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Date:      Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:29:27 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Hmmmm.  Are all the sup servers now online?
Message-ID:  <4272.819052167@time.cdrom.com>

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So far we have:

	sup.freebsd.org		-> freefall (soon to be somewhat more limited
				   in the number of connections supported)

	sup2.freebsd.org	-> insecurity.shockwave.com (between
				   10 and 20 connections allowed, I think)

	sup3.freebsd.org	-> lucus.fsl.orst.edu (between
				   10 and 20 connections allowed, I think)

I also believe that nic.funet.fi provides sup access, but we haven't
had anyone volunteer to be a DNS secondary for Finland yet so it's not
yet registered under sup.fi.freebsd.org, as it eventually should be.

I've also been thinking about this a little and wondering if we
shouldn't *also* map servers into freebsd.org regardless of location?
That we could rank them also by degrees of connectivity, e.g.:

	sup.freebsd.org		(as shown)
	sup2.freebsd.org	(as shown)
	sup3.freebsd.org	(as shown)
	sup4.freebsd.org	(TBA)
	sup5.freebsd.org	(TBA)
	sup6.freebsd.org	(TBA)
	sup7.freebsd.org	-> sup.fi.freebsd.org	(these
	sup8.freebsd.org	-> sup.de.freebsd.org	don't
	sup9.freebsd.org	-> sup.uk.freebsd.org	exist
	sup10.freebsd.org	-> sup2.uk.freebsd.org	yet)

And so on..  The same would hold true for `ftp' and `www', of course.

My major objective here is to make it as dead-simple for the end user
as possible.  If they can't get a connection to the first server site
they try, they can just bump the number up and try again.  A
no-brainer.  Back when the Internet used to work, restricting things
by region made sense.  Now you're just as likely to be able to get
from New York to Finland as you are from New York to San Francisco! :-(

You'd also be amazed at the number of people who've sent me mail
asking for the MIRROR.SITES file - I say "it's on ftp.freebsd.org" and
they say BUT WE CAN'T GET ON TO FTP.FREEBSD.ORG, DARN IT!  They I say
"it's on the boot floppy" and they say (repeat).  I guess there's no
excuse for not looking on http://www.freebsd.org, but some folks are
impatient.

In any case, whether we do this or not, I'm still waiting to
accumulate the 6 "official sup sites" I promised David before
announcing the opening of the CVS tree to general access.  Any
volunteers for sup4, sup5 and sup6?  Please?

Thanks!

					Jordan



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