From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 18:51:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15E3CF04 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp10.hushmail.com (smtp10a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.239]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED4781D07 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp10.hushmail.com (smtp10a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.239]) by smtp10.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 48220C017B for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w5.hushmail.com [65.39.178.80]) by smtp10.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 27FF62035E; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:12:41 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:12:40 -0800 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: reviving old FreeBSD4 SCSI beast From: "Dave Ng" Message-Id: <20140121181241.27FF62035E@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:51:15 -0000 So I have an older machine with a floppy drive, 4x SCSI drives, and a SCSI CDROM. Some of the drives are bad, and I managed to hose the userland by trying to install newer (~9.0 era, I think) binaries, before the kernel. Or was it the other way around. Either way, I have a machine that totally does not boot, and I am trying to revive it and read the drives that are still good. I have a newer, working IDE drive I can stick in there, which should help me out of this jam. However I still need to boot something in order to do an install. If I had another floppy drive I could write some boot floppies, if that is even still supported. But I only have the one floppy. A USB stick would have been a great solution except the motherboard is too old to support booting from USB. Is it likely that my Adaptec SCSI board can boot from a CDROM if I hook that device back up? The other path I was thinking, is I could probably stick the IDE drive in another (working) machine and dd a bootable image there. What would I want to use, the memstick image, or disc1, or what? The last option I can think of is PXE. Apparently this network board supports that, since I get PXE error messages when I try to boot now. However I have never set up a PXE server and have no idea how difficult that is. Thanks! Sent using Hushmail From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 21 18:54:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1FFB171 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7AC1D3B for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Alfreds-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [50.204.88.5]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4D6C1A3C19 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:54:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52DEC272.3070907@mu.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:54:42 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reviving old FreeBSD4 SCSI beast References: <20140121181241.27FF62035E@smtp.hushmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20140121181241.27FF62035E@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:54:48 -0000 Use a more modern machine to install to the IDE using an external USB->IDE bridge, then relocate drive to old machine. On 1/21/14, 10:12 AM, Dave Ng wrote: > So I have an older machine with a floppy drive, 4x SCSI drives, and a > SCSI CDROM. Some of the drives are bad, and I managed to hose the > userland by trying to install newer (~9.0 era, I think) binaries, > before the kernel. Or was it the other way around. Either way, I have > a machine that totally does not boot, and I am trying to revive it and > read the drives that are still good. > > I have a newer, working IDE drive I can stick in there, which should > help me out of this jam. However I still need to boot something in > order to do an install. If I had another floppy drive I could write > some boot floppies, if that is even still supported. But I only have > the one floppy. A USB stick would have been a great solution except > the motherboard is too old to support booting from USB. > Is it likely that my Adaptec SCSI board can boot from a CDROM if I > hook that device back up? > The other path I was thinking, is I could probably stick the IDE drive > in another (working) machine and dd a bootable image there. What would > I want to use, the memstick image, or disc1, or what? > The last option I can think of is PXE. Apparently this network board > supports that, since I get PXE error messages when I try to boot now. > However I have never set up a PXE server and have no idea how > difficult that is. > Thanks! > Sent using Hushmail > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >