From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri May 3 17:12: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2285D37B41C for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 17:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8F3581487; Sat, 4 May 2002 09:41:50 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 09:41:50 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: doconnor@gsoft.com.au, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org, wes@softweyr.com, dunham@dunham.org, jdunham@m3designinc.com, jdunham@texas.net Subject: Re: Ad-Hoc with Windows? Message-ID: <20020504094150.N12386@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1020331032.442.168.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <20020503.082221.37493394.imp@village.org> <20020504092022.J12386@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020503.175801.101616114.imp@village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020503.175801.101616114.imp@village.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 3 May 2002 at 17:58:01 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20020504092022.J12386@wantadilla.lemis.com> > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: >> On Friday, 3 May 2002 at 8:22:21 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >>>>> - The BSDs are doing it wrong. We should be using IBSS mode, not demo >>>>> ad-hoc. >>> >>> ad-hoc is insufficient. We should create a media option like OpenBSD >>> has called master-ibss which does the right thing for the different >>> types of hardware. >> >> Why master-ibss? What's the difference between that and IBSS? I >> haven't found this term in the standard. > > 'ibss-master' is the master ibss you need one of these. 'ibss' is for > all the other nodes on the network. This is approximately the -c > flag. OK, what does the IBSS master do that the others don't? My understanding was that it basically supplies a BSSID, and that the stations continue to talk directly to each other. That's certainly what the signal strength indications tell me, anyway: I have the IBSS machine (also gateway) quite some distance from the other two machines in the network, which are close to each other. The signal strength indications reflect this. >>>>> - On the Lucent cards, you don't get a signal strength indication. >>> >>> Lucent cards are the only ones I've seen that have good signal >>> indication. However, it is in wicontrol -C only, not in the normal >>> wicontrol output. >> >> Ah, interesting. On one machine (running CURRENT from 12 December >> 2001), it only shows the last machine contacted, but on a more recent >> CURRENT it shows at least two of them. Is this a difference in the >> cards or in CURRENT? > > It does it at the mac level, so only those mac addresses that you are > talking to will have entries. I routinely get 10 or so when I connect > via an access point. Hmm, this isn't what the IBSS machine is showing. I'll play around with it, maybe. >>> Finally, a lot of stuff is in flux right now :-) >> >> I can't see anything significant in the drivers. For me, it Just >> Works. > > The hostap stuff is in flux. Ah, OK. Anything you can say about it? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message