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Date:      Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:45:55 -0800
From:      "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>
To:        <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: The future of portmaster
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:36:24 -0500 Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> wrote

> On 02/16/17 16:22, Chris H wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com>
> > wrote >
> >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote:
> >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> >>>>> Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> writes:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote:
> >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can
> >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my
> >>>>>> attention
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What kind of special support?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and
> >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen
> >>>>> minutes to set up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package
> >>>> [...]
> >>>
> >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional
> >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required.  The current non-use
> >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug.    -- George
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package
> >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on
> >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot
> >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not
> >> found in the target machine.  Here by making the package unusable.
> >
> > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal
> > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8).
> > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has
> > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-)
> >
> 
> Hello. Having portmaster do that ( automatically/or by default ) is 
> better as in I wont have to do that just run the damn tool with a list 
> of packages.  Just like synth does.   Oh no I am now banned as I use 
> synth, whoa is me.
Heh. Actually I usually use *traditional* jails to make my repo's.
But when I don't, I *too* prefer synth. Nothing political. I just
like it better -- it's faster, and less fuss.

--Chris





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