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Other vendors: say, my old (~ 5 years maybe) Samsung > Galaxy note 3 I got through AT&T - there was tool to make local own > backup (can not vouch for full restore like iTunes allows for > iDevices), but it's been too long since. > > My general impression is things got worse, i.e. google cloud, > or maybe some vendors will offer their cloud instead of google. > On the other hand the company invested so much of money > (I'm staying from guessing about source of it) into data mining > does want data trickle to them, even if you get your data > back ultimately. I mean as investment, making android system, > and keeping developing it, and supporting huge variety of > hardware. Cost is enormous, there should be even bigger return > on investment. So as return my suspicious mind would call > the data android system allows its creator to receive. > . . . > > Valeri > >> Since Android isn't real-time audio capable I'm using iPads. >> Each time a Windows release does reach end of life, there's the need >> to set up a new virtual machine with a new Windows guest, to get the >> required iTunes releases running. It's quite annoying, but at least >> an iOS device user isn't forced to use iCloud for a backup. >> _______________________________________________ Recommended reading: __The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power__, Zuboff, Shoshana ,PublicAffairs, New York, 2019. ISBN-13: 978-1610395694 P.S. For IOS users check your devices' Analytics Settings and view its history. Then research how to purge it. 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