Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:47:14 -0600 From: Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.org> To: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] GNU make 3.82 Message-ID: <3D7FEE79-13FC-482B-9116-ADF59A161525@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4D7C2C62.3080706@FreeBSD.org> References: <AANLkTi=n5n8Q%2BRkEH2EBtu0oVdTCC_ikaGdMO10Aoyuj@mail.gmail.com> <9352461C-9DEA-4778-8FAF-B60E22A4A7AB@FreeBSD.org> <4D7C2C62.3080706@FreeBSD.org>
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On Mar 12, 2011, at 20:30 , Doug Barton wrote: > The real problem here is that there is a very tiny subset of FreeBSD = developers who insist on taking on a disproportionate amount of "behind = the scenes" responsibilities, and are incredibly resistant to allowing = anyone else into the inner circle. The "inner circle" in this case would be autotools@ - whilst not a true = mailing list, anyone can ask to be added to the alias, just in the same = way as we have x11@ and so on. You'll notice also the port in question = has autotools@ as its maintainer, not an individual committer. The very nature of infrastructural ports, ie: those in which a change = can have wide-ranging effects across the tree are such that they take = "disproportionate" amounts of time and effort to improve. Even with = vastly improved package building clusters, it can easily take 4 or more = full runs to iron out all the issues. That's just the way it is. Handling such ports also _very_ quickly engenders, rightly or wrongly, a = specific way of doing things, otherwise they just don't ever get done. = If a few ruffled feathers is the collateral damage for keeping things = (vaguely) sane and up to date, then, quite frankly, so be it. It really = is as simple as that. -aDe
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