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Date:      Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:16:58 +0200
From:      Jalle <defacto@home.se>
To:        Cotton <cottonlt@mac.com>, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD/XFree questions
Message-ID:  <5.2.1.1.0.20030711110523.02f0fdd0@archimedes.rsn.bth.se>
In-Reply-To: <1D0EFCEF-B352-11D7-9854-000393D42F48@mac.com>

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At 20:45 2003-07-10 -0700, Cotton wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>First off, my *nix experience=85 I=92ve run a few different distros on the=
 mac=20
>and PC just checking stuff out, but never full-time =AD definitely still a=
=20
>newbie. I have an old P166 here that I want to set up as a headless file=20
>server (mp3s, divx, documents)/web server/sendmail et al=85 it won=92t be=
 hit=20
>too hard, anyway.

You're at the right place, FreeBSD is your friend in this matter! =3Do)

>Will an old P166/64mb 66mhz SDRAM run FreeBSD 5.1 with X/KDE/Gnome ok? Or=
=20
>should I forget about the GUI and just control it through ssh?

If I were you, I'd think twice about X. It's hard to tell exactly how it=20
will run. But you can always try it just for fun, you'll learn a lot! I=20
know I did! =3Do)
As for Gnome/KDE... Nonono!!! I'm sorry, but these monsters are slow enough=
=20
on my PIII 800 with loads of memory! Try a window manager instead (ie, not=
=20
a desktop environment, just the wm), some highly recommended are blackbox=20
and fluxbox.
Controlling it via SSH is easy if your X experiments should fail. And=20
effective!

>I was hoping XFree would be useable, so I could run some apps remotely=20
>using Apple=92s X11 on OS X. Which leads to question #2=85 how does one run=
 an=20
>X application remotely like that, and have just the GUI on the local box?=
=20
>The machines would be on the same subnet 192.168.1.x, with the FreeBSD box=
=20
>on an Ethernet interface and the Powermac (1.25 ghz duallie) on 802.11g.

If you are not interested in running a full desktop from your server (XDMCP=
=20
I would guess), I'd suggest you try X over SSH (ssh -X)
Google around and you will find some useful stuff on this. I can't tell you=
=20
how well/bad it interacts with OS X though.

>Thanks for any suggestions!

When I did what you are attempting to do now I really enjoyed it, and I=20
learned bigtime useful stuff!
Good luck!
/J

>Cotton
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