From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 20 00:43:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18565 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18547; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA07234; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:42:58 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19981020174250.34448@welearn.com.au> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:42:50 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading notes References: <19981019180600.39400@welearn.com.au> <362B79C3.EAA3607E@gorean.org> <362BBD20.4B26@echidna.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <362BBD20.4B26@echidna.com>; from Graeme Tait on Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 03:28:48PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 03:28:48PM -0700, Graeme Tait wrote: > Studded wrote: > > > > Sue Blake wrote: > > > > > My suggestions for newbies are: > > > > > > - Don't try to be first kid on the block with a new version. > > > Let the expert and the gullible fall into any holes first. > > > > I would extend this to say, "Never install a FreeBSD -RELEASE." I don't > > remember the last time a -Release didn't create a bunch of errors due to > > last minute cramming in of things. Watch the -Stable mailing list (for > > 2.2.x) and wait for things to calm down a bit after the -Release and > > then install the latest -Stable. > > > Well, this business of FreeBSD versions certainly is confusing for this newbie. My > understanding is that what gets issued with Greg Lehey's book is -RELEASE (mine > being 2.2.6R). That's part of the confusion I suggested was avoidable by using -questions if doing non-standard things. And it's another damn good reason for having discussions with the experts held in the place where experts hang out to help, freebsd-questions. There they present opinions which are open to review by their peers. Any difference of opinion is clarified quickly in that exposed forum, at any level. In -newbies we have no frame of reference and every talker is a god. I was recommending, only from what I've been told as a newbie, that in general -RELEASE is what newbies should be looking at unless there's a strong reason to do otherwise. It was only a guess. Now we have a learned view that newbies should never deal with a -RELEASE but should consider that their last option, after -STABLE and -CURRENT. (Personally I can't understand what goes on in freebsd-stable let alone freebsd-current but I'm just thick). There are probably good reasons on all sides, but who cares. We need square one, not squares 1 to 53. OK, assembled learned helpers, sort it out for yourselves where you can see each other, and put your final recommendation for what branch newbies should be on into the handbook, if it's that important. We got plenty to confuse ourselves with already without weighing up the big fish in our pond. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message