Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:31:45 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert <gerard-seibert@suscom.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing Message-ID: <20050320171721.B1B9.GERARD-SEIBERT@suscom.net> In-Reply-To: <20050320205726.6934316A4F2@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050320205726.6934316A4F2@hub.freebsd.org>
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:08:49 -0800 "Michael C. Shultz" <ringworm01@gmail.com> wrote: ||> ||>On Sunday 20 March 2005 11:53 am, Bob Ababurko wrote: ||>> Gerard Seibert wrote: ||>> > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:23 -0600 Chris <racerx@makeworld.com> ||>wrote: ||>> >||>Robert Slade wrote: ||>> >||>> Hi all, ||>> >||>> ||>> >||>> Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this ||>> >||>> e-mail address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails ||>> >||>> where from Comcast users !! ||>> >||>> ||>> >||>> Rob ||>> >||> ||>> >||>Sounds like someone from Comcast is on this list AND using a ||>> >||> Windows box AND is infected. ||>> >||> ||>> >||>Shame on you ||>> >||> ||>> >||>-- ||>> >||>Best regards, ||>> >||>Chris ||>> >||> ||>> >||>If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong. ||>> > ||>> >********** Reply Separator ********** ||>> >Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:35:28 PM ||>> > ||>> >1) Did you actually confirm that the email originated from Comcast ||>> >2) Did you report the email to Comcast as well as spoof@ebay.com ||>> >3) Why does it have to be a Windows box? Anyone can access this ||>> > forum and harvest email addresses. ||>> > ||>> >-- ||>> >Gerard Seibert ||>> >gerard-seibert@suscom.net ||>> > ||>> >They say that a dog is man's best friend. I do not believe that. How ||>> >many of your friends have you had neutered? ||>> ||>> It is most likely it is a windows box that has been copromised due to ||>> one of the slew of M$ vulnerabilities. Some crafty programmer has ||>> turned this box into a zombie and installed a mailing package or a ||>> proxy server and is sending mail from it in concert with thousands of ||>> others just like it...al behind one keyboard. ||>> ||>> -Bob ||> ||> ||>Just to be fair towards the OS used by common folk, a few months ago I ||>set up a gateway machine with FreeBSD 4.11 and made the mistake of ||>running it on my DSL line without first setting up a firewall, shutting ||>off sendmail and unused ports. (due to lazyness impatience on my part) ||> ||>It took only a few hours for someone to find the open relay and use it! ||>I didn't even know until Verizon sent me an email saying I was a bad ||>boy and they were shutting off my email access for 24 hours, which they ||>did! Bottom line is it can happen to anyone. ||> ||>-Mike ********** Reply Separator ********** Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:17:20 PM Thanks Mike, that is exactly my point. Far to many individuals blame Microsoft for every conceivable thing that happens without first fully investigating the actual event. There is a very good chance that Microsoft software may be at the heart of this matter; there is also a change that O.J. Simpson is innocent, but we do not really have to go there. For all we know, these addresses could be harvested by an individual using a MAC. The point is that as soon as someone starts using an OS other than Microsoft, they are lulled into a totally false sense of security, which anyone with any real knowledge knows is simply BS. If someone like yourself can make a mistake like you described, think how easy it is for a novice to accomplish the same feat. Worse yet, they will not even be aware that they have compromised either their own or some others security because of their incompetence. -- Gerard Seibert gerard-seibert@suscom.net Support your local medical examiner; die strangely!
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