> change it > >>> (not my printer) > >>> > >>> Printing from OpenOffice just produces screeds of garbage, starting > >>> with %!PS so I presume the text of the postscript that OO has > >>> produced. > >>> > >>> The bit I'm stuck on is in section 9.4.1.3 Simulating PostScript on > >>> Non PostScript Printers (which I presume is what I need), > >>> specifically setting the device. gs -h doesn't show this printer or > >>> any Kyocera printer. So either what should I set Device to, or how do > >>> I get ghostscript to know about this printer? > >>> > >>> I'm using 8.1-RELEASE, openoffice.org-3.2.1, ghostscript8-8.71_6 > >>> > >>> thanks > >>> > >>> Chris > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 19:15:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140B8106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sulfurfff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE08C8FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so559502gwb.13 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:15:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZEswzWmwNRcdjdBGZKr2A3QOF1xQ0avIuIZdxk8NBVY=; b=FVZknvhmGVDBG1R2VeXp8QZNBY1STLPu3AJKOymaYOLVZxQXACCUuYPk4EyowXYv6T r2KF5n8dFiTQxdMYFyvfDSPNKmyzmqMV5CfE1GP+tcybzCqL0ZfdiL92aAlkrQhksO+s RZPPbNLZ7iCzRCbxkUAq6mcuymhXWSkVeW4FQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.248.21 with SMTP id v21mr5007196wfh.42.1312397165014; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.43.33 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:46:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ismael_Farf=C3=A1n?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Installing a more recent version of xorg-server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:15:56 -0000 Hello list I just installed FreeBSD 8.2 in this new laptop I got and I must say it's working good enough so far : ) The only thing preventing from actually starting using it is that my video card doesn't work with the version of xorg-server in the port's tree, I tried with i720, i810 and Intel drivers and nothing. (--) PCI: (0:0:2:0) 8086:0126:1028:0491 Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller rev 9 (II) LoadModule: "intel" (EE) No devices detected. This configuration with the VESA driver works=C2=A0BUT... (yes, I have an optimus card :( http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D21095 (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Mouse0 (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 So I can't log in, and I don't want to work with a screen resolution of 800x600 either (Modes "1600x900" gets ignored) I manually modified the make file to get xserver 10.2, but (as expected) there are some cascade dependencies that I don't want to hunt down by hand... so I was wondering if you had an unofficial ports tree or something with a more recent version of xorg-server. Regards -- [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D] How do you create an operating system on Linux Ubuntu 9.10? Y luego que por qu=C3=A9 no me gusta usar Ubuntu... [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 19:45:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A94106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from anakin.london.02.net (anakin.london.02.net [87.194.255.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C6F8FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by anakin.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E1D604000A56EC1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:45:33 +0000 Message-ID: <4E39A55D.5070708@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:45:33 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> <20110803195851.34da8f68@atmarama.net> In-Reply-To: <20110803195851.34da8f68@atmarama.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:45:34 -0000 On 03/08/2011 18:58, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: > On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:41:44 +0100 > Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul >> tell me how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is >> the first time I have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. > > I've Kyocera FS-920 and recommend printing via CUPS by using *.PPD driver. > > > Sincerely, > Gour > I thought about CUPS but it's just one computer and one printer so CUPS seems a bit overkill. Besides since I've never set up UNIX printing before I think it's a good idea to try and do it from the basics first. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 19:48:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA16106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8238FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E261CD100A47B14; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:48:40 +0100 Message-ID: <4E39A618.3010303@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:48:40 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201108031759.p73Hx3pJ045564@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201108031759.p73Hx3pJ045564@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:48:51 -0000 On 03/08/2011 18:59, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> So either what should I set Device to, or how do I get >> ghostscript to know about this printer? > > I don't think there is a 'generic' "PCL" driver, but one of the 'HP > laserjet' drivers _should_ do the job. Pick one thqt corresponds to > a 'more-or-less recent' model. I can't give specific advice, as I > don't have ghostscript installed on my FreeBSD server. (it's remote > and I never actually print from it.) Rechecking gs -h there is a pcl3 driver so I'll give it a try as well as actual printer drivers as you suggest. Thanks Chris > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 19:51:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9684F106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653EB8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E26208700A2959F; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:51:16 +0100 Message-ID: <4E39A6B3.9070603@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:51:15 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20110803181852.GA1079@tiny> In-Reply-To: <20110803181852.GA1079@tiny> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:51:17 -0000 On 03/08/2011 19:18, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>>> # cat |lpr -Plp > > To the OP: You won the todays "Useless Use of Cat Award" :-) > The same would do: > > lpr -Plp< ps-file > or > lpr -Plp ps-file > > :-) > > matthias Well I'm not a guru so perhaps I can be excused :-) Still thanks for the pointer about lpr, I should have read the man page. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 20:28:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1EA106566C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0FF8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p73KStGB014771; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:28:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p73KSrER014768; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:28:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:28:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chris Whitehouse In-Reply-To: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> Message-ID: References: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:28:55 -0600 (MDT) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:28:57 -0000 On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > # cat |lpr -Plp > > I get the whole text of the file not just "Is this thing working?". > > The printer has various emulations, it is set to PCL 6 and I can't change it > (not my printer) HP printers can use PJL sequences to set the page description language, or autodetect it via the first few characters. But if someone in charge decided to stick you with PCL6 that should also include PCL5. > Printing from OpenOffice just produces screeds of garbage, starting with %!PS > so I presume the text of the postscript that OO has produced. > > The bit I'm stuck on is in section 9.4.1.3 Simulating PostScript on Non > PostScript Printers (which I presume is what I need), specifically setting > the device. gs -h doesn't show this printer or any Kyocera printer. So either > what should I set Device to, or how do I get ghostscript to know about this > printer? The ljet4 driver in Ghostscript produces PCL5. I think there's also a PCL6 driver, but have never bothered. My printing document here shows how to create a PS to PCL5 filter: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 23:28:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4A8106564A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1A98FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10289912; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:27:59 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10289910 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:27:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4E39CB66.8020903@radel.com> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:27:50 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201108031901.p73J1ofu046001@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201108031901.p73J1ofu046001@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: top-posting 'condescending asshats' (to use Ryan Coleman's description of himself) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:28:00 -0000 On 8/3/11 3:01 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > *ANY* situation where the elapsed time between messages is longer than the > recipient's ability to retain the 'frame of reference' (i.e., the previous > message) in memory, it _is_ harder for the recipient of the message to follow > top-posted content than interleaved/bottom-posted. They _do_ have to scan > back-and-forth to find out (first) _what_ is being talked about,and (then) > what the response is. But you can learn so very many interesting things if you read down to the part that has the internal discussion about what they wish to tell you, which they completely loose track of by they time they send you a nice sanitized statement way up top..... ;-) --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 23:40:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51833106566C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3119E8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29782 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2011 23:40:24 -0000 Received: from 24-113-112-30.wavecable.com (HELO [192.168.2.2]) (tomdean@[24.113.112.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Aug 2011 23:40:24 -0000 From: "Thomas D. Dean" To: Ismael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Farf=E1n?= In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Home Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:40:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1312414824.2229.122.camel@asus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a more recent version of xorg-server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tomdean@speakeasy.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:40:25 -0000 On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 11:46 -0700, Ismael Farfán wrote: This config works on my HP Envy with Intel GUI Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "dri2" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" #Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 380 210 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "LGD" ModelName "2c4" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] #Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] Identifier "Card1" Driver "vesa" VendorName "Intel Corporation" BoardName "Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card1" Monitor "Monitor1" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 3 23:58:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66C6106567A for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895298FC20 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so2394205iye.17 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:58:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Edkeq5K1mIFSd6ZzXTjXP3+OTHgg3DauU8PXMNfe+kM=; b=JMbC1l2Wou1J6EO6x7XM3zhG964giBAfeb2nPgEcEFPWY6XJiBBzexlztm6CCd4TYC 37O50zktly1WzhgmclF2qCtg1PQlzkuEb+2g4yjOWI0Xtau6R1HBLuZMa0eLLvZLCOHo UqFGUU+xTUOMsS4SE+bmrz3oLrQzivF0UY0RY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.52.136 with SMTP id vm8mr103098icb.25.1312415880623; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:58:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:58:01 -0000 Dear folks, I am sorry to bother you guys, but I need your help. I have a scanner HP 3300C scanner that is connected to one of my freebsd 8.2 amd machines. I have done my homework: read section scanners on FreeBSD Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/scanners.html looked at other threads: http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=2057&page=1 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12037990 As root user, I can find the device name: quadcore# sane-find-scanner -q found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=0x0205 [HP ScanJet 3300C]) at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2 found USB scanner (vendor=0x0bda, product=0x8187 [RTL8187_Wireless]) at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen3.3 but as myself(regular user) not :( [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ sane-find-scanner -q [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ I try to run simplescan -L but can't get it to work. I run xsane and it tells me that it can't find devices. I looked in /etc/sane.d/ and found hp.conf and edited it to handbook scanners section, see hp.conf below: quadcore# pwd /usr/local/etc/sane.d quadcore# ls -l total 166 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 25 Aug 3 17:46 abaton.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 14 Aug 3 17:46 agfafocus.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 24 Aug 3 17:46 apple.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 26 Aug 3 17:46 artec.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4188 Aug 3 17:46 artec_eplus48u.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 543 Aug 3 17:46 avision.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 29 Aug 3 17:46 bh.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 35 Aug 3 17:46 canon.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 193 Aug 3 17:46 canon630u.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2834 Aug 3 17:46 canon_dr.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 509 Aug 3 17:46 cardscan.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 34 Aug 3 17:46 coolscan.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 754 Aug 3 17:46 coolscan2.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 754 Aug 3 17:46 coolscan3.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 984 Aug 3 17:46 dc210.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 984 Aug 3 17:46 dc240.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 704 Aug 3 17:46 dc25.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 492 Aug 3 17:46 dell1600n_net.conf drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1536 Aug 3 17:46 dist -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 682 Aug 3 17:46 dll.conf drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 3 17:46 dll.d -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 12 Aug 3 17:46 dmc.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1402 Aug 3 17:46 epjitsu.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 793 Aug 3 17:46 epson.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 376 Aug 3 17:46 epson2.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1679 Aug 3 17:46 fujitsu.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1157 Aug 3 17:46 genesys.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7798 Aug 3 17:46 gt68xx.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 589 Aug 3 18:44 hp.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 396 Aug 3 17:46 hp3900.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 76 Aug 3 17:46 hp4200.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 238 Aug 3 17:46 hp5400.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 24 Aug 3 17:46 hs2p.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 38 Aug 3 17:46 ibm.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 367 Aug 3 17:46 kodak.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 113 Aug 3 17:46 leo.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 96 Aug 3 17:46 lexmark.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 187 Aug 3 17:46 ma1509.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 666 Aug 3 17:46 matsushita.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 268 Aug 3 17:46 microtek.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 279 Aug 3 17:46 microtek2.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2125 Aug 3 17:46 mustek.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 809 Aug 3 17:46 mustek_usb.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 13 Aug 3 17:46 nec.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 573 Aug 3 17:46 net.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 365 Aug 3 17:46 p5.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 75 Aug 3 17:46 pie.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 492 Aug 3 17:46 pixma.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4142 Aug 3 17:46 plustek.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 943 Aug 3 17:46 plustek_pp.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 29 Aug 3 17:46 ricoh.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 183 Aug 3 17:46 rts8891.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 13 Aug 3 17:46 s9036.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1052 Aug 3 17:46 saned.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 48 Aug 3 17:46 sceptre.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1464 Aug 3 17:46 sharp.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 115 Aug 3 17:46 sm3840.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2245 Aug 3 17:46 snapscan.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 10 Aug 3 17:46 sp15c.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2224 Aug 3 17:46 st400.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 178 Aug 3 17:46 stv680.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 28 Aug 3 17:46 tamarack.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 355 Aug 3 17:46 teco1.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 636 Aug 3 17:46 teco2.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 217 Aug 3 17:46 teco3.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1807 Aug 3 17:46 test.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1495 Aug 3 17:46 u12.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3094 Aug 3 17:46 umax.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 386 Aug 3 17:46 umax1220u.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1684 Aug 3 17:46 umax_pp.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 399 Aug 3 17:46 xerox_mfp.conf quadcore# cat hp.conf #scsi HP # Uncomment the following if you have "Error during device I/O" on SCSI # option dumb-read # # The usual place for a SCSI-scanner on Linux #/dev/scanner # # USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend # HP ScanJet 4100C #usb 0x03f0 0x0101 # HP ScanJet 5200C #usb 0x03f0 0x0401 # HP ScanJet 62X0C #usb 0x03f0 0x0201 # HP ScanJet 63X0C #usb 0x03f0 0x0601 # HP ScanJet 3300C 0x03f0 0x0205 at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2 usb /dev/uscanner0 # # Uncomment the following if your scanner is connected by USB, # but you are not using libusb # /dev/usb/scanner0 # option connect-device [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ scanimage -L No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). I have a file that should help with permissions, but I don't know if that could be the cause? [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/rc.conf # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Jul 26 23:20:43 2011 # Created: Tue Jul 26 23:20:43 2011 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. hostname="quadcore.home" ifconfig_msk0="DHCP" ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_hosts="north-america.pool.ntp.org" tcp_extensions="NO" dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" devfs_system_ruleset="Removable_Media" lpd_enable="YES" ipfilter_enable="YES" ipfileter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" ipmon_enable="YES" ipmon_flags="-Ds" [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/dev devd/ devd.conf devfs.conf devfs.rules [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/devfs.rules [Removable Media] add path 'ad*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'acd*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'cd*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'pass*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'xpt*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'ugen*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'usb*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'lpt*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'ulpt*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'unlpt*' mode 0666 group operator add path 'fd*' mode 0666 group operator Do I need to add uscanner* to it? or another suggestion. I would like for the scanner to work as user. Advice/suggestions/comments are welcome and appreciated :) Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 00:30:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E111065672 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 00:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C421E8FC15 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 00:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so2443197iye.17 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:30:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QcF0ei/z2xRjOCf7oTAiQG/VfMj1FPZe1yjcdKQTDEk=; b=ktpmloTWvIMBtl4aLprW0UPrgucZnJMXHnRqPT0QxsD1bV+MyoHmAZ2ihVyJTKyo7X QXn+c/hoCZDxu7GXEodFWiWixF0yccLM/fE9m3geVjuhTqiDgRZXtHKnFoKfNNXAkWxg E+jwgtk2yeIL+vzPxz+QQT65TJf5XSmxO7T7Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.144.68 with SMTP id a4mr101220icv.427.1312417832554; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:30:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:30:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:30:34 -0000 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear folks, > > I am sorry to bother you guys, but I need your help. =A0I have a scanner > HP 3300C scanner that is connected to one of my freebsd 8.2 amd > machines. > > I have done my homework: > read section scanners on FreeBSD Handbook: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/scanners.html > > looked at other threads: > > http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D2057&page=3D1 > > http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12037990 > > As root user, I can find the device name: > > quadcore# sane-find-scanner -q > found USB scanner (vendor=3D0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=3D0x0205 [H= P > ScanJet 3300C]) at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2 > found USB scanner (vendor=3D0x0bda, product=3D0x8187 [RTL8187_Wireless]) > at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen3.3 > > but as myself(regular user) not :( > > [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ sane-find-scanner -q > [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ > > I try to run simplescan -L but can't get it to work. =A0I run xsane and > it tells me that it can't find devices. =A0I looked in /etc/sane.d/ and > found hp.conf and edited it to handbook scanners section, see hp.conf > below: > > quadcore# pwd > /usr/local/etc/sane.d > quadcore# ls -l > total 166 > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A025 Aug =A03 17:46 abaton.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A014 Aug =A03 17:46 agfafocus.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A024 Aug =A03 17:46 apple.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A026 Aug =A03 17:46 artec.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A04188 Aug =A03 17:46 artec_eplus48u.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 543 Aug =A03 17:46 avision.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A029 Aug =A03 17:46 bh.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A035 Aug =A03 17:46 canon.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 193 Aug =A03 17:46 canon630u.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A02834 Aug =A03 17:46 canon_dr.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 509 Aug =A03 17:46 cardscan.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A034 Aug =A03 17:46 coolscan.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 754 Aug =A03 17:46 coolscan2.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 754 Aug =A03 17:46 coolscan3.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 984 Aug =A03 17:46 dc210.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 984 Aug =A03 17:46 dc240.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 704 Aug =A03 17:46 dc25.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 492 Aug =A03 17:46 dell1600n_net.conf > drwxr-xr-x =A02 root =A0wheel =A01536 Aug =A03 17:46 dist > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 682 Aug =A03 17:46 dll.conf > drwxr-xr-x =A02 root =A0wheel =A0 512 Aug =A03 17:46 dll.d > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A012 Aug =A03 17:46 dmc.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01402 Aug =A03 17:46 epjitsu.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 793 Aug =A03 17:46 epson.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 376 Aug =A03 17:46 epson2.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01679 Aug =A03 17:46 fujitsu.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01157 Aug =A03 17:46 genesys.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A07798 Aug =A03 17:46 gt68xx.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 589 Aug =A03 18:44 hp.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 396 Aug =A03 17:46 hp3900.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A076 Aug =A03 17:46 hp4200.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 238 Aug =A03 17:46 hp5400.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A024 Aug =A03 17:46 hs2p.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A038 Aug =A03 17:46 ibm.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 367 Aug =A03 17:46 kodak.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 113 Aug =A03 17:46 leo.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A096 Aug =A03 17:46 lexmark.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 187 Aug =A03 17:46 ma1509.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 666 Aug =A03 17:46 matsushita.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 268 Aug =A03 17:46 microtek.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 279 Aug =A03 17:46 microtek2.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A02125 Aug =A03 17:46 mustek.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 809 Aug =A03 17:46 mustek_usb.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A013 Aug =A03 17:46 nec.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 573 Aug =A03 17:46 net.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 365 Aug =A03 17:46 p5.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A075 Aug =A03 17:46 pie.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 492 Aug =A03 17:46 pixma.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A04142 Aug =A03 17:46 plustek.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 943 Aug =A03 17:46 plustek_pp.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A029 Aug =A03 17:46 ricoh.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 183 Aug =A03 17:46 rts8891.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A013 Aug =A03 17:46 s9036.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01052 Aug =A03 17:46 saned.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A048 Aug =A03 17:46 sceptre.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01464 Aug =A03 17:46 sharp.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 115 Aug =A03 17:46 sm3840.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A02245 Aug =A03 17:46 snapscan.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A010 Aug =A03 17:46 sp15c.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A02224 Aug =A03 17:46 st400.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 178 Aug =A03 17:46 stv680.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A028 Aug =A03 17:46 tamarack.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 355 Aug =A03 17:46 teco1.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 636 Aug =A03 17:46 teco2.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 217 Aug =A03 17:46 teco3.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01807 Aug =A03 17:46 test.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01495 Aug =A03 17:46 u12.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A03094 Aug =A03 17:46 umax.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 386 Aug =A03 17:46 umax1220u.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01684 Aug =A03 17:46 umax_pp.conf > -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 399 Aug =A03 17:46 xerox_mfp.conf > quadcore# cat hp.conf > #scsi HP > # Uncomment the following if you have "Error during device I/O" on SCSI > # =A0 option dumb-read > # > # The usual place for a SCSI-scanner on Linux > #/dev/scanner > # > # USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend > # HP ScanJet 4100C > #usb 0x03f0 0x0101 > # HP ScanJet 5200C > #usb 0x03f0 0x0401 > # HP ScanJet 62X0C > #usb 0x03f0 0x0201 > # HP ScanJet 63X0C > #usb 0x03f0 0x0601 > # HP ScanJet 3300C 0x03f0 0x0205 =A0at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2 > usb /dev/uscanner0 > # > # Uncomment the following if your scanner is connected by USB, > # but you are not using libusb > # /dev/usb/scanner0 > # =A0 option connect-device > > [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ scanimage -L > > No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, > check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the > sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation > which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). > > I have a file that should help with permissions, but I don't know if > that could be the cause? > > [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/rc.conf > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Jul 26 23:20:43 2011 > # Created: Tue Jul 26 23:20:43 2011 > # Enable network daemons for user convenience. > # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > hostname=3D"quadcore.home" > ifconfig_msk0=3D"DHCP" > ntpdate_enable=3D"YES" > ntpdate_hosts=3D"north-america.pool.ntp.org" > tcp_extensions=3D"NO" > dbus_enable=3D"YES" > hald_enable=3D"YES" > devfs_system_ruleset=3D"Removable_Media" > lpd_enable=3D"YES" > ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" > ipfileter_rules=3D"/etc/ipf.rules" > ipmon_enable=3D"YES" > ipmon_flags=3D"-Ds" > > > [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/dev > devd/ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0devd.conf =A0 =A0devfs.conf =A0 devfs.rules > [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/devfs.rules > [Removable Media] > add path 'ad*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'acd*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'cd*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'pass*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'xpt*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'ugen*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'usb*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'lpt*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'ulpt*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'unlpt*' mode 0666 group operator > add path 'fd*' mode 0666 group operator > > Do I need to add uscanner* to it? =A0or another suggestion. =A0I would > like for the scanner to work as user. > Advice/suggestions/comments are welcome and appreciated :) > > Regards, > > Antonio > Found out some more information http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Scanner-Compatibility-td3778260.html In above page I found a link to check by vendor: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD If found it says complete: ScanJet 3300c USB 0x03f0/0x0205 Complete niash (0.3) sane-niash It took a great while for this to give me a response quadcore# scanimage -L device `niash:libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 3300C flatbed scanner I have downloaded the backend in case if it is needed here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hp3300backend/files/backend/20060304/backen= d-20060304.tar.gz/download now I don't know how to troubleshoot this. Thanks & sorry for replying to my own question(s). Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 00:35:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADED3106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 00:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D158FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 00:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-103-124.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.103.124]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8F31E23B; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 02:35:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p740ZaS6001547; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 02:35:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 02:35:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: pldrouin@pldrouin.net Message-Id: <20110804023536.ef140d49.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110803181852.GA1079@tiny> References: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20110803181852.GA1079@tiny> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:35:41 -0000 On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:18:53 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > So, what? If you can only print PCL, just raster the Postscript file > with ghostscript to PCL (using CUPS, this also can be done on the fly); Why the emphasize of CUPS? Even printer filter collections like apsfilter are "too fat" for that job. If I want to get a nail into the wall, I don't hammer it with the tool box. :-) In fact, apsfilter just uses gs with some parameters to turn PS - the _default_ printing output format - into PCL. You can install the ghostscript port (gs) and then add a very simple gs filter. It can be activated in /etc/printcap, pointing to that filter script. Here's an example of what such a filter can do (in my case: for a HP Laserjet 4000 duplex in PCL mode for two-sided priting): gs -q -dBATCH -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET \ -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs \ -sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" \ -sDeviceModel="HP LaserJet" -dDuplex=true \ -dIjsUseOutputFD -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600 The corresponding /etc/printcap entry is this: Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: (And: Yes, it's a parallel attached printer in fact.) You can easily deduct what the certain parameters do. In fact, apsfilter doesn't do much more, although it has a "pretty printing pre-filter" that allows you tricks like % lpr somepicture.png or even % lpr foo/bar/bla.c with "syntax highlighting" in the output, if you need. For printing from within X, _any_ program, be it OpenOffice or an image processing tool, accessing the proper printer queue is fully sufficient. Keep in mind that _some_ programs require you to check printer settings (like Gimp for example) for format and resolution. > > > > # cat |lpr -Plp > > To the OP: You won the todays "Useless Use of Cat Award" :-) > The same would do: > > lpr -Plp < ps-file > or > lpr -Plp ps-file > > :-) Just in case "lp" is still your default printer queue name (no $PRINTER set to override), -Plp can also be omitted. Useless use of -Plp, because that's the default. :-) When you _can_, set the printer to PS mode. It's the easiest thing. You just need the system's (!) lpr subsystem to feed the PS jobs into the printer. If PS is not possible, use PCL. If you really, REALLY require features of the printer that need to be addressed by the PPD mechanism, use CUPS, even if I can't imagine such features (because gs lets you address things like paper tray preference, duplexer and so on through PCL commands). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 00:52:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0977106566B for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 00:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B8C8FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 00:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so998045yxl.13 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:52:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xZ3zRvynIUvwmI0ifbO2J6/rY0lloX7Xtw7FHmMwGzw=; b=Ru9NPiIu8vElsF0OGN0VzRFRM06NQbF8JIBtrmOR/167Fyrjr9f/TjKpX92NVYEAQ6 /H7e6fDCC3nrfBdPgIx95TBwsDlCZ8BvSyv3gSAPmI2L6bIny63s7SEwhquLeQjOPoSu qZfpDJSAqk41rqDaKnqnGTuNfgxe0oHGLrEDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.156.1 with SMTP id x1mr156890icw.226.1312419127449; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:52:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:52:08 -0000 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Antonio Olivares > wrote: >> Dear folks, >> >> I am sorry to bother you guys, but I need your help. =A0I have a scanner >> HP 3300C scanner that is connected to one of my freebsd 8.2 amd >> machines. >> >> I have done my homework: >> read section scanners on FreeBSD Handbook: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/scanners.html >> >> looked at other threads: >> >> http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D2057&page=3D1 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12037990 >> >> As root user, I can find the device name: >> >> quadcore# sane-find-scanner -q >> found USB scanner (vendor=3D0x03f0 [Hewlett-Packard], product=3D0x0205 [= HP >> ScanJet 3300C]) at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2 >> found USB scanner (vendor=3D0x0bda, product=3D0x8187 [RTL8187_Wireless]) >> at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen3.3 >> >> but as myself(regular user) not :( >> >> [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ sane-find-scanner -q >> [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ >> >> I try to run simplescan -L but can't get it to work. =A0I run xsane and >> it tells me that it can't find devices. =A0I looked in /etc/sane.d/ and >> found hp.conf and edited it to handbook scanners section, see hp.conf >> below: >> >> quadcore# pwd >> /usr/local/etc/sane.d >> quadcore# ls -l >> total 166 >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A025 Aug =A03 17:46 abaton.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A014 Aug =A03 17:46 agfafocus.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A024 Aug =A03 17:46 apple.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A026 Aug =A03 17:46 artec.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A04188 Aug =A03 17:46 artec_eplus48u.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 543 Aug =A03 17:46 avision.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A029 Aug =A03 17:46 bh.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A035 Aug =A03 17:46 canon.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 193 Aug =A03 17:46 canon630u.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A02834 Aug =A03 17:46 canon_dr.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 509 Aug =A03 17:46 cardscan.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A034 Aug =A03 17:46 coolscan.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 754 Aug =A03 17:46 coolscan2.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 754 Aug =A03 17:46 coolscan3.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 984 Aug =A03 17:46 dc210.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 984 Aug =A03 17:46 dc240.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 704 Aug =A03 17:46 dc25.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 492 Aug =A03 17:46 dell1600n_net.conf >> drwxr-xr-x =A02 root =A0wheel =A01536 Aug =A03 17:46 dist >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 682 Aug =A03 17:46 dll.conf >> drwxr-xr-x =A02 root =A0wheel =A0 512 Aug =A03 17:46 dll.d >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A012 Aug =A03 17:46 dmc.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01402 Aug =A03 17:46 epjitsu.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 793 Aug =A03 17:46 epson.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 376 Aug =A03 17:46 epson2.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01679 Aug =A03 17:46 fujitsu.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01157 Aug =A03 17:46 genesys.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A07798 Aug =A03 17:46 gt68xx.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 589 Aug =A03 18:44 hp.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 396 Aug =A03 17:46 hp3900.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A076 Aug =A03 17:46 hp4200.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 238 Aug =A03 17:46 hp5400.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A024 Aug =A03 17:46 hs2p.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A038 Aug =A03 17:46 ibm.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 367 Aug =A03 17:46 kodak.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 113 Aug =A03 17:46 leo.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A096 Aug =A03 17:46 lexmark.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 187 Aug =A03 17:46 ma1509.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 666 Aug =A03 17:46 matsushita.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 268 Aug =A03 17:46 microtek.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 279 Aug =A03 17:46 microtek2.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A02125 Aug =A03 17:46 mustek.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 809 Aug =A03 17:46 mustek_usb.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A013 Aug =A03 17:46 nec.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 573 Aug =A03 17:46 net.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 365 Aug =A03 17:46 p5.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A075 Aug =A03 17:46 pie.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 492 Aug =A03 17:46 pixma.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A04142 Aug =A03 17:46 plustek.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 943 Aug =A03 17:46 plustek_pp.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A029 Aug =A03 17:46 ricoh.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 183 Aug =A03 17:46 rts8891.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A013 Aug =A03 17:46 s9036.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01052 Aug =A03 17:46 saned.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A048 Aug =A03 17:46 sceptre.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01464 Aug =A03 17:46 sharp.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 115 Aug =A03 17:46 sm3840.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A02245 Aug =A03 17:46 snapscan.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A010 Aug =A03 17:46 sp15c.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A02224 Aug =A03 17:46 st400.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 178 Aug =A03 17:46 stv680.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 =A028 Aug =A03 17:46 tamarack.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 355 Aug =A03 17:46 teco1.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 636 Aug =A03 17:46 teco2.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 217 Aug =A03 17:46 teco3.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01807 Aug =A03 17:46 test.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01495 Aug =A03 17:46 u12.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A03094 Aug =A03 17:46 umax.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 386 Aug =A03 17:46 umax1220u.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A01684 Aug =A03 17:46 umax_pp.conf >> -r--r--r-- =A01 root =A0wheel =A0 399 Aug =A03 17:46 xerox_mfp.conf >> quadcore# cat hp.conf >> #scsi HP >> # Uncomment the following if you have "Error during device I/O" on SCSI >> # =A0 option dumb-read >> # >> # The usual place for a SCSI-scanner on Linux >> #/dev/scanner >> # >> # USB-scanners supported by the hp-backend >> # HP ScanJet 4100C >> #usb 0x03f0 0x0101 >> # HP ScanJet 5200C >> #usb 0x03f0 0x0401 >> # HP ScanJet 62X0C >> #usb 0x03f0 0x0201 >> # HP ScanJet 63X0C >> #usb 0x03f0 0x0601 >> # HP ScanJet 3300C 0x03f0 0x0205 =A0at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2 >> usb /dev/uscanner0 >> # >> # Uncomment the following if your scanner is connected by USB, >> # but you are not using libusb >> # /dev/usb/scanner0 >> # =A0 option connect-device >> >> [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ scanimage -L >> >> No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, >> check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the >> sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation >> which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). >> >> I have a file that should help with permissions, but I don't know if >> that could be the cause? >> >> [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/rc.conf >> >> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Jul 26 23:20:43 2011 >> # Created: Tue Jul 26 23:20:43 2011 >> # Enable network daemons for user convenience. >> # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >> # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >> hostname=3D"quadcore.home" >> ifconfig_msk0=3D"DHCP" >> ntpdate_enable=3D"YES" >> ntpdate_hosts=3D"north-america.pool.ntp.org" >> tcp_extensions=3D"NO" >> dbus_enable=3D"YES" >> hald_enable=3D"YES" >> devfs_system_ruleset=3D"Removable_Media" >> lpd_enable=3D"YES" >> ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" >> ipfileter_rules=3D"/etc/ipf.rules" >> ipmon_enable=3D"YES" >> ipmon_flags=3D"-Ds" >> >> >> [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/dev >> devd/ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0devd.conf =A0 =A0devfs.conf =A0 devfs.rules >> [olivares@quadcore /usr/home/olivares]$ cat /etc/devfs.rules >> [Removable Media] >> add path 'ad*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'acd*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'cd*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'pass*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'xpt*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'ugen*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'usb*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'lpt*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'ulpt*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'unlpt*' mode 0666 group operator >> add path 'fd*' mode 0666 group operator >> >> Do I need to add uscanner* to it? =A0or another suggestion. =A0I would >> like for the scanner to work as user. >> Advice/suggestions/comments are welcome and appreciated :) >> >> Regards, >> >> Antonio >> > > Found out some more information > > http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Scanner-Compatibility-td3778260.html > > In above page I found a link to check by vendor: > > http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD > > If found it says complete: > > ScanJet 3300c =A0 USB =A0 =A0 0x03f0/0x0205 =A0 Complete =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0niash > (0.3) =A0 sane-niash > > > It took a great while for this to give me a response > > quadcore# scanimage -L > device `niash:libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2' is a Hewlett-Packard > ScanJet 3300C flatbed scanner > > I have downloaded the backend in case if it is needed here: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/hp3300backend/files/backend/20060304/back= end-20060304.tar.gz/download > > now I don't know how to troubleshoot this. > > Thanks & sorry for replying to my own question(s). > > Regards, > > Antonio > Took a little while but I ran test as suggested in one of the pages quadcore# scanimage -T scanimage: scanning image of size 1240x1712 pixels at 24 bits/pixel scanimage: acquiring RGB frame, 8 bits/sample scanimage: reading one scanline, 3720 bytes... PASS scanimage: reading one byte... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 2 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 4 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 8 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 16 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 32 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 64 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 128 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 256 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 512 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 1024 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 2048 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 4096 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 4095 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 2047 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 1023 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 511 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 255 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 127 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 63 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 31 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 15 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 7 bytes... PASS scanimage: stepped read, 3 bytes... PASS quadcore# This as root though, but as simple user cannot do much :(, again xsane tells me that no devices were found :( Suggestions/Advice/comments are welcome and appreciated. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 02:43:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C21D106566B for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 02:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sulfurfff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E198FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 02:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so3505680pzk.18 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fplTyzrhzT1oTcnzU9GCeRdYJOPdNuTbGIgnAqqhT6Y=; b=r6sDBI936AQKNOd2EXGzmW0RlPZ6ZC4VZWZGCahYMABTXn49ZUbnZQ7eRnXxz/a4dB SoDj/6caPGqHaGnN7BSrOIi9SM31dOIUIiRzTreS6lBUBlUIBLquzdJHweUvEEmSXiL/ Yp1UDg6jx3NlzvSG5jUmk9Ehh8y85pR6yl5gk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.151.6 with SMTP id y6mr201951wfd.441.1312425802889; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.43.33 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:43:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1312414824.2229.122.camel@asus> References: <1312414824.2229.122.camel@asus> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:43:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ismael_Farf=C3=A1n?= To: tomdean@speakeasy.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a more recent version of xorg-server? 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03:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1g.socket.net [216.106.88.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF178FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [216.106.88.17]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 58FCD45952 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 22:02:28 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jhall@socket.net X-Apparently-from: jhall@mail.socket.net X-Remote-Host: 216.106.19.38 User-Agent: Socket WebMail Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:02:28 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20110804031655.E71EB1065670@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Source Upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhall@socket.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:16:56 -0000 I am attempting to upgrade my server from 8.0 to 8.2 Release by upgrading the source code and recompiling the kernel. I am using cvs to download the source code. Following are the entries in my cvs-supfile. The system is an HP server. Following is the system information. FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 *default host=cvsup15.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_2 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default tag=. src-all ports-all The download completes without any errors. The first time I attempted to compile the source code, I assumed I had made a mistake. So, I deleted all of /usr/src and downloaded it again using cvs. When I attempt make buildworld, I still receive the following messages. ===> kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile (all) cd /usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../make-roken && make cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/roken -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../include -std=gnu99 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1/gen.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/roken -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../include -std=gnu99 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1/gen_copy.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/roken -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../include -std=gnu99 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1/gen_decode.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/roken -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../include -std=gnu99 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1/gen_encode.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/roken -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../include -std=gnu99 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1/gen_free.c cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/roken -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../include -std=gnu99 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c gen_glue-fixed.c gen_glue-fixed.c: In function 'generate_2int': gen_glue-fixed.c:55: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type gen_glue-fixed.c:55: error: 'Member' has no member named 'next' gen_glue-fixed.c: In function 'generate_int2': gen_glue-fixed.c:83: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type gen_glue-fixed.c:83: error: 'Member' has no member named 'next' gen_glue-fixed.c: In function 'generate_units': gen_glue-fixed.c:114: error: 'struct memhead' has no member named 'prev' gen_glue-fixed.c:114: error: 'Member' has no member named 'prev' gen_glue-fixed.c: At top level: gen_glue-fixed.c:129: error: conflicting types for 'generate_glue' /usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1/gen_locl.h:65: error: previous declaration of 'generate_glue' was here *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/kerberos5/tools/asn1_compile. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/kerberos5/tools. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. My Googling has not resulted in any results that are helpful. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 03:42:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15831065672 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC178FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C8F6F5C38; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:organization:in-reply-to:content-disposition :content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t=1312428299; x=1314242699; bh=3d6Y6ia9SYXPJcgwnwpvF4kTv6 MCl3vDFfgGcCQjUPk=; b=h+4B7G6LUzV/Q29c590t7XNasMfvr8Pm2kCwcn0/+B 1e9Ju+2PugOD+WyTWUD2swBChDQoB0UcpiGfcgQcedfskjfw2J7ZJdKZgnrCJozl RhA8NDAgxg1CxaOS3DS1+LALtyR1Uwi5HoZvgrQQDXeMXxnhVOJZZK8npxmiDzAg s= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fmgDvVUj4lms; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2458D6F5BF0; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 1915 invoked by uid 1001); Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:24:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:24:16 -0700 From: Jason Helfman To: jhall@socket.net Message-ID: <20110804032416.GA1801@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20110804031655.E71EB1065670@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110804031655.E71EB1065670@hub.freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE Organization: Experts-Exchange, LLC. http://www.experts-exchange.com X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Source Upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:42:18 -0000 On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 10:02:28PM -0500, jhall@socket.net thus spake: >I am attempting to upgrade my server from 8.0 to 8.2 Release by upgrading >the source code and recompiling the kernel. I am using cvs to download >the source code. Following are the entries in my cvs-supfile. > >The system is an HP server. Following is the system information. >FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 > root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > >*default host=cvsup15.us.FreeBSD.org >*default base=/var/db >*default prefix=/usr >*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_2 >*default delete use-rel-suffix >*default tag=. > >src-all >ports-all > Based on this configuration, you grabbed CURRENT, and not 8.2. Have a look here and alter your configuration, and rebuild. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html Hope this helps -jgh -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 03:46:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D74106566B for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurpreet007@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DEE8FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so2170938fxe.13 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:46:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=ygrYu+7eW466eDX0BbETqR2c8pR0OXiQWYD7CZ563qw=; b=j1SLAeBRmt9jzPJatvB6Sufz2FTJB8WPVpDReDjrFmxE4CAi3FssbxZcKap7bTFV6D PfZKC4qAzTuyUG1j+Pg5z35OGytShKIYvHa9k/KgBE7V5mmhu//NIwWtBiYAh6ULUcCJ BxTxh5S7v/ARrCYYV1k/s92xetFdvlHcPr2nM= Received: by 10.204.156.216 with SMTP id y24mr83283bkw.75.1312428028136; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:20:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.203 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:20:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E3936EA.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at> <4E3936EA.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: Gurpreet Singh Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:50:08 +0530 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrades fail because of missing /usr/local/lib/liblzma.la X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:46:39 -0000 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Matthew Seaman < m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > On 03/08/2011 11:00, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > > So here are my questions? > > > > o) Why doesn't the build process of ports recognize the xz-libraries > > in /usr/lib? (BTW, not even "make deinstall && make clean && make > > install" helps) > I am also having same problem. Started a thread in the forum too: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=25449 > You should first get a list of all your installed ports that depend on > archivers/xz (pkg_info -Rx xz), then force delete the archivers/xz port > and then rebuild all the ports that linked against it. > pkg_info is unable to find xz package; "$ pkg_info|grep xz" returns nothing. same for pkg_deinstall sudo pkg_deinstall xz ** No matching package found. If I go to xz's directory in ports (under archivers) and try to do make deinstall: xz$ sudo make deinstall ===> Deinstalling for archivers/xz ===> xz not installed, skipping So this also fails as xz is not installed at all, it is in the base itself. I cannot seem to get around the problem as even after I deinstalled evince and installed xpdf "portmaster -a" is still trying to install evince. Regards, Gurpreet Singh -- ------------------------------------------------------------ A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 03:48:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03763106568A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35128FC1F for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p743miNQ016036; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:48:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p743min7016033; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:48:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:48:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:48:44 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:48:45 -0000 On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > This as root though, but as simple user cannot do much :(, again xsane > tells me that no devices were found :( > > Suggestions/Advice/comments are welcome and appreciated. To hit some relevant points... The uscanner device is gone, no longer needed with FreeBSD-8. devfs.conf hasn't been effective for dynamic devices for me. Copying the clever technique from sysutils/scanbuttond/pkg-message.in, I use devd.conf to detect the scanner attach and detach devices and change permissions and do whatever else is necessary. Scanner users are a member of the saned group. # WB # detect Epson Perfection 1640SU scanner and start scanbuttond attach 20 { device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; match "vendor" "0x04b8"; match "product" "0x010a"; action "usb_devaddr=`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##'` && \ chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ su saned -c '/usr/local/bin/scanbuttond \ -s /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/buttonpressed.sh \ -S /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/initscanner.sh \ -b /usr/local/lib/libscanbtnd-backend_epson.so'"; }; # WB # remove Epson Perfection 1640SU uscanner0 link and stop scanbuttond detach 20 { device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; match "vendor" "0x04b8"; match "product" "0x010a"; action "/usr/bin/pkill scanbuttond"; }; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 04:16:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DFE106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 04:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AE78FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 04:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so2824274iye.17 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:16:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xg+Y/+B67CIrQZ7n7Ddonx7ASe8mDcLVRJHMUVXDJ0U=; b=cJgEj+pTIbc6elAevSvbbxnXuoD3TfNGhoMOTto745PdzALn5RBqBJZLtc78Zx+b63 sq1hW/R6QfzA1Adk5gEF+7rhKJYQBQrbO1ZWgvlEPbJmsci/pKEyH1m68GEVKvFdO9kE ETjUaCKeFJPRTMddUV/ODMB+gMsfWakq3XT0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.134.133 with SMTP id ic5mr298448icc.293.1312431400214; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:16:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:16:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 04:16:41 -0000 Warren, On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> This as root though, but as simple user cannot do much :(, again xsane >> tells me that no devices were found :( >> >> Suggestions/Advice/comments are welcome and appreciated. > > To hit some relevant points... > > The uscanner device is gone, no longer needed with FreeBSD-8. > > devfs.conf hasn't been effective for dynamic devices for me. =A0Copying t= he > clever technique from sysutils/scanbuttond/pkg-message.in, I use devd.con= f > to detect the scanner attach and detach devices and change permissions an= d > do whatever else is necessary. =A0Scanner users are a member of the saned > group. > > # WB > # detect Epson Perfection 1640SU scanner and start scanbuttond > attach 20 { > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0match "vendor" "0x04b8"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0match "product" "0x010a"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0action "usb_devaddr=3D`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##'= ` && \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.*= && \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0su saned -c '/usr/local/bin/scanbuttond \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-s /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/buttonpresse= d.sh \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-S /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/initscanner.= sh \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-b /usr/local/lib/libscanbtnd-backend_epso= n.so'"; > }; > > # WB > # remove Epson Perfection 1640SU uscanner0 link and stop scanbuttond > detach 20 { > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0match "vendor" "0x04b8"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0match "product" "0x010a"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0action "/usr/bin/pkill scanbuttond"; > }; > > Thank you for your message. I have added the following: # AAO # detect HP ScanJet 3300C attach 20 { device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; match "vendor" "0x03f0"; match "product" "0x0205"; action "usb_devaddr=3D`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##'` && \ chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ su saned -c '/usr/local/bin/scanbuttond \ -s /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/buttonpressed.sh \ -S /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/initscanner.sh \ -b /usr/local/lib/libscanbtnd-backend_epson.so'"; }; # AAO # remove HP ScanJet 3300C detach 20 { device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; match "vendor" "0x03f0"; match "product" "0x0205"; action "/usr/bin/pkill scanbuttond"; }; to file /etc/devd.conf and xsane still tells me that I do not have any devi= ces? I restarted devd service # /etc/rc.d/devd restart and I get : quadcore# /etc/rc.d/devd restart devd not running? Starting devd. devd: devd already running, pid: 801 /etc/rc.d/devd: WARNING: failed to start devd I have also added myself to the "saned" group: quadcore# cat /etc/group | grep 'saned' saned:*:194:olivares What else do I need to do? Thank you for your help & suggestions. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 04:49:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D041065672 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 04:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640498FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 04:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so2900915iye.17 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:49:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w5/8lNTOnbB7u3D9Ln/OZWjVxK8lPJ/uICIlitxiB5M=; b=gdWtf+9arrSIBZq3by/fQ7GNKWwhNbQgonjhx8lGUrUFlwPmlFgP/yOPhrKw3zzoLC 8wERNiNJKIkCE+6Sd1okQA1Ip0I80QLyxRAewAWJpC2YCbK0uhKkejHNlAdLX88sFFf6 d3d/F3nk3ni0I92V6Gklohf23pTHshZAhVdrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.146.131 with SMTP id j3mr314700icv.494.1312433351845; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:49:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:49:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 04:49:12 -0000 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Warren, > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >>> This as root though, but as simple user cannot do much :(, again xsane >>> tells me that no devices were found :( >>> >>> Suggestions/Advice/comments are welcome and appreciated. >> >> To hit some relevant points... >> >> The uscanner device is gone, no longer needed with FreeBSD-8. >> >> devfs.conf hasn't been effective for dynamic devices for me. =A0Copying = the >> clever technique from sysutils/scanbuttond/pkg-message.in, I use devd.co= nf >> to detect the scanner attach and detach devices and change permissions a= nd >> do whatever else is necessary. =A0Scanner users are a member of the sane= d >> group. >> >> # WB >> # detect Epson Perfection 1640SU scanner and start scanbuttond >> attach 20 { >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0match "vendor" "0x04b8"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0match "product" "0x010a"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0action "usb_devaddr=3D`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##= '` && \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.= * && \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0su saned -c '/usr/local/bin/scanbuttond \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-s /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/buttonpress= ed.sh \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-S /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/initscanner= .sh \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-b /usr/local/lib/libscanbtnd-backend_eps= on.so'"; >> }; >> >> # WB >> # remove Epson Perfection 1640SU uscanner0 link and stop scanbuttond >> detach 20 { >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0match "vendor" "0x04b8"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0match "product" "0x010a"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0action "/usr/bin/pkill scanbuttond"; >> }; >> >> > > Thank you for your message. =A0I have added the following: > > # AAO > # detect HP ScanJet 3300C > attach 20 { > =A0 =A0 =A0 device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 match "vendor" "0x03f0"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 match "product" "0x0205"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 action "usb_devaddr=3D`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##'` &= & \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* &&= \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 su saned -c '/usr/local/bin/scanbuttond \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -s /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/buttonpressed.s= h \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -S /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/initscanner.sh = \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -b /usr/local/lib/libscanbtnd-backend_epson.s= o'"; > }; > > # AAO > # remove HP ScanJet 3300C > detach 20 { > =A0 =A0 =A0 device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 match "vendor" "0x03f0"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 match "product" "0x0205"; > =A0 =A0 =A0 action "/usr/bin/pkill scanbuttond"; > }; > > > > to file /etc/devd.conf and xsane still tells me that I do not have any de= vices? > > I restarted devd service > # /etc/rc.d/devd restart > and I get : > > quadcore# /etc/rc.d/devd restart > devd not running? > Starting devd. > devd: devd already running, pid: 801 > /etc/rc.d/devd: WARNING: failed to start devd > > I have also added myself to the "saned" group: > > quadcore# cat /etc/group | grep 'saned' > saned:*:194:olivares > > What else do I need to do? > > Thank you for your help & suggestions. > > Regards, > > Antonio > Warren, I have rebooted to see if it* would make a difference, and it worked :) I am happy! Thank you very much for your assistance. Regards, Antonio * made the big difference, scanner was detected by xsane! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 05:09:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDF8106566C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F0E8FC1D for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7459kfU016259; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:09:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7459kGZ016256; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:09:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:09:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:09:46 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:09:47 -0000 On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Thank you for your message. I have added the following: > > # AAO > # detect HP ScanJet 3300C > attach 20 { > device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; > match "vendor" "0x03f0"; > match "product" "0x0205"; > action "usb_devaddr=`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##'` && \ > chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ > chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ > su saned -c '/usr/local/bin/scanbuttond \ > -s /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/buttonpressed.sh \ > -S /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/initscanner.sh \ > -b /usr/local/lib/libscanbtnd-backend_epson.so'"; > }; The last part of the action tries to run scanbuttond when the scanner is turned on. That can be removed if you don't use scanbuttond. action "usb_devaddr=`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##'` && \ chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.*"; > # AAO > # remove HP ScanJet 3300C > detach 20 { > device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; > match "vendor" "0x03f0"; > match "product" "0x0205"; > action "/usr/bin/pkill scanbuttond"; > }; Similarly, the detach isn't needed if you're not running scanbuttond. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 05:22:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928D6106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760198FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32281 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2011 04:56:33 -0000 Received: from 24-113-112-30.wavecable.com (HELO [192.168.2.2]) (tomdean@[24.113.112.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Aug 2011 04:56:32 -0000 From: "Thomas D. Dean" To: Ismael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Farf=E1n?= In-Reply-To: References: <1312414824.2229.122.camel@asus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Home Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:56:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1312433792.2229.124.camel@asus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing a more recent version of xorg-server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tomdean@speakeasy.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:22:40 -0000 On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 19:43 -0700, Ismael Farfán wrote: Look at the keyboard section of 'man Xorg' Does ctrl-alt-keypad-plus change the display? tomdean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 05:26:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DDE106566B for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E67D8FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so2994112iye.17 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:26:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=04n23LICI4pCo5tR2lvAKBt5rQ/a4xFHZf+Ka5RvG4A=; b=M9u/l1XPZ/6LHrGxlwcbKIxPuRJnF679Vp75K4qRzKWDmPb46XLCEwyclxHB2Jho0z OLXyoO0P9IR+dFxJq5i0stDS07PtTqRkiyDHok+y8Dn+EwrFGSuamrSQ5PZzYHL2OWvF VRF4o81e/aAMq/3rG6E9yL6t2MSkqGy7WQb5k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.144.68 with SMTP id a4mr326678icv.427.1312435615700; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 22:26:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 00:26:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:26:56 -0000 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> Thank you for your message. =A0I have added the following: >> >> # AAO >> # detect HP ScanJet 3300C >> attach 20 { >> =A0 =A0 =A0device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0match "vendor" "0x03f0"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0match "product" "0x0205"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0action "usb_devaddr=3D`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##'` &= & \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* &&= \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* && \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0su saned -c '/usr/local/bin/scanbuttond \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-s /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/buttonpressed.s= h \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-S /usr/local/etc/scanbuttond/initscanner.sh = \ >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-b /usr/local/lib/libscanbtnd-backend_epson.s= o'"; >> }; > > The last part of the action tries to run scanbuttond when the scanner is > turned on. =A0That can be removed if you don't use scanbuttond. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 action "usb_devaddr=3D`echo $device-name | sed 's#^ugen##'` &= & \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 chown root:saned /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.* &&= \ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 chmod 0660 /dev/usb/${usb_devaddr}.*"; > >> # AAO >> # remove HP ScanJet 3300C >> detach 20 { >> =A0 =A0 =A0device-name "ugen[0-9].[0-9]"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0match "vendor" "0x03f0"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0match "product" "0x0205"; >> =A0 =A0 =A0action "/usr/bin/pkill scanbuttond"; >> }; > > Similarly, the detach isn't needed if you're not running scanbuttond. > I added scanbuttond from ports to be safe :), I just copied your example (not looking that it was customized for epson :( libscanbtnd-backend_epson.so, but I have removed that and left it as you have suggested :) I was glad that it worked and I did not notice that. The good thing is that it* scanner is working and thanks to your kind example/suggestion. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 06:56:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779961065673 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 06:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C488FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 06:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.99.162] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qorqb-00043b-TM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 08:56:03 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. 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Belgium BE0859635972. abuse-en@netlog.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 06:57:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095261065673 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 06:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreev.peter@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6AF8FC15 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 06:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so1119822gxk.13 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:57:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wviX1SSXoPX+qSbYy6jENTmhPII+5BoN/vtPC4z1fU4=; b=RhKcNRiIv+ImPllcMFRaevmiYsayzg0/RzDYWoO1WebTHEddR/+OfS5bqPzeT5gGwt I8bJa29L941adsSKEsnaExQYmJoor6PRg+/qrrf4MF/QrFFyV1xv6wI1iiCBuU6N45Rv 7WYdROJcnAPx6ayR6ch+7LohHugLfiu8IMpCw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.244.129 with SMTP id lq1mr415082icb.72.1312441061686; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.230.130 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:57:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <12710521121.20110804085648@yandex.ru> References: <959573537.20110803161948@yandex.ru> <12710521121.20110804085648@yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:57:41 +0400 Message-ID: From: Peter Andreev To: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: freebsd ARP problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:57:44 -0000 4 =C1=D7=C7=D5=D3=D4=C1 2011=9A=C7. 9:56 =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=D4=C5=CC= =D8 =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA =CE=C1= =D0=C9=D3=C1=CC: > Hi, Peter. > > GW-77.93.52.9/29 <---------> 77.93.52.10/29-MyServer > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A 00:1b:21:45:d= a:b8 > > I have change LAN and not it is: > GW-77.93.52.9/29 <---------> 77.93.52.10/29-MyServer > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A 00:30:67:5a:4= 4:72 > > ping 77.93.52.9 > ^C > --- 77.93.52.9 ping statistics --- > 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss > > tcpdump -n -i re0 arp > =9A15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) t= ell 77.93.52.9, length 46 > =9A=9A =9A =9A =9A0x0000: =9A001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 =9A.= .!E............ > =9A=9A =9A =9A =9A0x0010: =9A0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 =9A.= ...........M]4. > =9A=9A =9A =9A =9A0x0020: =9A001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 =9A.= .!E..M]4....... > =9A=9A =9A =9A =9A0x0030: =9A0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 =9A =9A =9A = =9A =9A =9A............ > > 77.93.52.9 thinks that 77.93.52.10 have old MAC 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 > Why freebsd do not answer for 'who-has' packet? What says arp -a on 77.93.52.9? Did you try ping 77.93.52.10 from 77.93.52.= 9? > > > PA> Eugenie > > PA> I didn't understand your question, so I ask you for some clarificatio= n. > PA> 3 =C1=D7=C7=D5=D3=D4=C1 2011=9A=C7. 17:19 =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=D4= =C5=CC=D8 =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA > PA> =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC: >>> Hi, all. >>> >>> I delete IP address from one server and add it to this one. > PA> You moved IP address from one server to second one. Right? > >>> But connection is not up, because of remote server (77.93.52.9) >>> ask IP and notice MAC in whe-has frame. > PA> Are you trying to connect from second server to third one? > PA> Whose ip address is 77.93.52.9? >>> >>> 15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) te= ll 77.93.52.9, length 46 >>> =9A =9A =9A =9A0x0000: =9A001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 =9A..= !E............ >>> =9A =9A =9A =9A0x0010: =9A0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 =9A..= ..........M]4. >>> =9A =9A =9A =9A0x0020: =9A001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 =9A..= !E..M]4....... >>> =9A =9A =9A =9A0x0030: =9A0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 =9A =9A =9A =9A= =9A =9A............ >>> >>> Must freebsd replay to this who-has packet with >>> ARP, Reply 77.93.52.10 is at .... >>> =9Aor it must it ignore, becase of 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 is not its MAC add= ress? > PA> Are these servers in different network segments? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, >>> =9A=EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A = =9A =9Amailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >>> > > > > > > > -- > =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, > =9A=EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A = =9Amailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru > > --=20 -- AP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 07:30:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651481065673 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 07:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B52688FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 07:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Aug 2011 07:30:42 -0000 Received: from dslb-092-076-090-105.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO michael-think) [92.76.90.105] by mail.gmx.net (mp055) with SMTP; 04 Aug 2011 09:30:42 +0200 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18jurRNaeQjNsE56R2+m+DCvKEDB7QvEwVZXCykiz KerTksYU8HRtdF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Matthias Apitz" References: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:30:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.50 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: semi-OT: Looking for a hosting provider w/ FreeBSD root-servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 07:30:44 -0000 Am 04.08.2011, 08:56 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Apitz : > > Hello, > > I have to change my hosting provider, because the actual one does > not want to fullfill my needs. I'm looking for a provider offering > FreeBSD root-servers, best in Europe. Any pointers are wellcome. > Thanks > > matthias http://www.hetzner.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 07:31:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E85106566C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 07:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCFC8FC1B for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 07:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-103-124.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.103.124]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D96C240D4; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:31:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p747VGd3003057; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:31:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:31:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Apitz Message-Id: <20110804093115.e8534e03.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> References: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-OT: Looking for a hosting provider w/ FreeBSD root-servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 07:31:19 -0000 On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:56:08 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I have to change my hosting provider, because the actual one does > not want to fullfill my needs. I'm looking for a provider offering > FreeBSD root-servers, best in Europe. Any pointers are wellcome. How about Hetzner? They support FreeBSD and also offer root servers. http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ Check out the "Dedicated Server" offers on the left of the page. Something you're searching for? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 09:29:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA50106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from myself@rdtan.net) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3918FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so4640299pzk.18 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.150.18 with SMTP id x18mr553267wfd.304.1312448492356; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xhost.local ([211.24.220.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a5sm674058pbe.30.2011.08.04.02.01.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E3A5FE9.7030505@rdtan.net> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:01:29 +0800 From: Edward User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> In-Reply-To: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-OT: Looking for a hosting provider w/ FreeBSD root-servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:29:17 -0000 On 8/4/11 2:56 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I have to change my hosting provider, because the actual one does > not want to fullfill my needs. I'm looking for a provider offering > FreeBSD root-servers, best in Europe. Any pointers are wellcome. > Thanks > > matthias Matthias, The ARP Network does a good job with FreeBSD. Have been a happy customer since moving here. :) http://arpnetworks.com/vps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 10:06:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1364D106566C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmkaplan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2A48FC15 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so1262599qwc.13 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:06:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=REHAE6J6SWpBpbWuGyxaMt8Y4SJ1lNz2zx9pdkbo0tQ=; b=ZzNotUCSIbaaGrzaQcrS9IU8XmaZETkaLvj0V668w+76E97cMOaBNYojUfudhlFBPX mS0rPYeUKaYmclhdkzFPRhxpgRBNkCGSHcAFwrlDuBhudne/LtCzQVE2czYw6iAUaQ9W WqKqOnefkG+eJ4S7LCwUrE5XGcGamVk2aHYNI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.44.131 with SMTP id a3mr426356qcf.80.1312450672140; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kmkaplan@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.181.68 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 02:37:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> References: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:37:52 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ri7goH8dtQQOSt86n-DNsmED3ps Message-ID: From: Kim Minh Kaplan To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-OT: Looking for a hosting provider w/ FreeBSD root-servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:06:31 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > I'm looking for a provider offering > FreeBSD root-servers, best in Europe. Any pointers are wellcome. http://www.isgenug.de/ http://www.ovh.de/items/distributionen/free_bsd.xml -- Kim Minh. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 05:56:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10987106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward9.mail.yandex.net (forward9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EDB8FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (smtp6.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.56]) by forward9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5B6EECE0F68; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:56:49 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1312437409; bh=srzcS6hnoRhI0wXg9h82bBw24Y0qoqwFr6zdSf2Tm3k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FO0YyF3qzF6WPVa/qRpXfM0aYvEnfvAPEI5t8B7f7EbASdnVD7rZYBAdIVw7tXTSW 5VPhZtzGa5HNwaNj++m08noEGHjGGgCxYtA8+O6FATmoC68lIGhKNdVeodk35RUFNu YhayILqwjEqKQmQmrQMA04NmSrK/ZUbZJMp78ZkM= Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4831613202E0; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:56:49 +0400 (MSD) Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id umb8I1l8; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:56:49 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:56:48 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12710521121.20110804085648@yandex.ru> To: Peter Andreev In-Reply-To: References: <959573537.20110803161948@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:32:13 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: freebsd ARP problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:56:52 -0000 Hi, Peter. GW-77.93.52.9/29 <---------> 77.93.52.10/29-MyServer 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 I have change LAN and not it is: GW-77.93.52.9/29 <---------> 77.93.52.10/29-MyServer 00:30:67:5a:44:72 ping 77.93.52.9 ^C --- 77.93.52.9 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss tcpdump -n -i re0 arp 15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) tell 77.93.52.9, length 46 š š š š0x0000: š001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 š..!E............ š š š š0x0010: š0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 š............M]4. š š š š0x0020: š001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 š..!E..M]4....... š š š š0x0030: š0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 š š š š š š............ 77.93.52.9 thinks that 77.93.52.10 have old MAC 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 Why freebsd do not answer for 'who-has' packet? PA> Eugenie PA> I didn't understand your question, so I ask you for some clarification. PA> 3 Á×ÇÕÓÔÁ 2011šÇ. 17:19 ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØ ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ PA> ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: >> Hi, all. >> >> I delete IP address from one server and add it to this one. PA> You moved IP address from one server to second one. Right? >> But connection is not up, because of remote server (77.93.52.9) >> ask IP and notice MAC in whe-has frame. PA> Are you trying to connect from second server to third one? PA> Whose ip address is 77.93.52.9? >> >> 15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) tell 77.93.52.9, length 46 >> š š š š0x0000: š001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 š..!E............ >> š š š š0x0010: š0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 š............M]4. >> š š š š0x0020: š001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 š..!E..M]4....... >> š š š š0x0030: š0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 š š š š š š............ >> >> Must freebsd replay to this who-has packet with >> ARP, Reply 77.93.52.10 is at .... >> šor it must it ignore, becase of 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 is not its MAC address? PA> Are these servers in different network segments? >> >> >> -- >> ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, >> šëÏÎØËÏ× š š š š š š š š š š š š šmailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ëÏÎØËÏ× mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 10:33:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDEB1065675 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1B38FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5314450A52 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:33:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (techunter.webrz.net [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3877050967 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:33:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E3A7575.8060901@webrz.net> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:33:25 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: Subject: Named | Annoying behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:33:15 -0000 Dear group, I latety face an issue with BIND 9.4.-ESV-R4-P1. According to my log file, I get the following error: Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: starting BIND 9.4.-ESV-R4-P1 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf -t /var/named -u bind Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: command channel listening on ::1#953 Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: _the working directory is not writable_ Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: running I tried to chmod w+g the respecive directory, but it is set to default again by bind itself. Can someone tell me how I can resolve the +w on the working directory? BR, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 11:34:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186401065675 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B3E8FC20 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p74BYiR7005987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:34:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p74BYiR7005987 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1312457684; bh=WA23hDl6NbXD65aSHh+GbsYSXOQPrVHQT9iLnpMLwDg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E3A83CB.8020009@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2004=20Aug=202011=2012:34:35=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/201 10624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Jos=20Chrispijn= 20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:= 20Re:=20Named=20|=20Annoying=20behaviour|References:=20<4E3A7575.8 060901@webrz.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4E3A7575.8060901@webrz.net>|X-En igmail-Version:=201.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20mul tipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applic ation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigD82CD9 14B8705608F7F19509"; b=yKo+nRA2Y0a5IvVkbFknDkb5Xu9k1+6RE6HCByFp62/RNU3ufOiClhoo11xfq4jTe rUm4AItfZI/prC0+/6+1gfJlwr98iKBi9QOrBi8NfWLbJ96hDqkJW/sUCZDpt7F/8e 6xa7VzNewLBrCNSNSR8eVlTe8hWNbo8H82mP58L8= Message-ID: <4E3A83CB.8020009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:34:35 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <4E3A7575.8060901@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <4E3A7575.8060901@webrz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD82CD914B8705608F7F19509" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Named | Annoying behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:34:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD82CD914B8705608F7F19509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable on 04/08/2011 11:33, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > I latety face an issue with BIND 9.4.-ESV-R4-P1. I deduce that you are running FreeBSD 7.x .... > According to my log file, I get the following error: > Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: starting BIND 9.4.-ESV-R4-P1 -c > /etc/namedb/named.conf -t /var/named -u bind > Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: command channel listening on > 127.0.0.1#953 > Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: command channel listening on ::1#9= 53 > Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: _the working directory is not > writable_ > Aug 4 12:00:03 triton named[93266]: running >=20 > I tried to chmod w+g the respecive directory, but it is set to default > again by bind itself. > Can someone tell me how I can resolve the +w on the working directory? By default, the permissions on and location of Bind's working directory should be: % ls -lad /etc/namedb/working drwxr-xr-x 2 bind wheel 6 Aug 4 11:26 /etc/namedb/working/ Now, as you're clearly running named under the bind user ID, this suggests that perhaps you have some other directory defined as your working directory in named.conf Check the 'directory' setting in the options {}; block. The location of the working directory was changed not so long ago -- http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/namedb/named.conf#rev1.30 -- due to the requirement for named to track various data to do with DNSSEC. Previously, the working directory was /etc/namedb but simply making this writable by named would have meant a process with the credentials that named runs as could re-write named's configuration file; an unacceptable security risk for a daemon exposed to the internet.= One unfortunate consequence is that any relative paths within named.conf have to be altered accordingly. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD82CD914B8705608F7F19509 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAk46g9MACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxbeQCeIjglmbZyLzjbZAY8hewWXkDW W8EAmIQRL1JPC6sCiUCMI1O6SywVxp8= =5YHN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD82CD914B8705608F7F19509-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 12:23:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B07A1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DE08FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815D050A52; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (techunter.webrz.net [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 349F050967; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E3A8F53.5000407@webrz.net> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:23:47 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4E3A7575.8060901@webrz.net> <4E3A83CB.8020009@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E3A83CB.8020009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Named | Annoying behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:23:36 -0000 Matthew Seaman: > One unfortunate consequence is that any relative paths within named.conf > have to be altered accordingly. Thanks for your detailed explanation, I will follow up and let you know if I managed to solve it. BR Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 12:44:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDF0106566C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=190fc5bff=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8F58FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchh2.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.21]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 04 Aug 2011 14:14:40 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by exchh2.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.61) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:14:39 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p74CEdUn092727; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:14:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p74CEdgw092726; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:14:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:14:39 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20110804121439.GA2370@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at> <4E3936EA.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E3936EA.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrades fail because of missing /usr/local/lib/liblzma.la X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:44:08 -0000 Hi Matthew, Unfortunately this doesn't work as expected: # pkg_info -Rx xz Information for xz-5.0.3: # so it seems like nothing depens on xz. Next, I did a fresh cvsup for the ports-tree followed by a "pkgdb -L"; then again "pkg_info -Rx xz" - again nothing seems to depend on xz. So I tried "portupgrade -arR" again - sure enough it failed with the same errors: /usr/local/lib/liblzma.la: No such file or directory So how can I rebuild all ports that depend on "xz" without even knowing which ones depend on xz (because pkg_info -Rx says nothing depends on xz)?? Puzzled... :-|. Thanks much in advance for your help! -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 14:31:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC4F106567D for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1g.socket.net [216.106.88.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26278FC1F for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [216.106.88.17]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 997AC40424; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:31:57 -0500 (CDT) To: jhelfman@e-e.com From: jhall@socket.net X-Apparently-from: jhall@mail.socket.net X-Remote-Host: 216.106.19.38 User-Agent: Socket WebMail References: <20110804031655.E71EB1065670@hub.freebsd.org> <20110804032416.GA1801@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:31:57 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20110804143158.DEC4F106567D@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Source Upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhall@socket.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:31:58 -0000 > Based on this configuration, you grabbed CURRENT, and not 8.2. > > Have a look here and alter your configuration, and rebuild. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > Hope this helps > -jgh > THANK YOU! I don't know how long I had looked at that and did not see the default tag=. Removing that fixed the problem. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 14:52:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEF4106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE2B8FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emphyrio.blackend.org (unknown [88.179.1.53]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7628A8226A; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:52:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from emphyrio.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by emphyrio.blackend.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p74EsBjZ095912; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:54:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@emphyrio.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by emphyrio.blackend.org (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id p74EsBKa095748; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:54:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:54:11 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110804145411.GB4434@emphyrio.blackend.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:52:52 -0000 On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 12:26:55AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > [...] > > I added scanbuttond from ports to be safe :), I just copied your > example (not looking that it was customized for epson :( > libscanbtnd-backend_epson.so, but I have removed that and left it as > you have suggested :) I was glad that it worked and I did not notice > that. The good thing is that it* scanner is working and thanks to > your kind example/suggestion. > I'm curious, what is the output of the id(1) command as olivares? -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 15:38:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B79106566C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA408FC19 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yic13 with SMTP id 13so1438101yic.13 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 08:38:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s5VXJaIT1geKfUhdlwkhP4WAcNQldnpVxE8FbVqwL4A=; b=wOMkKOYMbTMSglSXDGWXIv10lXHGZot4gjd/X6LDmRwZpNdZ53PfJkoR5+vsrKPNRl xZDlIh2nWyMpOQh5c/NHwPiQRr0SR1viZd/M9PtRRcTFtPuRjTsobcMcH+gXa6qh4GI3 Mm1du/LabVCFFMRu+rl4uFkOhQI0CoZlzPGgs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.144.68 with SMTP id a4mr800869icv.427.1312472307686; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 08:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:38:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110804145411.GB4434@emphyrio.blackend.org> References: <20110804145411.GB4434@emphyrio.blackend.org> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:38:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Marc Fonvieille Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:38:28 -0000 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Marc Fonvieille wrot= e: > On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 12:26:55AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> > [...] >> >> I added scanbuttond from ports to be safe :), I just copied your >> example (not looking that it was customized for epson :( >> libscanbtnd-backend_epson.so, but I have removed that and left it as >> you have suggested :) =A0I was glad that it worked and I did not notice >> that. =A0 The good thing is that it* scanner is working and thanks to >> your kind example/suggestion. >> > > I'm curious, what is the output of the id(1) command as olivares? > > -- > Marc > [olivares@quadcore ~]$ whoami olivares [olivares@quadcore ~]$ id uid=3D1001(olivares) gid=3D1001(olivares) groups=3D1001(olivares),0(wheel),5(operator),194(saned) Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 16:47:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E06C106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC53E8FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p74GlHQ4010195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:47:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p74GlHQ4010195 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1312476438; bh=iwN54Blv0rrtSwiCo/rUDldtEcOV8Ukf5NJeImNe/w8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E3ACD06.6090209@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2004=20Aug=202011=2017:47:02=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:5.0)=20Gecko/201 10624=20Thunderbird/5.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ewald=20Jenisch= 20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re :=20portupgrades=20fail=20because=20of=20missing=20/usr/local/lib/ liblzma.la|References:=20<20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at >=20<4E3936EA.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20<20110804121439.GA 2370@aurora.oekb.co.at>|In-Reply-To:=20<20110804121439.GA2370@auro ra.oekb.co.at>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C| Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=2 0protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"--- ---------enig30AA8A776B258AF16E078A17"; b=iyYoC2sJ9SvqUbU1sxoDWEYznaUWhakOWE7qRgumbj8cD4vJ/YsVClPtTDidId3cU XoiACwo7BUDdWl67psjEMjyeSyN4CE+SEtQ54zkprKr0G4C5c2VpkVr6VKUzBMjfh1 Qc00vHkNFHMwIUG0QDmWbLeXVb9gGbnJO//0aEHw= Message-ID: <4E3ACD06.6090209@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:47:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <20110803100015.GA11662@aurora.oekb.co.at> <4E3936EA.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110804121439.GA2370@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20110804121439.GA2370@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig30AA8A776B258AF16E078A17" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrades fail because of missing /usr/local/lib/liblzma.la X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:47:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig30AA8A776B258AF16E078A17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/08/2011 13:14, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > So I tried "portupgrade -arR" again - sure enough it failed with the > same errors: >=20 > /usr/local/lib/liblzma.la: No such file or directory >=20 > So how can I rebuild all ports that depend on "xz" without even > knowing which ones depend on xz (because pkg_info -Rx says nothing > depends on xz)?? Do you know which port is causing that error message to be emitted? If you can identify it, then a little sleuthing in the ports it depends on may well turn up some clues. It's a matter of looking at the Makefiles for the ports further up the dependency tree to see if they would have a dependency on xz(1) or liblzma in older versions of FreeBSD; try grepping Makefiles for 'DEPENDS.*/archivers/xz' Then try rebuilding those ports, and so on up the dependency tree until you get to the problem port. Or you can sledgehammer it, by forcibly rebuilding everything that the complaining port depends on -- portupgrade -fR portname (IIRC. I may have mixed up the 'r' and 'R' flags there) or portmaster -f portname That could take a lot of time and CPU cycles but it will probably sort things out in the end. Also, what do you get from this command: % ldconfig -r | grep lzma 38:-llzma.5 =3D> /usr/lib/liblzma.so.5 Unless the output is similar to as shown, you've got a stray copy of liblzma.so floating about that may be confusing things. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig30AA8A776B258AF16E078A17 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk46zRQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwgLgCeKcBvgB9iFLw1ElyX6T61E3nJ FdsAn1bTa6lR7JuWiuj0omCXk0tnoGs9 =/8qT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig30AA8A776B258AF16E078A17-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 17:23:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7D4106566C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466BC8FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so642885iye.17 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:23:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.117.66 with SMTP id p2mr368425ibq.95.1312478584434; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.30.136 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:23:04 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JmoDMH1kbn1GEtVy-MvpzaDw3oI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Why does Perl ExtUtils::MakeMaker install hang on FBSD Jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:23:05 -0000 Hi, This post is related to this Perlmonks discussion: http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=918414 But this particular post has to do with the FBSD part of the thread.... The MakeMaker build hangs in the test: INSTALL_BASE.t In this line, it never seems to return from the run() sub: my $install_out = run("$make install"); If you eliminate this test, everything else works fine and you can carry on with your business. The modules builds fine in the root server where the jails are derived from so I'm guessing it has to do with the way Jails handles that particular make install of Big-Dummy. This is because I've tried to debug this and run() works correctly several times before this line. So it is *very* wierd. But I can't be the only person using the CPAN shell on an Jail ! Thanks -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 17:31:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEB1106567C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8974A8FC1F for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emphyrio.blackend.org (unknown [88.179.1.53]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF6D82258; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:31:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from emphyrio.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by emphyrio.blackend.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p74HWWoJ094254; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:32:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@emphyrio.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by emphyrio.blackend.org (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id p74HWWKK094253; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:32:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:32:31 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110804173231.GC4434@emphyrio.blackend.org> References: <20110804145411.GB4434@emphyrio.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: help setup an HP 3300C scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:31:12 -0000 On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:38:27AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > > > I'm curious, what is the output of the id(1) command as olivares? > > > > -- > > Marc > > > > [olivares@quadcore ~]$ whoami > olivares > [olivares@quadcore ~]$ id > uid=1001(olivares) gid=1001(olivares) > groups=1001(olivares),0(wheel),5(operator),194(saned) > Ok, thanks. I'm a bit puzzled about the reasons why the scanner wasn't seen. Hmm in devfs.rules: [Removable Media] should be [Removable_Media=10], I think, to match your rc.conf -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 17:48:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95299106566C for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sulfurfff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C518FC15 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so1534141yxl.13 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:48:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cUkZjoMcEWzAZmWbgDRiyCwWz5ROP8WPM7gwqK8wCro=; b=PdQcAfoF/pZXWbqMcecl55Md9X8UMUk5dq4q30iahIbkosc8foBCCJTU3XAl3s9YIB UgwjCTPo16Rq4L5zP9W37aIMY0t+QBfp19JpePC4jzAnG9dJCTz8suZQ0IDX4Ks6BFX1 20pfmOcJeavOT7Va7tt1dkl3Th1Kpk9A7hQuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.128.5 with SMTP id a5mr320404wfd.384.1312480125129; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.43.33 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:48:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1312433792.2229.124.camel@asus> References: <1312414824.2229.122.camel@asus> <1312433792.2229.124.camel@asus> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:48:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ismael_Farf=C3=A1n?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Installing a more recent version of xorg-server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:48:46 -0000 2011/8/3 Thomas D. Dean : > On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 19:43 -0700, Ismael Farf=C3=A1n wrote: > > Look at the keyboard section of 'man Xorg' > > Does ctrl-alt-keypad-plus change the display? > > tomdean > > Hi I forgot to enable hald and dbus, that's why the keyboard and mouse didn't work... sorry about that. Now I'm working at 1024x768 (II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1600x900" (no mode of this name) I'll try to upgrade only the intel video driver instead of the whole xorg-server, if successful hopefully I'll get a little HW acceleration too, any help on that is welcome : ) Regards --=20 [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D] How do you create an operating system on Linux Ubuntu 9.10? Y luego que por qu=C3=A9 no me gusta usar Ubuntu... [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 18:21:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940B5106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from mail.mroute.net (lax-gw08.mailroute.net [199.89.0.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF088FC15 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lax-gw08.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E22299FD4; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:21:52 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by lax-gw08.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4564299FBA; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:21:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 87B6B3C42; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:21:51 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Matthias Apitz References: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.10.15; tzolkin = 6 Men; haab = 3 Yaxkin Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:21:51 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20110804065608.GA1070@tiny> (Matthias Apitz's message of "Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:56:08 +0200") Message-ID: <86zkjp9gw0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-OT: Looking for a hosting provider w/ FreeBSD root-servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:21:54 -0000 >>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Apitz writes: Matthias> I have to change my hosting provider, because the actual one does Matthias> not want to fullfill my needs. I'm looking for a provider offering Matthias> FreeBSD root-servers, best in Europe. Any pointers are Matthias> wellcome. If you don't mind the USA, I highly recommend arpnetworks.com, having been a happy customer with multiple live e-commerce boxes for 18 months. If you insist on Europe, I'm also a customer of ElasticHosts, and they seem to be decent at a similar pricepoint. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 18:34:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9137106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8410C8FC14 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp2kO-0005go-VF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:34:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:34:20 -0700 (PDT) From: timp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1312482860962-4667459.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1312482366944-4667421.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <4D8EC168.7060905@rawbw.com> <1312482366944-4667421.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ipmi is broken? (ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:34:21 -0000 Do you really know that your server have IPMI? As I can see via google, IBM eserver 325 doesn't have IPMI devices out of the box. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ipmi-is-broken-ppc0-cannot-reserve-I-O-port-range-tp4266087p4667459.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 18:42:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E364106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnavaza@hotmail.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9578FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp2cQ-0004yx-Ui for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:26:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:26:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Fravadona To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1312482366944-4667421.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4D8EC168.7060905@rawbw.com> References: <4D8EC168.7060905@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:52:42 +0000 Subject: Re: ipmi is broken? (ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:42:13 -0000 Got the same problem on an IBM eserver 325. FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 Generic seems to crash the BMC ... -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ipmi-is-broken-ppc0-cannot-reserve-I-O-port-range-tp4266087p4667421.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 19:42:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611AB1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23818FC15 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110804194239.SLRL3919.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:42:39 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.25]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id GKif1h0020YnB6A02KifeH; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:42:39 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4E3AF62F.007B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=mwl0/2xM3ubHJTXa6l4kGPt5l4r2ytuQtfJUKIGJKFg= c=1 sm=1 a=UyqqhGS-yyIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=2vO5UZG1h46htWAnE/rx2g==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=NGzGBs2eYYQ1Z2exf8AA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=2vO5UZG1h46htWAnE/rx2g==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:42:37 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20110804194237.49cf36d9@serene.no-ip.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Progress! (was Re: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:42:41 -0000 Well, I'm very pleased to report that I now have a successful install of FreeBSD up and running! Finally! Don't know why I didn't think of it sooner, but I decided to try installing on an external USB drive I have here, and it worked just fine. Got X configured and running and everything. I am pleased. :-) Thanks to everyone for all the helpful suggestions. I'm still going to work on installing on my main drive, of course. But at least now I can dump Linux altogether and still have a working FreeBSD. Goodbye and good riddance, Linux! :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 21:29:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E10A106564A for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 21:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9348FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 21:29:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p74LTNNq063321; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:29:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B4860BAB3; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:29:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:29:23 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Chris Whitehouse Message-ID: <20110804212923.GA15233@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:29:56 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 05:41:44PM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi, >=20 > before I use up too many trees experimenting, could some kind soul tell= =20 > me how I can get OpenOffice to print to this printer. This is the first= =20 > time I have tried to get anything printed from FreeBSD. >=20 > I'm following the handbook. I think the basic setup is ok, I can get=20 > text printed using eg > # lptest 20 5 | lpr -Plp >=20 > If I try to print the postscript program given in the handbook > %!PS > 100 100 moveto 300 300 lineto stroke > 310 310 moveto /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont > (Is this thing working?) show > showpage >=20 > # cat |lpr -Plp >=20 > I get the whole text of the file not just "Is this thing working?". >=20 > The printer has various emulations, it is set to PCL 6 and I can't=20 > change it (not my printer) That is a pity. Just so you know, if you'd be able to switch it to PostScri= pt (of which it seems capable) you'd be more or less done. > Printing from OpenOffice just produces screeds of garbage, starting with= =20 > %!PS so I presume the text of the postscript that OO has produced. Yes. > The bit I'm stuck on is in section 9.4.1.3 Simulating PostScript on Non= =20 > PostScript Printers (which I presume is what I need), specifically=20 > setting the device. gs -h doesn't show this printer or any Kyocera=20 > printer. So either what should I set Device to, or how do I get=20 > ghostscript to know about this printer? There are several possible drivers you could use; pcl3 pxlmono pxlcolor. The gutenprint (a.k.a. gimp-print) driver also supports your printer direct= ly. I would start with the pcl3 driver if you want to go with the standard lpd. However, I'd recommend that you take the time and install and configure CUPS.=20 > I'm using 8.1-RELEASE, openoffice.org-3.2.1, ghostscript8-8.71_6 Do you know that ghostscript9 is in ports? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk47DzMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVSBQCfXPw0XewWYfetQjYemzi5b4ya d2gAniSS2S/ZhHW6vyx8gy0wqMQ2shJT =sk8P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 4 19:45:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9648B1065675 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward16.mail.yandex.net (forward16.mail.yandex.net [95.108.253.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255758FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (smtp16.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.16]) by forward16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 29F58D42841; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:45:52 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1312487152; bh=fK5CrKMlXi/TPX22SdcEqpWnXUk7/KoCV1n4XVMkSrk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cg/I5WUCsb+dlbhIk+GXS5D2LO6K6yL+LEUmK8b9alH9mqnhIzZ+E9nFU17pMJn+2 wKbGWbu+nuriyD04XK13OFmI+UHb6p/CmmoJICACz9Yms5DTkbZLpWvZim3Lk27pp6 Bj+Snjlj4DgNmV++7F6nwWvyhEIblBQXzHRsFYwE= Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 15F846A02FA; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:45:52 +0400 (MSD) Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id jpNS6nRK; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:45:51 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 22:45:51 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1711433290.20110804224551@yandex.ru> To: Peter Andreev In-Reply-To: References: <959573537.20110803161948@yandex.ru> <12710521121.20110804085648@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:17:01 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[4]: freebsd ARP problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:45:54 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Peter. ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 4 Á×ÇÕÓÔÁ 2011 Ç., 9:57:41: PA> 4 Á×ÇÕÓÔÁ 2011šÇ. 9:56 ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØ ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: >> Hi, Peter. >> >> GW-77.93.52.9/29 <---------> 77.93.52.10/29-MyServer >> š š š š š š š š š š š š š š š 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 >> >> I have change LAN and not it is: >> GW-77.93.52.9/29 <---------> 77.93.52.10/29-MyServer >> š š š š š š š š š š š š š š š 00:30:67:5a:44:72 >> >> ping 77.93.52.9 >> ^C >> --- 77.93.52.9 ping statistics --- >> 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss >> >> tcpdump -n -i re0 arp >> š15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) tell 77.93.52.9, length 46 >> šš š š š0x0000: š001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 š..!E............ >> šš š š š0x0010: š0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 š............M]4. >> šš š š š0x0020: š001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 š..!E..M]4....... >> šš š š š0x0030: š0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 š š š š š š............ >> >> 77.93.52.9 thinks that 77.93.52.10 have old MAC 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 >> Why freebsd do not answer for 'who-has' packet? PA> What says arp -a on 77.93.52.9? Did you try ping 77.93.52.10 from 77.93.52.9? I do not know. That is not mine server and I have no access to it. When admin of that server try to ping mine 77.93.52.10 I see š15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) tell 77.93.52.9, length 46 šš š š š0x0000: š001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 š..!E............ šš š š š0x0010: š0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 š............M]4. šš š š š0x0020: š001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 š..!E..M]4....... šš š š š0x0030: š0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 š š š š š š............ packets on interface with 77.93.52.10 address >> >> >> PA> Eugenie >> >> PA> I didn't understand your question, so I ask you for some clarification. >> PA> 3 Á×ÇÕÓÔÁ 2011šÇ. 17:19 ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØ ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ >> PA> ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: >>>> Hi, all. >>>> >>>> I delete IP address from one server and add it to this one. >> PA> You moved IP address from one server to second one. Right? >> >>>> But connection is not up, because of remote server (77.93.52.9) >>>> ask IP and notice MAC in whe-has frame. >> PA> Are you trying to connect from second server to third one? >> PA> Whose ip address is 77.93.52.9? >>>> >>>> 15:39:46.540277 ARP, Request who-has 77.93.52.10 (00:1b:21:45:da:b8) tell 77.93.52.9, length 46 >>>> š š š š0x0000: š001b 2145 dab8 0006 d602 e0c0 0806 0001 š..!E............ >>>> š š š š0x0010: š0800 0604 0001 0006 d602 e0c0 4d5d 3409 š............M]4. >>>> š š š š0x0020: š001b 2145 dab8 4d5d 340a 0000 0000 0000 š..!E..M]4....... >>>> š š š š0x0030: š0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 š š š š š š............ >>>> >>>> Must freebsd replay to this who-has packet with >>>> ARP, Reply 77.93.52.10 is at .... >>>> šor it must it ignore, becase of 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 is not its MAC address? >> PA> Are these servers in different network segments? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, >>>> šëÏÎØËÏ× š š š š š š š š š š š š šmailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, >> šëÏÎØËÏ× š š š š š š š š š š š š šmailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru >> >> -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ëÏÎØËÏ× mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 00:35:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBAE106573F for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 00:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965C08FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 00:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so1341684iye.17 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/Bo570UgqGkpqZCOLxmOdN1wTSjNqMqd7BLk5BqxzMI=; b=Y1RdenziK7YIFqRoRXYlFKxPg2gsQoKyTO0H7zJSybEVT0n2r5nomTwkik+c5EJwjj x/EeVsdNWmdcjwz6fWu2XGNjOOMz0kcB+s8BbIHwSGrEzMvvAWtShn3rrhT/ymNwF6Zw JXLj/EnWYZ0dLXoYnce5/NsEH3sNiAENVch2A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.29.129 with SMTP id r1mr1175209icc.360.1312504530140; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:35:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 => updating gtk to latest on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 00:35:32 -0000 Dear folks, In an effort to keep up to date, I checked updates that are available and tried to apply them. Encountered a problem with gtk : /* Commands run */ quadcore# . Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date. ===>>> New version available: gtk-2.24.5_1 ===>>> 537 total installed ports ===>>> 1 has a new version available ran # portmaster -a ********* removed to save space ********** ual-x11.c x11/gdkwindow-x11.c x11/gdkxftdefaults.c x11/gdkxid.c x11/xsettings-client.c x11/xsettings-common.c libgdk-x11-2.0.la Makefile --output Gdk-2.0.gir /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner: not found gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gdk' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gdk' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gdk' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. ===>>> make failed for x11-toolkits/gtk20 ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for x11-toolkits/gtk20 failed ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> The following actions were performed: Upgrade of figlet-2.2.1 to figlet-2.2.4 ===>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command line: portmaster x11-toolkits/gtk20 quadcore# grep python /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner #!/usr/local/bin/python2.6 quadcore# ls -al /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1472 Jul 30 12:29 /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner Thanks for suggestions/advice/comments. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 00:58:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3AC106566B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 00:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386228FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 00:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p750wEuf019911; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:58:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p750wD6j019908; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:58:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:58:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20110804212923.GA15233@slackbox.erewhon.net> Message-ID: References: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> <20110804212923.GA15233@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:58:14 -0600 (MDT) Cc: User Questions , Chris Whitehouse Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 00:58:15 -0000 On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Roland Smith wrote: > There are several possible drivers you could use; pcl3 pxlmono pxlcolor. > The gutenprint (a.k.a. gimp-print) driver also supports your printer directly. ljet4 is the PCL5 driver, and anything with PCL6 is supposed to also support PCL5. I'd suggest trying both ljet4 and pxlmono or pxlcolor and going with whichever is faster. > However, I'd recommend that you take the time and install and configure > CUPS. If CUPS is desired, sure. For just plain printing, lpr/lpd is often easier to set up. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 01:00:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77AE1065675 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDB68FC15 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7510CCh019937; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:00:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7510C4K019934; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:00:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:00:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 => updating gtk to latest on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:00:13 -0000 On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > In an effort to keep up to date, I checked updates that are available > and tried to apply them. Encountered a problem with gtk : > > /* Commands run */ > quadcore# . > Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. > Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. > Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. > No updates needed. > Ports tree is already up to date. > ===>>> New version available: gtk-2.24.5_1 > ===>>> 537 total installed ports > ===>>> 1 has a new version available > > ran > # portmaster -a Always (yes, always) check /usr/ports/UPDATING before throwing any automatic update tool at it. See the 20110730 entry. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 01:10:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB523106566B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63478FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so1400517iye.17 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:10:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CkFGf6njHb1klJepd6EjOCHEnIA5LmGxaGD5VOqhIy8=; b=JnS0h9gyo6tgPQw/aBhZZkL4YuOaWlWNFwIV/dDzJVg3H2hQg+uIz3dvkNcDdLRooK dsmBv+VMIbUc5HGPiwR8jx9gPTAxnfIQ7JxKgsIazKArIL3NYY/gwlKmKoQfdxBjA0VL ib248ObexrEtA7Q/JUX1gOXVTs35GAIQkWVQs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.146.131 with SMTP id j3mr1337775icv.494.1312506619316; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:10:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:10:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 => updating gtk to latest on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:10:20 -0000 Warren, On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> In an effort to keep up to date, I checked updates that are available >> and tried to apply them. =A0Encountered a problem with gtk : >> >> /* Commands run */ >> quadcore# . >> Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. >> Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. >> Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. >> No updates needed. >> Ports tree is already up to date. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> New version available: gtk-2.24.5_1 >> =3D=3D=3D>>> 537 total installed ports >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> 1 has a new version available >> >> ran >> # portmaster -a > > Always (yes, always) check /usr/ports/UPDATING before throwing any automa= tic > update tool at it. =A0See the 20110730 entry. > Yes I see it, but it does not make a difference :( 20110730: AFFECTS: users of x11-toolkits/gtk20 AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org The gtk-update-icon-cache utility has been split out of the gtk20 port. Use the following instructions to update your system. # pkg_delete -f gtk-2.\* # portmaster x11-toolkits/gtk20 # portmaster -a I ran the first command successfully, but the second bombs out the same place and with same error :( ual-x11.c x11/gdkwindow-x11.c x11/gdkxftdefaults.c x11/gdkxid.c x11/xsettings-client.c x11/xsettings-common.c libgdk-x11-2.0.la Makefile --output Gdk-2.0.gir /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner: not found gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5= /gdk' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5= /gdk' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5= /gdk' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5= ' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. =3D=3D=3D>>> make failed for x11-toolkits/gtk20 =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command li= ne: portmaster x11-toolkits/gtk20 quadcore# Thanks for your input. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 01:31:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5AF10656FC for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3238FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so1437833iye.17 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:31:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xxStkHqg9hB3G3Ii3Nr9/KKcwCZH/svpV3H+9YW9oYE=; b=eRcpYYH3uW71z+Pd0/8Q4jdJ1IWnO5HkWquNG5NFFaKAVLAcz22mUXZFUcQfPDZWqE UiaJD7IpBGPrHHIE39d2YcGAOzESIwofxw9PY9jhwEW6ZN4Q4mNul9VI0FnphNUraYzF xwZORjrGSHUe+n/TGYuo6Nuy0MEIdOqFwrxEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.82.75 with SMTP id c11mr1325103icl.92.1312507912791; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:31:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: SOLVED! Re: gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 => updating gtk to latest on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:31:54 -0000 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Warren, > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >>> In an effort to keep up to date, I checked updates that are available >>> and tried to apply them. =A0Encountered a problem with gtk : >>> >>> /* Commands run */ >>> quadcore# . >>> Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. >>> Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. >>> Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. >>> No updates needed. >>> Ports tree is already up to date. >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> New version available: gtk-2.24.5_1 >>> =3D=3D=3D>>> 537 total installed ports >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> 1 has a new version available >>> >>> ran >>> # portmaster -a >> >> Always (yes, always) check /usr/ports/UPDATING before throwing any autom= atic >> update tool at it. =A0See the 20110730 entry. >> > > Yes I see it, but it does not make a difference :( > > 20110730: > =A0AFFECTS: users of x11-toolkits/gtk20 > =A0AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org > > =A0The gtk-update-icon-cache utility has been split out of the gtk20 port= . > =A0Use the following instructions to update your system. > > =A0# pkg_delete -f gtk-2.\* > =A0# portmaster x11-toolkits/gtk20 > =A0# portmaster -a > > I ran the first command successfully, but the second bombs out the > same place and with same error :( > > ual-x11.c x11/gdkwindow-x11.c x11/gdkxftdefaults.c x11/gdkxid.c > x11/xsettings-client.c x11/xsettings-common.c libgdk-x11-2.0.la > Makefile --output Gdk-2.0.gir > /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner: not found > gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 > gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24= .5/gdk' > gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24= .5/gdk' > gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24= .5/gdk' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24= .5' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > > =3D=3D=3D>>> make failed for x11-toolkits/gtk20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update > > > =3D=3D=3D>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command = line: > =A0 =A0 =A0 portmaster x11-toolkits/gtk20 > > quadcore# > > Thanks for your input. > > Regards, > > Antonio > @Warren Thank you for your help. I found the solution in : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D23721 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection/work/gobject-introspection-0.10.8' =3D=3D=3D> Compressing manual pages for gobject-introspection-0.10.8 =3D=3D=3D> Running ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib =3D=3D=3D> Registering installation for gobject-introspection-0.10.8 =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for gobject-introspection-0.10.8 =3D=3D=3D>>> Updating dependency entry for gobject-introspection-0.10.8 in each dependent port =3D=3D=3D>>> Re-installation of gobject-introspection-0.10.8 complete install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/docs/reference/gtk/gtk-query= -immodules-2.0.1 /usr/local/man/man1 =3D=3D=3D> Compressing manual pages for gtk-2.24.5_1 =3D=3D=3D> Running ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib =3D=3D=3D> Registering installation for gtk-2.24.5_1 =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for gtk-2.24.5_1 =3D=3D=3D>>> Updating dependency entry for gtk-2.24.5_1 in each dependent p= ort =3D=3D=3D>>> Installation of x11-toolkits/gtk20 (gtk-2.24.5_1) complete quadcore# portmaster -a =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering distinfo list for installed ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting check of installed ports for available updates =3D=3D=3D>>> All ports are up to date I used your script to check for updates and I am trying to keep updated. I am learning. I used to just install and forget about it. I am learning that there is more to it :) quadcore# ./up2date Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Thu Aug 4 19:05:29 CDT 2011 to Thu Aug 4 20:15:52 CDT 2011. Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 2 patches.. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 0 new ports or files... done. Removing old files and directories... done. Extracting new files: /usr/ports/security/dradis/ /usr/ports/security/gnupg/ Building new INDEX files... done. =3D=3D=3D>>> 537 total installed ports =3D=3D=3D>>> There are no new versions available quadcore# cat up2date #!/bin/sh /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch update && \ /usr/local/sbin/portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' quadcore# Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 01:31:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E091065676 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyra_angel0828@yahoo.com) Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BF6F8FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2011 01:18:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.198] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2011 01:18:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2011 01:18:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 98393.72631.bm@omp1007.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 18268 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2011 01:18:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1312507087; bh=AN7jtGIK57tBFdr3EWh7GcUBb1s+akQc2LUkU+JZ2lg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ilZruQVjeWMc6VDMyq/v038M1hgD7kKuG4lJL7CyKZWL0l3TjFf1YyKNdmcoGMUTxyh6iYFP5plr9H96Px2zE7PxLDfIm3gfWOl382aSKJjb7krAghNmamRhhdjk31kMBV7lnBqyeE4YzUJ7rjLc0ulnUUoLod8DR0hkaM6rRuA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lGBKb+Z3R8kodugYI16HKnLLZy6f9N52qrLXSrXbZvCHvt85aaKO8cIY/Bp02p1JiX00pqiA9I+XG2PAqqmDXVkuBd7B0os35I06TlVIU5q07KiOwEP+JdPgBblzmCzN1zGyRT7xTqH9uHVp/W7ZdYQ1nYKcpOTPsRMtrXeHv7U=; X-YMail-OSG: Ce6icxYVM1mb6tWGdb9REzy_AJlvk3GxobYNwtaFhAcCPKv cJ1vYYgDbFPxO2q9TsAP4_pwWmMVsGUC8iT_PLGHgSIgfdZIc4t.Gldt_DFb TykJ_w5tFVE1a1OLmZ3R1aRuMFmHZnCkWVmwE036QoHvnzTM2MEahA9_udVJ B0rkLVvi4d6BN5FRknmqRNOQRBa1w_wgmShC_0DO8yq8w0MfMpmd2rhOUEQB mxsyfcw1ndrgZtXnzjX51470EpAkJeO2fjWThfchepT1G59AKz3ud.wthj5f gPB0P17t5aGErLKm46zyhr.lOL382WjoKofJGFw6rtIPOEmBuorS796JpAIK D4bYbCnxQ0VfBK0_H_CCS_IYnoSDYUxAuMPyT7OkCVdS15P6Yzw3q3GqEuas PciGx3XjfLSGjMojQ7TSnwlOtOqGl0VmlBSICqoXxCC4- Received: from [112.208.110.136] by web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:18:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.313619 Message-ID: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:18:07 -0700 (PDT) From: zareena crisostomo To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1995681309-1312507087=:17371" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:01:05 +0000 Cc: Subject: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zareena crisostomo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:31:34 -0000 --0-1995681309-1312507087=:17371 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please help me with my research work..I'm working on Freebsd as my OS. 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l85QraAenyfpZn53KpjDLTHVwuhki0GeH3JHdX4o7JmwYM4x0xDSDiiw6dWTyp7EJoHs O6plPgTP9bpPB6pd/b80nxaZX899ucnSIEG98= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.218.193 with SMTP id hr1mr550239qab.29.1312513914633; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.37.74 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 22:11:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: zareena crisostomo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:11:55 -0000 > Please help me with my research work..I'm working on Freebsd as my OS. Tnx. > > > > Zareena C. Bohol http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/book.html You should find many answers there. Hope it helps in someway. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 03:34:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773651065670 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 03:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574558FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 03:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.88]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D5FFB16B4A6; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 22:07:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 22:04:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 22:04:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: zareena crisostomo In-Reply-To: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:34:32 -0000 On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, zareena crisostomo wrote: > Please help me with my research work..I'm working on Freebsd as my OS. > Tnx. And you attach a Word document? Your scam stinks to high heaven. > > > > Zareena C. Bohol -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 03:47:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB20106566C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 03:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E1A8FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 03:47:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:From:Mime-Version:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=rfElac9wujh70H9bHiUthIOR9hXzRh/vErPwXhnD/hI=; b=kzPZL4RmBhT49bQwpD7Ls4xd0szBZcUUo368al0+IEErKKICapMLpXeg+GSV0O8fmAvFy90v/3N9EToLvhE14rOBJU6v+799phEn5MvkOmmxGEoR+SROW1mGAxVnWMe4; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QpBQg-0008Yl-D8 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:50:35 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1312516227-54871-54870/5/3; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 03:50:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 22:47:45 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Cc: Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:47:55 -0000 On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:04:22 -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > And you attach a Word document? Your scam stinks to high heaven. It's a pdf... but yeah, weird. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 04:39:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE77106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 04:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobledb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA0D8FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 04:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so7597804pzk.18 for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:39:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8Ctz04yU+fryDc6TBWV5B0NONVoWXLK1edP6xseSVeU=; b=irzIOSgjBADC4n9GMAIWSylNr2LCjIt9mbqMDZ/7nR5XXrx8i4WdS7witEoMlnwUCh qUjJiS1Mu4EosKUG/A5/M8fdRK0uP7V9H/zI1KPfcGIi7NVbXuk1c8VChGHBhSmEG63M /hmwtskOfO2H1KVfr+czhGYrUP2IKBwz/rMYE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.47.15 with SMTP id u15mr1500392wfu.258.1312519160769; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.70.4 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 21:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 05:39:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: Alvaro Castillo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: will have 4th FreeBSD Edition handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:39:22 -0000 Hello world! Yes, The 3rd Edition of FreeBSD's Handbook is more old than Noe's Ark (is for FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x versions). The Handbook today has got a lot of changes (I presume with FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE more yet). I'm interesting buy this handbook, but is so old.... Anybody share my opinion?(http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdhandbk3.1?id=EYpTCzbq&mv_pc=12) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- netSys------ http://www.byteandbit.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 04:48:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2920F106566B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 04:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52688FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 04:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p754mFxd067446 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:48:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p754mEct004246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:48:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p754mD8v004207; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:48:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:48:13 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110805044811.GA66340@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 04 Aug 2011 23:48:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 => updating gtk to latest on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:48:19 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 04), Antonio Olivares said: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Warren Block wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> In an effort to keep up to date, I checked updates that are available > >> and tried to apply them.  Encountered a problem with gtk : > >> > >> /* Commands run */ > >> quadcore# . > >> Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. > >> Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. > >> Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. > >> No updates needed. > >> Ports tree is already up to date. > >>        ===>>> New version available: gtk-2.24.5_1 > >> ===>>> 537 total installed ports > >>        ===>>> 1 has a new version available > >> > >> ran > >> # portmaster -a > > > > Always (yes, always) check /usr/ports/UPDATING before throwing any automatic > > update tool at it.  See the 20110730 entry. > > > > Yes I see it, but it does not make a difference :( > > 20110730: > AFFECTS: users of x11-toolkits/gtk20 > AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org > > The gtk-update-icon-cache utility has been split out of the gtk20 port. > Use the following instructions to update your system. > > # pkg_delete -f gtk-2.\* > # portmaster x11-toolkits/gtk20 > # portmaster -a > > I ran the first command successfully, but the second bombs out the > same place and with same error :( > > ual-x11.c x11/gdkwindow-x11.c x11/gdkxftdefaults.c x11/gdkxid.c > x11/xsettings-client.c x11/xsettings-common.c libgdk-x11-2.0.la > Makefile --output Gdk-2.0.gir > /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner: not found g-ir-scanner is a python script. I bet the interpreter path on the first line of that file no longer points to a valid python executable. Have you converted python versions recently and forgot to rebuild all ports depending on it? -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 08:07:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB481065670 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0626D8FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxh10 with SMTP id 10so2419916vxh.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:07:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YfZXiY2jCwCNGw7+Z6L/80+sMMoKl2qKMUAy4dg0UfA=; b=W+1b2hmXKIcAXWVS6LtLkrTxZ5G/n3iW3P9Yzb6y2n+MmJrI63EP5PUnvgiz+mscfq EjICtZm9MOrs03yeZB0ajcGIWmk07afu1lq42IjHCkUoBuxsZIRJ0u7johF7MZCh67BK Jqzx722jWBKDLkCZ4jylaAK2BEJnGayI/8Xyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.74.34 with SMTP id q2mr1942704vdv.233.1312529805543; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 00:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.178.201 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 00:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:36:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: listing ZFS pool name in fixit mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:07:07 -0000 Hi guys, I have a 8.2-amd64 machine on which I blew up the boot blocks (isn't booting any more). It's s supermicro server btw and we have a ZFSonRooT setup there. The way I want to go about fixing it is booting into single user mode, mounting all the datasets, undoing the modification I did to the boot blocks, recompiling and installing the "old" version of the boot blocks for the system to boot. The problem is that after I boot a 8.2-DVD and then go to fixit mode, load the opensolaris and the zfs modules, I cannot list the ZFS pool name (I don;t know the ZFS pool name because I didn;t setup this machine) and without the name, I cannot import the pool to fix the boot blocks. So, my question is if there is a way to list the zpool in single user mode so that I know which pool I have to import or if there might be another way of fixing this problem. I already tried "zpool list" but it was no good. -- Best regards, Claudiu Vasadi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 09:11:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FD71065676; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=191e474ac=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEE48FC14; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchh2.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.21]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 05 Aug 2011 10:41:54 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by exchh2.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.61) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:41:54 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p758fsqa001379; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:41:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p758fsUs001355; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:41:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:41:54 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Message-ID: <20110805084154.GA46719@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrades fail because of missing /usr/local/lib/liblzma.la X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:11:09 -0000 On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 01:45:02PM -0400, b. f. wrote: > > o) What can I do to get ports recognize the correct location of the > > xz-libraries? > > As I wrote above, some more information would help. I'm guessing that > you have a port that (unfortunately) uses libtool to perform linking, > and has an erroneous /usr/local/lib/lzma.la entry in a libtool archive > file (*.la), or is using some combination of uncommon linker flags > and sloppy use of -L/usr/local/lib. Does a search like: > > fgrep -e lzma -nHr /usr/local/lib --include='*.la' > > yield any results? If you see any references in a libtool archive to > the nonexistent "/usr/local/lib/liblzma.la", try removing and then > rebuilding the port that owns that libtool archive -- you should be > able to determine the port by running "pkg_info -W" with the full path > of the libtool archive as an argument. > Hi, First of all I'm posting my reply to both -questions where I sent my original question to as well as -ports where you sent your reply so others are seeing this too. In short - thanks to your hints everything's healthy again :-)) Here's what I did (in case others are suffering from this problem too): fgrep -e lzma -nHr /usr/local/lib --include='*.la' yielded a bunch of results - grep-ed for "/usr/local/lib/liblzma.la". Then feeded these into pkg_info -W which nicely pointed me to the corresponding port where this library comes from. The only thing I had to do then was to make deinstall;make clean; make install this port. In my case it was e.g. the "ImageMagick-6.7.0.10_1" port causing all the mess. So thanks to you all who responded. It's great to have such a knowledgeable and helpful community out there - you indeed learn something new every day. -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 11:33:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEE4106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F778FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p75BX2nS097240; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:33:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from localhost (feenberg@localhost) by nber6.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p75BOjvD016737; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:24:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nber6.nber.org: feenberg owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:24:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: Alvaro Castillo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20110805 #5815893, check: 20110805 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: will have 4th FreeBSD Edition handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:05 -0000 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011, Alvaro Castillo wrote: > Hello world! > > Yes, The 3rd Edition of FreeBSD's Handbook is more old than Noe's Ark > (is for FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x versions). > The Handbook today has got a lot of changes (I presume with FreeBSD > 9.0-RELEASE more yet). I'm interesting buy this handbook, but is so > old.... > You might be better off purchasing "Absolute FreeBSD" which has a more recent 2nd edition: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593271514/ and which covers much the same territory. It has a good discussion of diskless booting, a portion of the handbook which is hopelessly obsolete. Daniel Feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 13:23:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C943A106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8E18FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so2646815iye.17 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:23:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cpZd1SQEuuPS7LhTBoKUU6SjV7WAbFrqfHZYWyqSorM=; b=JbUxcZpVwA1t8qgBEwCiSN5vppFqB9OjEmrzXGw4aEkCuO68r/LxgN0AqcG++veO4H GlbteAIrMgbuUl21pZSj0tmAeTSYJ9e96QHPttLMVGUezS+zR5cTk0g9SY068xAnpbLw OobWIc2rmplc2pcxBZNQdp522subi3CdlAK7s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.52.136 with SMTP id vm8mr1865437icb.25.1312550630066; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.200 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 06:23:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110805044811.GA66340@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20110805044811.GA66340@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:23:50 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmake[4]: *** [Gdk-2.0.gir] Error 127 => updating gtk to latest on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:23:51 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Aug 04), Antonio Olivares said: >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> > On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> In an effort to keep up to date, I checked updates that are available >> >> and tried to apply them. =A0Encountered a problem with gtk : >> >> >> >> /* Commands run */ >> >> quadcore# . >> >> Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. >> >> Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. >> >> Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. >> >> No updates needed. >> >> Ports tree is already up to date. >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> New version available: gtk-2.24.5_1 >> >> =3D=3D=3D>>> 537 total installed ports >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> 1 has a new version available >> >> >> >> ran >> >> # portmaster -a >> > >> > Always (yes, always) check /usr/ports/UPDATING before throwing any aut= omatic >> > update tool at it. =A0See the 20110730 entry. >> > >> >> Yes I see it, but it does not make a difference :( >> >> 20110730: >> =A0 AFFECTS: users of x11-toolkits/gtk20 >> =A0 AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org >> >> =A0 The gtk-update-icon-cache utility has been split out of the gtk20 po= rt. >> =A0 Use the following instructions to update your system. >> >> =A0 # pkg_delete -f gtk-2.\* >> =A0 # portmaster x11-toolkits/gtk20 >> =A0 # portmaster -a >> >> I ran the first command successfully, but the second bombs out the >> same place and with same error :( >> >> ual-x11.c x11/gdkwindow-x11.c x11/gdkxftdefaults.c x11/gdkxid.c >> x11/xsettings-client.c x11/xsettings-common.c libgdk-x11-2.0.la >> Makefile --output Gdk-2.0.gir >> /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner: not found > > g-ir-scanner is a python script. =A0I bet the interpreter path on the fir= st > line of that file no longer points to a valid python executable. =A0Have = you > converted python versions recently and forgot to rebuild all ports depend= ing > on it? > > -- Dan, it was there :) problem was it was not found. Found how to fix these errors here: Thank you for your help. I found the solution in : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D23721 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection/work/gobject-introspection-0.10.8' =3D=3D=3D> Compressing manual pages for gobject-introspection-0.10.8 =3D=3D=3D> Running ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib =3D=3D=3D> Registering installation for gobject-introspection-0.10.8 =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for gobject-introspection-0.10.8 =3D=3D=3D>>> Updating dependency entry for gobject-introspection-0.10.8 in each dependent port =3D=3D=3D>>> Re-installation of gobject-introspection-0.10.8 complete after this, update was successful :) Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 14:10:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B4D1065676 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0721E8FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p75EARUV019560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:10:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p75EAR3G000367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:10:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p75EARjM000366; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:10:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:10:27 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: claudiu vasadi Message-ID: <20110805141026.GB66340@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:10:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: listing ZFS pool name in fixit mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:10:30 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 05), claudiu vasadi said: > I have a 8.2-amd64 machine on which I blew up the boot blocks (isn't > booting any more). It's s supermicro server btw and we have a ZFSonRooT > setup there. > > The way I want to go about fixing it is booting into single user mode, > mounting all the datasets, undoing the modification I did to the boot > blocks, recompiling and installing the "old" version of the boot blocks > for the system to boot. > > The problem is that after I boot a 8.2-DVD and then go to fixit mode, load > the opensolaris and the zfs modules, I cannot list the ZFS pool name (I > don;t know the ZFS pool name because I didn;t setup this machine) and > without the name, I cannot import the pool to fix the boot blocks. > > So, my question is if there is a way to list the zpool in single user mode > so that I know which pool I have to import or if there might be another > way of fixing this problem. "zpool import" with no pool name will list all the pools available to import. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 14:47:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37C8106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B25B8FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10so644332gyd.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 07:47:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.53.6 with SMTP id vo6mr2226609icb.157.1312555675574; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 07:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.30.136 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:47:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VAMk4PAyTqUe0F7F80oqmtEh1QM Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: zareena crisostomo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:47:56 -0000 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:18 PM, zareena crisostomo wrote: > Please help me with my research work..I'm working on Freebsd as my OS. Tnx. > So, please clarify. You want us to do your homework assignment? But how can we? You sent a proprietary format and it's locked, so we can't even cut and paste to answer the assignment for you! I wonder what Ms. Nancy M. Flores would think of your "research" techniques! Sadly, none of your college of IT have their e-mails posted. Let's see. You were able to post on this list, so obviously you know how to STFW, and you obviously know how to read. So here, RTFM: http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html Then, after you actually install and try FreeBSD, and if you have any _specific_ questions, then come back here with ONE (1) question per e-mail. You may be wondering why such a hostile reaction from many people here. This will answer _that_ question: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Best, -- Alejandro Imass > > > Zareena C. Bohol > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 15:17:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C28A1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (unknown [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BFFF8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15601 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2011 15:17:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2011 15:17:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=HAAhCU6yySqqZ3ZpgPB9mqbR5KluJ3HUjlR4I621CcU=; b=MLbe30zcE2pl0uoJi4rykon8wcYzv+ixZGSQ/roTMa6OD8EBT64XHQRV0qpDQf6vwrNF9ZTakfkCNqmeWuv5EtLHS16YpJMTtH17EXb9/YUJm+xzacx+7inCBMByw8JD; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpM9L-0005ji-PB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:17:24 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:00:03 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:00:03 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20110805150003.GA43820@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:17:25 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 10:47:54AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: =2E . . a bunch of stuff. I had no interest in reading the attached PDF until I saw the message by Alejandro Imass. Now that I've read it, I can only think that if one takes the tasks described in that PDF literally and seriously the project must be the equivalent of a Master's thesis. Holy crap. That's a lot of work, and if someone does a good job on that set of tasks for FreeBSD, that person should end up knowing more than me about FreeBSD despite having spent six years using it so far. I hope this isn't some two-week project. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk48BXMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW4PwCdErYzfn172XcjAZ4B876xnjG0 cVIAoLBK9s0s4AP/NwEnWHb5T6R4zrYt =ms2t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 15:43:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918E71065670 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433378FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxh10 with SMTP id 10so2801051vxh.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.85.138 with SMTP id o10mr192135vcl.105.1312559029652; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h20sm1178670vce.5.2011.08.05.08.43.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RVsqk55r8z2CG4y for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:43:46 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:43:50 -0000 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0400 Alejandro Imass articulated: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:18 PM, zareena crisostomo > wrote: > > Please help me with my research work..I'm working on Freebsd as my > > OS. Tnx. > > > So, please clarify. You want us to do your homework assignment? But > how can we? You sent a proprietary format and it's locked, so we > can't even cut and paste to answer the assignment for you! > > I wonder what Ms. Nancy M. Flores would think of your "research" > techniques! Sadly, none of your college of IT have their e-mails > posted. > > Let's see. You were able to post on this list, so obviously you know > how to STFW, and you obviously know how to read. > > So here, RTFM: > > http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html > > Then, after you actually install and try FreeBSD, and if you have any > _specific_ questions, then come back here with ONE (1) question per > e-mail. > > You may be wondering why such a hostile reaction from many people > here. This will answer _that_ question: > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html For Christ's sake, he posted a simple assignment outline, more than likely the original one he received and asked for help with it. Obviously, part of the problem can be attributed to language. I assume someone besides myself noticed where the assignment originated from. All he did was ask for some assistance; not for someone to do the actual assignment. Perhaps he could have worded it different; however, anyone with an IQ over 2 would have been aware of what his intent was. Personally, if I was his instructor, I would give him high marks on initiative for going straight to the source and seeking answers. I am assuming that you actually have some education, basket weaving doesn't count, and have received assignments that required obtaining facts, etcetera. It would have been so much easier and pleasant to have simple listed a few links to documentation that he might be able to use rather than attacking the OP in a condescending manner. If you are really looking for e-mail addresses, start here: . When you e-mail his instructors, please CC me as well. I really want to see how this is going to turn out for you. Be sure to include the OP's original post to this list as well. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 15:46:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0E2106570B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4ED8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxh10 with SMTP id 10so2803470vxh.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:46:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.179.136 with SMTP id bq8mr708801vcb.74.1312559177169; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.220.182.141 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:46:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110805150003.GA43820@guilt.hydra> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805150003.GA43820@guilt.hydra> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:46:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KXo_SXW1BfA12MM8YucK01RJfyo Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:46:18 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 10:47:54AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > . . . a bunch of stuff. > > I had no interest in reading the attached PDF until I saw the message by > Alejandro Imass. =A0Now that I've read it, I can only think that if one > takes the tasks described in that PDF literally and seriously the project > must be the equivalent of a Master's thesis. =A0Holy crap. =A0That's a lo= t of > work, and if someone does a good job on that set of tasks for FreeBSD, > that person should end up knowing more than me about FreeBSD despite > having spent six years using it so far. > > I hope this isn't some two-week project. > Ja! Especially fun will be cutting and pasting sections II.a and b. Here you go, Zareena, all you need to do is divide this list about 30/70 into points IIa and IIb, I'm sure your teacher's won't know the difference which goes where: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/master-index.html What's sad IMHO is that IT Colleges world-wide, not in the OP's country, have gotten so pirate, that they don't really teach computing, but rather create "users".... maybe analogous to Agricultural schools which teach the techniques and legal aspects of cross-pollination for planting with Monsanto seeds. Anyway, the fact that the teacher assigned this student FreeBSD at least is a sign of hope ;-) but on the other hand it's no wonder why the largest IT companies in the world were formed by University drop-outs... The curriculum is probably OK, for example as you said, if this assignment would be taken seriously.... but you can clearly see the attitude of students which is probably an x-ray into his college. Then again, I think the FBSD Handbook is even more complete than this homework assignment. Cheers! -- Alejandro Imass > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 16:17:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D89F1065673 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFEA8FC23 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxh10 with SMTP id 10so2834851vxh.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:17:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.182.67 with SMTP id ec3mr2513645vdc.246.1312561033494; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.220.182.141 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:17:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:17:13 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xT8FosaUT8Sq8DQcY-I0mpx6DL8 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:17:14 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0400 > Alejandro Imass articulated: > [...] > > For Christ's sake, he posted a simple assignment outline, more than > likely the original one he received and asked for help with it. > Obviously, part of the problem can be attributed to language. I assume > someone besides myself noticed where the assignment originated from. Everyone reacts from his or her particular perception. The assignment is in plain English so I doubt the problem is language related, so in my perception, the question is laziness. And you have to respect that. > All he did was ask for some assistance; not for someone to do the actual > assignment. Perhaps he could have worded it different; however, anyone > with an IQ over 2 would have been aware of what his intent was. > Exactly my point, thanks: With my humble IQ of 2, his e-mail reads "Please do my homework for me". > Personally, if I was his instructor, I would give him high marks on > initiative for going straight to the source and seeking answers. I am It's a good thing you are not! IMHO awarding laziness is not a good thing. > assuming that you actually have some education, basket weaving doesn't > count, and have received assignments that required obtaining facts, > etcetera. It would have been so much easier and pleasant to have simple > listed a few links to documentation that he might be able to use rather > than attacking the OP in a condescending manner. > The only one attacking here, my friend, is you. My mail was very straight forward: go do your homework first; then come back and ask some intelligent question. I would gladly accept you criticism if I hadn't pointed the OP in the right direction. But if it's a question of "style" then the question becomes, where did you get your education? because any of my teachers would have done the same or worse: "go away and come back with a specific question; don't come here with you assignment and expect me to do it for you!", "but here, read this and then come back" > If you are really looking for e-mail addresses, start here: > . When you e-mail his instructors, please > CC me as well. I really want to see how this is going to turn out for > you. Be sure to include the OP's original post to this list as well. > Yeah well you should have looked yourself first, the faculty staff is here: http://www.uc-bcf.edu.ph/Programs/Faculty?College=3DCITCS And, as I stated in my original reply, they don't post their mails. I do my homework first. -- Alejandro > -- > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 16:28:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E74106566C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnavaza@hotmail.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717798FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QpNFg-0002Kp-MG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:28:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:28:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Fravadona To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1312561680679-4670031.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1312482860962-4667459.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <4D8EC168.7060905@rawbw.com> <1312482366944-4667421.post@n5.nabble.com> <1312482860962-4667459.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ipmi is broken? (ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:28:01 -0000 Actually IPMI was working until yesterday (on Linux rhel 5) and stopped working when I installed FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 (same result with FreeBSD 8.2 i386) On Linux : # dmidecode Handle 0x0029, DMI type 38, 16 bytes IPMI Device Information Interface Type: KCS (Keyboard Control Style) Specification Version: 1.5 I2C Slave Address: 0x10 NV Storage Device: Not Present Base Address: 0x0000000000000CA2 (I/O) # ipmitool mc info Device ID : 0 Device Revision : 1 Firmware Revision : 1.48 IPMI Version : 1.5 Manufacturer ID : 2 Manufacturer Name : Unknown (0x02) Product ID : 34869 (0x8835) Product Name : Unknown (0x8835) Device Available : yes Provides Device SDRs : no Additional Device Support : Sensor Device SDR Repository Device SEL Device FRU Inventory Device IPMB Event Receiver Bridge Chassis Device Aux Firmware Rev Info : 0x88 0x00 0x00 0x00 #lspci 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03) 02:01.1 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03) As my google searches pointed to me, the problem on FreeBSD seems to be related to the bge driver. I tried to configure hw.bge.allow_asf=0|1 and hw.pci.enable_msi=0 in loader.conf, which didn't fix the problem. Should I try to compile an older bge driver or fix the new one ? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ipmi-is-broken-ppc0-cannot-reserve-I-O-port-range-tp4266087p4670031.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 16:28:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B96A1065677 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from rc3.surewest.net (rc3.surewest.net [66.60.130.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151CE8FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.surewest.net ([66.60.130.145]) by rc3.surewest.net ({9c3c9505-091b-4be1-8280-6f177375641d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20110805161509774 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:15:09 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by smtp3.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118F98946D for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89B499C0D8 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33DBC165447 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1312560910; bh=4/XVrcGxyJ639LO1wvBrMljBTEYze3fO5Y9bpce+CTc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YavotYsRsLHOvR3sZ8SCNDmUkhTwlie2L08j2aC4y4iMzj5fvwBaue4Ua2TVs5D9V 47afvCp6Smsbcl1vOhD7+jehQjubYyj9XkzRCtA5/qYn0I7e/vJ8GMGZKQhpj1Umzk Mu8Qzxklr76gIP7NPZoyadYCfmYYaiE4kbMoz88k= Message-ID: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:15:21 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:28:42 -0000 I'm running bind 9.3.5 and have been running some version of Bind for years. The purpose of this server is to resolve for my home LAN and to do regular queries for things outside my LAN. Just recently, I noticed that my server can't resolve for some names. The ones I've noticed are for Microsoft domains, specifically go.microsoft.com and time.windows.com. For example: # dig go.microsoft.com ; <<>> DiG 9.3.5-P2 <<>> go.microsoft.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Yet if I ask my ISP's server, I get resolution: # dig @66.60.130.158 go.microsoft.com ; <<>> DiG 9.3.5-P2 <<>> @66.60.130.158 go.microsoft.com ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40919 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;go.microsoft.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: go.microsoft.com. 2364 IN CNAME www.go.microsoft.akadns.net. www.go.microsoft.akadns.net. 462 IN A 64.4.11.160 ;; Query time: 39 msec ;; SERVER: 66.60.130.158#53(66.60.130.158) ;; WHEN: Fri Aug 5 09:02:56 2011 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 91 But for all other domains I've tried, DNS resolution works just fine from my server. Here's an example: # dig yahoo.com ; <<>> DiG 9.3.5-P2 <<>> yahoo.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60582 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 7, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;yahoo.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: yahoo.com. 21600 IN A 69.147.125.65 yahoo.com. 21600 IN A 72.30.2.43 yahoo.com. 21600 IN A 98.137.149.56 yahoo.com. 21600 IN A 209.191.122.70 yahoo.com. 21600 IN A 67.195.160.76 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns5.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns6.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns8.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns3.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 172800 IN NS ns4.yahoo.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns6.yahoo.com. 172800 IN A 202.43.223.170 ns8.yahoo.com. 172800 IN A 202.165.104.22 ;; Query time: 236 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.4#53(192.168.1.4) ;; WHEN: Fri Aug 5 09:05:32 2011 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 265 So to try and diagnose this, I investigated logging. My /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf file had this default logging section: logging { category default { default_syslog; default_debug; }; category security { default_syslog; default_debug; }; category xfer-in { default_syslog; default_debug; }; category xfer-out { default_syslog; default_debug; }; category notify { default_syslog; default_debug; }; category update { default_syslog; default_debug; }; category update-security { default_syslog; default_debug; }; category lame-servers { default_syslog; default_debug; }; }; But I couldn't find any logging in any of my log files like /var/log/messages or /var/log/all.log and there were no files in /var/named/var/log. I did some Googling, commented out the above, added the section below, and restarted named: logging{ channel simple_log { file "/var/log/named.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity warning; print-time yes; print-severity yes; print-category yes; }; category default { simple_log; }; category network { simple_log; }; category queries { simple_log; }; category resolver { simple_log; }; category general { simple_log; }; }; This did create a log file called /var/named/var/log/named.log. However I'm not getting much info in this log. I only get this text upon restart: 05-Aug-2011 07:39:22.583 general: error: the working directory is not writable What must I do to get more detailed logging that might help diagnose this problem? Or better yet, what is going on with my Bind installation? ;) Cheers, Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 16:41:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287AC1065678 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E717F8FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:41:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=fz1wlcg/8Ifa4fHUihKZozNgIEieUTppIVFllA9KM/M=; b=RCe1V5NqffiXHYjKJSuhmYBDQlNDJtsM/MpmTBxLDBH8ysZgK/bHdBmaPJ0+aE/1TVH5QnNzB1tk/zRuGuC57mHNVzdT+bngw8Qhj9F3eb8dgj4cHr133xKutaOdjxyC; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QpNVT-0004pl-7p for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:44:20 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1312562653-1570-1569/5/1; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:44:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:40:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Subject: Re: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:41:04 -0000 On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:15:21 -0500, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Just recently, I noticed that my server can't resolve for some names. > The ones I've noticed are for Microsoft domains, specifically > go.microsoft.com and time.windows.com. For example: > What kind of firewall stuff are you doing? Is it possible you're dropping the DNS replies when they're TCP? This happens when the reply is a certain size. Cheers, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 17:00:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5AF1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1319F8FC18 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so852166vws.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.23.10 with SMTP id i10mr2676567vdf.317.1312563635101; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cg6sm1516612vdc.17.2011.08.05.10.00.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RVvXK3DnNz2CG4y for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:00:32 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:00:36 -0000 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:17:13 -0400 Alejandro Imass articulated: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jerry wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0400 > > Alejandro Imass articulated: > > > [...] > > > > > For Christ's sake, he posted a simple assignment outline, more than > > likely the original one he received and asked for help with it. > > Obviously, part of the problem can be attributed to language. I > > assume someone besides myself noticed where the assignment > > originated from. > > Everyone reacts from his or her particular perception. The assignment > is in plain English so I doubt the problem is language related, so in > my perception, the question is laziness. > And you have to respect that. No I don't. Being able to read a language, and I have no idea, nor do you, exactly how well the OP can converse in English. There are numerous posters on this forum that apparently can read to a limited extend and post as well in English. Grammatically, it may suck but at least the the majority of this community can ascertain what the OP was trying to convey. > > All he did was ask for some assistance; not for someone to do the > > actual assignment. Perhaps he could have worded it different; > > however, anyone with an IQ over 2 would have been aware of what his > > intent was. > > > > Exactly my point, thanks: > > With my humble IQ of 2, his e-mail reads "Please do my homework for > me". Please help me with my research work..I'm working on Freebsd as my OS. Tnx. Interesting! "Do" != "Help" You do have a serious IQ deficiency. So, using your interpretation, the next time someone posts asking for help with a problem they have encountered with FreeBSD, you are going to assume that they want you to actually fix it for them rather then give them some verbal assistance or a link to a possible fix? Pathetic to say the least. > > Personally, if I was his instructor, I would give him high marks on > > initiative for going straight to the source and seeking answers. I > > am > > It's a good thing you are not! IMHO awarding laziness is not a good > thing. > > > assuming that you actually have some education, basket weaving > > doesn't count, and have received assignments that required > > obtaining facts, etcetera. It would have been so much easier and > > pleasant to have simple listed a few links to documentation that he > > might be able to use rather than attacking the OP in a > > condescending manner. > > > > The only one attacking here, my friend, is you. > > My mail was very straight forward: go do your homework first; then > come back and ask some intelligent question. > > I would gladly accept you criticism if I hadn't pointed the OP in the > right direction. > > But if it's a question of "style" then the question becomes, where did > you get your education? because any of my teachers would have done the > same or worse: > "go away and come back with a specific question; don't come here with > you assignment and expect me to do it for you!", "but here, read this > and then come back" > > > If you are really looking for e-mail addresses, start here: > > . When you e-mail his instructors, please > > CC me as well. I really want to see how this is going to turn out > > for you. Be sure to include the OP's original post to this list as > > well. > > > > Yeah well you should have looked yourself first, the faculty staff is > here: http://www.uc-bcf.edu.ph/Programs/Faculty?College=CITCS > And, as I stated in my original reply, they don't post their mails. I > do my homework first. Really, it took me just seconds to find this address: . I have just sent a message to that address requesting that it be routed to his instructor, Ms. Nancy M. Flores requesting clarification on this assignment, particularly whether it is considered outside the bounds of the assignment to contact the FreeBSD mailing list directly. I included the OP's original post to this group so as to eliminate any confusion on her part. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 17:25:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD45D106566B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from rc1.surewest.net (rc1.surewest.net [66.60.130.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41E88FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.surewest.net ([66.60.130.145]) by rc1.surewest.net ({dfaaa318-551d-4a0a-8038-7c31cf31c4f6}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20110805172534154; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:25:34 +0000 X-RC-FROM: Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by smtp3.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB7A893AA; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F07D69BF31; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87007165448; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:25:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1312565133; bh=VVBLE3RRhGfn2H27VwuKI++z38GixK79mfIXr61kmLE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=22w02oLY2oAJ18RaJbiT153bkxiOQVgLk2bQX165cTCuEGMhgIwzLPQ2t2KduWOMt 7ASkirmlvj7nWlxkb0FdxkQJP+zoYuFZlGylX1UqGtDKwwZGnQTgiQNJlMT7ZOV2wW opOgxYGtWD2Y6j/dmWRMz7pW0VHP5ATK7VqT/89Q= Message-ID: <4E3C2779.9070508@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:25:13 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Felder References: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110805-0, 08/05/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:25:34 -0000 On 8/5/2011 9:40 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:15:21 -0500, Drew Tomlinson > wrote: >> Just recently, I noticed that my server can't resolve for some >> names. The ones I've noticed are for Microsoft domains, specifically >> go.microsoft.com and time.windows.com. For example: >> > > What kind of firewall stuff are you doing? Is it possible you're > dropping the DNS > replies when they're TCP? This happens when the reply is a certain size. Thanks Mark. That may have something to do with it. I upgraded my wireless router to a Linksys E3000 a couple of days ago which is also my "firewall". This thing is a piece of crap! Lots of weirdness regarding port forwarding. Some works. Some doesn't. Tech support is worthless. I'm going to take it back and exchange for another. Hopefully a new one will work right. Anyway, put my previous router/firewall back in place and now my DNS server is able to resolve. Thus the firewalling thing was likely the problem. Any ideas on how to get Bind logging going? Cheers, Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 17:29:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4028F1065700 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24188FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so881562vws.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:29:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.182.67 with SMTP id ec3mr2610117vdc.246.1312565396274; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.220.182.141 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:29:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:29:56 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uKStWSXif3xRBWX_1kA7mEpB1Sw Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:29:58 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:17:13 -0400 > Alejandro Imass articulated: > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jerry wrote: >> > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0400 >> > Alejandro Imass articulated: >> > [...] > least the the majority of this community can ascertain what the OP > was trying to convey. > Oh, so you speak on the majority of this community? Who seconds you? The fact is that there were 5 answers to the OP's questions 4 of which agree with me. So it is you that is wrong, and have anger management issues. [...] > Interesting! "Do" !=3D "Help" You do have a serious IQ deficiency. So, Man, you should really read up on nettiquette. What the fuck is all this personal insulting bullshit? Have I insulted you or the OP? Have YOU ever had an IQ test? You seem so obsessed with it, maybe you should get one. and get a psycho exam while you're at it. BTW, in fact my IQ was formally tested as part of hiring process in 2005, and that was before I discovered FBSD - imagine what it is now Sorry to disappoint you, but mine was actually not 2 but rather 133, that's 3 points higher than the highest average of 95% of the population. > using your interpretation, the next time someone posts asking for help > with a problem they have encountered with FreeBSD, you are going to > assume that they want you to actually fix it for them rather then give > them some verbal assistance or a link to a possible fix? Pathetic to > say the least. > [...] > Really, it took me just seconds to find this address: > . I have just sent a message to that address > requesting that it be routed to his instructor, Ms. Nancy M. Flores If you would actually do your homework instead of all this inflammatory material, Nacy Flores is the Dean of the IT College. It was just a pun, a joke, get it? is your brain even capable of comprehending a little humor? > requesting clarification on this assignment, particularly whether it is > considered outside the bounds of the assignment to contact the FreeBSD > mailing list directly. I included the OP's original post to this group > so as to eliminate any confusion on her part. > what is your problem man? why are you so angry and making this personal? -- Alejandro > -- > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 17:37:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F538106566B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from emlpirnp0.waddell.com (emlpirnp0.waddell.com [67.130.252.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BBA8FC19 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (HELO emlpfilt4.waddell.com) ([10.1.10.26]) by emlpirnp1.waddell.com with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2011 12:37:31 -0500 Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 43AB72F8003 for ; 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<20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:51:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vg12LBUT_5QLktvj2yW3nmln0T0 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Gary Gatten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:51:35 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > If I find someone with an IQ of 160+ and they ask everyone to play nice, = will you? =A0Mine is only 140 something so I don't feel qualified to take t= his task on myself. =A0It would be nice though if someone took such offense= to a post they would simply ignore it > or contact OP offline. =A0Seem 50%= of the content here is b!itching. =A0Now sometimes, and perhaps most times= , it serves as a source of entertainment for me. =A0Others it's just annoyi= ng =A0- such as now. =A0With all this brain power and apparently spare time= , > > can anyone tell me how to get back all the money I've lost in the mar= ket over the last 3 years? =A0Or, perhaps in the last 3 days? =A0I would li= ke some "help" with that! Here are some ideas: - Convince Americans to use their Debit cards instead of credit - Follow Thomas Jefferson's advice and dissolve the Fed - Re-read the Keynes v Hayek published inthe NY Times in 1932 - Do something about Bernard von NotHaus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 17:55:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB201065672 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F248FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so903882vws.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.20.107 with SMTP id m11mr2644278vde.182.1312566921526; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ed4sm1540872vdb.21.2011.08.05.10.55.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RVwlX0l6Tz2CG4y for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:55:19 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110805135519.5771eff8@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4E3C2779.9070508@mykitchentable.net> References: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> <4E3C2779.9070508@mykitchentable.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUAAABYRlwJCw4FAgAIBwKprDkBAQFQLR0BAgCir7VRttp8AAACAUlEQVQ4jZWUTYvbMBCGTVl8V2hX6Gg5G5FbWQdBj0lEfE7BhN4cyzi5Wt1E5L70roWy6N92xok/skkP+5IYrMcz78xIduDWpNM3vFzuA/jX5EY1AI6KHFwW/CzFuQAwqUBbV12p+CzIh6Awq7sg33pn5D64SQXAexffeuQlA/L35RrkaB551OjGfP/cAO8mCNaDcgvfky5ijoD0pAXlCQCnljiAjsJD9Ax05Ko5sZxbnLQcmM+dZg5IjREfZrWIHK0JuwU68pAGwHvfRxBundRzTxxz3r9dNUikPsEihjz2Dc4kjp1hKsJGuot4EDxaxzMoC7XqhxhOSfZrTS6gSX1JVdjp+o1PvWfekXgw3WL0g70nDEwA0H0HQsEZc8sTmFMTkWUfYWC/vdR1zQy3xLQgLwzu90QnlnFLjeiGWBjwhb4Sa42IqOg2qqS4O1/zhKokFUb1Q8Rj4Eb69WVflXEehJ35DgChVTE5n50eaGyMLOfH8AOodoSM4PVYAQgQdBulOa+knklYks3vAuQ+uX492lTl+A+e8qBV2AKoXalVKFfyuUp0pUp1ARaUHh82lv9MN+Ig7CZtgE6FNYvjlywT2VP2dMgOG46gTIWcqdfvuwyXNz0oMJNd/N5lh1YNiJt19ADTUo3VuFSNeQwVqRSrGjSCp53fk2g+Mvfk/gfoPxHeUS8MH9vRAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:55:22 -0000 On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:25:13 -0700 Drew Tomlinson articulated: > On 8/5/2011 9:40 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > > On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:15:21 -0500, Drew Tomlinson > > wrote: > >> Just recently, I noticed that my server can't resolve for some > >> names. The ones I've noticed are for Microsoft domains, > >> specifically go.microsoft.com and time.windows.com. For example: > >> > > > > What kind of firewall stuff are you doing? Is it possible you're > > dropping the DNS > > replies when they're TCP? This happens when the reply is a certain > > size. > > Thanks Mark. That may have something to do with it. I upgraded my > wireless router to a Linksys E3000 a couple of days ago which is also > my "firewall". This thing is a piece of crap! Lots of weirdness > regarding port forwarding. Some works. Some doesn't. Tech support > is worthless. I'm going to take it back and exchange for another. > Hopefully a new one will work right. > > Anyway, put my previous router/firewall back in place and now my DNS > server is able to resolve. Thus the firewalling thing was likely the > problem. > > Any ideas on how to get Bind logging going? I have experience with both the E3200 and E4200 models. I have not worked with an E3000 before though. In any case, they are both Wireless-N routers. FreeBSD does not play well with "N" wireless devices. In any case, have you tried doing a hard reset of the router and then rebooting it and then you system? In regards to tech support, at least in my experience with Linksys, if you don't ask a specific question you are not going to get anywhere. I have found e-mail support to be better or even the live support if available. In any case, you can and I have requested a new support representative and have received one. Sometimes it is just the individual whom you are talking to cannot understand the question correctly. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 18:10:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752D0106566C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3718FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so1910859qyk.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.201.195 with SMTP id fb3mr2019069qab.160.1312567853088; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm2287728qct.32.2011.08.05.11.10.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RVx5R4j3dz2CG4y for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:10:51 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110805141051.4a84eec9@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:10:54 -0000 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:37:30 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: > If I find someone with an IQ of 160+ and they ask everyone to play > nice, will you? Mine is only 140 something so I don't feel qualified > to take this task on myself. It would be nice though if someone took > such offense to a post they would simply ignore it or contact OP > offline. Seem 50% of the content here is b!itching. Now sometimes, > and perhaps most times, it serves as a source of entertainment for > me. Others it's just annoying - such as now. With all this brain > power and apparently spare time, can anyone tell me how to get back > all the money I've lost in the market over the last 3 years? Or, > perhaps in the last 3 days? I would like some "help" with that! Obviously, you are not well versed with Will Rogers . "The way to make money is to buy stock at a low price, then when the price goes up, sell it. If the price doesn't go up, don't buy it." -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 18:14:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C23F106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from emlpirnp0.waddell.com (emlpirnp0.waddell.com [67.130.252.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B998FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com ([10.1.10.28]) by emlpirnp1.waddell.com with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2011 13:14:57 -0500 Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 597073C339 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:14:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com (advphtcas0.wradvisors.com [192.168.203.228]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E503C32F for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:14:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.133]) by ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com ([192.168.203.228]) with mapi; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:14:57 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: 'FreeBSD' Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:14:56 -0500 Thread-Topic: more information Thread-Index: AcxTm1LdhHpbKdLiSlmvGPVTrMtI6AAAAkhA Message-ID: <17134_1312568097_4E3C3321_17134_258_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521875B@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110805141051.4a84eec9@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110805141051.4a84eec9@scorpio> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:14:58 -0000 If only it were that easy! And excellent example of circular logic / illog= ic. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:11 PM To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: more information On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:37:30 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: > If I find someone with an IQ of 160+ and they ask everyone to play > nice, will you? Mine is only 140 something so I don't feel qualified > to take this task on myself. It would be nice though if someone took > such offense to a post they would simply ignore it or contact OP > offline. Seem 50% of the content here is b!itching. Now sometimes, > and perhaps most times, it serves as a source of entertainment for > me. Others it's just annoying - such as now. With all this brain > power and apparently spare time, can anyone tell me how to get back > all the money I've lost in the market over the last 3 years? Or, > perhaps in the last 3 days? I would like some "help" with that! Obviously, you are not well versed with Will Rogers . "The way to make money is to buy stock at a low price, then when the price goes up, sell it. If the price doesn't go up, don't buy it." If only it were that easy! And excellent example of circular logic / illog= ic.
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 18:30:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89A9106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from rc3.surewest.net (rc3.surewest.net [66.60.130.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2CF8FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4.surewest.net ([66.60.130.145]) by rc3.surewest.net ({9c3c9505-091b-4be1-8280-6f177375641d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20110805183028393; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:30:28 +0000 X-RC-FROM: Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by smtp4.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB4889719; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B19A29BF31; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.2.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 460ED165452; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:30:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1312569029; bh=Xb9OhD+X0bHr30wahmKGoBjeZp1uEEamwvVtc0gXgo8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3NtDlQIQ8MAHu2xVUFk3zS2GSkxn/EEL72sCTBFHiUMDWQYi7WNPBufV5//bmrk6p rrsZMgqrI6Hj8LmC0Vwt1i8i8Ykg+27Fw4xpzMf9dqaBSviDoD1xKJBz5fEtI5oXfg 0ECGYwRqmrkYzZOX6PCJ60VZRFRLk1Jf6LKCfVqk= Message-ID: <4E3C36CF.6060208@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:30:39 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> <4E3C2779.9070508@mykitchentable.net> <20110805135519.5771eff8@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110805135519.5771eff8@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:30:46 -0000 On 8/5/2011 10:55 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:25:13 -0700 > Drew Tomlinson articulated: > >> On 8/5/2011 9:40 AM, Mark Felder wrote: >>> On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:15:21 -0500, Drew Tomlinson >>> wrote: >>>> Just recently, I noticed that my server can't resolve for some >>>> names. The ones I've noticed are for Microsoft domains, >>>> specifically go.microsoft.com and time.windows.com. For example: >>>> >>> What kind of firewall stuff are you doing? Is it possible you're >>> dropping the DNS >>> replies when they're TCP? This happens when the reply is a certain >>> size. >> Thanks Mark. That may have something to do with it. I upgraded my >> wireless router to a Linksys E3000 a couple of days ago which is also >> my "firewall". This thing is a piece of crap! Lots of weirdness >> regarding port forwarding. Some works. Some doesn't. Tech support >> is worthless. I'm going to take it back and exchange for another. >> Hopefully a new one will work right. >> >> Anyway, put my previous router/firewall back in place and now my DNS >> server is able to resolve. Thus the firewalling thing was likely the >> problem. >> >> Any ideas on how to get Bind logging going? > I have experience with both the E3200 and E4200 models. I have not > worked with an E3000 before though. In any case, they are both > Wireless-N routers. FreeBSD does not play well with "N" wireless > devices. In any case, have you tried doing a hard reset of the router > and then rebooting it and then you system? > > In regards to tech support, at least in my experience with Linksys, if > you don't ask a specific question you are not going to get anywhere. I > have found e-mail support to be better or even the live support if > available. In any case, you can and I have requested a new support > representative and have received one. Sometimes it is just the > individual whom you are talking to cannot understand the question > correctly. Thank you Jerry. In my case, the FreeBSD boxes are hard wired so I don't think this will be a problem. I use the wireless for two Windows laptops, a Lexmark printer, and a Motorola Droid X. My specific issues with the E3000 were that even though remote management was properly configured and enabled, I could not access it remotely via https. I even tried disabling to SPI firewall with no success. Also in the single port forwarding, I had enabled the predefined SMTP service to point to my FreeBSD box on my local LAN. This worked. However I also enabled the predefined HTTP service to the same FreeBSD box and it wouldn't work. Additionally, I tried to forward some other ports as well like PPTP and IMAP/IMAPS but those wouldn't forward either. Using a packet sniffer on the PC on the Internet, I could see SYN packets leaving my PC but no ACKs returning. This same PC had no problems accessing all defined services with the old router in place. I had tried what I thought was a hard reset by pressing the reset button on the back of the e3000 and then reconfiguring. No luck. However I just read about a "30-30-30" reset on the DD-WRT wiki where you hold the reset for 30 sec, then power off for 30 sec, and then power on with reset pressed for another 30 sec. I'll try that when I get home. Otherwise this thing is going back to the store! Do you have any further suggestions? Cheers, Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 18:38:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7064106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9692A8FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so2262904qwc.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.87.212 with SMTP id x20mr1960777qcl.281.1312569521659; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w12sm2315058qct.12.2011.08.05.11.38.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RVxjX20Dfz2CG4y for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:38:39 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110805143839.0c23f17a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <17134_1312568097_4E3C3321_17134_258_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521875B@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110805141051.4a84eec9@scorpio> <17134_1312568097_4E3C3321_17134_258_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521875B@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:38:43 -0000 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:14:56 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: > If only it were that easy! And excellent example of circular logic / > illogic. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: > Friday, August 05, 2011 1:11 PM To: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: more information > > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:37:30 -0500 > Gary Gatten articulated: > > > If I find someone with an IQ of 160+ and they ask everyone to play > > nice, will you? Mine is only 140 something so I don't feel > > qualified to take this task on myself. It would be nice though if > > someone took such offense to a post they would simply ignore it or > > contact OP offline. Seem 50% of the content here is b!itching. > > Now sometimes, and perhaps most times, it serves as a source of > > entertainment for me. Others it's just annoying - such as now. > > With all this brain power and apparently spare time, can anyone > > tell me how to get back all the money I've lost in the market over > > the last 3 years? Or, perhaps in the last 3 days? I would like > > some "help" with that! > > Obviously, you are not well versed with Will Rogers > . > > > "The way to make money is to buy stock at a low price, then when the > price goes up, sell it. If the price doesn't go up, don't buy it." > > > If only it were that easy! And excellent example of circular logic / > illogic. 1) I assume you knew it was a joke. 2) Was it really necessary to post your reply at both extremes of the post; ie, top and bottom or where you just trying to appease both "top posters" and "bottom posters"? I actually did that a few times myself. The problem was that "Top Posters" never read to the bottom and therefore were not aware of the ploy. Upon further investigation, I determined that the majority of "top posters' were so dazed and confused that it just served no point. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 19:01:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73ECE106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5D38FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:01:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=yWCTVQcXzWf8mIEkKRzxB385mYRdlDOH3+QBcYzeQyo=; b=MwtgGVHMsnuEIyhLx69gkswp6lUizuhTm+qRalaDIGiKp8GKdSQFA1WkT2sF+hQXV9Q00jY6jMLKcwVfUvkzF8dR6+Spy8Uln+LVYKX7nkLwczLgepWpyJ0Mq6wSu9nZ; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QpPhX-000AN2-8B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:04:56 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1312571089-1570-1569/5/2; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:04:49 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> <4E3C2779.9070508@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:01:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4E3C2779.9070508@mykitchentable.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Subject: Re: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:01:40 -0000 On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:25:13 -0500, Drew Tomlinson =20 wrote: > Any ideas on how to get Bind logging going? Here's how we do it. named.conf: logging { channel "my_syslog" { syslog daemon; severity info; //print-time yes; //print-severity yes; //print-category yes; }; // below added for bind logging graphs =20 http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/laboratory/monitor/bind/modif.shtml channel "querylog" { // this is in a chroot, so it's actually at =20 /var/named/var/log/query.log file "/var/log/query.log" versions 3 size 1m; }; category queries { querylog; }; // don't log things that aren't our fault: category lame-servers { null; }; category update { null; }; }; syslog.conf: *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err;daemon.none= =20 /var/log/messages daemon.* /var/log/daemon.log newsyslog.conf: /var/log/daemon.log 644 7 * @T00 JC This seems to work great for us. Logs are in /var/log/daemon.log and get = =20 rotated. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 19:06:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0F5106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4203A8FC1D for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so964678vws.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:06:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=q1+zgtbyN+boIpubiBd2Dk1zzSwRcjSnigncdl7CKFo=; b=lTjpm3mQ1NN/okQ64+/31kYCna+0NCPenaIkpOiUMyxXhj5AULmAH7Wvaircl38U3v Or5Ao47cqzVSXt3D+TtaBatETDxSy7SJylB/06vypdVeVmtaQRBBQcPI91sqTWqygBj+ kP9by0RDl7tM5zf/7q7c8VyUNBH5903aMRzC8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.150.18 with SMTP id w18mr345666vcv.110.1312571163359; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.176.12 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:06:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110805141026.GB66340@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20110805141026.GB66340@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:06:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Dan Nelson , FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: listing ZFS pool name in fixit mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:06:04 -0000 Hi, The problem was that I forgot to load the tws kernel module (for the 3ware raid controler). After I manually loaded the module, all was fine. Thx for the reply :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 19:25:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC12106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953148FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so980305vws.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.177.6 with SMTP id bg6mr709521vcb.235.1312572320607; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bx8sm1242193vcb.35.2011.08.05.12.25.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RVylL51yJz2CG4y for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:25:18 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110805152518.47cdaaf9@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4E3C36CF.6060208@mykitchentable.net> References: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> <4E3C2779.9070508@mykitchentable.net> <20110805135519.5771eff8@scorpio> <4E3C36CF.6060208@mykitchentable.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:25:22 -0000 On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:30:39 -0700 Drew Tomlinson articulated: > Thank you Jerry. In my case, the FreeBSD boxes are hard wired so I > don't think this will be a problem. I use the wireless for two > Windows laptops, a Lexmark printer, and a Motorola Droid X. > > My specific issues with the E3000 were that even though remote > management was properly configured and enabled, I could not access it > remotely via https. I even tried disabling to SPI firewall with no > success. Also in the single port forwarding, I had enabled the > predefined SMTP service to point to my FreeBSD box on my local LAN. > This worked. However I also enabled the predefined HTTP service to > the same FreeBSD box and it wouldn't work. Additionally, I tried to > forward some other ports as well like PPTP and IMAP/IMAPS but those > wouldn't forward either. Using a packet sniffer on the PC on the > Internet, I could see SYN packets leaving my PC but no ACKs > returning. This same PC had no problems accessing all defined > services with the old router in place. > > I had tried what I thought was a hard reset by pressing the reset > button on the back of the e3000 and then reconfiguring. No luck. > However I just read about a "30-30-30" reset on the DD-WRT wiki where > you hold the reset for 30 sec, then power off for 30 sec, and then > power on with reset pressed for another 30 sec. I'll try that when I > get home. Otherwise this thing is going back to the store! > > Do you have any further suggestions? Off hand, no. I am assuming that you turned on https remote access in the router. Did you actually confirm that? I would suggest that you re-access your router and check it. If it is turned on, turn it off and save the setting then exit. Now reenter the router, re-enable the setting and save it. Now exit again. I have seen all types of devices, and I am sure you have also, that need to be "tricked" into working correctly. Did you configure the router to reserve the IP address of the FreeBSD box? If not, that could be a problem. I have seen it before. I am sure you have; however, are you absolutely sure you have the right IP addresses configured? Is "DMZ" turned on? If it is set to the FreeBSD box, turn off any other port forwarding to that box. If not, try turning it on and removing all the other port forwarding settings. See if it makes any difference. Without actually accessing the router all I can really do is guess. I do doubt that there is really a problem with it though; however, trying a new one might be a good idea. If possible, get the E4200 model. It is one "bad ass" router. Maybe someday FreeBSD will develop drivers for Wireless-N devices so that you can take advantage of its full potential. If all else fails, create a detailed BUG report and submitted it to linksys. It certainly cannot hurt and you might even get an answer directly from their tech department. One other idea, are you sure you have the latest firmware installed? It wouldn't hurt to double check. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 19:31:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54279106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@nyx.user-mode.org) Received: from nyx.user-mode.org (nyx.user-mode.org [81.169.165.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C0D8FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kar.user-mode.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nyx.user-mode.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46D4C242C03D for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:12:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:12:14 +0200 From: Christian Barthel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: "http://bc.user-mode.org/barthelc.asc" X-OS: GNU/Linux User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:31:01 -0000 Hello, I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must run under FreeBSD. I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. Are there any other window manager worth looking? What is your window manager? -- Christian Barthel Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc Mail: bc@nyx.user-mode.org Web: http://bc.user-mode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 19:46:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACED2106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8322A8FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QpQLk-00047V-IL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:46:05 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:46:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:46:27 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110805194627.GF88202@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GV0iVqYguTV4Q9ER" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:46:32 -0000 --GV0iVqYguTV4Q9ER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Christian Barthel on Friday, 05 August 2011: >=20 > Are there any other window manager worth looking?=20 >=20 > What is your window manager?=20 >=20 xmonad. Minimal, tiled, keyboard-driven but also mouseable, fully customizable via configuration files written in Haskell. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --GV0iVqYguTV4Q9ER Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOPEiTAAoJEIpckszW26+Ru40H/0TtTExa1acHouXrEENF3j/5 itwFHHhVDToBoLhELzc9gr1Ajxq20w4EBt3DRpDCsz+nijaO/sYOjWdwpU+mDnDk A9XZEl/ic5W4MBNz12HK0ZeFO61JklEy3lEKp5QrqJkGRq8GL6tJHIEyCuGGNUZj fFV0QZQnSNDZq0oHC7LIB37jaQCmQdD97XqlpDm1KsnvcDx/wWW1isDKRgvY7UqA /5JJ4SpUZCE5GOj/suwwIJmvOTa/5qGeff3/fFSw8QcZwxbUiYhCiCiPO9jh45Ft CT10VZ6wIRosVp8jkjea/MprvBRWZ7vUYEMtoquWIYuWdVwnL86zVCQbD5PGzMs= =qGvv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GV0iVqYguTV4Q9ER-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 19:52:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED91106566B for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7991D8FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so11004138pzk.18 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=k87Kutq8R0Tgjg4cnYbQ4tLWb0gjMBOFMWnM8nBY9VY=; b=n/+77bNhy1SyspTWd0hnshAL1Co4nPCEv99TdG4xxt0Zp7TG7OX01jfhwy3fE9HuS/ CTroiWrSZYqfShyjkRYH5UyLiv818zHYKQguSPNDFmO5vU1/5M7Px1J+Ot63/bwyZdOl hFgUAiAKg7DVZQVcNnHwx7w6GdVnN0MapEGko= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.18.5 with SMTP id v5mr2249303wfi.447.1312573935727; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: pldrouin@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.55.228 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:52:15 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9zF0IO-YSJEiI1uJ-Rk8m7J7HJ0 Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: Christian Barthel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:52:16 -0000 For me fluxbox is the way to go, since it is very light, has good key binding configuration and can be configured very easily. The only thing that I miss is the true transparency feature of Compiz, which can be quite useful sometimes, for example to quickly compare plots. Xfce is next on my list, since it got lots of features without being too heavy... On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Christian Barthel wrote: > Hello, > > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. > > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) > > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD. > > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. > > Are there any other window manager worth looking? > > What is your window manager? > > > -- > Christian Barthel > > Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc > Mail: bc@nyx.user-mode.org > Web: http://bc.user-mode.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 20:08:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1917A1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36418FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5101703E; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:53:29 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4E3C4A36.3030403@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:53:26 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Barthel References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:08:50 -0000 Christian Barthel wrote: > Hello, > > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. > > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) > > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD. > > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. > > Are there any other window manager worth looking? > > What is your window manager? > > ########### Aloha... I have used xfce3 since it came out years ago and it is sparce and fast with nothing unnecessary that you cant kill off. Very functional and no clutter or eye candy. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 20:16:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2956D106566C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:16:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FD88FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so585369qyk.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.1.99 with SMTP id 35mr2160682qce.84.1312575372912; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (ool-44c59c15.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.156.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o4sm2374325qct.37.2011.08.05.13.16.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E3C4F7F.7020506@xaerolimit.net> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:15:59 -0400 From: Chris Brennan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=D5B20C0C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDBCABB62EFF15C760DC68E0C" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:16:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDBCABB62EFF15C760DC68E0C Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060705060007040303010505" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060705060007040303010505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/5/2011 3:12 PM, Christian Barthel wrote: > Hello,=20 >=20 > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. I= t > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. = >=20 > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe= , > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) >=20 > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less= > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces= , > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD.=20 >=20 > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). = I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default w= m > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure.=20 >=20 > Are there any other window manager worth looking?=20 >=20 > What is your window manager?=20 >=20 >=20 Christian, I'm usually a fluxbox fanatic, but lately, I've been messing with other WM's just for the hell of it. Never was a fan of Gnome, 1.x or 2.x and KDE was just fugly as all getout. But that's just my opinion :D. XFCE4 was always my second choice for a WM, slightly more feature rich but not bloated like Gnome/KDE. If you want to wrastle (yes wrastle!) with gnome-lite[3], that could be a possibility for you as well (it's lite because it doesn't pull in *all* of the deps of a full gnome2 install but you can accidentily pull them in by installing something else) I'm a minimalist at heart, even when I have to use Windows, I prefer EmergeDesktop[1] over the default windows shell. So that said, Fluxbox has always fit the bill as to being as minimalistic yet extensible as I needed it to be when I needed it to be. If your *seriously* hardcore, you can check out ratpoison[2] (good luck on that ) To be perfectly square about it, I honestly went and installed all kinds of Window Managers, Gnome, KDE (yes I still do occasionally try new releases), KFCE, fluxbox/openbox/blackbox as well as a few more obscure and less/non-maintained WM's such as e17 and the ever fabled e18/e19 beta builds and yes, I even tried ratpoison (just keep in mind that the last news even for it was Dec. of '09. Good lucj on your quest for a WM and maybe ... document it for us, others might learn something from your trials and tribulations. [1] http://www.emergedesktop.org [2] http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/ [3] x11/gnome2-lite --=20 > Chris Brennan > -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ | http://xkcd.com/549/ > GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------060705060007040303010505-- --------------enigDBCABB62EFF15C760DC68E0C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOPE+DAAoJEO7NmoTVsgwMlUYH/3V8xhbZiAg+E5d16RI5o0pf NAnfKTEiYcvNmJNuHr61ljLJI4U6DHj3KQ3d+RgK+ugS3i/FuzVoNBEUbZA5Xux2 VGLKiV8FVoNzglVP5QMK79XY9ecNafz+9U0ZXh2gyRSVYyCXIcNIZIMf7X0Cd/A2 24YtzreOlw1cnc9l0rjrSghGWC1K20xD4HXiW8V4nUjkxJ8YfTYyXtjrPfLq4DKv CedUUuaiKEdgAu3NnEjTZl/m6pHASOHrWTZb04Su5bxHbgacziv40jyQKs7IpuFM Ts+TKF4PPXbtAQnL2eCX+ZuCW2xi+jjCHy7OmodXN7FvNI9uM2SBRm1NNWL/Nic= =xV9l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDBCABB62EFF15C760DC68E0C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 20:59:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F64D106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@stangl.us) Received: from stangl.us (stangl.us [66.93.193.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC4D8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from scout.stangl.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scout.stangl.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF1CB8D3 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:43:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stangl.us Received: from stangl.us ([127.0.0.1]) by scout.stangl.us (scout.stangl.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GWV4++AY8feq for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:43:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: by scout.stangl.us (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 570F2B8D0; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:43:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:43:46 -0500 From: Alex Stangl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110805204346.GA96133@scout.stangl.us> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805194627.GF88202@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110805194627.GF88202@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:59:32 -0000 On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:46:27PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > xmonad. Minimal, tiled, keyboard-driven but also mouseable, fully > customizable via configuration files written in Haskell. Another vote for xmonad. You may be startled at first to come up instantly to an empty screen, but you likely won't miss the bloat. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 21:07:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACA5106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@nyx.user-mode.org) Received: from nyx.user-mode.org (nyx.user-mode.org [81.169.165.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998868FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nyx.user-mode.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nyx.user-mode.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E4FD242C070 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:07:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:07:39 +0200 From: Christian Barthel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110805210739.GA23667@nyx.user-mode.org> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805194627.GF88202@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110805204346.GA96133@scout.stangl.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110805204346.GA96133@scout.stangl.us> X-PGP-Key: "http://bc.user-mode.org/barthelc.asc" X-OS: GNU/Linux User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 21:07:42 -0000 On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 03:43:46PM -0500, Alex Stangl wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:46:27PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > xmonad. Minimal, tiled, keyboard-driven but also mouseable, fully > > customizable via configuration files written in Haskell. > > Another vote for xmonad. You may be startled at first to come up > instantly to an empty screen, but you likely won't miss the bloat. Looks not as bloated as other wms. Where is the difference between xmonad and tmux ;) > > Alex > _______________________________________________ -- Christian Barthel Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc Mail: bc@nyx.user-mode.org Web: http://bc.user-mode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 20:31:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D161106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perquam@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F26C8FC15 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10so889003gyd.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:31:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wEJkFOXx5cdyHJy6HiTNvOHbuMxKCq97EYjJGjjkxhg=; b=L7aSRxc2p8ODqpZQeg70dYKNBKI++7zTzpYoMLw+bv5IiGZ58zAQqgxZl0YC8WSAtL Vlldwb6DWP1QlLWbAH4CHJKS9JXlCcMCPRRcldfaAmN+ursSj7FnRBiATzQ8WKPtvi+Y UXyXz7Hn2FhRf1PtlbLiFgh8pHC8k6GmYF7Eo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.72.29 with SMTP id u29mr595159yba.235.1312574466846; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.12.15 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:01:06 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Michalicki?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 21:42:54 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Michalicki?= Subject: TIOCGSERIAL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:31:21 -0000 Hi First, apologies if this is the wrong group to ask my question. I looked through all the group titles and this one looked suitable. The question is related to programming under FreeBSD. I have a certain device which can be hooked to a PC via RS232 connection. Since my PC does not have a true COM port, I am using an USB<->COM converter, which contains the FTDI chip. I wrote a program to handle the communications via the /dev/cuaU0, and all this works very well. The device at the other end has an UART which is capable of wild variety of baudrates, including standard rates of 19200, 38400 and 57600 bits per second. In my program on FreeBSD I am using that last baudrate. However, the "wild variety of baudrates" which can be used includes also such baudrates as 88, 98, 110 kbps and the highest possible one is 126 kbps (note: no 115,2 kbps). I'd like to use 126 kbps instead of 57,6 kbps. Now, it is possible on Linux using ioctl(TIOCGSERIAL) and ioctl(TIOCSSERIAL). As I understand, using these you can very precisely control the serial baudrate on COM ports (or at least on USB ports with an USB<->COM converter hooked up). Sadly, these do not seem available on FreeBSD. My question is: is there any equivalent of TIOCGSERIAL/TIOCSSERIAL available on FreeBSD, or maybe there is some special driver I could load and use? As I've written above, the USB<-> COM converter I use is the FTDI chip, but the uftdi module does not seem to provide such functionality. I do not want to write my own kernel module or FTDI device driver just for that purpose. The system is FreeBSD 6.4 but (judging from grep -r TIOCGSERIAL on /usr/include) this applies to 8.0 as well. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 22:19:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46E21065670 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from anakin.london.02.net (anakin.london.02.net [87.194.255.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB058FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by anakin.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E1D604000BC760E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:19:32 +0000 Message-ID: <4E3C6C74.8070500@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:19:32 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> <20110804212923.GA15233@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:19:35 -0000 On 05/08/2011 01:58, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Roland Smith wrote: > >> There are several possible drivers you could use; pcl3 pxlmono pxlcolor. >> The gutenprint (a.k.a. gimp-print) driver also supports your printer >> directly. > > ljet4 is the PCL5 driver, and anything with PCL6 is supposed to also > support PCL5. I'd suggest trying both ljet4 and pxlmono or pxlcolor and > going with whichever is faster. > >> However, I'd recommend that you take the time and install and configure >> CUPS. > > If CUPS is desired, sure. For just plain printing, lpr/lpd is often > easier to set up. > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks everyone for your suggestions and sorry not to reply before, I have limited access to this printer. Replying here to everyone who responded with ideas... I tried pxlmono, ljet4 and pcl3 with this /etc/printcap lp|local line printer|Kyocera:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/if-simpleps: this filter #!/bin/sh #printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 /usr/local/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -q -sDEVICE=pxlmono\ -sOutputFile=- - && exit 0 exit 2 and this command # lpr postscripttest.txt postscripttest.txt contains %!PS %100 100 moveto 300 300 lineto stroke %310 310 moveto /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont %( Is this thing working? ) show %showpage With all three drivers I got nothing out of the printer and nothing in lpd-errs. I installed some Kyocera software on a Windows computer and tried to change the emulation with it. I succeeded in setting it to have no default emulation but not to be set it to KPDL (the Kyocera version of PostScript). I rang Kyocera UK help line and they were very approachable (refreshing these days). They suggested I email and ask how to set the default emulation which I have done. It seems the printer normally receives some code as part of the print job which sets it to PS or whatever just for this job. If I could find out this code maybe I could write it into a filter. The printer is normally plugged into a Mac and I've found a utility which is supposed to change the default emulation. I hope to ask the printer owner to try it. I'm going to leave this now (I'm away for a few days) till I hear back from Kyocera and/or manage to get the default emulation set to KPDL. I did also try ijs and hpijs and that might still be worth pursuing but I will reply separately to Polytropons post. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 22:30:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F40106566C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64988FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so2444174gxk.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:30:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zCYv3AHfvm83486o951ix21PALr/5OgLAs7itRdUqZw=; b=oa4G5fCVYBMNWN3N6sAPtYFNvx9syGD7y1Y0K6LLyYleo2b0nRFWFK8Q3z/o9zOwAb DPRU1x7ZLTtRzESMlIUrd8xuB5sXengU1ABFu0zol87J9AMdQyZF6TwTsTHFLQ1Tbrnj mOJBU/MLPed+cQ+cYbmuLKHrsxqMn7TsGS3EY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.153.103 with SMTP id e67mr3665004yhk.154.1312581849961; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.105.203 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:04:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110805204346.GA96133@scout.stangl.us> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805194627.GF88202@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110805204346.GA96133@scout.stangl.us> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:04:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:30:45 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Alex Stangl wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:46:27PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >> xmonad. =A0Minimal, tiled, keyboard-driven but also mouseable, fully >> customizable via configuration files written in Haskell. > > Another vote for xmonad. You may be startled at first to come up > instantly to an empty screen, but you likely won't miss the bloat. > Like xmonad, but written in C . . . scrotwm. > Alex > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 22:43:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7999106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5A488FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31081 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2011 22:43:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2011 22:43:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=GT2kcYUfQYfoKCFw1iOuCqMJi8sI3y6fb9a08lqoE5M=; b=HjFGXczN8h91VL4PR3Q0Zmot1w73waxIAGudYtpjTPraKnz2pQtn11rQGWHivlj2tOx44gOKesKjalC8VNQDdJpTV7U2knRWPiFTG2OH7K8rilII9HDY5ky+LrAfmARZ; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpT7C-0002vI-Vw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:43:40 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:26:17 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:26:17 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110805222617.GA44875@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:43:41 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:17:13PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jerry wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0400 > > Alejandro Imass articulated: > > > > All he did was ask for some assistance; not for someone to do the actual > > assignment. Perhaps he could have worded it different; however, anyone > > with an IQ over 2 would have been aware of what his intent was. >=20 > Exactly my point, thanks: >=20 > With my humble IQ of 2, his e-mail reads "Please do my homework for me". I'm actually not entirely certain what the querent's intent was at this point, but I think that providing the URI for a helpful guide to asking questions effectively is actually very pertinent and useful to the recipient, if that person has any interest in learning. If not, well, no harm done. > > > > Personally, if I was his instructor, I would give him high marks on > > initiative for going straight to the source and seeking answers. I am >=20 > It's a good thing you are not! IMHO awarding laziness is not a good thing. Laziness is its own reward, when it is properly applied. For instance, writing code to accomplish a task many times in the future so you do not have to go through the motions all those many times yourself is an exercise of laziness that turns out to be both very productive and very rewarding. That is why laziness is one of the three virtues of a programmer, along with impatience and hubris. Of course abused laziness -- basically pushing off work on others or doing a crappy job for lack of interest in putting in the time and effort to do it right -- is "bad" laziness, and not the kind of "good" laziness I just described. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk48bgkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUcMwCgpBiOWJyMSY2kdecGU8x0XVOs J4UAoPWvyRLvyLqU3jLV2ZQyYtZJwZd+ =lVCq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 22:59:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B14106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041278FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p75Mx3NN023855; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:59:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p75Mx3J3023852; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:59:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:59:03 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chris Whitehouse In-Reply-To: <4E3C6C74.8070500@onetel.com> Message-ID: References: <4E397A48.8070600@onetel.com> <20110804212923.GA15233@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4E3C6C74.8070500@onetel.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:59:04 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:59:05 -0000 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > It seems the printer normally receives some code as part of the print job > which sets it to PS or whatever just for this job. If I could find out this > code maybe I could write it into a filter. The HP equivalent is PJL. Some searching suggests the FS-1030D supports PJL. HP printers also have an automatic mode, which looks at the first few characters of the print job and usually selects the right PDL. That might be an option with the Kyocera also. Here's a lightly-tested filter: #!/bin/sh # filter to wrap PJL commands around a PostScript file # WB 20110805 # send PJL header to switch to PostScript /usr/bin/printf "\033%%-12345X@PJL ENTER LANGUAGE = POSTSCRIPT\n" # send the PostScript file /bin/cat # end of job /usr/bin/printf "\033%%-12345X" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 23:04:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01231065673 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B90288FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23308 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2011 23:04:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2011 23:04:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=A9giYEVwXVvr8BM/0cfnNRhtJhUOuiu2duB7k93T0y4=; b=UAgE0rD6tj3+fwCHTD6ppqeMw+CHPJ2mKR3MUegFTcNSw1xDtqnD1DH3MAE7n7vvKLbJCBFIPiVRA/XzKWU+81MRR2tqfwdY5qs9BomRYlXIun/bXZtvjMyO9jmTV0YP; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpTRX-0007QZ-4N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:04:40 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:47:17 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:47:17 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110805224717.GB44875@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:04:41 -0000 --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:37:30PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: > > If I find someone with an IQ of 160+ and they ask everyone to play > nice, will you? Mine is only 140 something so I don't feel qualified > to take this task on myself. It would be nice though if someone took > such offense to a post they would simply ignore it or contact OP > offline. Seem 50% of the content here is b!itching. Now sometimes, > and perhaps most times, it serves as a source of entertainment for me. > Others it's just annoying - such as now. With all this brain power > and apparently spare time, can anyone tell me how to get back all the > money I've lost in the market over the last 3 years? Or, perhaps in > the last 3 days? I would like some "help" with that! Regarding IQ tests . . . there's not much point in comparing measurements. I've taken half a dozen or so IQ tests over the years. Among them, all but two have landed between 135 and 168, depending on the specific test, the scale used, what I had for breakfast that morning, my mood, the sort of uses to which I've put my brain in the year or two immediately preceding the test, my age, and numerous other factors. Those other two tests -- one of them came in under 100, and the other was off the charts to the tune of "+30 or more, probably a lot more" according to the guy scoring it. Add to that an SAT score from way back when the SATs actually measured aptitude and were considered suitable measures of IQ to qualify people for Mensa membership, with every single score I've gotten differing notably from all the rest, and the result seems obvious: Whatever each of you has for an IQ score from some test years ago, chances are good that if you took a test again you would get a wildly different result. =2E . . and let's not forget that deficiencies in some areas can drag your score down, while particular aptitudes can in others can drag it up, skewing the overall results in a way that might set unrealistic expectations one way or the other for judging general intelligence. Good at spacial relations, but bad at abstract logic? Maybe you'll end up confusing the hell out of people who think you're brilliant half the time and rock stupid the other half. As for your money lost to the market, you're going to have a tough time getting someone to tell you a foolproof way to get it back that does not involve time travel. If I had a pretty clear view of your investment patterns over the years that led to these losses, though, I could probably give you some halfway decent advice to avoid taking similar losses in the future. Unfortunately, it's much more difficult to predict future (safe) money-makers than to point out where someone is just gambling with market trends that represent aberrations rather than the consistent positive growth that they think it really represents, with a basic grasp of some driving economic principles. In general, my first piece of advice would be that you should never invest in something whose success you do not actually understand at the level of microeconomic principles. Next, consider the political landscape that might skew the effect of those principles. =2E . . and if you can do that, you should also be able to develop a pretty good intuition for dealing with security threats for your FreeBSD systems, because a lot of those threats are essentially the result of economic and political circumstances inspiring people to act according to their natures. Voila. By a long and circuitous route, I brought it back to the subject of FreeBSD. Do I get a cookie? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk48cvUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKURqgCffvDKT01khz3N2DJl8v6iXTUO PugAoN7mEIg09JZsrORBf6s+IrKNvrd1 =1A9u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 23:05:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB1C1065673 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fish.kungfu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9877F8FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxh11 with SMTP id 11so310380vxh.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:05:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PU/maQuSzQvxJIv7kogM7+5F0PeZb6bJxVhxoq7wv2g=; b=md9pHTP3+kd7L+9nbQ7MQUCgc2DSFTaujK+/WPLLjXaQp5psMng6dBfqPDoehqnKMD SEnpYi/pLqN565xoLQZUmaM/OON1kyod/30nh4NU1cWnbRSF4quwgdeA6gu8FUzlb7NB xznwxFqTXUqIgr6M5f+BfXyYaVMr9ZgjRr7pA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.174.201 with SMTP id bu9mr2765874vdc.282.1312583984053; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.183.234 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:39:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805194627.GF88202@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110805204346.GA96133@scout.stangl.us> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:39:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Fish Kungfu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:05:30 -0000 scrotwm is my main wm, but I also like fluxbox. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Alex Stangl wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:46:27PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > >> xmonad. Minimal, tiled, keyboard-driven but also mouseable, fully > >> customizable via configuration files written in Haskell. > > > > Another vote for xmonad. You may be startled at first to come up > > instantly to an empty screen, but you likely won't miss the bloat. > > > > Like xmonad, but written in C . . . scrotwm. > > > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 23:26:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4778A106566C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2701F8FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer (pool-72-77-28-206.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [72.77.28.206]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25F10B803; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:08:25 -0400 From: Rod Person To: Christian Barthel Message-Id: <20110805190825.d2cf7f06.rodperson@rodperson.com> In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:26:48 -0000 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:12:14 +0200 Christian Barthel wrote: > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. > > Are there any other window manager worth looking? > > What is your window manager? If you like Fluxbox you might want to try OpenBox. -- Rod Person From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 23:30:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC54C106566C for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838098FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywm39 with SMTP id 39so2462425ywm.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.183.131 with SMTP id q3mr3453845yhm.312.1312587053663; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.17.56.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w1sm3392893yhi.9.2011.08.05.16.30.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: FreeBSD Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:30:44 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110805224717.GB44875@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110805224717.GB44875@guilt.hydra> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201108052030.44397.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:30:56 -0000 On Friday 05 August 2011 19:47:17 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:37:30PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: > > If I find someone with an IQ of 160+ and they ask everyone to play > > nice, will you? Mine is only 140 something so I don't feel qualified > > to take this task on myself. It would be nice though if someone took > > such offense to a post they would simply ignore it or contact OP > > offline. Seem 50% of the content here is b!itching. Now sometimes, > > and perhaps most times, it serves as a source of entertainment for me. > > Others it's just annoying - such as now. With all this brain power > > and apparently spare time, can anyone tell me how to get back all the > > money I've lost in the market over the last 3 years? Or, perhaps in > > the last 3 days? I would like some "help" with that! > > Regarding IQ tests . . . there's not much point in comparing > measurements. I've taken half a dozen or so IQ tests over the years. > Among them, all but two have landed between 135 and 168, depending on the > specific test, the scale used, what I had for breakfast that morning, my > mood, the sort of uses to which I've put my brain in the year or two > immediately preceding the test, my age, and numerous other factors. > Those other two tests -- one of them came in under 100, and the other was > off the charts to the tune of "+30 or more, probably a lot more" > according to the guy scoring it. Add to that an SAT score from way back > when the SATs actually measured aptitude and were considered suitable > measures of IQ to qualify people for Mensa membership, with every single > score I've gotten differing notably from all the rest, and the result > seems obvious: Whatever each of you has for an IQ score from some test > years ago, chances are good that if you took a test again you would get a > wildly different result. > > . . . and let's not forget that deficiencies in some areas can drag your > score down, while particular aptitudes can in others can drag it up, > skewing the overall results in a way that might set unrealistic > expectations one way or the other for judging general intelligence. Good > at spacial relations, but bad at abstract logic? Maybe you'll end up > confusing the hell out of people who think you're brilliant half the time > and rock stupid the other half. > > As for your money lost to the market, you're going to have a tough time > getting someone to tell you a foolproof way to get it back that does not > involve time travel. If I had a pretty clear view of your investment > patterns over the years that led to these losses, though, I could > probably give you some halfway decent advice to avoid taking similar > losses in the future. Unfortunately, it's much more difficult to predict > future (safe) money-makers than to point out where someone is just > gambling with market trends that represent aberrations rather than the > consistent positive growth that they think it really represents, with a > basic grasp of some driving economic principles. > > In general, my first piece of advice would be that you should never > invest in something whose success you do not actually understand at the > level of microeconomic principles. Next, consider the political > landscape that might skew the effect of those principles. > > . . . and if you can do that, you should also be able to develop a pretty > good intuition for dealing with security threats for your FreeBSD > systems, because a lot of those threats are essentially the result of > economic and political circumstances inspiring people to act according to > their natures. > > Voila. By a long and circuitous route, I brought it back to the subject > of FreeBSD. Do I get a cookie? Yeah, Chad! and crispy one indeed. This IQ thing is really boring. Luckily, I never had to take an IQ test but I know that some people who took them didn't have an option. It was either it or the job. But actually, I'm not even curious about it. It is much more appealing to me to spend time studying and learning new things about FreeBSD for instance, than to spend time, as short as it may be, trying to find out how big my brain d**k is. A lazy bum with an IQ of 2000 is worthless while an energetic jack ass with an IQ of -100 at least can be used to pull a chariot or something. IQ tests can't point out character and diligence. Psychological profiles may do that but that's for another troll. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 23:40:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B6C106564A for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (unknown [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 479278FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13100 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2011 23:40:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2011 23:40:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=1GwX+LUoh2Dw18n3fZwrqxKVzEvBBO9J4QfrYv5dzW0=; b=kuahFkfXzPDmrOwiVCNXakQqyk4BPDhghJ548xAYDnDt+p5AGKKXIqWU11rrRaz7Fk4i6WGZNgk/wXRCXp3kL4F4Be3ZU7nlxyLMrgvqVYw1acHR49dJapibUvt3MLS+; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpU0E-00052A-Jm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:40:31 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:23:08 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:23:08 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110805232308.GC44875@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:40:32 -0000 --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:12:14PM +0200, Christian Barthel wrote: >=20 > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3.=20 As I recall, he made the switch from KDE to GNOME because of KDE 4 being a steaming turd, too. He must be getting tired of his favorite desktop environments going south on him. >=20 > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) >=20 > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD.=20 With these preferences, I wonder why you ever used GNOME at all. I commend your evolving preferences, though. I, too, like a window manager that stays out of my way and offers what I need to boost productivity rather than to coddle a desire for bells and whistles. Spinning cubes, menu fade effects, and panels/bars/docks strewn about the edges of my display do not serve those needs. >=20 > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure.=20 Fluxbox is definitely a step in the direction you seem to want to take with your future selection of window managers. It tends to be very "intuitive" to people who are familiar with the Windows, Icons, Menus, and Pointers model, including taskbars -- even though it does not by default support desktop icons (thank goodness). As a way to move toward less cluttered working environments, it is something I am often compelled to recommend for those who are used to the common style of UI dominated by panels/bars/docks and menus. I don't think of Fluxbox as a destination, though, so much as a stepping stone. >=20 > Are there any other window manager worth looking?=20 FreeBSD, last I checked, has a rare window manager called AHWM in ports. For floating window environments that interact well with the mouse, but are lightweight, with heavy support for keyboard-driven operation (in fact it leaves menu management up to third-party utilities, and otherwise assumes you will configure keyboard shortcuts; I skipped the menu and went with the keyboard shortcuts for everything), it is about as good and get-out-of-the-way efficient as a window manager can get. I'd bet money it involves fewer lines of code, smaller binary size, fewer dependencies, and smaller memory footprint than your terminal emulator; it's fast, stable, and flexible, and pretty much offers no eye candy at all whatsoever. After a long path from KDE through a dozen or so window managers over the years, I ended up with AHWM in 2005 or 2006, and stuck with it until the beginning of this year. As floating window environments go, it is easily my favorite window manager, period. This year, though, I finally started using a tiling window manager heavily. >=20 > What is your window manager?=20 I use i3 these days. It has some similarities to wmii, but i3 is pretty much the ideal introductory window manager for someone new to tiling window managers. That doesn't mean it's only good for beginners, though; it's really quite nice in its own right. If you aren't ready for a tiling window manager, or just don't like the tiling model, I refer you back to Fluxbox and AHWM, depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go. I hope that helps. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk48e1wACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW6HACeO6VsR8nFjPgEtRhLXvIQMGTc L30An2uJzuEi5sSQV25tyj5Y5ech1SH+ =U9/S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 00:53:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E181106566B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivanfrosty@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2908FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so2208180gwb.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:53:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HO9NzU7VX9ktQyqTdMdxaowq90BT3ftUdRXIMQE2rSI=; b=Yqpt4m/TqqWI3m0PAvmcDytZbbyu4+CXk44Pc8CKwesejEKRG1B7r4zbcBiHO8ENo6 ify0TeOdoyVZSYlnEoVihTzX1aRZf3g3t5zJ8T6ZuDhGvOitS2UyRr6a4pKc6xMSlxh0 R6Sni8AfBKrHO6qIWk9opLI3h5iONqjhdnF0c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.100.6 with SMTP id c6mr2529130anm.129.1312590425683; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.91.12 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:27:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110805232308.GC44875@guilt.hydra> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805232308.GC44875@guilt.hydra> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:27:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ivan Frosty To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:53:57 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:12:14PM +0200, Christian Barthel wrote: >> >> I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It >> seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. > > As I recall, he made the switch from KDE to GNOME because of KDE 4 being > a steaming turd, too. =A0He must be getting tired of his favorite desktop > environments going south on him. > > >> >> As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big >> mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, >> we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) >> >> I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less >> memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, >> and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must >> run under FreeBSD. > > With these preferences, I wonder why you ever used GNOME at all. =A0I > commend your evolving preferences, though. =A0I, too, like a window manag= er > that stays out of my way and offers what I need to boost productivity > rather than to coddle a desire for bells and whistles. =A0Spinning cubes, > menu fade effects, and panels/bars/docks strewn about the edges of my > display do not serve those needs. > > >> >> I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I >> think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm >> for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. > > Fluxbox is definitely a step in the direction you seem to want to take > with your future selection of window managers. =A0It tends to be very > "intuitive" to people who are familiar with the Windows, Icons, Menus, > and Pointers model, including taskbars -- even though it does not by > default support desktop icons (thank goodness). =A0As a way to move towar= d > less cluttered working environments, it is something I am often compelled > to recommend for those who are used to the common style of UI dominated > by panels/bars/docks and menus. =A0I don't think of Fluxbox as a > destination, though, so much as a stepping stone. > > >> >> Are there any other window manager worth looking? > > FreeBSD, last I checked, has a rare window manager called AHWM in ports. > For floating window environments that interact well with the mouse, but > are lightweight, with heavy support for keyboard-driven operation (in > fact it leaves menu management up to third-party utilities, and otherwise > assumes you will configure keyboard shortcuts; I skipped the menu and > went with the keyboard shortcuts for everything), it is about as good and > get-out-of-the-way efficient as a window manager can get. =A0I'd bet mone= y > it involves fewer lines of code, smaller binary size, fewer dependencies, > and smaller memory footprint than your terminal emulator; it's fast, > stable, and flexible, and pretty much offers no eye candy at all > whatsoever. > > After a long path from KDE through a dozen or so window managers over the > years, I ended up with AHWM in 2005 or 2006, and stuck with it until the > beginning of this year. =A0As floating window environments go, it is easi= ly > my favorite window manager, period. =A0This year, though, I finally start= ed > using a tiling window manager heavily. > > >> >> What is your window manager? > > I use i3 these days. =A0It has some similarities to wmii, but i3 is prett= y > much the ideal introductory window manager for someone new to tiling > window managers. =A0That doesn't mean it's only good for beginners, thoug= h; > it's really quite nice in its own right. =A0If you aren't ready for a > tiling window manager, or just don't like the tiling model, I refer you > back to Fluxbox and AHWM, depending on how far down the rabbit hole you > want to go. > > I hope that helps. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > fvwm2 anytime. --=20 Frosty-456 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 02:13:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1700106564A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 02:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99FA48FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 02:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17200 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2011 02:13:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2011 02:13:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=g9jY0gmwfURtp/LvMw9E52bxVlRDGz/8JvKlV37xUJw=; b=Olmso3hOYPlbh7mztDS1rgr1R6slqEOfENevLAn3nqS/FijiCNDsFLZpppcL88M+zYsxq71J8arEhD89oYLXc/LrUZwoqAQq5TkJXcXuW3hR4CFhhdxo6g2jvv75x3lo; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpWOI-0002by-K7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:13:31 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:56:09 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:56:09 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806015609.GA45455@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805194627.GF88202@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110805204346.GA96133@scout.stangl.us> <20110805210739.GA23667@nyx.user-mode.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110805210739.GA23667@nyx.user-mode.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:13:32 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 11:07:39PM +0200, Christian Barthel wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 03:43:46PM -0500, Alex Stangl wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:46:27PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > xmonad. Minimal, tiled, keyboard-driven but also mouseable, fully > > > customizable via configuration files written in Haskell. > >=20 > > Another vote for xmonad. You may be startled at first to come up > > instantly to an empty screen, but you likely won't miss the bloat. >=20 > Looks not as bloated as other wms.=20 >=20 > Where is the difference between xmonad and tmux ;) X Window System vs. console. Also, Haskell. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk48nzkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX5sACglViW5B/aOTUghVsInIS+s07G UaMAnR9sd/yOm+P+LBDDHyqrO1bq6Qhk =ywKn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 02:14:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDCB1065689 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 02:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAE3C8FC23 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 02:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32603 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2011 02:14:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2011 02:14:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=oI73UV1Ov4KVTgH/gH2DAIco4EYYdTFkPEozpMBc26E=; b=B3xtkmgvJPVHYFmKqXMEsrPb1xgOngziFqeuO7oKDVgflLR1GsnR+ZzPeNuLHuKsPN7O2RHwSj4dk5OkH3jbvOmalvzg40BfP50NJt8Mfh6gXbFrRIZ74+l1+KAL32Mm; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpWP0-0003Io-8t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:14:15 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:56:52 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:56:52 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806015652.GB45455@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805190825.d2cf7f06.rodperson@rodperson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110805190825.d2cf7f06.rodperson@rodperson.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:14:16 -0000 --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:08:25PM -0400, Rod Person wrote: > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:12:14 +0200 > Christian Barthel wrote: > > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure.=20 > >=20 > > Are there any other window manager worth looking?=20 > >=20 > > What is your window manager?=20 >=20 > If you like Fluxbox you might want to try OpenBox.=20 Nah. Stick with Fluxbox. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEUEARECAAYFAk48n2QACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU0jgCVF2NYrHw7B2ja9pcEIYAL26kQ sgCgr0c0NlsHirARbAJccEfnT4vaZ+g= =urNF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 02:15:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C6A106568E for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 02:15:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09D178FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 02:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3584 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2011 02:15:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2011 02:15:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=2aT1Ia6kt+FKKM+C4BtB8hpMGtLdIQGiYWXBTq0ggNo=; b=Zb/hkeU050rwf3FjCCtq0ljcnvi6//Bz10GrtVYrJLlmLSXKUZovuabZPSpInG0JB6QRsE5Av+lnZN1/smhdVgGZkPDH25B/QIyJrAwSIZAQ9+N5zmVX1BhxlnxBJd1A; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpWPq-0004Jz-Du for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:15:07 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:57:44 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:57:44 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806015744.GC45455@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805232308.GC44875@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:15:08 -0000 --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 05:27:05PM -0700, Ivan Frosty wrote: >=20 > fvwm2 anytime. I suppose that's an option, but it's kinda bloated for my tastes. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk48n5gACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW67gCfYWzpFr61tZTu2tte5AWwa1gY TRkAn1bVrf58ZHVOdHHbOsXmH06b32BT =78Q6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7qSK/uQB79J36Y4o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 03:46:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00ACF106564A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 03:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitri@momus.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9928FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 03:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi36 with SMTP id 36so1971173wwi.31 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.79.18 with SMTP id h18mr2671052wee.3.1312600828164; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:20:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.154.196 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:20:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [184.99.254.236] In-Reply-To: <20110806015652.GB45455@guilt.hydra> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805190825.d2cf7f06.rodperson@rodperson.com> <20110806015652.GB45455@guilt.hydra> From: Dmitri Brengauz Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:20:08 -0600 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 03:46:06 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:08:25PM -0400, Rod Person wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:12:14 +0200 > > Christian Barthel wrote: > > > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). > I > > > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default > wm > > > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. > > > > > > Are there any other window manager worth looking? > > > > > > What is your window manager? > > > > If you like Fluxbox you might want to try OpenBox. > > Nah. Stick with Fluxbox. > > Sorry, but why? I went with OpenBox, because it seemed like it was under current development, and Fluxbox is stagnant, otherwise, I didn't see much difference. But I do find it curious that so many on this thread are recommending Fluxbox, and almost no one OpenBox. What would be the reason? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 03:52:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE941065673 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 03:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0928FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 03:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p763qlDP001541 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:52:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4E3CBA8E.7060208@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:52:46 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110716 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: top(1) loses process user time count when threads end X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 03:52:47 -0000 I have the process that first runs in 3 threads but later two active threads exit. top(1) shows this moment this way (1 sec intervals): 30833 yuri 3 76 0 4729M 4225M nanslp 4 0:32 88.62% app 30833 yuri 3 76 0 4729M 4225M nanslp 6 0:34 90.92% app 30833 yuri 1 96 0 4729M 4225M CPU1 1 0:03 1.17% app 30833 yuri 1 98 0 4729M 4226M CPU1 1 0:04 12.89% app Process time goes down: 0:34 -> 0:03. Also WCPU goes down 90.92% -> 1.17% even though this process is CPU bound and does intense things right after threads exit. getrusage(2) though, called in the process, shows the correct user time. I think this is the major bug in the process time accounting. 8.2-STABLE Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 07:30:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAA61065670 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 07:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D768FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 07:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p767UXbF042135 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:30:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p767UXsB042134; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA23336; Sat, 6 Aug 11 00:25:53 PDT Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:25:52 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: perrin@apotheon.com Message-Id: <4e3d4ef0.ZVCQlpdDDQ89BwoY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110805224717.GB44875@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110805224717.GB44875@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:30:36 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > Do I get a cookie? Only if you visit a web site that uses them, and have them enabled in your browser :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 08:36:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A968106566B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2508FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12so3106603vws.17 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.172.199 with SMTP id be7mr109957vdc.134.1312619648374; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 01:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.25.7 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 01:34:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.174.215] In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 10:34:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Christian Barthel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:36:30 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Christian Barthel wrote: > What is your window manager? +1 for fluxbox. Minimalistic, functional, very easy to configure. Using it for a long time and no desire to change. I used fvwm2 and ctwm before, and I still like and use olvwm every now and then. > Christian Barthel -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 09:32:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marseilles.france (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442B3106566B; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashish@freebsd.org) Received: from marseilles.france (marseilles.france [IPv6:::1]) by marseilles.france (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ECD260BD8; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:52:42 +0100 (WEST) From: ashish@FreeBSD.org (Ashish SHUKLA) To: Christian Barthel Organization: The FreeBSD Project References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl; t7 X-Uptime: 20:49:25 up 2:23, 1 user, load average: 0.40, 0.20, 0.12 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux/Linux 2.6.39-ARCH/x86_64 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= Organisation: The FreeBSD Project Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:52:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> (Christian Barthel's message of "Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:12:14 +0200") Message-ID: <877h6riqk9.fsf@marseilles.france> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 09:32:36 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christian Barthel writes: > Hello,=20 > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3.=20 > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD.=20 > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure.=20 > Are there any other window manager worth looking?=20 > What is your window manager?=20 If you want efficient window manager (i.e. can be operated using keybinding= s), and you're into tiling window managers, then you can try Xmonad[1], or awesome[2] window manager. OR if you don't want tiling window manager, then you can try Fluxbox and customize with keybindings, and it works great. References: [1] http://www.xmonad.org/ [2] http://awesome.naquadah.org/ HTH =2D-=20 Ashish SHUKLA | GPG: F682 CDCC 39DC 0FEA E116 20B6 C746 CFA9 E74F A4B0 freebsd.org!ashish | http://people.freebsd.org/~ashish/ Avoid Success At All Costs !! --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOPEoKAAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwjuUP/1kqYtKvu6rGBm2k6gHPOfTl 2cnqaBiopiHkg3ZryCnOPmfj2MACU8KUumAv/1iwDNxavKqNmHPphcb7tk2AmM8f g6Lm1MW7cOvszpdxkzP0Xgcb/EUI1k5KKXcrH//yL9s8xjeYledIpPLlgJRNfMDQ EMwIc/HenJAy+ToPuA6hgwVb9kVBwzHHhbH/uizWRG/ocqtMgV6rv0F+jUO7ww6X 8S1hLxRUwCcaCBJSJ+UP7wuaPwcB6MZSlzecUxK18SZeARgSDYPQueMRnjZp8l8Z 39FnF3L9xtOCyFyTA8rzBs7sCOSOPpeV3NIduHVinFeUSrus8w2CDh0ZrbxlyHWj EFFcawVU/Amj/7wpMAvRkrRbdhnpcB+t8OdnDN91EHNwiUfq32MUsGQ/aNqgl910 DeMMsrbLQvSbWvm+KJ61cj+luyqW0UmqhCY9cMUP8mor0t074S6ksMVPvIePHeju sfrUNuvnDoQc+EI2vGxDonW+lWwO58EL2X+/Ye0JO6gC2WYxwhGoMQznlH5VLUwe F0DCjwztDB0Zx8rRMT15zj/Vs9Mz+e3upPwl/I0kMVuWtGzoZ3/yD5Cu2foyW7sA uNo17yNKZVYL6ajnfWlDsoMuK8ujPieOySEKkhYaBxlalHZootwghR8KLHS99iGN cNi0/qeOXR2O4Qji0Bdt =B/N2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 14:41:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6725F106566B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 14:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C1038FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 14:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19995 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2011 14:41:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2011 14:41:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=vP98FOYA7UySyqoGfcU8nGA463ondagMcIXdLWwW61w=; b=hsEdFDRjpoUWOSPCnEvKdh4xFOs2UaF11kOjjbbiqy4WyOikU0toyMKTscL8UVtRvvtbfUGZzCX8PA9O/urE9OpK4WY/8ZF2QAZr6OOyZaYX71mmrH89xqifYjXUcxos; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpi3m-0000GJ-ME for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:41:07 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:23:43 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:23:43 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806142343.GA48611@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1312507087.17371.YahooMailNeo@web161605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20110805114346.2096c239@scorpio> <20110805130032.4adf2325@scorpio> <5720_1312565851_4E3C2A5B_5720_14_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C5218757@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110805224717.GB44875@guilt.hydra> <4e3d4ef0.ZVCQlpdDDQ89BwoY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4e3d4ef0.ZVCQlpdDDQ89BwoY%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: more information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:41:08 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 07:25:52AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > > Do I get a cookie? >=20 > Only if you visit a web site that uses them, > and have them enabled in your browser :) I accept or deny on a site-by-site basis. I wouldn't want to get one with cranberries in it. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk49Tm8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUXEwCg+DHS81OIJgPSIzWm0bPwjNky BBkAoNHjAzZG1rR1A3DEiF1bhUht8RKT =UfzK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 14:44:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCB9106568B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 14:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB0808FC1B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 14:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29549 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2011 14:44:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2011 14:44:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=LdC92aJghADwmMMHj2R9D53UXkE7SpaEJmL22SUHz0s=; b=iA+I2jQ2d5vgpFkN9zoOocgle4UVXH8V8ExW4FDAapAvWbNUfK9Rved7c/oPEtvh5Tl7HsfxcxMUCpNLlOoj+zh8Y+0CuavTq2qQqtIyhydBRVyeTZ2q298WBG2y3i4I; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpi6c-00031a-7A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:44:03 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:26:39 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:26:39 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806142639.GB48611@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805190825.d2cf7f06.rodperson@rodperson.com> <20110806015652.GB45455@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jho1yZJdad60DJr+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:44:04 -0000 --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:20:08PM -0600, Dmitri Brengauz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:08:25PM -0400, Rod Person wrote: > > > > > > If you like Fluxbox you might want to try OpenBox. > > > > Nah. Stick with Fluxbox. > > Sorry, but why? I went with OpenBox, because it seemed like it was under > current development, and Fluxbox is stagnant, otherwise, I didn't see much > difference. But I do find it curious that so many on this thread are > recommending Fluxbox, and almost no one OpenBox. What would be the reaso= n? Fluxbox supports window tabbing. Last I checked, OpenBox did not. In fact, amongst the 'box window managers, window tabbing is pretty much the killer feature. That, and it has a better license than OpenBox. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk49Tx8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUcFgCguaOLbAM8ig62w4Tjyxi2ZhL+ VSYAn290CzXgJkyo4D/BC50Cs3Jowq4G =7tGs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jho1yZJdad60DJr+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 16:11:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B955B106566B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 16:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@nyx.user-mode.org) Received: from nyx.user-mode.org (nyx.user-mode.org [81.169.165.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EDC8FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 16:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nyx.user-mode.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nyx.user-mode.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C221242C028 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 18:11:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 18:11:33 +0200 From: Christian Barthel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806161133.GA20450@nyx.user-mode.org> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> X-PGP-Key: "http://bc.user-mode.org/barthelc.asc" X-OS: GNU/Linux User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:11:37 -0000 On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:12:14PM +0200, Christian Barthel wrote: > Hello, > > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. > > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) > > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD. > > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. > > Are there any other window manager worth looking? > > What is your window manager? So far, thank's for your hints. It's very interesting to read the different opinions... (this is still one of the great things about FreeBSD: a great community) I think AfterStep isn't intersting anymore, actually - I really like afterstep ;) Most users recommend fluxbox or a very slight, tiling window manager, xmonad. In the next few days, I will try OpenBOX and xmonad. Then, I have tested enough wms ... > > > -- > Christian Barthel > > Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc > Mail: bc@nyx.user-mode.org > Web: http://bc.user-mode.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Christian Barthel Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc Mail: bc@nyx.user-mode.org Web: http://bc.user-mode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 15:33:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB661065675 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 15:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@tntpro.net) Received: from lunar.tntpro.net (cpe-72-224-105-29.maine.res.rr.com [72.224.105.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5673C8FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 15:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outsider (nanostation1.tntpro.net [192.168.0.160]) by lunar.tntpro.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with SMTP id p76EtsvM051409 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 10:55:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tony@tntpro.net) Message-ID: <59F71B334F3241138FEB238C3875D4D5@outsider> From: "Tony" To: "FreeBSD" References: <4E3C1719.7030509@mykitchentable.net> <4E3C2779.9070508@mykitchentable.net><20110805135519.5771eff8@scorpio> <4E3C36CF.6060208@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 10:59:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:38:43 +0000 Subject: Re: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:33:58 -0000 DD-WRT.COM !!! Stock linksys firmware sucks, go check out the dd-wrt project, you will not be dissapointed! http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1 http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys_E3000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "FreeBSD" Cc: "Jerry" Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Help with Bind Weirdness & Logging > On 8/5/2011 10:55 AM, Jerry wrote: >> On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:25:13 -0700 >> Drew Tomlinson articulated: >> >>> On 8/5/2011 9:40 AM, Mark Felder wrote: >>>> On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:15:21 -0500, Drew Tomlinson >>>> wrote: >>>>> Just recently, I noticed that my server can't resolve for some >>>>> names. The ones I've noticed are for Microsoft domains, >>>>> specifically go.microsoft.com and time.windows.com. For example: >>>>> >>>> What kind of firewall stuff are you doing? Is it possible you're >>>> dropping the DNS >>>> replies when they're TCP? This happens when the reply is a certain >>>> size. >>> Thanks Mark. That may have something to do with it. I upgraded my >>> wireless router to a Linksys E3000 a couple of days ago which is also >>> my "firewall". This thing is a piece of crap! Lots of weirdness >>> regarding port forwarding. Some works. Some doesn't. Tech support >>> is worthless. I'm going to take it back and exchange for another. >>> Hopefully a new one will work right. >>> >>> Anyway, put my previous router/firewall back in place and now my DNS >>> server is able to resolve. Thus the firewalling thing was likely the >>> problem. >>> >>> Any ideas on how to get Bind logging going? >> I have experience with both the E3200 and E4200 models. I have not >> worked with an E3000 before though. In any case, they are both >> Wireless-N routers. FreeBSD does not play well with "N" wireless >> devices. In any case, have you tried doing a hard reset of the router >> and then rebooting it and then you system? >> >> In regards to tech support, at least in my experience with Linksys, if >> you don't ask a specific question you are not going to get anywhere. I >> have found e-mail support to be better or even the live support if >> available. In any case, you can and I have requested a new support >> representative and have received one. Sometimes it is just the >> individual whom you are talking to cannot understand the question >> correctly. > > Thank you Jerry. In my case, the FreeBSD boxes are hard wired so I don't > think this will be a problem. I use the wireless for two Windows laptops, > a Lexmark printer, and a Motorola Droid X. > > My specific issues with the E3000 were that even though remote management > was properly configured and enabled, I could not access it remotely via > https. I even tried disabling to SPI firewall with no success. Also in > the single port forwarding, I had enabled the predefined SMTP service to > point to my FreeBSD box on my local LAN. This worked. However I also > enabled the predefined HTTP service to the same FreeBSD box and it > wouldn't work. Additionally, I tried to forward some other ports as well > like PPTP and IMAP/IMAPS but those wouldn't forward either. Using a > packet sniffer on the PC on the Internet, I could see SYN packets leaving > my PC but no ACKs returning. This same PC had no problems accessing all > defined services with the old router in place. > > I had tried what I thought was a hard reset by pressing the reset button > on the back of the e3000 and then reconfiguring. No luck. However I just > read about a "30-30-30" reset on the DD-WRT wiki where you hold the reset > for 30 sec, then power off for 30 sec, and then power on with reset > pressed for another 30 sec. I'll try that when I get home. Otherwise > this thing is going back to the store! > > Do you have any further suggestions? > > Cheers, > > Drew > > -- > Like card tricks? > > Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to > learn card magic secrets for free! > > http://alchemistswarehouse.com > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 17:47:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2C81065672 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77AB8FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer (pool-72-77-28-206.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [72.77.28.206]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA92BB803; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 13:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 13:47:49 -0400 From: Rod Person To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20110806134749.1efef285.rodperson@rodperson.com> In-Reply-To: <20110806142639.GB48611@guilt.hydra> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805190825.d2cf7f06.rodperson@rodperson.com> <20110806015652.GB45455@guilt.hydra> <20110806142639.GB48611@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:47:51 -0000 On Sat, 6 Aug 2011 08:26:39 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > Sorry, but why? I went with OpenBox, because it seemed like it was > > under current development, and Fluxbox is stagnant, otherwise, I > > didn't see much difference. But I do find it curious that so many > > on this thread are recommending Fluxbox, and almost no one > > OpenBox. What would be the reason? > > Fluxbox supports window tabbing. Last I checked, OpenBox did not. In > fact, amongst the 'box window managers, window tabbing is pretty much > the killer feature. > > That, and it has a better license than OpenBox. I'll agree that Fluxbox license is better. But I find OpenBox more responsive and it seem to just look better to me. I'm not a fan of tabbing so that doesn't matter to me. I've been using Openbox as my WM for 4 or 5 years, before that it was Fluxbox. -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com "If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold" blue beetle - MetaFilter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 19:29:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FDD106566B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 19:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A6A8FC17 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 19:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [91.229.248.23]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FB425B06; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:00:14 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:28:56 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806192856.GD8066@external.screwed.box> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: Why does Perl ExtUtils::MakeMaker install hang on FBSD Jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:29:20 -0000 God love is hard to find. You got lucky freebsd-questions! 2011/08/04 13:23:04 -0400 Alejandro Imass => To FreeBSD Questions : AI> The MakeMaker build hangs in the test: INSTALL_BASE.t I had that same problem too, AI> the only person using the CPAN shell on an Jail ! ... but had no idea if it happens only in a jail. Looking at the ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm instances in my $PREFIX/lib/perl5 I concluded that lang/perl5.X ports use to install several of them. That managed me to install the latest and greatest EU::MM from CPAN's .tar.gz (6,57 I think) and the only problem I have now is 'Need the 6.42 but we have an unknown version' warning but thiungs are just ok. You'd better ask in -perl@ list? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 21:28:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CAD106564A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 21:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C84E8FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 21:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so1023627fxe.13 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:28:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w28lL2cwCVYBinUneEZehuUXc1X5N4QrJKodUPzWs+U=; b=aIrCJjiJFslxxxMotCblV/4AS9hq5QXYaA5PknOy79wrMfmOYXsIzSGmGWH6/8WXcC 2ZqjBCoYO+FhZkgMmiaUzOxYMFWpqUDKajc6W8Kc/kbkKyfcpWgzZpQoY/62xgV2UsNP DU6yHQ2A7FZyqf1Aaa0djDpEAlHakzoJIPi7U= Received: by 10.223.7.10 with SMTP id b10mr4994550fab.76.1312664716891; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from limbo.lan ([195.225.157.86]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e10sm2958623fak.18.2011.08.06.14.05.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E3DAC88.3050509@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 00:05:12 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110702 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Barthel References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:28:22 -0000 05.08.2011 22:12, Christian Barthel wrote: > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) Once a year I build up a Gnome or KDE to look at all this stuff... Then I go back to E17. > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD. > > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. > > Are there any other window manager worth looking? > > What is your window manager? 0k, I'll describe mine one for you: = Enlightement 17 = Eyecandy: 5. Maybe you don't need that, but that's doesn't eats up your cpu and mem. I think only KDE4 or MacOS can beat this one. Memory: 4. The process eats up 30M on i386. Most plugins are loaded as modules so it's fairly light for most machines. CPU: 4. With all eyecandy and staff it eats something about 18 secs per hour for me in average. It can eat more if some heavy plugins are loaded. Configuration: 4. Not 5 because there's no text files for that. Apart that everything can be changed. I prefer unloading most modules like file manager, desktops, taskbars and other staff staying only with desktop, gadgets and fullscreen windows. You can set everything to work without a mouse, or you can set everything to work only with mouse. It gives me even higher level of freedom as XFCE. Also it works perfectly with two monitors, while XFCE shows garbage on second one... Maybe I'm missing something though. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 22:49:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D08106566B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8788F8FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p76MnDsd027578 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:49:13 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-141-130.as13285.net [92.22.141.130]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p76MnCG3027571 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:49:13 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B626433C1F; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:49:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:49:12 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806224912.GA18950@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805190825.d2cf7f06.rodperson@rodperson.com> <20110806015652.GB45455@guilt.hydra> <20110806142639.GB48611@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110806142639.GB48611@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:49:16 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 08:26:39AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:20:08PM -0600, Dmitri Brengauz wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:08:25PM -0400, Rod Person wrote: > > > > > > > > If you like Fluxbox you might want to try OpenBox. > > > > > > Nah. Stick with Fluxbox. > > > > Sorry, but why? I went with OpenBox, because it seemed like it was und= er > > current development, and Fluxbox is stagnant, otherwise, I didn't see m= uch > > difference. But I do find it curious that so many on this thread are > > recommending Fluxbox, and almost no one OpenBox. What would be the rea= son? >=20 > Fluxbox supports window tabbing. Last I checked, OpenBox did not. In > fact, amongst the 'box window managers, window tabbing is pretty much the > killer feature. Despite using Fluxbox for a number of years, I wasn't even aware of tabbing. The only thing I can think of tabbing is xterms but I use tmux for that. What do you use tabbing for? >=20 > That, and it has a better license than OpenBox. >=20 Never worried about the license. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk49xOcACgkQHduKvUAgeK7P5QCgi9QPMwHiqfLKzE7gM9OsQmHB mu8AoKrttTPa5qZoA1uuXjWEv4860yIA =T7lL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 23:47:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8DC106564A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E864F8FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:47:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so2487132gwb.13 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.87.18 with SMTP id p18mr1522406ybl.172.1312674465738; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.17.56.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m3sm2184057ybc.7.2011.08.06.16.47.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:47:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 20:47:36 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201108062047.36472.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: High interrupt rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 23:47:48 -0000 Hi there; My system is a FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 13 17:32:44 BRT 2011 i386 I have 4 nics. sis0, rl0, vr0 and dc0. The last three are in polling mode (which I did to see if it would decrease the int amount). The int rate for sis0 is low. vmstat -i reports: interrupt total rate irq6: fdc0 1 0 irq14: ata0 163039 6 irq15: ata1 29 0 irq19: sis0 vr0 688525 29 irq20: ohci0 27 0 irq23: ehci0 2 0 cpu0: timer 46922025 2000 cpu1: timer 46918117 1999 Total 94691765 4036 But top reports: last pid: 5163; load averages: 0.04, 0.09, 0.08 up 0+06:30:13 20:13:59 144 processes: 3 running, 121 sleeping, 20 waiting CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.2% system, 24.0% interrupt, 74.8% idle Mem: 42M Active, 154M Inact, 116M Wired, 96K Cache, 112M Buf, 1667M Free Swap: 4000M Total, 4000M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 2 171 ki31 0K 16K CPU0 0 706:33 103.37% idle 12 root 20 -32 - 0K 160K WAIT 1 67:16 97.46% intr 0 root 10 -68 0 0K 72K - 1 1:34 2.98% kernel Systat reports: 1 users Load 0.12 0.11 0.08 Aug 6 20:15 Mem:KB REAL VIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share Tot Share Free in out in out Act 56096 5076 194524 9784 1706152 count All 113900 6624 2341492 13732 pages Proc: Interrupts r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt cow 4042 total 73 6150 10 405 44 30k zfod fdc0 irq6 ozfod ata0 irq14 1.5%Sys 25.0%Intr 0.0%User 0.0%Nice 73.5%Idle %ozfod ata1 irq15 | | | | | | | | | | | daefr 44 sis0 vr0 1 =++++++++++++ prcfr ohci0 20 5 dtbuf totfr ehci0 23 Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 600000 desvn react 1999 cpu0: time Calls hits % hits % 27121 numvn pdwak 1999 cpu1: time 943 frevn pdpgs intrn Disks ad0 ad1 cd0 pass0 118476 wire KB/t 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 43796 act tps 0 0 0 0 157764 inact MB/s 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 96 cache %busy 0 0 0 0 1706056 free 114880 buf I know 75% idle is not bad but this machine, when not under load on a saturday night like today, used to be at around 98% idle 99% of the time. Now its is at 72% idle 99.9% of the time. It has been like this all day. The only things with a high interrupt rate are cpu0: timer 46922025 2000 cpu1: timer 46918117 1999 What could be causing this? thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 23:57:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F75106566B for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (unknown [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3309F8FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10681 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2011 23:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2011 23:57:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=UPS4Gw99B0cOgSWU5Lrvpccc/jjcYM+pY9O7gUpN8L0=; b=KrJ3XjhmSc/8dbyJFvROkP2mPtggWIVOao+oS2JfVZPxf7MXNKsRa5mrqKTsarRp1K0LQa3cnX2OGC2OJwI4BbIUqnQ+WLU6jUwx/2QMjixZ2VQ4zJcTPzszve3BV1Lx; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpqkL-000644-AI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:57:38 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:40:13 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:40:13 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110806234013.GA50294@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110805190825.d2cf7f06.rodperson@rodperson.com> <20110806015652.GB45455@guilt.hydra> <20110806142639.GB48611@guilt.hydra> <20110806224912.GA18950@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110806224912.GA18950@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 23:57:39 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 11:49:12PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 08:26:39AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > >=20 > > Fluxbox supports window tabbing. Last I checked, OpenBox did not. In > > fact, amongst the 'box window managers, window tabbing is pretty much t= he > > killer feature. >=20 > Despite using Fluxbox for a number of years, I wasn't even aware of > tabbing. The only thing I can think of tabbing is xterms but I use > tmux for that. What do you use tabbing for? I use it for stacking windows together with tabs. What else? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk490N0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWkCgCg11OLDtj7Dii7IBsfWT80eanw zKgAnjM+xe/WnyJcZKvWtMAQwvYWz4Tq =abJg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy--