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Date:      Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:04:39 +0100 (BST)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= <ltning@anduin.net>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Serious issue with serial console in 5.4
Message-ID:  <20050721120340.S97888@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <86DDD9F6-A086-48E2-A5C5-1F5EA1C49354@anduin.net>
References:  <20050721050048.GU22430@xor.obsecurity.org> <00DD4399-4317-4579-82C4-5B64AC3F800B@anduin.net> <20050721110222.U97888@fledge.watson.org> <86DDD9F6-A086-48E2-A5C5-1F5EA1C49354@anduin.net>

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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Eirik =D8verby wrote:

>> I've only seen the issue when logging out of a serial console session,=
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>> and had previously hypothesized that it had to do with the simultaneous=
=20
>> timing of a console message from syslog and the opening/closing of the=
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>> console's tty due to logging out and getty restarting, resulting in a=20
>> reference count improperly hitting zero.
>
> I did indeed make some changes to my syslog configuration after getting=
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> the serials online. Your theory might not be entirely off. Let me know=20
> if I should post my syslog.conf file or anything else here or=20
> elsewhere...

Since you appear to be able to reliably reproduce the problem (whereas I=20
was able to reproduce it only after several hours of quite active serial=20
console work), it would be quite interesting to answer the following=20
question:

   If you cause syslogd not to send any output to /dev/console, does the
   problem go away?

Thanks,

Robert N M Watson
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