From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 14:36:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9F716A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5FA43FD7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:36:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) hAUMaSvq006853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:36:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUMaQER054070 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:36:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUMaP2u083177; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:36:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hAUMaMpC083176; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:36:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:36:22 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Scott Mitchell Message-ID: <20031130223621.GI81181@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20031122203032.B4A7C43FB1@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1069535527.722.15.camel@klamath> <20031122235612.GC4757@angeldust.chaos> <3FC0FDFE.1080108@isi.edu> <20031123213816.GB74141@llama.fishballoon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031123213816.GB74141@llama.fishballoon.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Thomas Repantis cc: Lars Eggert cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:36:50 -0000 On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 09:38:16PM +0000, Scott Mitchell wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 10:35:42AM -0800, Lars Eggert wrote: > > Thomas Repantis wrote: > > >Can't this archiving take place in a more intelligent manner? For example > > >using "user host.org", instead of "user at host.org", "user[at]host.org" > > >or (Goddess forbid!) user@host.org. > > > > These schemes don't help. Nothing prevents an address-gathering bot to > > harvest addresses from the mailing list directly. > > Or more likely, from the various newsgroups that these lists are copied to. > The fact is, if you're going to post to any kind of public list, either use > an address you don't care about or accept that it's going to attract spam > and take steps to deal with that. It sucks, but what else can you do? Thinking about this is woth nothing anyway. I know for shure that spammers are already sniffing SMTP transfers to gather addresses. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de