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Date:      Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:58:37 +0100
From:      Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>
To:        Michal Varga <varga.michal@gmail.com>
Cc:        Frank Staals <frank@fstaals.net>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: mplayer from SVN
Message-ID:  <20091229195837.GC66391@e.0x20.net>
In-Reply-To: <3f1fd1ea0912291103q41c5731av7463994ff9d071dc@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:03:21PM +0100, Michal Varga wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Frank Staals <frank@fstaals.net> wrote:
> > On 12/29/09 14:31, Lars Engels wrote:
> >>
> >> Quoting Frank Staals <frank@fstaals.net>:
> >>
> >>> I know it is not as nice as simply having a port. But if you realy ne=
ed
> >>> the svn-releases for some feature XYZ it may be a (temporary) solutio=
n.
> >>
> >>
> >> Are there any killer features missing in our old version from ports?
> >
> > I don't really know. The reason that I used svn snapshots in the past w=
as
> > that my machine in combination with the mplayer port was unable to deco=
de
> > relatively high res h264 video while with the svn version there were so=
me
> > improvements which did make it possible. But that is a long time ago.
> >
> Related to that, VDPAU ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU ) is
> definitely "the killer feature", though I'm not sure how well (and if)
> it works on FreeBSD. For what I know, it works miracles on Linux
> (well, at least Linux people say that). Quick google turned out this,
> so I guess it's a start:
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D4756
>=20
> For anything else "killer-grade", I'm not really sure, but since the
> dawn of time, mplayer code base has always been a bit flaky (well, "a
> bit" itself is a bit too generous here). I guess all of us keep at
> least one other "backup" movie player (Gnome's Totem, XINE before
> that, etc.) for files that make mplayer die horribly in a ball of fire
> (recent youtube formats, I'm looking at you!) and vice versa - so one
> can reasonably assume that sticking to a 3-year old code base is not
> the very best we could do here and in the long term, unmanageable. It
> will only get worse.. 4 years? 5 years? Eventually other apps that use
> mplayer as their backend will start to fail, dtto various mencoder
> frontends (I'd say 'video editing software', if we only had any), and
> we will get stuck with gstreamer-powered crap (ok, not exactly bad,
> but even now in 2009, it's light years far from anything that 3-year
> old mplayer can do, and, you know, even a bad timed sneeze or an
> unfavorable lunar phase can make Totem crash).

Thanks a lot for the information on the new features.
I hope we can find a solution to use the svn version.

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