From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 14:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466BC37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (parmenides.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2115543F3F for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: (qmail 30602 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 21:45:09 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 7 Jul 2003 21:45:09 -0000 Received: from 82-68-31-177.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (82.68.31.177) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 21:45:09 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 82.68.31.177 From: Stacey Roberts To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk In-Reply-To: <86ojgvkiu4lfo7tftccepk9c18d0ju6jej@4ax.com> References: <000101c344be$3c994ae0$ac64033e@m00is.net> <1057608657.349.205.camel@localhost> <86ojgvkiu4lfo7tftccepk9c18d0ju6jej@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1057614312.349.220.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0 Date: 07 Jul 2003 21:45:13 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsduk cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Changed ISP now can't get to websites / traceroute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:45:12 -0000 Hello, On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 21:20, John Murphy wrote: > Stacey Roberts wrote: > > >Well., that's the story they're feeding me now. Something to do with the > >fact that its a new range?????? > > Hmm. Looking at the headers of your post you seem to have an address > in the previously bogus 82/8 range. These were only made available to > RIPE circa November 2002 and some operators have been slow to update > their ACLs. My ISP has acquired a whole range of these and forced one > on me, so I know what problems they can cause. > > >Really pisses me off this.., I'm quite fond of the FreeBSDforums site, > >one of the best *bsd-related forum site I've come across.., too. > > I can't get to http://www.freebsdforums.org/ either! > Sorry but.., AT LAST!!!!!! I'm not going crazy.., and it might be that there's some sanity to what Zen is telling me? > The temporary fix for me is to use the ISP's web-cache :( > No such option for me :-( > Here's a traceroute from here (in case it helps): > > traceroute to vail.edry.com (207.174.189.161), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets > 1 10.48.128.1 (10.48.128.1) 11.499 ms 14.670 ms 9.454 ms > 2 gsr01-tf.blueyonder.co.uk (62.31.176.161) 28.402 ms 9.319 ms 9.155 ms > 3 172.18.4.41 (172.18.4.41) 8.951 ms 18.224 ms 12.685 ms > 4 kno-rab-wol-pos.telewest.net (194.117.136.49) 23.042 ms 24.131 ms 40.047 ms > 5 tele2-kno-rab-pos.telewest.net (194.117.136.70) 18.752 ms 37.390 ms 28.197 ms > 6 zcr1-so-5-0-0.Londonlnt.cw.net (166.63.222.37) 50.513 ms 19.658 ms 19.770 ms > 7 dcr2-loopback.Chicago.cw.net (208.172.2.100) 119.590 ms 111.810 ms 116.965 ms > 8 agr4-so-6-0-0.Chicago.cw.net (208.175.10.158) 128.898 ms 138.911 ms 113.668 ms > 9 acr2.Denver.cw.net (208.172.162.62) 152.239 ms 162.933 ms 145.562 ms > 10 internap.Denver.cw.net (208.172.161.178) 155.267 ms 155.384 ms 160.362 ms > 11 border10.ge3-0-bbnet2.den.pnap.net (216.52.40.79) 155.735 ms 160.266 ms 158.363 ms > 12 coop-2.border10.den.pnap.net (216.52.42.118) 133.003 ms 134.785 ms 134.697 ms > 13 199.45.130.33 (199.45.130.33) 138.747 ms 147.327 ms 135.144 ms > 14 * border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net (207.174.144.178) 139.951 ms !X * > 15 border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net (207.174.144.178) 136.281 ms !X * * > 16 border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net (207.174.144.178) 159.470 ms !X * 137.951 ms !X Note here that you don't appear to actually *get* to freebsdforums' IP: >From nslookup for freebsdforums.org : Non-authoritative answer: Name: freebsdforums.org Address: 207.174.189.161 I'm trying to force Zen to increase their efforts in doing whatever they're able to do for me, but its a nightmare getting through to tech support to even begin that process.., For now, I'm trying to google around for what I might need to do in order that I can get traceroute to work for my *nix boxes here.., Thanks again for that.., Regards, Stacey -- Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com