From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 24 19:17:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA28987 for current-outgoing; Fri, 24 May 1996 19:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (h196-7-192-132.iafrica.com [196.7.192.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA28981 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 19:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA03712; Sat, 25 May 1996 04:16:03 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199605250216.EAA03712@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: editors To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 04:16:01 +0200 (SAT) Cc: rnordier@iafrica.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, stephen@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk, terry@lambert.org In-Reply-To: <199605250106.SAA19308@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at May 24, 96 06:06:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > ... > > > > Hmm. Half the trouble with the whole 'editors' thread is that > > people simply aren't digging deep enough to recall some of the > > really hairy, insane, and plain disgusting text editors around. > > > > If is all very well for some to dismiss 'vi' as an abomination, > > but.... > > > > Anyone with a VMS background remember TECO? > > TECO predates VMS and the VAX by a Decade or so, try ``Anyone with a > DEC PDP-8 OS/8 background remeber TECO?'', circa 1968. And yes, TECO > was the first editor I ever learned... and remeber this was in the > days of the ASR33 and Tektronics 4002 DVST terminals. True, but we're still not going back far enough. :) Dan Murphy wrote TECO - in the days when it was still (paper) _Tape_ Editor and Corrector - originally for the PDP-1. This was even in the largely pre-terminal, pre-ASCII days. The first TECO used a 6-bit character set called FIO-DEC; and ASCII came along with a port to the PDP-6. Good to hear from a genuine TECO user. I guess Emacs has quite an ancestry. -- Robert Nordier