From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 2 22:47:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01B916A4CF for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:47:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9208A43D4C for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:47:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 7637 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2004 22:47:46 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 2 Aug 2004 22:47:45 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.208 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i72MlZp1020817; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 18:47:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, dlt@mebtel.net Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 18:38:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <200408011507.i71F7MVc000907@lorne.arm.org> <200408011825.i71IPZgG018406@grimreaper.grondar.org> <20040801210937.GA1682@mebtel.net> In-Reply-To: <20040801210937.GA1682@mebtel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408021838.44384.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: current@FreeBSD.org cc: Mark Murray Subject: Re: /dev/null doesn't get created X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 22:47:47 -0000 On Sunday 01 August 2004 05:09 pm, Derek Tattersall wrote: > * Mark Murray (mark@grondar.org) [040801 17:03]: > > From: Mark Murray > > Message-Id: <200408011825.i71IPZgG018406@grimreaper.grondar.org> > > To: dlt@mebtel.net > > Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: /dev/null doesn't get created > > Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 19:25:34 +0100 > > > > Derek Tattersall writes: > > > CURRENT as of this morning dint'create /dev/null. My previous > > > CURRENT, from July 25 created it fine so all was well.Can anybody > > > offer me a clue as to what this is all about? I tried to figure out > > > what causes /dev/null to get created, but was unsuccessful. > > > > BOOBOO of mine. Please always check src/UPDATING for clues :-) > > > > M > > -- > > Mark Murray > > iumop ap!sdn w,I idlaH > > Well I appear to have cvsup'ed just before you added the text to > UPDATING. Oh well. That brings up an interesting question: Under > what circumstances would it be advantageous to not compile the drivers > into the kernel, but leave them as modules and load from > /boot/loader.conf? I haven't had any luck imagining why you would > want to leave them as modules. It's a preference thing. I pretty much never use modules myself (things compiled into the kernel are more optimized, mutex and atomic ops are inlined rather than function calls for example) unless doing development on a device driver in which case I leave the device driver as a single module. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org