From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 00:04:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B5E106564A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 00:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abletony84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE84D8FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 00:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so2462607vbm.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:04:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v1WhHPeV21ExvsriCvFkHZfrYRE1+T3yEEbDynfT0fo=; b=BsE4DgZofPjP9GJ2DuApsekylOxXkoW9KhmedyS3kvGMwVgeQ8DVkYUthK13qcWVZh HmK/DmtDpIKYNxLc7nyVXG9gTeImS2e2wv7/Uvk4oxtdo0rRPgp/sDw7zWdm7fvQIcBf kfKMCOCGMV/za+IvLAvJttfO3GgFLIqtfT9TabRyqTyiUlvPnJx77+nTTHZSVG4Gtvfk NyrchmX2VTxOXewg9AoSpZJuhAWYjGKCVRDbOjJVnDzoHB7whR+VlOST5TnK06GJe1Dd BK9MR3IgIcsEdxnWiB7r3uetne//oqMXTSaIwDS5AO06XbK/fW7dwLiW2p0Eg1/1Fyuo 19FQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.172.172 with SMTP id bd12mr1065183vdc.69.1333843481051; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.108.66 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 17:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 02:04:41 +0200 Message-ID: From: Tony To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Music production on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 00:04:42 -0000 Hello! Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music primarily on FreeBSD? Thanks! 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none Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 17:33:52 -0700 From: Robert To: Jeff Tipton Message-ID: <20120407173352.375f3c58@dell64> In-Reply-To: <4F8063D5.6070907@mail.com> References: <4F7FDB1D.6020608@mail.com> <4F8063D5.6070907@mail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfburn and k3b on FreeBSD9.0-RELEASE can't find LITE-ON DVDRW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 00:34:15 -0000 On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:57:09 +0300 Jeff Tipton wrote: > On 04/07/2012 09:13, Jeff Tipton wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I can't get any GUI tool working with my LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S > > (IDE) on 9.0-RELEASE (packages and ports tree are in sync from the > > release date). > > > > atapicam is compiled in GENERIC kernel now, so no need for this > > module. > > > > I recompiled cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, and hal. > > > > cdrecord works after that (tried to blank some CDs and burn some > > ISOs). > > > > But xfburn crashes: > > (process:6957): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, > > optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 > > > > (process:6957): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, > > optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 > > ** Message: Using Thunar-VFS 1.2.0 > > ** Message: Using HAL > > xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for > > device xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate > > ioctl for device xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: > > Inappropriate ioctl for device > > > > ** ERROR **: Device address does not lead to a burner > > '/dev/cd0' (ret=0). aborting... > > > > [1] Abort xfburn (core dumped) > > > > Exactly the same result when run as root. > > > > k3b starts but shows a warning message in a popup window: > > No optical drive found. > > K3b did not find any optical device in your system. > > Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for > > finding devices. > > > > Of course, HAL is running. > > > > brasero starts ok and doesn't complain at all; it just doesn't show > > any devices. > > > > camcontrol devlist output: > > > > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > > (pass0,ada0) at scbus0 target 1 > > lun 0 (pass1,ada1) at scbus1 > > target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass2) > > > > This is what I tried to set to make it work: > > > > /etc/devfs.conf: > > # CDROM > > own cd0 root:operator > > perm cd0 0660 > > > > own pass2 root:operator > > perm pass2 0666 > > > > own xpt0 root:operator > > perm xpt0 0666 > > > > /etc/devfs.rules: > > [system=5] > > #CD/DVD > > add path 'cd*' mode 0666 group operator > > add path 'pass*' mode 0666 group operator > > add path 'xpt*' mode 0666 group operator > > > > /etc/rc.conf: > > devfs_system_ruleset="system" > > > > No CD-related entries in /etc/fstab. > > Added myself to the operator group. > > SUID flags: > > ll /usr/local/bin | grep cdr > > -rws--x--- 1 root operator 578088 Dec 3 02:30 cdrdao > > -rws--x--- 1 root operator 402768 Feb 22 15:33 cdrecord > > -rws--x--- 1 root operator 136428 Dec 3 10:08 cdrskin > > > > Permissions on /dev files: > > #ll /dev |grep cd > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 91 Apr 6 15:18 cd0 > > # ll /dev | grep pass > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 83 Apr 6 15:18 pass0 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 84 Apr 6 15:18 pass1 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 85 Apr 6 15:18 pass2 > > # ll /dev | grep xpt > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 68 Apr 6 15:18 xpt0 > > > > # sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma > > hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1 > > > > What could be wrong? > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Some news. I found out that xfburn depends on libburn, so I > recompiled libburn, too. Now xfburn seems to work (could blank a > disk, write an ISO image, write files to a disk). > > As for k3b (which I would prefer), nothing changed. Only I found that > when I insert a disk before launching k3b, it finds the drive as > read-only. Now the popup window says: > No CD/DVD/BD writer found. > K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you > will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use > other K3b features such as audio track extraction, audio transcoding > or ISO9660 image creation. > > In Settings > Devices dialog, "Writers" are shown as "none", and > /dev/cd0 is under "Read-only Drives". There are blank squares against > "Vendor" and "Firmware", and "Error" against "Write Capabilities:". > For what it is worth, I had a similar problem with FreeBSD 9 back in the Beta days. IIRC I had to rebuild cdparanoia and then K3B and all was working again. YMMV Good Luck Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 01:38:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319B0106567F for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 01:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D939E8FC1D for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 01:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so1886482yhg.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :x-kmail-markup:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:x-gm-message-state; bh=+vcBFG0VgTVddsZp6m/0bJZEafFqa5UgEEJdZpnzIYg=; b=ikKZjd1Ij+dVia7V544E4s7cd4lQa6+z/p/1yZMtvcBs9V8KOxhFLMM6jCl3RniJ+5 FkqyFtifbHoFcXtEx+UFBTHHzndK1UmH2a468f6vn5aCExwwUBhV3k3V0o89ifeaxU6c BM1hridQVB9PaFRjb60kHmVNbzfmuK99oa/UgiqkTdwREl/2L8bNyNLINUPS1l49Ndxf uMHJHDI+XGjrR9ABhM+2X+2OyAuV7M/lgvWe4/xMl1ONdUBxx1NAcfHl1ljeG9I+nC5U HxLBxJMkRHtPtrCypIpUDRQa1hva9RChEeyYnjHR6XedJLYbwbh2u1d3vS+UI+52DGsj cQTw== Received: by 10.101.11.6 with SMTP id o6mr676999ani.47.1333849134013; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.41.11.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e45sm47155765yhk.2.2012.04.07.18.38.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:39:02 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkt0iXDUf31wXqt2byRdOPr1N46drO+lz3aZTxZcAJl+8JI5VAt3KmKThQeATBr/rjy63xo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Music production on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:38:55 -0000 On Saturday 07 April 2012 21:04:41 Tony wrote: > Hello! > > Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music > primarily on FreeBSD? > > Thanks! > > Tony Man, that has been my dream for a good while! Ardour is a fine multitrack but no MIDI, at least on FreeBSD. And FBSD itself has lots of issues with MIDI. Besides that, there is the driver problem with most professional sound boards. I am going to attempt something a quite bit out of my league which is try to port the alsa drivers for my echo Gina3G board to FBSD. If I can manage to do that, then I believe the rest will fall on my lap by gravity. I hope I don't blow up my desktop. I'm eager to read the replies to the OP. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 03:28:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B44106566C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 03:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E578FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 03:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 431955C22 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:42:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F8105F3.6060607@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:28:51 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Music production on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 03:28:52 -0000 On 04/08/12 11:39, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Saturday 07 April 2012 21:04:41 Tony wrote: >> Hello! >> >> Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music >> primarily on FreeBSD? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Tony > > Man, that has been my dream for a good while! > > Ardour is a fine multitrack but no MIDI, at least on FreeBSD. And FBSD itself > has lots of issues with MIDI. > > Besides that, there is the driver problem with most professional sound boards. > > I am going to attempt something a quite bit out of my league which is try to > port the alsa drivers for my echo Gina3G board to FBSD. If I can manage to do > that, then I believe the rest will fall on my lap by gravity. > > I hope I don't blow up my desktop. > > I'm eager to read the replies to the OP. > I have. Or more accurately my wife and co have, with me behind the wheel. My wife is a musician and music teacher, and we only use FreeBSD, so its a given here (and a massive drive for me to find a way to support it). We used simple tools: audacity, rosegarden, and hydrogen. We used a usb yamaha sound board, and a ribbon mic for the vocals. The biggest problem here is that rosegarden refuses to use jack for midi transport now, so even though there is a jack_umidi daemon in the ports it still wont pick it up. I'll have to look at another app like ardour and see if it is better there. Other than that, all good. Incidentally, the reason for the emphasis on rosegarden is that it does midi and audio multitrack; as well as notation editing. Apparently they're hell bent on only using alsa (God only knows why - must have a death wish or something...), with marginal support for jack. Hence they only support midi through alsa, not jack. Madness... The usb audio was a good call; the uaudio driver worked well in our case with jack, and given all work was done on a laptop it made sense. These days I think it makes more sense because of the portability, not to mention if the power happens to go off in the midst of a take you can keep going and finish the track ;) The only other option that would be ideal would be firewire audio - if that ever comes to FBSD. I think there may be some support through jack, but I haven't investigated that fully yet. 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Sabatier" To: Mario Lobo Message-ID: <20120408002146.2ed24f3a@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Music production on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 05:21:59 -0000 On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:39:02 -0300 Mario Lobo wrote: > On Saturday 07 April 2012 21:04:41 Tony wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music > > primarily on FreeBSD? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Tony > > > Man, that has been my dream for a good while! > > Ardour is a fine multitrack but no MIDI, at least on FreeBSD. And > FBSD itself has lots of issues with MIDI. > > Besides that, there is the driver problem with most professional > sound boards. > > I am going to attempt something a quite bit out of my league which is > try to port the alsa drivers for my echo Gina3G board to FBSD. If I > can manage to do that, then I believe the rest will fall on my lap by > gravity. > > I hope I don't blow up my desktop. > > I'm eager to read the replies to the OP. > And I'm sure I'm not the only one here who's eager to hear of any progress you may make with this most ambitious undertaking of yours. :-) Keep us posted, please? Conrad (who can't even get Rosegarden to run at all lately) :-( -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 05:31:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13182106564A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 05:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12368FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 05:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so6265413iah.13 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 22:31:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CxFhdDyHfk6pDRd45KyczZW+SLLd2/qmqcbf1tw03oE=; b=q/eoH5ec4rNNnsgvuIZzIid35RPgKQ/6mxwdgRkopeDRCREgqgxdPQmAzSH/foIpwW g1AdeJqtMX6+yoL3XcnJbW/PD5PXMYSoCTgSyXvqYZXpzghHZtpSucyEdQozcAFnF+aS aiSuYxl9p8mv5Fb5sO+u1SPkZp/huq5qOpi+WJCrNEHk94/XyYR9OHLYazviNG73vL9G SclkA0Os2pnjHcCROk1YcAeHt8nHHM2ZQzCLuoHQeJPw/GpgQz5+BUihj8IfOxUVVxNd fdfO41mwJ0RLhwjZYXpaioqYlojWIXbdyhShAd0Le7BJ6u4S7TzdbautxHloGD71RfNP NhIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.190.167 with SMTP id gr7mr2104510igc.8.1333863090264; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 22:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.65.72 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 00:31:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: ghostscript message when running ps2pdf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 05:31:31 -0000 Dear folks, Has anyone seen the following message: GPL Ghostscript 9.05: Error: Font Renderer Plugin ( FreeType ) return code = -1? This is the first time I see this error message when running ps2pdf on FreeBSD. Any pointers as to how to suppress these messages when invoking ps2pdf? Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 05:32:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CB91065674 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 05:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7257F8FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 05:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120408053240.JVOA18243.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net>; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 01:32:40 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.206]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id vHYf1i00K4T5sES02HYfQN; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:32:40 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4F8122F8.0018,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=CRPD+Qc8oD39miT01U+idCnfgtTI0UgUfEDugnPCZ2w= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:17 a=ZaDg5-L3AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=bA2S0DTPQ3IFGVK6C7EA:9 a=CM9hKCVZNI0TaEdd3CkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q385Wd1V053853; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 00:32:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 00:32:36 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20120408003236.5d85721d@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4F8105F3.6060607@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4F8105F3.6060607@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Music production on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 05:32:46 -0000 On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:28:51 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > On 04/08/12 11:39, Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Saturday 07 April 2012 21:04:41 Tony wrote: > >> Hello! > >> > >> Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music > >> primarily on FreeBSD? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Tony > > > > Man, that has been my dream for a good while! > > > > Ardour is a fine multitrack but no MIDI, at least on FreeBSD. And > > FBSD itself has lots of issues with MIDI. > > > > Besides that, there is the driver problem with most professional > > sound boards. > > > > I am going to attempt something a quite bit out of my league which > > is try to port the alsa drivers for my echo Gina3G board to FBSD. > > If I can manage to do that, then I believe the rest will fall on my > > lap by gravity. > > > > I hope I don't blow up my desktop. > > > > I'm eager to read the replies to the OP. > > > I have. Or more accurately my wife and co have, with me behind the > wheel. My wife is a musician and music teacher, and we only use > FreeBSD, so its a given here (and a massive drive for me to find a > way to support it). > > We used simple tools: audacity, rosegarden, and hydrogen. We used a > usb yamaha sound board, and a ribbon mic for the vocals. > > The biggest problem here is that rosegarden refuses to use jack for > midi transport now, so even though there is a jack_umidi daemon in > the ports it still wont pick it up. I'll have to look at another app > like ardour and see if it is better there. Other than that, all good. > > Incidentally, the reason for the emphasis on rosegarden is that it > does midi and audio multitrack; as well as notation editing. > Apparently they're hell bent on only using alsa (God only knows why - > must have a death wish or something...), with marginal support for > jack. Hence they only support midi through alsa, not jack. Madness... Yes, Rosegarden is a very nice app; it's just too bad we can't get true MIDI working with it under FreeBSD. As an amateur (frustrated?) composer, I *really* like the notation editing. For several months now, I've been unable to use Rosegarden at all (under 10-CURRENT). It crashes very early on startup. Haven't been able to track this one down yet. Gosh, how I miss my early days with FreeBSD and my Soundblaster AWE64 with the special MIDI apps for it in the ports collection (back in the good ol' days when OSS was our soundsystem). > The usb audio was a good call; the uaudio driver worked well in our > case with jack, and given all work was done on a laptop it made > sense. These days I think it makes more sense because of the > portability, not to mention if the power happens to go off in the > midst of a take you can keep going and finish the track ;) > > The only other option that would be ideal would be firewire audio - > if that ever comes to FBSD. I think there may be some support through > jack, but I haven't investigated that fully yet. > > And dont forget lilypond for notation... :) I wish driver coding and such were more my area of expertise; I'd gladly lend a hand to any efforts to improve our MIDI support. Unfortunately, every time I've tried looking at any of the actual code for the sound subsystem, it's left me in a veritable mystified stupor. :-) And lately, even some of the timidity++ stuff isn't working right. The Xaw interface refuses to build/install properly, ever since the removal of X11BASE from the ports infrastructure. This is really my single, my one-and-only gripe with FreeBSD: MIDI! Used to have a nice setup that was working beautifully, pretty much comparable to what you might find under Windows or Mac. But the whole thing got yanked out and replaced with the newpcm stuff back in -- what year was it? -- sometime in the late 90s. Most unfortunate. I and a number of others protested at the time, that we were having functionality ripped out with no viable replacement in sight, and sadly, that's still pretty much the case. MIDI support in FreeBSD has never been the same since. :-( Oh well, I'll shut up now. Hate to come off as a whiner or something. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 05:46:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93E91065672 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 05:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.t@mail.com) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com (mailout-us.mail.com [74.208.122.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5234B8FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 05:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Apr 2012 05:46:45 -0000 Received: from host117.apollo.lv (EHLO blazon-pc.runningwild.local) [81.198.136.117] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us009) with SMTP; 08 Apr 2012 01:46:45 -0400 X-Authenticated: #76218138 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18fEUogqOIf5eP2i0rURQYntXezUoCA4neHvbyTDn UYT/bN1+iklgII Message-ID: <4F812640.40406@mail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:46:40 +0300 From: Jeff Tipton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F7FDB1D.6020608@mail.com> <4F8063D5.6070907@mail.com> <20120407173352.375f3c58@dell64> In-Reply-To: <20120407173352.375f3c58@dell64> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: xfburn and k3b on FreeBSD9.0-RELEASE can't find LITE-ON DVDRW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 05:46:52 -0000 On 04/08/2012 03:33, Robert wrote: > On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:57:09 +0300 > Jeff Tipton wrote: > >> On 04/07/2012 09:13, Jeff Tipton wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I can't get any GUI tool working with my LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S >>> (IDE) on 9.0-RELEASE (packages and ports tree are in sync from the >>> release date). >>> >>> atapicam is compiled in GENERIC kernel now, so no need for this >>> module. >>> >>> I recompiled cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, and hal. >>> >>> cdrecord works after that (tried to blank some CDs and burn some >>> ISOs). >>> >>> But xfburn crashes: >>> (process:6957): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, >>> optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 >>> >>> (process:6957): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, >>> optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 >>> ** Message: Using Thunar-VFS 1.2.0 >>> ** Message: Using HAL >>> xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for >>> device xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: Inappropriate >>> ioctl for device xfburn: error sending CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl: >>> Inappropriate ioctl for device >>> >>> ** ERROR **: Device address does not lead to a burner >>> '/dev/cd0' (ret=0). aborting... >>> >>> [1] Abort xfburn (core dumped) >>> >>> Exactly the same result when run as root. >>> >>> k3b starts but shows a warning message in a popup window: >>> No optical drive found. >>> K3b did not find any optical device in your system. >>> Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for >>> finding devices. >>> >>> Of course, HAL is running. >>> >>> brasero starts ok and doesn't complain at all; it just doesn't show >>> any devices. >>> >>> camcontrol devlist output: >>> >>> at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 >>> (pass0,ada0) at scbus0 target 1 >>> lun 0 (pass1,ada1) at scbus1 >>> target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass2) >>> >>> This is what I tried to set to make it work: >>> >>> /etc/devfs.conf: >>> # CDROM >>> own cd0 root:operator >>> perm cd0 0660 >>> >>> own pass2 root:operator >>> perm pass2 0666 >>> >>> own xpt0 root:operator >>> perm xpt0 0666 >>> >>> /etc/devfs.rules: >>> [system=5] >>> #CD/DVD >>> add path 'cd*' mode 0666 group operator >>> add path 'pass*' mode 0666 group operator >>> add path 'xpt*' mode 0666 group operator >>> >>> /etc/rc.conf: >>> devfs_system_ruleset="system" >>> >>> No CD-related entries in /etc/fstab. >>> Added myself to the operator group. >>> SUID flags: >>> ll /usr/local/bin | grep cdr >>> -rws--x--- 1 root operator 578088 Dec 3 02:30 cdrdao >>> -rws--x--- 1 root operator 402768 Feb 22 15:33 cdrecord >>> -rws--x--- 1 root operator 136428 Dec 3 10:08 cdrskin >>> >>> Permissions on /dev files: >>> #ll /dev |grep cd >>> crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 91 Apr 6 15:18 cd0 >>> # ll /dev | grep pass >>> crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 83 Apr 6 15:18 pass0 >>> crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 84 Apr 6 15:18 pass1 >>> crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 85 Apr 6 15:18 pass2 >>> # ll /dev | grep xpt >>> crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 68 Apr 6 15:18 xpt0 >>> >>> # sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma >>> hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1 >>> >>> What could be wrong? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> Some news. I found out that xfburn depends on libburn, so I >> recompiled libburn, too. Now xfburn seems to work (could blank a >> disk, write an ISO image, write files to a disk). >> >> As for k3b (which I would prefer), nothing changed. Only I found that >> when I insert a disk before launching k3b, it finds the drive as >> read-only. Now the popup window says: >> No CD/DVD/BD writer found. >> K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you >> will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use >> other K3b features such as audio track extraction, audio transcoding >> or ISO9660 image creation. >> >> In Settings> Devices dialog, "Writers" are shown as "none", and >> /dev/cd0 is under "Read-only Drives". There are blank squares against >> "Vendor" and "Firmware", and "Error" against "Write Capabilities:". >> > For what it is worth, I had a similar problem with FreeBSD 9 back in > the Beta days. IIRC I had to rebuild cdparanoia and then K3B and all > was working again. > > YMMV > > Good Luck > > Robert Thank you, it works now! 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: Re: Music production on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:10:42 -0000 "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > And lately, even some of the timidity++ stuff isn't working > right. The Xaw interface refuses to build/install properly, > ever since the removal of X11BASE from the ports infrastructure. That "should" only require replacing X11BASE with LOCALBASE in the 3 port files where it appears: timidity++/Makefile.interface (3 places) timidity++-motif/Makefile timidity++-xaw/pkg-plist (2 places) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 08:19:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C0E106578B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD0D8FC17 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120408081923.XVZQ1165.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net>; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 04:19:23 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.206]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id vLKN1i0074T5sES02LKPiP; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 04:19:23 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4F814A0B.0043,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=a5rW3OQRbFEdgKwo7xIr8Mdf8rAK9H2b+63LvJ58Ve0= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:17 a=GKysJfYJAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=NwxCcvBHz9yqPMzTeXcA:9 a=sSvrbya712sadIruPNsA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q388JMS6053245; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 03:19:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 03:19:16 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20120408031916.62d7b010@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4f81a879.VxiEgEk4mW5r1GL7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4F8105F3.6060607@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120408003236.5d85721d@cox.net> <4f81a879.VxiEgEk4mW5r1GL7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: Re: Music production on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:19:33 -0000 On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:02:17 -0700 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > > > And lately, even some of the timidity++ stuff isn't working > > right. The Xaw interface refuses to build/install properly, > > ever since the removal of X11BASE from the ports infrastructure. > > That "should" only require replacing X11BASE with LOCALBASE > in the 3 port files where it appears: > > timidity++/Makefile.interface (3 places) > timidity++-motif/Makefile > timidity++-xaw/pkg-plist (2 places) Yes, I took a look at the port one day not too long ago, but ran into some unexpected difficulties with it, which I can't recall exactly at the moment. What I thought would be a simple search-and-replace thing turned out to have some surprises hidden away up in there. I'll have to take another shot at it, as my memory of what exactly the problem was is completely blank right now. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 08:41:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A35106564A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636F38FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38DF15C22 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:55:22 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F814F49.6070603@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:41:45 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201204072239.02765.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4F8105F3.6060607@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120408003236.5d85721d@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120408003236.5d85721d@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Music production on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:41:46 -0000 On 04/08/12 15:32, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:28:51 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: > >> On 04/08/12 11:39, Mario Lobo wrote: >>> On Saturday 07 April 2012 21:04:41 Tony wrote: >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music >>>> primarily on FreeBSD? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Tony >>> Man, that has been my dream for a good while! >>> >>> Ardour is a fine multitrack but no MIDI, at least on FreeBSD. And >>> FBSD itself has lots of issues with MIDI. >>> >>> Besides that, there is the driver problem with most professional >>> sound boards. >>> >>> I am going to attempt something a quite bit out of my league which >>> is try to port the alsa drivers for my echo Gina3G board to FBSD. >>> If I can manage to do that, then I believe the rest will fall on my >>> lap by gravity. >>> >>> I hope I don't blow up my desktop. >>> >>> I'm eager to read the replies to the OP. >>> >> I have. Or more accurately my wife and co have, with me behind the >> wheel. My wife is a musician and music teacher, and we only use >> FreeBSD, so its a given here (and a massive drive for me to find a >> way to support it). >> >> We used simple tools: audacity, rosegarden, and hydrogen. We used a >> usb yamaha sound board, and a ribbon mic for the vocals. >> >> The biggest problem here is that rosegarden refuses to use jack for >> midi transport now, so even though there is a jack_umidi daemon in >> the ports it still wont pick it up. I'll have to look at another app >> like ardour and see if it is better there. Other than that, all good. >> >> Incidentally, the reason for the emphasis on rosegarden is that it >> does midi and audio multitrack; as well as notation editing. >> Apparently they're hell bent on only using alsa (God only knows why - >> must have a death wish or something...), with marginal support for >> jack. Hence they only support midi through alsa, not jack. Madness... > Yes, Rosegarden is a very nice app; it's just too bad we can't get true > MIDI working with it under FreeBSD. As an amateur (frustrated?) > composer, I *really* like the notation editing. I don't know about not having true midi, midi seems fine its just the software is (for some inexplicable reason) not supporting OSS anymore and chasing the horrid monster that is alsa. Even jack supports the freebsd midi using the daemon, but the software doesn't suport jack midi. Like I said: madness... > > For several months now, I've been unable to use Rosegarden at all > (under 10-CURRENT). It crashes very early on startup. Haven't been > able to track this one down yet. > > Gosh, how I miss my early days with FreeBSD and my Soundblaster AWE64 > with the special MIDI apps for it in the ports collection (back in the > good ol' days when OSS was our soundsystem). > >> The usb audio was a good call; the uaudio driver worked well in our >> case with jack, and given all work was done on a laptop it made >> sense. These days I think it makes more sense because of the >> portability, not to mention if the power happens to go off in the >> midst of a take you can keep going and finish the track ;) >> >> The only other option that would be ideal would be firewire audio - >> if that ever comes to FBSD. I think there may be some support through >> jack, but I haven't investigated that fully yet. >> >> And dont forget lilypond for notation... :) > I wish driver coding and such were more my area of expertise; I'd > gladly lend a hand to any efforts to improve our MIDI support. > Unfortunately, every time I've tried looking at any of the actual code > for the sound subsystem, it's left me in a veritable mystified > stupor. :-) > > And lately, even some of the timidity++ stuff isn't working right. The > Xaw interface refuses to build/install properly, ever since the removal > of X11BASE from the ports infrastructure. > > This is really my single, my one-and-only gripe with FreeBSD: MIDI! > Used to have a nice setup that was working beautifully, pretty much > comparable to what you might find under Windows or Mac. But the whole > thing got yanked out and replaced with the newpcm stuff back in -- what > year was it? -- sometime in the late 90s. Most unfortunate. I and a > number of others protested at the time, that we were having > functionality ripped out with no viable replacement in sight, and > sadly, that's still pretty much the case. MIDI support in FreeBSD has > never been the same since. :-( The replacement is there now, but everything else has moved on. > > Oh well, I'll shut up now. Hate to come off as a whiner or > something. :-) > No, I'd call it constructive criticism. Once my wife gets on my back about it I imagine I'll be driving it all forward again, so maybe there will be hope :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 08:53:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F52106566B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from airosovicz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4838FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwc18 with SMTP id wc18so6236103obb.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:53:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fEAopIpvbPR42llDDPaz3WM838EF0OmV5+XjeEQw9cg=; b=P64w7BYVlq6GD2akt3yNUmxASwWjLqjr/Q95Xn5eLXQUQPf1PPJKK/KvST9F1pjxYK gvB5zV6vAdHzz+8oH2KOI1B4Zvr6TzDp5LQ/mcdxbmHeZYgwT92cI29P0GMPBBSo7CDj tq2kumsB/rIFultTvS8xsW1UzjSarVo8DhTWwL1ChHEvszL0iepxLUTKtE3OUdNLJXZg vwqdjxiQde80QjUmy3o0iGieTyml9uu2C7B3AsOHDmjdlwhtDJ/3LhRD9cxA7Uzg32YR tkRAU1JewL1/jN8SYM0hi00HmbIz9Xos5JUrOPr2E5Bwhc5FPvKphAS+Y0f1uS6206I1 +oPg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.74.8 with SMTP id p8mr4848880obv.41.1333875235909; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.37.225 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 01:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:53:55 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?QWlyb3NvzrJpY3ogZmIu?= To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:53:56 -0000 Greetings all, It's my 1st time on any of the FreeBSD lists & I'm fairly new to FreeBSD to please bear with me.. So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 & now the system can't mount in single user mode to go through the final step of installing the world.. # cvsup.. Done.. # make buildworld.. Done.. # make buildkernel.. Done.. # make installkernel.. Done.. # reboot in single user mode to install world.. Failed to mount to /dev/ad2s1a.. {Yes, that *is* my HD} I rebooted from the loader prompt with my old (GENERIC) kernel & came up with the following.. peggy# ls -l /dev/ad* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 79 Apr 8 08:47 /dev/ad2 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 82 Apr 8 08:47 /dev/ad2s1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 84 Apr 8 08:47 /dev/ad2s1a > > peggy# cat /etc/fstab > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# > /dev/ad2s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > peggy# disklabel /dev/ad2s1a > # /dev/ad2s1a: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 20044017 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > c: 20044017 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, > don't edit > > peggy# fsck > ** /dev/ad2s1a (NO WRITE) > ** Last Mounted on / > ** Root file system > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames > ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity > ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts > ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups > 415735 files, 3148200 used, 1702923 free (40563 frags, 207795 blocks, 0.8% > fragmentation) > > peggy# kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 7 0xc0400000 bb5504 kernel > 2 1 0xc2e1a000 26000 linux.ko > I know there's many 'mount' problem discussions out there but I can't seem to find out how to overcome this problem.. Many thanx in advance for any assistance.. Regards, E. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:00:52 -0000 On 8 April 2012 09:53, Airoso=CE=B2icz fb. wrote: > Greetings all, > > It's my 1st time on any of the FreeBSD lists & I'm fairly new to FreeBSD = to > please bear with me.. > > So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 & now the system can't mount in single > user mode to go through the final step of installing the world.. > > # cvsup.. Done.. > # make buildworld.. =C2=A0Done.. > # make buildkernel.. Done.. > # make installkernel.. Done.. > # reboot in single user mode to install world.. Failed to mount to > /dev/ad2s1a.. {Yes, that *is* my HD} > > I rebooted from the loader prompt with my old (GENERIC) kernel & came up > with the following.. > > peggy# ls -l /dev/ad* >> crw-r----- =C2=A01 root =C2=A0operator =C2=A0 =C2=A00, =C2=A079 Apr =C2= =A08 08:47 /dev/ad2 >> crw-r----- =C2=A01 root =C2=A0operator =C2=A0 =C2=A00, =C2=A082 Apr =C2= =A08 08:47 /dev/ad2s1 >> crw-r----- =C2=A01 root =C2=A0operator =C2=A0 =C2=A00, =C2=A084 Apr =C2= =A08 08:47 /dev/ad2s1a >> >> peggy# cat /etc/fstab >> # Device =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mountpoint =C2=A0 =C2=A0FStype =C2= =A0 =C2=A0Options =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dump =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pass# >> /dev/ad2s1a =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ufs = =C2=A0 =C2=A0rw =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 >> /dev/acd0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/cdrom =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0c= d9660 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ro,noauto =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 >> >> peggy# disklabel /dev/ad2s1a >> # /dev/ad2s1a: >> 8 partitions: >> # =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0size =C2=A0 offset =C2=A0 =C2=A0fstype =C2= =A0 [fsize bsize bps/cpg] >> =C2=A0 a: 20044017 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A04.2BSD =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 2048 16384 28552 >> =C2=A0 c: 20044017 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unused =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # "ra= w" part, >> don't edit >> >> peggy# fsck >> ** /dev/ad2s1a (NO WRITE) >> ** Last Mounted on / >> ** Root file system >> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames >> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity >> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts >> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >> 415735 files, 3148200 used, 1702923 free (40563 frags, 207795 blocks, 0.= 8% >> fragmentation) >> >> peggy# kldstat >> Id Refs Address =C2=A0 =C2=A0Size =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Name >> =C2=A01 =C2=A0 =C2=A07 0xc0400000 bb5504 =C2=A0 kernel >> =C2=A02 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 0xc2e1a000 26000 =C2=A0 =C2=A0linux.ko >> > > I know there's many 'mount' problem discussions out there but I can't see= m > to find out how to overcome this problem.. > > Many thanx in advance for any assistance.. > > Regards, > E. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" try specifying 'ufs:/dev/adas1a' at the kernel prompt or editing that into you fstab if you can. My devices changed and the 8-9 jump. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 09:54:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9429A1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148C68FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q389sPnM032634 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:54:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q389sPnM032634 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q389sPnM032634; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F816046.1080503@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:54:14 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?IkFpcm9zb86yaWN6IGZiLiI=?= References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9130B0860E7834EB22F0FD36" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:54:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9130B0860E7834EB22F0FD36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/04/2012 09:53, Airoso=CE=B2icz fb. wrote: > So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 & now the system can't mount in single= > user mode to go through the final step of installing the world.. >=20 > # cvsup.. Done.. > # make buildworld.. Done.. > # make buildkernel.. Done.. > # make installkernel.. Done.. > # reboot in single user mode to install world.. Failed to mount to > /dev/ad2s1a.. {Yes, that *is* my HD} >=20 As was mentioned else-thread, you are probably hitting problems due to the name change from ad(4) to ada(4) for PATA/SATA disk devices. One way to fix this is simply to type in the new boot device in the loader and then edit /etc/fstab from single user mode -- which is fine, but you'ld have to go through the same sort of rigmarole again to revert back to 8.1 should that be necesssary. The preferred method nowadays is to label the partitions. There are three options: glabel(8) -- generic labels for geom devices, which will appear in /dev/label/foo tunefs(8) -- specifically the -L option. For UFS, labels will appear as /dev/ufs/foo gpart(8) -- GPT partitioning has built-in label support. Devices appear as /dev/gpt/foo (Additionally partitions can be referred to by uuid for the tunefs and gpart labelling schemes, but that's not relevant here.) Quite why FreeBSD needs so many different labelling schemes escapes me. gpart(8) labelling is the default for new installs of 9.0. However, given you're upgrading from 8.1, then you will likely be using MBR + bsdlabel oldstyle partitioning, so probably tunefs(8) labelling would be the best choice to get you through the 8.1 -> 9.0 reboot. ie. Create the label: # tunefs -L ROOT /dev/as2s1a then edit /etc/fstab so the line for the root filesystem reads like so: /dev/ufs/ROOT / ufs rw 0 1 Repeat this for all the other UFS filesystems you have -- a good system is to label them according to their mountpoint (USR, VAR, HOME, LOCAL, and so forth.) This should work with both 8.1 and 9.0 kernels -- however, untested, so apply appropriate levels of caution. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:32:44 -0000 from Xavier : > I have: > casa# disktype /dev/da1 > --- /dev/da1 > Character device, size 3.771 GiB (4048551936 bytes) > FreeBSD boot loader (i386 boot2/BTX 1.02 at sector 2) > BSD disklabel (at sector 1), 8 partitions > Partition c: 2.145 GiB (2302711808 bytes, 4497484 sectors from 0) > Type 0 (Unused) > DOS/MBR partition map > Partition 1: 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 7438032 sectors from 63) > Type 0x83 (Linux) > Ext3 file system > UUID D1A7E6D6-3A34-4864-B6E8-C4DAA34AD776 (DCE, v4) > Last mounted at "/" > Volume size 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 929754 blocks of 4 KiB) > Partition 2: 227.5 MiB (238533120 bytes, 465885 sectors from 7438095) > Type 0x05 (Extended) > Partition 5: 227.5 MiB (238500864 bytes, 465822 sectors from 7438095+63) > Type 0x82 (Linux swap / Solaris) > Linux swap, version 2, subversion 1, 4 KiB pages, little-endian > Swap size 227.4 MiB (238489600 bytes, 58225 pages of 4 KiB) > I'm running from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE > I try: > casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ > mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument > How can I mount it ? I'm confused between the BSD disklabel and DOS/MBR partition map. What does (running from Linux) fdisk -lu /dev/sdb (or whatever the Linux name for that disk is) show? How do you mount that Linux ext3fs partition in Linux? That knowledge might help me figure how to mount that partition from FreeBSD. I'm still not sure how or if FreeBSD supports ext3fs as opposed to ext2fs. I don't see the rationale for setting up an extended partition when you only use two partitions. The second (Linux swap) partition could be primary, and you would be well under the quota of four primary partitions. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 10:45:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2437106564A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1858FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr20 with SMTP id r20so1941180ghr.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 03:45:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=u0GwcXrh1KcP7cBzQ9bSr3w2mF8gXcNMMwQud2++Jf8=; b=kNwkO+ZG+Ert/bWhcIC5wLeBs4R/nSeL8He+cU/fpn3yKQkIQjGInzuPItmtGpwV7X MnZubSXJqsPIPumswUhATnev4kR+motOHpDr9v2PgNr83Vak8GvLw2rskY2vswzxNEfO v6FwuZ/trJv6MgdaUzmWqvLMijDQh+9PLHlWf+s+S+85flJF2DHLtTd/JO4nAVo+Uawj ErNGAa6NHZpau3ntrNq+gTyH6bN5fPtuBvzeX82iYQvf2WdWZalN4wNaOnzT039hsgGG d/YfeLyOGe8GG7N6UyebkAia/xiL2fBvo0A3RDWX2vrS2isIiUME9RGa/NBhM2misvXp kHrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.185.197 with SMTP id u45mr2918502yhm.113.1333881915827; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 03:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.35.3 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 03:45:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE mount Ext3 file system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:45:17 -0000 On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 06:32:36AM -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: Hi Thomas, > from Xavier : > > > I have: > > > casa# disktype /dev/da1 > > > --- /dev/da1 > > Character device, size 3.771 GiB (4048551936 bytes) > > FreeBSD boot loader (i386 boot2/BTX 1.02 at sector 2) > > BSD disklabel (at sector 1), 8 partitions > > Partition c: 2.145 GiB (2302711808 bytes, 4497484 sectors from 0) > > Type 0 (Unused) > > DOS/MBR partition map > > Partition 1: 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 7438032 sectors from 63) > > Type 0x83 (Linux) > > Ext3 file system > > UUID D1A7E6D6-3A34-4864-B6E8-C4DAA34AD776 (DCE, v4) > > Last mounted at "/" > > Volume size 3.547 GiB (3808272384 bytes, 929754 blocks of 4 KiB) > > Partition 2: 227.5 MiB (238533120 bytes, 465885 sectors from 7438095) > > Type 0x05 (Extended) > > Partition 5: 227.5 MiB (238500864 bytes, 465822 sectors from 7438095+63) > > Type 0x82 (Linux swap / Solaris) > > Linux swap, version 2, subversion 1, 4 KiB pages, little-endian > > Swap size 227.4 MiB (238489600 bytes, 58225 pages of 4 KiB) > > > I'm running from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE > > > I try: > > > casa# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da1a /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 4GB\ 1100/ > > mount: /dev/da1a : Invalid argument > > > How can I mount it ? > > I'm confused between the BSD disklabel and DOS/MBR partition map. > > What does (running from Linux) > > fdisk -lu /dev/sdb (or whatever the Linux name for that disk is) show? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'll run that command line from a GNU/Linux ( not from FreeBSD ) ? > > How do you mount that Linux ext3fs partition in Linux? That knowledge might help me figure how to mount that partition from FreeBSD. I don't probe it. /dev/da1 is a USB pen drive with GNU/Linux OS. Well, I wait to confirm that command ... Thanks, see you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 12:06:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFD7106566B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FC58FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2012 08:06:06 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BRO13638; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:06:03 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2012 08:06:03 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20353.32554.960087.215889@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:06:02 -0400 To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ghostscript message when running ps2pdf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 12:06:13 -0000 Antonio Olivares writes: > Has anyone seen the following message: > > GPL Ghostscript 9.05: Error: Font Renderer Plugin ( FreeType ) return code = -1? > > This is the first time I see this error message when running > ps2pdf on FreeBSD. Any pointers as to how to suppress these > messages when invoking ps2pdf? I have not seen this message. However, I note Freetype(2) recently had a minor version bump. Have you updated that port, and could this be the cause of this problem? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 12:40:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAAF106566B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abletony84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613CD8FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcmm1 with SMTP id m1so1994070vcm.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 05:40:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z/4M7gaUSJcT3hAYvC9P56QxvNZk1O6pWuuWiPdN0HI=; b=mOwliuF05Med9IHhWsjL4xG9krRMvacLRVy5VE2sGzA4udq6ZOwsW/4TKjBgdRC682 TPsIDnniJFwImpdK3vmbQlMiEW+2bcxVWdAJLbg41K4k5f8dNIsdLQxyN/IopuUScN3T Jr4JwFKE4xJaslo2GQK2ClJpQOMoNWXFrqEUxLce2fRs8O0MvLs0NqSqftllYQIe4f/0 xcu3uKoqXAcLcrVOF5VFxOwT7r57AjjaNeyNSPWhqOxta5hu02P62h5qIXgd1LjOlBrq hdXCcobPlQvn7VzphrxBjTY/VsnQBwMfn83VHYzHdjoFhKUa/MEjxoThOATMwvMMxSBx gnxg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.152.205 with SMTP id h13mr2207333vcw.12.1333888812586; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 05:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.108.66 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 05:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:40:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: Tony To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 12:40:18 -0000 Hello! As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate identity. Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have a design that reflects this. A design that is so neutral and stripped of any unnecessary details that the user's attention is directed straight on to the content as opposed to how the content looks. A design that you can look at over and over without getting annoyed. The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more forced than well thought out. First you have the shiny Satanic 3D-lookalike logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) that might look cool the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like "what the hell *is* that thing anyway"? (ref: Tres Logos ) Then you have a surrounding layout trying to cater to that logo, but fails miserably as it was made by programmers as opposed to people with an actual education in design . There is no natural flow and the whole thing just comes off as corny - and this makes us all look bad. I also hear PostgreSQLis planning to sue FreeBSD for stealing its design. I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on Helvetica. No devil logo, no bells and whistles, just straight forward "FreeBSD" - the world's best operating system. So simple that hardly anything it will go out of fashion and need to be replaced, so simple that it'll remain as current now as it will be a hundred years from now. "Perfection is achieved, not when there's nothing left to add, but when there's nothing left to take away." Tony http://siegelgale.com/ http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 13:19:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF09106566B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C338FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q38DJ6Ii001044; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 07:19:09 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 20:18:22 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201204082018.22045.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tony Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:19:23 -0000 Hi, not again. Erich On Sunday 08 April 2012 19:40:12 Tony wrote: > Hello! > > As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate > identity. Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have a > design that reflects this. A design that is so neutral and stripped of any > unnecessary details that the user's attention is directed straight on to > the content as opposed to how the content looks. A design that you can look > at over and over without getting annoyed. > > The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more > forced than well thought out. First you have the shiny Satanic 3D-lookalike > logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) that might look cool > the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like "what the > hell *is* that thing anyway"? (ref: Tres > Logos > ) > > Then you have a surrounding layout trying to cater to that logo, but fails > miserably as it was made by programmers as opposed to people with an actual > education in design . There is no natural > flow and the whole thing just > comes off as corny - > and this makes us all look bad. I also hear > PostgreSQLis planning to sue FreeBSD for > stealing its design. > > I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on > Helvetica. > No devil logo, no bells and whistles, just straight forward "FreeBSD" - the > world's best operating system. So simple that hardly anything it will go > out of fashion and need to be replaced, so simple that it'll remain as > current now as it will be a hundred years from now. > > "Perfection is achieved, not when there's nothing left to add, but when > there's nothing left to take away." > > Tony > http://siegelgale.com/ > http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 13:22:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C525A1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abletony84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FF08FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so2646448vbm.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:22:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a/PFkjfdtp1zenMFCW9oTgMjdtKx83t+kuKRX+buyaM=; b=DQHymmW1DqtrtgLqAn+zEX1M9pfE9uxROzxEH2bR/hY8aUXCY1GbpvanSNukCAesoJ O+hqetsq1mmPCJwCM4Tp6DJDTKLXbF15gtCLy+G966MNoj7rtsn9poxStWAUq5ALCb6+ cU2NtQU5DnhRlLlYkHCPKGWebLFDn2EB0C20Hq7cTyxYlyG/QJlYOyXC5wtxn0v13nGe Zmh80NoWWbZJLFp7y79+Z1tmLVYdW/dXqobLJlFS2vEdcawnlS+G5lSc1x25y2UDiUSF NKz8zU+pvmOBcKqMMgvVQg0faxgzrRvnUTqkYeczBBUTZDPwKj2CsaPv05Oh+mUmceDo pvPw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.23.70 with SMTP id k6mr1685817vdf.86.1333891367706; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.108.66 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 06:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:22:47 +0200 Message-ID: From: Tony To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD losing market share? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:22:49 -0000 Hello! I'm a bit alarmed by the fact that none of the major low-cost Xen VPS-based hosting providers in the modern web development scene (Rackspace, Linode, SliceHost, Webbynode etc.) offer FreeBSD hosting. Sure there are some that offer dedicated servers like M5 Hosting, RootBSD, Pair etc. but those are hard to find and ridiculously expensive. Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen? Why is FreeBSD hosting only reserved for the upper class, while the rest of us have to "settle for Linux"? Imagine how FreeBSD's market share and popularity would skyrocket once regular people gets access to it. Low-cost hosting definitely is the way of the future. Just look at how well low-cost airlinesare doing. Thanks! Tony http://siegelgale.com/ http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 13:51:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A541106564A; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from airosovicz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F978FC08; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwc18 with SMTP id wc18so6415120obb.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:51:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Tv/dVUjHuwiP14PXK5MvRzVhthLXyvXIoZ5HQ9jsdpU=; b=dx2+0/Mrv1Cer9sZYrbsHZzAsxwkoTfOPIOEeMHtXTRbs/hw6sGoJX5fKCj4K5rOjp 20Q8lzF30sAtXt8m6bcCaBFbXLr6UbC797+Nl+GQG8HIjJ0j0C+Fe8GFGv6JRrEvDbFY F5CwjFqKcdmPEMNoPsxgitHp5AvdlZDr1fjH7rTIqfzTjJGaBn8GLxBxqr892Dj9MzCJ RUDWULWm1qbPgYo9R1FI6c7sCp7YuwJvjhp9K7xVOpSrmAtNylluLAYRuW7Q9AtQx7VK TL3uhsBQoc92cOSR6J6F7QULux2k/h+XCCQTYP/3U6jOhLjLtGeI7gp9GQshia5LjNHJ rS8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.74.8 with SMTP id p8mr5795147obv.41.1333893100125; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.37.225 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 06:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:51:40 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?QWlyb3NvzrJpY3ogZmIu?= To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Matthew Seaman Subject: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:51:41 -0000 Hi Matthew, Thanx for the quick reply.. Can't get it to work though.. On 08/04/2012 09:53, Airoso=CE=B2icz fb. wrote: > > So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 & now the system can't mount in single > > user mode to go through the final step of installing the world.. > > As was mentioned else-thread, you are probably hitting problems due to > the name change from ad(4) to ada(4) for PATA/SATA disk devices. > It's starting to make sense now.. Mounting ufs:/dev/ad*a*2s1a i.o. from ufs:/dev/ad2s1a simply doesn't work because as I've put in my original post with # ls -l /dev/ad* it doesn't exist.. Only ad2,ad2s1 & ad2s1a do.. > One way to fix this is simply to type in the new boot device in the > loader and then edit /etc/fstab from single user mode > Which boot device..? I wish it was simple.. The preferred method nowadays is to label the partitions, so probably > tunefs(8) labelling would be the best choice to get you through > the 8.1 -> 9.0 reboot. ie. Create the label: > > # tunefs -L ROOT /dev/as2s1a > # man 8 tunefs: The tunefs can not be run on an active filesystem. To change an active filesystem it must be downgraded to read only or to unmounted.. [Which I've done with # mount -r -f..] # tunefs: /dev/ad2s1a: failed to write superblock.. I've updated the /etc/fstab with the ROOT label but I can't get the single-user mount nor the tunefs to work.. Regards, E. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 14:06:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5530D106566C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348D28FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:06:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=YhPGaPwRZlplFjNV0MOf4Vq7/0po/YhkD/lYNUNW/P8=; b=d1qrAyyx5py/478QAsa88j/ubWCZUcmRAe0s/Vd0QR3PDT48G8zE2Rd9AWJIaRNnu8nRY1fzAWeEFiux2NKdnHQVx+YBLANJuIm04HHFXt+k4EvfYobb8zpP0KJH7Ual+5Da79KxZlBkwroWgMaNTPs9zYs/F6okmfZoIWAjZds= Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.209.140]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 8 Apr 2012 07:06:06 -0700 Message-ID: <4F819B4C.1030004@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:06:04 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Apr 2012 14:06:07.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE005860:01CD1590] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:06:12 -0000 Tony wrote: > Hello! > > As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate > identity. Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have a > design that reflects this. A design that is so neutral and stripped of any > unnecessary details that the user's attention is directed straight on to > the content as opposed to how the content looks. A design that you can look > at over and over without getting annoyed. > Since you seem to know so much about web design WHY don't you create your version for review and maybe acceptance if the community likes it? 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm53923847yhk.0.2012.04.08.07.30.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VQcVn04H1z2CG5m for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:30:08 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120408103008.7fab29b4@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnWSm3+ZPphsx0w66NEEdSpNMkRyNuzmSzaOkgS3S+Y8uM+qxhXiHcOF2QfJmYXADbwpqK2 Subject: Re: FreeBSD losing market share? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:30:12 -0000 On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:22:47 +0200 Tony articulated: > Just look at how well low-cost airlines > Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF724106566B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6628FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from LENOVOD6B52A6B by ezwind.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 35-md50000130159.msg for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:37:16 -0500 From: "Jay West" To: "'Tony'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01cd1595$17fd2970$47f77c50$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0VisZJg7wKNyx0QmufA6KAaqkW4wABU/pQ Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:37:16 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 71.14.76.230 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD losing market share? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:37:24 -0000 Tony wrote... ------------------- I'm a bit alarmed by the fact that none of the major low-cost Xen VPS-based hosting providers in the modern web development scene (Rackspace, Linode, SliceHost, Webbynode etc.) offer FreeBSD hosting. Sure there are some that offer dedicated servers like M5 Hosting, RootBSD, Pair etc. but those are hard to find and ridiculously expensive. Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen? ------------------- One could also ask why Xen doesn't support FreeBSD ;) I've been a loyal FreeBSD zealot for decades and I still am. However, I have to admit, there are two severe shortcomings - not all entirely freebsd's fault - that keep it out of Xen hosting (and some other high end) environments. The answer is: 1) No true clustered filesystem (GFS for one example). Takes it out of the running completely for those environments. Hast is a wonderful step in the right direction, but really not the answer. 2) Xen - Xen-Tools have not been supported on FreeBSD to this day. Without it, there's little sense in running FreeBSD in a commercial hosting environment under XenServer. No live migration, and half the other nice features aren't available. If Xen-tools was supported in FreeBSD, I'm sure you'd see it popping up as a guest in XenServer hosting providers. J From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 14:39:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF541065670; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A608FC08; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q38Ed4KZ007736; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:39:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q38Ed40c007733; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:39:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:39:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: =?ISO-8859-7?Q?Airoso=E2icz_fb=2E?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:39:04 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:39:10 -0000 On Sun, 8 Apr 2012, Airoso?icz fb. wrote: > It's starting to make sense now.. Mounting ufs:/dev/ad*a*2s1a i.o. from > ufs:/dev/ad2s1a simply doesn't work because as I've put in my original > post with # ls -l /dev/ad* it doesn't exist.. Only ad2,ad2s1 & ad2s1a do.. ada device numbering is relative, so the first drive found is always ada0. If there are no ada devices in /dev at all, I'd guess too much has been removed from the custom kernel. > # man 8 tunefs: The tunefs can not be run on an active filesystem. > To change an active filesystem it must be downgraded to read only or > to unmounted.. [Which I've done with # mount -r -f..] > > # tunefs: /dev/ad2s1a: failed to write superblock.. > > I've updated the /etc/fstab with the ROOT label but I can't get the > single-user mount nor the tunefs to work.. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html shows a full example. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 14:42:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47D7106566C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD288FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from LENOVOD6B52A6B by ezwind.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 42-md50000130140.msg for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:41:22 -0500 From: "Jay West" To: "'Adam Vande More'" References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0UbUer4HBtbFpyTgOKPLy1f4RuzwBJ/YuQ Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:41:22 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 71.14.76.230 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: 'mikel king' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:42:00 -0000 Adam wrote... Otherwise, it's time to abandon steamships for airplanes. Sounds like you have a primed business opportunity just waiting to be exploited. ----------- Actually, this is for a historical re-creation project. Airplanes would be entirely inappropriate for a historical display, so steamships it is. Last I checked, there was no primed business opportunity in doing something for non-profits (museums, etc.) :) I guess I'll have to see how tough it would be to yank the TR code from 7x and get it running under 9x. Probably above my skillset, but I'll have a looksee. J From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 16:17:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E57106566B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 16:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935EB8FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 16:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so6716541iah.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eHvSga7Vd+9kDY7c7HcG8aKnaGG3up0fb+d2g2APvZs=; b=Jnj9jckmtXpjlymQGlBU6zS0yBbacBYi/dPAhSB7cjBEVPNm5AMAcgjZH6Jkar7Rtf VleHzz3wV9sHvEvfDMWNVVPMOSV8wuyyd4yxoQ3qiJJyqNchWEOhlQg5vXQE2SM+j3y+ a88H7V8E414rcr/mewxrzA+8trshSGLJSHLFpFdY6hW29OoYfnOyPh5HGM+d8uspcrok lx7rGoIPg6QkGR27drF6N2mEswfn892xiINAcemlUrH8Wy7XusdXI28OP1IRuEzFgT84 c3KIL9HKvKfLw/uh5qg4+YAPDPwGJg4tHDw5VvPJ1pQGGKDAYI7vE+mslwCGHzfzBnRn y2hw== Received: by 10.42.139.9 with SMTP id e9mr2448030icu.43.1333901864088; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-197-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id md6sm28233242igc.0.2012.04.08.09.17.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F81BA14.6030706@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:17:24 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:17:44 -0000 On 4/8/2012 8:51 AM, Airosoβicz fb. wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > Thanx for the quick reply.. Can't get it to work though.. > > On 08/04/2012 09:53, Airosoβicz fb. wrote: >>> So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0& now the system can't mount in single >>> user mode to go through the final step of installing the world.. >> > > >> As was mentioned else-thread, you are probably hitting problems due to >> the name change from ad(4) to ada(4) for PATA/SATA disk devices. >> > > It's starting to make sense now.. Mounting ufs:/dev/ad*a*2s1a i.o. from > ufs:/dev/ad2s1a simply doesn't work because as I've put in my original > post with # ls -l /dev/ad* it doesn't exist.. Only ad2,ad2s1& ad2s1a do.. > > >> One way to fix this is simply to type in the new boot device in the >> loader and then edit /etc/fstab from single user mode >> > > Which boot device..? I wish it was simple.. > When you get to the loader, escape to the loader prompt. Then type lsdev to see what the loader finds. You'll have to find which one looks right, and type that into the mount failed prompt. After it's done booting, check /dev to make sure it looks right and change your fstab. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 16:21:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2E6106566C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 16:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7178FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 16:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so6719351iah.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:21:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2Gz6+IhAG7r/IDgKCfh2upYnZVXLgWWtFHkdjIq3osg=; b=iHGN3uV8zyjgGYn8aVtvzUyzutufyj/dn59z2HN61Exdlp0IT3LwLx1dWq+SWItkY0 DQDmzBCQ2cKU3nnxUx6t0hJ/n/bnVc8p3xjP9WZICvuNcSxEAW1fTKV7dYNqPB6+KemI f5B4AqNXcqk/qcZj/DpMTqSEyA1OKVS7UWm07sTwtaRDI7agDeLmxwp/fCeDYuDFVgqB czxIwSg9yWOl2MDZ1bLyRBfCyIXj9YAMmw6+cPSc5i0ueM1IqAQnMEDA/q+7IOSEnM1J rzpYMFTSGiSXjTUGyXPu2L1W422ILSW4Xx/3dKSAUumcqQnfPjq9eihkRrfCVSdnzHwO /WUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.46.138 with SMTP id v10mr3031728igm.18.1333902069281; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.65.72 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:21:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20353.32554.960087.215889@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20353.32554.960087.215889@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:21:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ghostscript message when running ps2pdf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:21:09 -0000 On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Antonio Olivares writes: > >> =A0Has anyone seen the following message: >> >> =A0GPL Ghostscript 9.05: Error: Font Renderer Plugin ( FreeType ) return= code =3D -1? >> >> =A0This is the first time I see this error message when running >> =A0ps2pdf on FreeBSD. =A0Any pointers as to how to suppress these >> =A0messages when invoking ps2pdf? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I have not seen this message. =A0However, I note Freetype(= 2) > recently had a minor version bump. Have you updated that port, and > could this be the cause of this problem? > That is it. The update in ports cures this message :) Thanks for the information. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 17:16:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E217106564A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521B78FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa07 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q38Gui1b023569; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:16:51 -0500 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 1434n69ax7-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 08 Apr 2012 12:16:51 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.101] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:16:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:16:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <037B3FEC-F9C0-434F-BB9A-C299D4BE45B5@fisglobal.com> References: To: Tony X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-04-08_06:2012-04-05, 2012-04-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:16:58 -0000 On Apr 8, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Tony wrote: > Hello! >=20 > As much as I love FreeBSD, [snip] > I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on > Helvetica. [snip] > Tony [snip] > http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ It's like a punch-line almost. I admit to enjoying the "Helvetica Trailer" video linked-to above. I even admit to liking the proposed motto's. But I disagree with any sentiment that designcouncil.org.uk embodies the sa= me clean lines and well-thought-out design that is being encouraged here. M= ost egregious is the mishmash of serif with sans-serif and misaligned conte= nt areas. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 17:51:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C29106566B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8355F8FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so6791520iah.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ukvSKSZKm4kif46c/6wI7cEgWPVgZU5nENT15z03JAc=; b=DNEHMTWKnJk7crswSk2AZNIqdHCzULNqjJKFyNiwDm8ZDDMrH0JpNasrLYVb05nzSJ EOBOXCaBAgGs1o3PVKrDLcsTF7UgWCX75AGkqgsT9U0t42elpce2sORxtLWbBaYMrM/y hmb5B7JwePcpMZZ3Qh1SqD/os3wLHyJGFx2GK0hlBkdW7IEZMkv+NMMj+a2iqLCNbWoM qS0nswZheOnklS8+1jRrJ/PdhySiL1EmYKmyQc8XHHP4gAbQWlefTPWz8PKDwXTHeT3j 6rYTrFfjlxX4nrifTYn1cSNL6qYfmb7UgozPVVcTCYjEiKkTv2ATcwHUdky4EDbTsJxE JIlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.46.138 with SMTP id v10mr3154374igm.18.1333907457610; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.65.72 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:50:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: icedtea-web with openjdk 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:51:03 -0000 Dear folks, I am seeing that java 7 is now available and there is an openjdk 7 port. I have a question. I just want to have java jre only. Is there a way to use openjdk 7 with FreeBSD? and configure icedtea-web to use it? It selects openjdk6 as its dependency when configuring the port. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 21:44:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB0A106564A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 21:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7D48FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 21:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so3037205wer.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:44:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uX0QjLr6B52hFG7ioOpDJI/XNhLqu9LMl3DGCkeHlR4=; b=rfdQ3gygyKHFbGteKAa3nkoSXT0dBCR4ibJw+xkG3/cN1KTbRlcWXSKFf/jYZ3147N CX2kaDtGwb/FfHkzn+p3ebWLU1Bx71xChNmlWItfdDIGJkpVVnVV5IZt92p5qABuadem hYrWyVJKyJ/V8p49F//HB6DR00UuO5fuH2kGVQ1pqaSahLEVa/DSm0onGqiCsgQzrzAa 9MA3abDdFI78e+1oRqXnHDJH0LxoOp1YmjmZSKOLPqYtfTvnq3LzhCkacVnjnoHKG7jX ojDRFNqacFVawy0HJk4jPK38VNt07az4y4A4NclwfkEISKltHteODokaNzDr5+RD8D/v 1YBA== Received: by 10.216.85.81 with SMTP id t59mr2998757wee.28.1333921490573; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gd4sm40938801wib.6.2012.04.08.14.44.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 22:44:47 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120408224447.692a9e2a@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:44:52 -0000 On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:40:12 +0200 Tony wrote: > Tony > http://siegelgale.com/ The FreeBSD site isn't great, but this site is worse. Has no-one ever pointed-out the irony that the top 20% of the page bangs-on about simplifying, and has a "fight bloat on your website" link, but the other 80% is a cluttered mess. It also has a pet hate of mine: menus that make the rest of the page move around even when the pointer is just passing-over them. I can forgive the FreeBSD site all its faults for not doing that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 23:04:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A99C1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 23:04:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C0AF8FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 23:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Apr 2012 23:03:55 -0000 Received: from g229013113.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.178.28]) [92.229.13.113] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us008) with SMTP; 08 Apr 2012 19:03:55 -0400 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18NPgRYNukNSr+lju11bTwcTLZpw86d1ttPbI3nSi UXlMATQHIcJsrc Message-ID: <4F821954.1060302@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 01:03:48 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay West References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> In-Reply-To: <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: 'Adam Vande More' , 'mikel king' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 23:04:03 -0000 On 4/8/2012 4:41 PM, Jay West wrote: > Adam wrote... > > Otherwise, it's time to abandon steamships for airplanes. Sounds like you > have a primed business opportunity just waiting to be exploited. > > ----------- > Actually, this is for a historical re-creation project. Airplanes would be > entirely inappropriate for a historical display, so steamships it is. Last I > checked, there was no primed business opportunity in doing something for > non-profits (museums, etc.) :) > > I guess I'll have to see how tough it would be to yank the TR code from 7x > and get it running under 9x. Probably above my skillset, but I'll have a > looksee. > > J > Hi, You could try finding an "ethernet to token ring" translating bridge, though I am not aware of the budget will need - or if you'll find one anyways. Just a thought, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 23:49:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1995C106566C for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 23:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC3A8FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 23:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4287B5C22 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:02:53 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F8223FB.8070305@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:49:15 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F81BA14.6030706@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F81BA14.6030706@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 23:49:24 -0000 On 04/09/12 02:17, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 4/8/2012 8:51 AM, Airosoβicz fb. wrote: >> Hi Matthew, >> >> Thanx for the quick reply.. Can't get it to work though.. >> >> On 08/04/2012 09:53, Airosoβicz fb. wrote: >>>> So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0& now the system can't mount in >>>> single >>>> user mode to go through the final step of installing the world.. >>> >> >> >>> As was mentioned else-thread, you are probably hitting problems due to >>> the name change from ad(4) to ada(4) for PATA/SATA disk devices. >>> >> >> It's starting to make sense now.. Mounting ufs:/dev/ad*a*2s1a i.o. from >> ufs:/dev/ad2s1a simply doesn't work because as I've put in my original >> post with # ls -l /dev/ad* it doesn't exist.. Only ad2,ad2s1& ad2s1a >> do.. >> >> >>> One way to fix this is simply to type in the new boot device in the >>> loader and then edit /etc/fstab from single user mode >>> >> >> Which boot device..? I wish it was simple.. >> > > When you get to the loader, escape to the loader prompt. Then type > lsdev to see what the loader finds. You'll have to find which one > looks right, and type that into the mount failed prompt. After it's > done booting, check /dev to make sure it looks right and change your > fstab. From a theoretical point of view (I'll have to consider this for my own needs in the near future) I'd say the labeling option mentioned by Warren would be better for the long term. It may seem a little complicated to setup but it will work just about anywhere. If you continue with devices as you are at the moment you run the risk of having this trouble every time something changes. My 2c. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 00:00:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDAC106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 00:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43EF8FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 00:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D743A5C22 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:14:05 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F82269C.2030701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:00:28 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120408224447.692a9e2a@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120408224447.692a9e2a@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 00:00:30 -0000 On 04/09/12 07:44, RW wrote: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:40:12 +0200 > Tony wrote: > >> Tony >> http://siegelgale.com/ > The FreeBSD site isn't great, but this site is worse. > > Has no-one ever pointed-out the irony that the top 20% of the page > bangs-on about simplifying, and has a "fight bloat on your website" > link, but the other 80% is a cluttered mess. > > It also has a pet hate of mine: menus that make the rest of the page > move around even when the pointer is just passing-over them. I can > forgive the FreeBSD site all its faults for not doing that. > The FreeBSD site is accessible (as is legal required) and to the point. That is what matters. It provides all the information needed and communicates it exceedingly well. FreeBSD is a no nonsense get the job done without bloat OS: the site communicates that as well, and communication is not just about the words. My 2c. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 01:08:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DC6106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 01:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9798FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 01:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q390oSZn071636; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 20:50:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q390oS9R071635; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 20:50:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 20:50:28 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jay West Message-ID: <20120409005028.GB71564@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <000a01cd1595$17fd2970$47f77c50$@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000a01cd1595$17fd2970$47f77c50$@net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 'Tony' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD losing market share? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 01:08:59 -0000 On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:37:15AM -0500, Jay West wrote: > Tony wrote... > ------------------- > I'm a bit alarmed by the fact that none of the major low-cost Xen VPS-based > hosting providers in the modern web development > scene (Rackspace, > Linode, SliceHost, Webbynode etc.) offer FreeBSD hosting. Sure there are > some that offer dedicated servers like M5 Hosting, RootBSD, Pair etc. but > those are hard to find and ridiculously expensive. > > Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen? > ------------------- > > One could also ask why Xen doesn't support FreeBSD ;) > > I've been a loyal FreeBSD zealot for decades and I still am. However, I have > to admit, there are two severe shortcomings - not all entirely freebsd's > fault - that keep it out of Xen hosting (and some other high end) > environments. The answer is: > > 1) No true clustered filesystem (GFS for one example). Takes it out of the > running completely for those environments. Hast is a wonderful step in the > right direction, but really not the answer. > 2) Xen - Xen-Tools have not been supported on FreeBSD to this day. Without > it, there's little sense in running FreeBSD in a commercial hosting > environment under XenServer. No live migration, and half the other nice > features aren't available. > > If Xen-tools was supported in FreeBSD, I'm sure you'd see it popping up as a > guest in XenServer hosting providers. Well, guess you and Tony have some work to do then. I expect it will be more than a weekend project for you. ////jerry > > J > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 01:34:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB7A106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 01:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828DF8FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 01:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds12 with SMTP id ds12so3801390wgb.31 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:34:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W+ywC4sikLknQTMy4RVZ4EmVH2CFiwQa+1AjwZHhvn4=; b=gidXCXSutODHTXey9hWQr627Y4JLYhFCNIixwBL1F4eH8mpcRbDcXdDWTgA5N0/2OT 8XbzwHDT2OIc/7we3SrIf2TF3Ltrt6ArTUWzakijtj/wPKG9aomEfEiiHKEhqS0T/zM/ DBl+lcwXZ8Q9aLQiMjHys5JxlhgAo9Op0NE7cufQgn9XoJPHzB3OabMW70A3I61ofjMQ hvtUOI5jwGWdoSzrSNiVxMhpaun8IOP21nOwEHTuiqsnDS6Cp/PJ5A1pi9eMALoP2NOZ s+m2lVLTbXuvZ+pQScW0KbWdnxT5ryBIQJMHyLpwzq5YrpBcyduHKL2x6TpaGFsYo0ZJ oFkw== Received: by 10.180.95.37 with SMTP id dh5mr12320842wib.8.1333935242466; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ff9sm26432429wib.2.2012.04.08.18.34.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:33:59 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120409023359.57387483@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120408224447.692a9e2a@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 01:34:04 -0000 On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 01:25:54 +0200 Mikkel Bang wrote: > Den 23:44 8. april 2012 skrev RW > f=F8lgende: >=20 > > > > The FreeBSD site isn't great, but this site is worse. > > > > Has no-one ever pointed-out the irony that the top 20% of the page > > bangs-on about simplifying, and has a "fight bloat on your website" > > link, but the other 80% is a cluttered mess. > > > > It also has a pet hate of mine: menus that make the rest of the page > > move around even when the pointer is just passing-over them. I can > > forgive the FreeBSD site all its faults for not doing that. > > >=20 > I understand you're trying to stand up for FreeBSD,=20 You understand wrongly. I don't really care about the FreeBSD site. I genuinely think that Siegel+Gale have a substandard website. Take a look at the Royal Academy and Design Council sites he linked - it's not in the same league. > but what you're > saying makes little sense. Siegel+Gale is one of the world's most > respected design agencies. And like, who are you?=20 So what are you saying? - I'm automatically wrong (irrespective of the facts) because they're respected design agency and I'm a nobody - You didn't understand what I wrote.=20 - you disagree with a specific point that you're not bothering to mention >Haters gonna hate. I'm not a hater. I'm at most a mocker. In particular I find it amusing that their own website fails to follow the vision that they advocate for other peoples. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 04:04:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E3E106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 04:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317278FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 04:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwc18 with SMTP id wc18so7066640obb.13 for ; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OjMDyp3HWodqlNpyQB+lT/IPses8cI9iA4Hi6UcLxRM=; b=SdLz5LSlhByWQEcTbEeyW6JrMC6tP//Vojb0yyfJDGlUPUvRPWAFw2lKCB7RZXv0qj jcSbHR2pLjp6a3Wol6QoTdwm5eheWGgswMwdr34anWOIGNlDIUkDw/BcA672cKOdVP0c +rTH4iC6IRT0fa76DNlcixK9LoFItPrWle9HmkOUZR8eKlzPSYECa1H2Qw9Fals3fuOK XaklJbLZ6Jcso5Clf/hoVb32ZVSV4wS5pA7D8adpE8viNxzp/f4LGnpe49qe6kYmKuCh Sp6pnXbTD7db7uhwTv7zgHBt5HopFbEV52wnoLyOeUpvbe40rBx09v3rq1tePdjIZD2z pH6g== Received: by 10.60.27.170 with SMTP id u10mr8059934oeg.50.1333944248802; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id om2sm15111181obc.6.2012.04.08.21.04.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F8260DD.5040204@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:09:01 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120329 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 04:04:09 -0000 On 04/08/2012 05:40 AM, Tony wrote: > Hello! > > As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate > identity. Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have a > design that reflects this. A design that is so neutral and stripped of any > unnecessary details that the user's attention is directed straight on to > the content as opposed to how the content looks. A design that you can look > at over and over without getting annoyed. > > The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more > forced than well thought out. First you have the shiny Satanic 3D-lookalike > logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) that might look cool > the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like "what the > hell *is* that thing anyway"? (ref: Tres > Logos > ) > > Then you have a surrounding layout trying to cater to that logo, but fails > miserably as it was made by programmers as opposed to people with an actual > education in design. There is no natural > flow and the whole thing just > comes off as corny - > and this makes us all look bad. I also hear > PostgreSQLis planning to sue FreeBSD for > stealing its design. > > I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on > Helvetica. > No devil logo, no bells and whistles, just straight forward "FreeBSD" - the > world's best operating system. So simple that hardly anything it will go > out of fashion and need to be replaced, so simple that it'll remain as > current now as it will be a hundred years from now. > > "Perfection is achieved, not when there's nothing left to add, but when > there's nothing left to take away." > > Tony > http://siegelgale.com/ > http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Now your are starting to sound like a troll. get lost From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 05:53:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E581065672 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 05:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D7D8FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 05:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE45C24720; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:52:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q395quaG002051; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:52:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:52:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tony Message-Id: <20120409075256.577df938.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 05:53:05 -0000 On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:40:12 +0200, Tony wrote: > Hello! > > As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate > identity. What's wrong with it? It's very accessible (especially for blind users) and it presents the availabe information in a structured way. Sure, it does not use many of today's "modern" extensions to get simple things done, as it uses _simple_ things to get them done (e. g. a href= for a link istead of "Flash"), but that's not a problem in my opinion. The pages load fast, they display well in all four major browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera), and it even renders properly in browsers with limited abilities (lynx, links, w3m, dillo). Your next point: Corporate identity. I sadly fail to see where FreeBSD can be seen as a corporation. It's rather a community, having some core installations, but it's not a company that has to maintain a specific "design" across all its products. However, FreeBSD's projects are consistent regarding naming and logos. > Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have a > design that reflects this. In your opinion, what would you consider a good example to imitiate, or at least to consider as a source of inspiration? I don't say design couldn't be improved - but what are _your_ opinions in how it should be done? Can you be more specific? > A design that is so neutral and stripped of any > unnecessary details that the user's attention is directed straight on to > the content as opposed to how the content looks. A design that you can look > at over and over without getting annoyed. Hmmm... I always thought exactly that is what the "landing page" of the FreeBSD project already is. You're describing the status quo. > The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more > forced than well thought out. That may be due to the reason that those are different project which are somewhat independent. The home page is a different thing than the documentation (different maintainers, different projects), and the wiki, as well as other sources, are "associated projects" not governed by the the "core team" of the FreeBSD project. > First you have the shiny Satanic 3D-lookalike > logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) [...] Despite you say the opposite, it's not. :-) > [...] that might look cool > the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like "what the > hell *is* that thing anyway"? It's a logo, nothing more, nothing less. There are many logos in the corporate world that raise the question of "What _is_ this?!", and even in some cases, it cannot be answered because it's _nothing_ (except a graphical exercise). See the logo in that way, and see the mascot. Both of them are not satanic. They have horns, the mascot has a tail. A bull also has horns and a tail. Is it satanic therefore? Would you refuse to eat a steak because it might be satanic as well? > (ref: Tres > Logos > ) This reference cannot be reviewed for free, so I sadly have to discard it. If you could be more specific on the FreeBSD case, please _be_ more specific. > Then you have a surrounding layout trying to cater to that logo, but fails > miserably as it was made by programmers as opposed to people with an actual > education in design . No, the design caters the _content_. That is the purpose of design aiming at the designated target audience. > There is no natural > flow and the whole thing just > comes off as corny - > and this makes us all look bad. I also hear > PostgreSQLis planning to sue FreeBSD for > stealing its design. Let's watch the result of the lawsuit then. :-) > I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on > Helvetica. I don't think you can consider a font being the center of a web design. What if that font isn't even installed? What if a blind user accesses the page? Even though I like the Helvetica font, I believe it's not enough, and even not possible to "design around" a font. Or am I misunderstanding your intention? > No devil logo, [...] There already is no devil logo. > [...] no bells and whistles, [...] Fully agreed, and already present. > "Perfection is achieved, not when there's nothing left to add, but when > there's nothing left to take away." Very good. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 06:01:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E093A106566B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 06:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDEB8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 06:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B401E2B3; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:01:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q396157e002086; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:01:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:01:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tony Message-Id: <20120409080105.002d0aaf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD losing market share? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 06:01:07 -0000 Tony, I'm always fascinated how people consider market share the purpose of everyone and everything. FreeBSD is not a profit-oriented company (it's not even a company in this regards), and you can hardly _measure_ its market share. Hell, you can't even measure its _usage share_! Unlike corporations with a certain income model where unit sales can be counted, you cannot count them for FreeBSD as anyone can download and install as many copies of it as he likes. Due to the licensing model, derived works that are turned into a closed-source project can even be attributed to a different company (e. g. a FreeBSD-derived OS that is installed into an embedded system acting as a firewall will sales_units++; for that company, not for FreeBSD). You have _no_, I repeat >>>NO<<< means to determine how many FreeBSD systems are currently up and running. That would be usage share. Market share is a measuring model that you can't even apply to FreeBSD in my opinion. On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:22:47 +0200, Tony wrote: > Imagine how FreeBSD's market share and popularity would skyrocket once > regular people gets access to it. FreeBSD has no "market share", if you apply the term correctly, as it is not part of "the market". > Low-cost hosting definitely is the way of > the future. I'm not sure it is. Even by the means of "cloud computing" prices are still rising (due to energy costs increasing), and only efficiency is a way to chance this trend. Sadly, requirements to not follow this approach, which makes things becoming more expensive in the future. "Unlimited data" is also a thing that, in my opinion, will disappear in the future. Lean and fast applications will have a renaissance. > Just look at how well low-cost > airlinesare > doing. Are _currently_ doing, but they will sooner or later be out of fuel. Fuel is becoming more expensive as the available amount is limited. If you consider such things "on the long run", you will surely have to admit that a short-time strategy ("being cheap right now") does not pay. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 06:10:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC466106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 06:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EF668FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 06:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1951 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2012 06:10:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2012 06:10:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=rG8SHTeN2lHCUYuWw2m+hfHVq3vQN+lG95m+lQ+XkIA=; b=ZKaT4v0E7D+0x7CG0d240m1izDvZoYaBrH8NmRni2uLX7zN0MMMCK68AqXlfot5d8CTadhqZ5C+zE83ZI8GVpns8u9+Dc5A/ybAs7N42kOR0cxMobrQIOhBJtbfO5v1f; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SH7oI-0002eH-K1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 00:10:42 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 00:10:41 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120409061041.GA19613@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <037B3FEC-F9C0-434F-BB9A-C299D4BE45B5@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <037B3FEC-F9C0-434F-BB9A-C299D4BE45B5@fisglobal.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 06:10:43 -0000 On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:16:49AM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: > On Apr 8, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Tony wrote: > > > > http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ > > It's like a punch-line almost. > > I admit to enjoying the "Helvetica Trailer" video linked-to above. > > I even admit to liking the proposed motto's. > > But I disagree with any sentiment that designcouncil.org.uk embodies > the same clean lines and well-thought-out design that is being > encouraged here. Most egregious is the mishmash of serif with > sans-serif and misaligned content areas. I thought maybe you were just being snarky here, but then I took a look at the site. I actually had a minimal "education" in design, once upon a time, and the first thing I think when I see the Design Council site is "Was that thing designed by children?" It is nothing like what Tony suggests would be a good approach to the design of the FreeBSD site, which is actually a good recommendation for the design he suggests for the FreeBSD site. Gawd, it's comically bad for something called the "Design Council", unless you take the name as an ironic reference to the idea that design by committee is a horrible idea. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 07:08:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7B5106566B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9D68FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF3835C22 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:22:33 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F828B07.9000706@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:08:55 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120409080105.002d0aaf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120409080105.002d0aaf.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD losing market share? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 07:08:58 -0000 On 04/09/12 16:01, Polytropon wrote: > Tony, I'm always fascinated how people consider market share the > purpose of everyone and everything. FreeBSD is not a profit-oriented > company (it's not even a company in this regards), and you can > hardly _measure_ its market share. Hell, you can't even measure > its _usage share_! Unlike corporations with a certain income model > where unit sales can be counted, you cannot count them for FreeBSD > as anyone can download and install as many copies of it as he > likes. Due to the licensing model, derived works that are turned > into a closed-source project can even be attributed to a different > company (e. g. a FreeBSD-derived OS that is installed into an > embedded system acting as a firewall will sales_units++; for that > company, not for FreeBSD). You have _no_, I repeat>>>NO<<< means > to determine how many FreeBSD systems are currently up and running. > That would be usage share. Market share is a measuring model that > you can't even apply to FreeBSD in my opinion. > > > > On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:22:47 +0200, Tony wrote: >> Imagine how FreeBSD's market share and popularity would skyrocket once >> regular people gets access to it. > FreeBSD has no "market share", if you apply the term correctly, > as it is not part of "the market". And regular people already can access it. They can use it freely as much as they like and get free help to boot (though I hope they reciprocate in kind in some way). Unlike certain OS you have to actually pay for to use and pay to get help, such as a certain popular OS which supposedly has 90% market share and gives all a headache... ;) Community is a so much nicer term for this phenomena. > > >> Low-cost hosting definitely is the way of >> the future. > I'm not sure it is. Even by the means of "cloud computing" prices > are still rising (due to energy costs increasing), and only efficiency > is a way to chance this trend. Sadly, requirements to not follow this > approach, which makes things becoming more expensive in the future. > "Unlimited data" is also a thing that, in my opinion, will disappear > in the future. Lean and fast applications will have a renaissance. > > > >> Just look at how well low-cost >> airlinesare >> doing. > Are _currently_ doing, but they will sooner or later be out of fuel. > Fuel is becoming more expensive as the available amount is limited. > If you consider such things "on the long run", you will surely have > to admit that a short-time strategy ("being cheap right now") does > not pay. > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 07:10:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7431B106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA9A8FC1E for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q397AhoA021079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Apr 2012 00:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q397AhvQ021078; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 00:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18160; Mon, 9 Apr 12 00:05:31 PDT Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 07:04:27 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jwest@ezwind.net Message-Id: <4f82ec6b.0EU1Qc3X9OJZStzI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> In-Reply-To: <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: amvandemore@gmail.com, mikel.king@olivent.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 07:10:51 -0000 "Jay West" wrote: > this is for a historical re-creation project ... > > I guess I'll have to see how tough it would be to yank > the TR code from 7x and get it running under 9x. Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal easier, to just use the version of FreeBSD that corresponds to the historical era being re-created? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 10:14:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C302A106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466408FC18 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so4167006bkc.13 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 03:14:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pX9GBnh56SbCfIcZ1GTMpjzWzB9GDgSp8p+b4DeyVKg=; b=h81Uvy45bek3rxxeVHCKZnGBt7Faf16OS3C94eeazXpVLhAoCxvYo76Vc7PxSjCSNB ys2UNlNm4YOU/eX5pWgAthTVQ+guGhvm9pwJb2ix1NR8lWoifC1hI3W8JGgs98RcTaEX rILgluF1awvh27juSKz23Pf0pvxuuCG2dFOuX5sW1WnvSL/Gcc8phsyKucoTDDlG081H o+lPuMXQW0Lr36jPhsV5KT17Hzspld78gHMHhhhPb4RPHW6If8NkXd1o3FXkKT4GLlOK SFcq9F4Kin0PaD6/G9h+NGy6wT67x5Y/p4JcTJyhX4pfGKuy7znHWFMM2/VdkAPxGAvO o/AQ== Received: by 10.204.152.27 with SMTP id e27mr2781848bkw.55.1333966447317; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 03:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from green.tandem.local (25-191-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net. [95.132.191.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z17sm29047223bkw.12.2012.04.09.03.14.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Apr 2012 03:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F82B66B.1030608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:14:03 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aleksandr Miroslav References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how often to update ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:14:08 -0000 Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > How often do you folks update your ports/packages. I was manging two > servers for years for my personal web/email, and I've rarely gone for > more than 3 months with any single package being not up to date, > usually about once a month I would update all my ports. > > > Recently, in the past few months or so, I've added several more > servers, I currently have around 10 servers that I'm managing, and > because of changes in my work schedule, it has become somewhat quite > tedious to do this (keep ports updated as frequently, I mean). > >> From what I've gleaned from this list and other BSD mailing lists that > I'm on, is that some people don't update their port-installed packages > nearly as frequently (security patches/updates aside). Some people go > for months/years without doing so. > > So I'm curious, how often do you keep your ports update, and what are > the reasons for doing so? I update my desktops daily. The process is streamlined and doesn't need an eye on it. I'm updating servers weekly or so. This means I have smaller blob of updates and almost never face large updates that broke everything. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 10:49:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35411065673 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4BC8FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [109.85.58.25] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1SHC5A-0006k2-RI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:44:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:34:55 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120409123455.15444b24@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <20120409075256.577df938.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120409075256.577df938.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/rCTlEa2keP+fo5ySTFaEZ1Q"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:49:46 -0000 --Sig_/rCTlEa2keP+fo5ySTFaEZ1Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:40:12 +0200, Tony wrote: > > As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corpora= te > > identity. >=20 > What's wrong with it? It's very accessible (especially for > blind users) and it presents the availabe information in a > structured way. Sure, it does not use many of today's "modern" > extensions to get simple things done, as it uses _simple_ things > to get them done (e. g. a href=3D for a link istead of "Flash"), > but that's not a problem in my opinion. The pages load fast, > they display well in all four major browsers (Firefox, Chrome, > Safari, Opera), and it even renders properly in browsers with > limited abilities (lynx, links, w3m, dillo). Actually the site does not "display well" in all four major browsers in general: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D91539 It might work with your browser configuration but it fails with others. And while it might (or might not) be accessible for blind users, visually impaired users run into problems if they increase the browser's default font size. Fabian --Sig_/rCTlEa2keP+fo5ySTFaEZ1Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk+Cu1IACgkQBYqIVf93VJ1EhACfaIayDFkLImSPxdY9y9RRvnR+ 3PIAn2TilTa/hT+RSBWzp4IyJOCRud1N =KEFR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/rCTlEa2keP+fo5ySTFaEZ1Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 10:55:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46755106566B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BDA8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 10:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk4 with SMTP id k4so2114884ggn.13 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 03:55:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4nOMkZn3dgxP/pJ+z/Ot/EsisRMc7hhm7ByQnAFaU40=; b=FCEP8bu1zq9IFWRfcKw8DLGLdbHMK2IGnCNaf6wT4rr2OC6SaXfdWgcBMPwA3KPmxX 7+VL9d/jkDKvfyFF2+7gUhHAb5hLgarKr1+U71Ko5lyg6T8QPPg4sGoWvyVWRLKNA6vd IwPPaN+2v6qECUNTtcbySfvIAdS4VDg32PdOK9I3GjaqF0dAvOydczNmh074Yffx2+06 ZzmZz/X8r+JRypQzZ1JcmIAwKrHHIq1DU92NA6sMSzBDddvcbWuP3v+y728QHCjxjv5l eB2L0kxcvrsV2apWJIunzCAL8ImGLu+LzugejRdxVlMCMUsgnJlXSnLPlquGHPigE9vW 4Dpg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.79.8 with SMTP id h8mr5459423yhe.79.1333968906251; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 03:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.35.3 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 03:55:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> References: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:55:06 +0200 Message-ID: From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: problem with Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:55:07 -0000 On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:38:45PM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hi Bernt, > Hello list. > > When I try to start X I'm getting this error > > X.Org X Server 1.7.7 > Release Date: 2010-05-04 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 > Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD > 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 > root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM > > Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Apr 9 12:30:37 2012 Please, can you paste ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ thsi file to ie. pastebin.com and share the URL ? For better help. Thanks, see you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 11:03:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D2B106566B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333058FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0F805C22 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:17:21 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F82C20F.9070904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:03:43 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:03:47 -0000 On 04/09/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list. > > When I try to start X I'm getting this error Yep. This one will be fun... :) > > X.Org X Server 1.7.7 > Release Date: 2010-05-04 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 > Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD > 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 > root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM > > Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Apr 9 12:30:37 2012 > (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) > (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data > object. > (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) > Setting master > The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: > > Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 > symbols > > Ignoring extra symbols > Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server > xinit: connection to X server lost > > waiting for X server to shut down Dropping master First some questions: 1. Does the machine lock up when you run X? 2. Do you know what video card you're using? 3. What is the output of pciconf -lv, dmesg? 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? Finally, can you change the driver setting in the xorg.conf.new to vesa and run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new and see if it works then? Good luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 11:54:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00B7106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5918F8FC1D for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2012 07:54:34 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BKW20984; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:54:32 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2012 07:54:32 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20354.52727.340223.760020@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:54:31 -0400 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4f82ec6b.0EU1Qc3X9OJZStzI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> <4f82ec6b.0EU1Qc3X9OJZStzI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, amvandemore@gmail.com, jwest@ezwind.net, mikel.king@olivent.com Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:54:37 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com writes: > Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal > easier, to just use the version of FreeBSD that corresponds to > the historical era being re-created? And skip feature, performance, and security improvements made since? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 11:57:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4BE106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4895A8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A0D45C22 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:10:50 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F82CE99.2060005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:57:13 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> <4F82C20F.9070904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F82CA46.7000700@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4F82CA46.7000700@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:57:15 -0000 On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2012-04-09 13:03, Da Rock skrev: >> On 04/09/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> Hello list. >>> >>> When I try to start X I'm getting this error >> >> Yep. This one will be fun... :) >>> >>> X.Org X Server 1.7.7 >>> Release Date: 2010-05-04 >>> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >>> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 >>> Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD >>> 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 >>> root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>> Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM >>> >>> Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 >>> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >>> to make sure that you have the latest version. >>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >>> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >>> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Apr 9 12:30:37 2012 >>> (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) >>> (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data >>> object. >>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) >>> Setting master >>> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: >>>> Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 >>> symbols >>>> Ignoring extra symbols >>> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server >>> xinit: connection to X server lost >>> >>> waiting for X server to shut down Dropping master >> >> First some questions: >> >> 1. Does the machine lock up when you run X? > > No It doesn't but no picture. > >> 2. Do you know what video card you're using? > > Intel 845 > >> 3. What is the output of pciconf -lv, dmesg? > > pciconf -lv > hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x25608086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'DRAM Controller / Host-Hub I/F Bridge > (82845G/GL/GV/GE/PE)' > class = bridge > subclass = HOST-PCI > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x25628086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82845G/GL/GV/GE/PE Integrated Graphics Device' > class = display > subclass = VGA > uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24c28086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI > Controller *1' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24c48086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI > Controller *2' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24cd8086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI > Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 > rev=0x81 hdr=0x01 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub > Interface to PCI Bridge' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-PCI > isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24c08086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-ISA > atapci0@pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24cb8086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA/100 EIDE Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA > pcm0@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x00ad0e11 chip=0x24c58086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'Realtek AC97 Audio (82801DBM SoundMAXController > (ICH4-M B0 step))' > class = multimedia > subclass = audio > fxp0@pci0:5:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00120e11 chip=0x103b8086 > rev=0x81 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) PRO/100 VM Network > Connection' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > >> 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? > > No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the last option I offered _will_ work. You need to force it to use vesa and that is the only way. As a last chance perhaps run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new -retro and see if it does happen to work; this shows up the old test pattern so that you can see that X is actually running instead of a black screen. > >> Finally, can you change the driver setting in the xorg.conf.new to vesa >> and run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new and see if it works then? > > Well, starting X from remote it seems to catch on. > > Hmmm....Only as root. Well I'll try to rebuild it without SUID. > > This is from remote AND root > > X.Org X Server 1.7.7 > Release Date: 2010-05-04 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 > Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD > 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 > root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM > > Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Apr 9 13:27:32 2012 > (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) > (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data > object. > (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) > Setting master > > ^Cxinit: connection to X server lost > > waiting for X server to shut down xterm: fatal IO error 35 (Resource > temporarily unavailable) or KillClient on X server ":0" > xterm: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) or > KillClient on X server ":0" > XIO: fatal IO error 22 (Unknown error: 0) on X server ":0" > after 576 requests (576 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > xterm: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) or > KillClient on X server ":0" > Dropping master > > xinit: unexpected signal 2 > > > >> Good luck! > > I'll need it thank you. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 13:42:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9421065693 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D678FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from LENOVOD6B52A6B by ezwind.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 25-md50000130208.msg for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:42:23 -0500 From: "Jay West" To: "'Robert Huff'" , References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> <4f82ec6b.0EU1Qc3X9OJZStzI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20354.52727.340223.760020@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20354.52727.340223.760020@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:42:22 -0500 Message-ID: <001601cd1656$97de28d0$c79a7a70$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0WR5txzo7DeJQvQViidjJZs7W6lQACjebA Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:42:23 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 66.128.111.62 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: amvandemore@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mikel.king@olivent.com Subject: RE: Token Ring (really- and why) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:42:27 -0000 It was written.... ------------------- > Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal > easier, to just use the version of FreeBSD that corresponds to the > historical era being re-created? And skip feature, performance, and security improvements made since? ------------------- Not in this case on the former, and the latter - agreed. The real historical part and focus of the exhibit isn't the FreeBSD machine. It's a dual bay HP2000 Timeshare BASIC machine. It has been restored to pristine cosmetic and electrical running condition (2000/Access) and that's the focus of the exhibit. One neat feature of the HP2000, even though it was a dedicated basic interpreter environment, it had the ability to submit jobs to HASP/MVS. MVS could run the code and direct output back to files on the HP2000, output to devices on that system, etc. It's a really neat add-on feature of the display/project to include and demonstrate that functionality. Given that a full blown VM/360 system isn't in the picture, we've used Hercules. One issue is cobbling together some hardware glue to deal with the interface between the HP and the "IBM", basically emulating a sync modem and 2780 device on the Hercules side. That is mostly within my skillset. The other issue is that there needs to also be some terminal interaction on the "IBM" side, so we have a 3174 establishment controller with some 3179 terms and a 3290 gas plasma 4-session display. The 3174 attaches to the host (Hercules) via token ring. I had this all working perfectly with FreeBSD 7x, but when upgrading FreeBSD we lost token ring support. I could stay on an older version of FreeBSD, but then I am stuck with pretty old versions of Hercules (there are problems with newer versions of Hercules compiling under older versions of FreeBSD, some needed features are lacking in older versions of Hercules, etc.). So now you have the gory details as to "why". Yes, there are a few other possible ways to "skin this cat", but I have researched them all and found various issues both subjective and objective with going those alternate routes, hence my desire for native TR support. So back to the topic at hand. I pulled the oltr code from 7x svn and dropped it onto an 8x machine I had available for testing, added the requisites to sys/conf/files.i386, and make buildkernel attempts to fly. It appears the main reason that oltr was dropped at release 8 was that it had IFF_NEEDSGIANT which has been deprecated for MP Safe. Additionally, some of the functions in cpufunc.h (outbv and inbv) are no longer present in the exact same form. Outbv and inbv I can probably easily adjust, but I'm out of my league in the "ins & outs" of removing the need for giant locks. I figured it wouldn't be as simple as just moving the code :) I'll beat my head against it as time permits, thanks for any input. Best, J From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 14:02:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8E9106566B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C1D8FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3220D5C22 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:16:09 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F82EBF7.1050702@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:02:31 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> <4f82ec6b.0EU1Qc3X9OJZStzI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20354.52727.340223.760020@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <001601cd1656$97de28d0$c79a7a70$@net> In-Reply-To: <001601cd1656$97de28d0$c79a7a70$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Token Ring (really- and why) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 14:02:34 -0000 On 04/09/12 23:42, Jay West wrote: > It was written.... > ------------------- >> Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal >> easier, to just use the version of FreeBSD that corresponds to the >> historical era being re-created? > And skip feature, performance, and security improvements made since? > ------------------- > > Not in this case on the former, and the latter - agreed. > > The real historical part and focus of the exhibit isn't the FreeBSD machine. > It's a dual bay HP2000 Timeshare BASIC machine. It has been restored to > pristine cosmetic and electrical running condition (2000/Access) and that's > the focus of the exhibit. > > One neat feature of the HP2000, even though it was a dedicated basic > interpreter environment, it had the ability to submit jobs to HASP/MVS. MVS > could run the code and direct output back to files on the HP2000, output to > devices on that system, etc. It's a really neat add-on feature of the > display/project to include and demonstrate that functionality. Given that a > full blown VM/360 system isn't in the picture, we've used Hercules. One > issue is cobbling together some hardware glue to deal with the interface > between the HP and the "IBM", basically emulating a sync modem and 2780 > device on the Hercules side. That is mostly within my skillset. The other > issue is that there needs to also be some terminal interaction on the "IBM" > side, so we have a 3174 establishment controller with some 3179 terms and a > 3290 gas plasma 4-session display. The 3174 attaches to the host (Hercules) > via token ring. I had this all working perfectly with FreeBSD 7x, but when > upgrading FreeBSD we lost token ring support. I could stay on an older > version of FreeBSD, but then I am stuck with pretty old versions of Hercules > (there are problems with newer versions of Hercules compiling under older > versions of FreeBSD, some needed features are lacking in older versions of > Hercules, etc.). So now you have the gory details as to "why". Yes, there > are a few other possible ways to "skin this cat", but I have researched them > all and found various issues both subjective and objective with going those > alternate routes, hence my desire for native TR support. > > So back to the topic at hand. I pulled the oltr code from 7x svn and dropped > it onto an 8x machine I had available for testing, added the requisites to > sys/conf/files.i386, and make buildkernel attempts to fly. It appears the > main reason that oltr was dropped at release 8 was that it had > IFF_NEEDSGIANT which has been deprecated for MP Safe. Additionally, some of > the functions in cpufunc.h (outbv and inbv) are no longer present in the > exact same form. Outbv and inbv I can probably easily adjust, but I'm out of > my league in the "ins& outs" of removing the need for giant locks. I > figured it wouldn't be as simple as just moving the code :) I'll beat my > head against it as time permits, thanks for any input. I've been following this thread with a kind of bizarre fascination (or more accurately perhaps it should be the fascination of the bizarre?). Perhaps you should put those questions to the hackers@ list? Or even net@? Where is this exhibit? Is there somewhere I can follow your progress with this interesting diorama? I'd be fascinated to see this in operation :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 14:36:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A1E106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4519A8FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q39EaeQF012807; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:36:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q39EaeKK012804; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:36:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:36:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <4F82CE99.2060005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: References: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> <4F82C20F.9070904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F82CA46.7000700@bananmonarki.se> <4F82CE99.2060005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 14:36:42 -0000 On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Da Rock wrote: > On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? >> >> No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. > > Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the last > option I offered _will_ work. You need to force it to use vesa and that is > the only way. Xorg autoconfigures itself. If HAL is used, it is only used for input devices, mouse and keyboard. Intel 845G should work with the x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel driver. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 14:44:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D667106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E72B8FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E7F4E5C22 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:57:45 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F82F5B8.1000407@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:44:08 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> <4F82C20F.9070904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F82CA46.7000700@bananmonarki.se> <4F82CE99.2060005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 14:44:10 -0000 On 04/10/12 00:36, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Da Rock wrote: > >> On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? >>> >>> No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. >> >> Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the >> last option I offered _will_ work. You need to force it to use vesa >> and that is the only way. > > Xorg autoconfigures itself. If HAL is used, it is only used for input > devices, mouse and keyboard. > > Intel 845G should work with the x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel driver. Should, but not always. At least vesa will get it going for the moment until a permanent solution arrives. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 15:08:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6BF106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 15:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718BD8FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 15:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q39F5l8M073930; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:05:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q39F5lqV073929; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:05:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:05:47 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Tony Message-ID: <20120409150547.GA73820@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 15:08:23 -0000 On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:40:12PM +0200, Tony wrote: > Hello! > > As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate > identity. Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have a > design that reflects this. A design that is so neutral and stripped of any > unnecessary details that the user's attention is directed straight on to > the content as opposed to how the content looks. A design that you can look > at over and over without getting annoyed. > Whereas there are a few small things I could see improved in the FreeBSD website, generally, it is functional and does what it is supposed to do; provide information about FreeBSD for people looking for information. It is not there to be wallpaper for someones desktop. > The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more > forced than well thought out. First you have the shiny Satanic 3D-lookalike > logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) that might look cool > the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like "what the > hell *is* that thing anyway"? (ref: Tres > Logos Don't see anything useful there. As far as the sextoy logo, can't say that I like it, but Where is anything better? > ) > > Then you have a surrounding layout trying to cater to that logo, but fails > miserably as it was made by programmers as opposed to people with an actual > education in design . There is no natural > flow and the whole thing just > comes off as corny - > and this makes us all look bad. I also hear > PostgreSQLis planning to sue FreeBSD for > stealing its design. The FreeBSD site heirarchy of information leading to further information is a bit ragged in places, but show us something better. The Royal Academy front page is not too bad of a website home page, but isn't really appropriate to FreeBSD. FreeBSD is a serious working project, not some bling bling sales site. > > I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on > Helvetica. > No devil logo, no bells and whistles, just straight forward "FreeBSD" - the > world's best operating system. So simple that hardly anything it will go > out of fashion and need to be replaced, so simple that it'll remain as > current now as it will be a hundred years from now. There was nothing there. The site didn't work. > > "Perfection is achieved, not when there's nothing left to add, but when > there's nothing left to take away." I looked at the URLs that you include and saw nothing that made any sense relative to FreeBSD. The socalled 'design council' page made one of the cardinal errors in web page design by making it a fixed width beyond the browser window's size. It subverts browser reflow. I hate that. It abuses the whole sysem and makes it hard for people so hav a desktop layout the way they want/need. eg, it trashes the page. So, come up with some actually good design before you next barf all over the list. Then, maybe someone will incorporate some of the worthwhile ideas. ////jerry > > Tony > http://siegelgale.com/ > http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 15:51:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658D0106566B; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 15:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from airosovicz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCBC8FC16; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 15:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwc18 with SMTP id wc18so7879124obb.13 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:51:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LUpNmSH4M5DwbkDdGl8AqqkRcFdZ1EVFJtdmiVuaidE=; b=pztK2p+tfzYbLl8zfT/o9mG0JC9Up2HPOVo9JpfOlzdEgiVjh6GlWt7vU8IoFeo24C THQxFnIUAtj0z+KXl1z9qaGefal1UO1qzQ7ZY75LsuDtopMxVQUzos8rKKItzpfJp7+s zKvTVx6YyXczd8aJ0SUgBjc4eBTfiYrq+/4LswDOpl8H9aJ3JBkepVecQZP4Xwa68Jwt StzMKJojcV6dRG3o+NwDlWqoqwZoaQ3vpUTyabQuB1c1gHrTn5yGzrp8bVW8t/Zv49s0 O9CIrHXeJ+UAMCG/UewoUu3xf2MoHG5j4wSTPgSp+PhYmMmclracu2L731KjEU95XRN4 QeGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.139.42 with SMTP id qv10mr11068079obb.71.1333986662472; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.37.225 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:51:02 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?QWlyb3NvzrJpY3ogZmIu?= To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Odhiambo Washington , Matthew Seaman , Da Rock Subject: 9.0 - Mount to root.. Sorted.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 15:51:03 -0000 Hi all, As Warren Block mentioned: If there are no ada devices in /dev at all, I'd guess too much has been > removed from the custom kernel. > So I've checked my custom kernel config (based on GENERIC) & indeed made some changes to the [S]ATA disk section after which I rebuilt & installed the kernel again.. The difference now with previous was that I *was* able to boot in single-user mode, mount, label my disk with tunefs, update my /etc/fstab accordingly & managed to install the world as a final step to my upgrade.. Problem solved, many thanx for all the assistance.. Regards, E. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 16:02:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF9F106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550D88FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaaf13 with SMTP id f13so1188526eaa.13 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=pgq9/xwtXzLJsPrT1dgvuWSY4izuEPVjJet7x3IywxU=; b=FgFv16rMUUf1D2I7pYQtKj1aIlfn8u0wqSB2qQAm4JuQyQO/iOJhUZXBom5RplAZVV 72xQhYtAYk/qyZlyMSNCcGS0u6pUwjLANt1Te6t0A1y5Gw7TDQN56Qwxd1Rko+2gshNI D35GZNSQ7E4kTKgVcaAZ78GeDMc8Du9hNXhtw42fxCeWoeJ+7KF6IACp3GqewAFZWs7R 5hT4xFy30aKHurwXpGnnE/IrQKVhQxpf9Oq7nwJtsnc7nGQ0tiuACLHAplPObIAinUL8 6/e/Gk90ZvPhv+kMAhcjphK681bNNiSOO/cvAwqpyOO9Nh2/ZjZHbgzZ2KS9mQW33xmH drXQ== Received: by 10.213.26.69 with SMTP id d5mr479673ebc.61.1333987330226; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.15.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:01:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:01:29 +0300 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?QWlyb3NvzrJpY3ogZmIu?= Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0015174bdceaf3f9db04bd412077 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 - Mount to root.. Sorted.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:02:11 -0000 --0015174bdceaf3f9db04bd412077 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 18:51, Airoso=CE=B2icz fb. wr= ote: > Hi all, > > As Warren Block mentioned: > > If there are no ada devices in /dev at all, I'd guess too much has been >> removed from the custom kernel. >> > > So I've checked my custom kernel config (based on GENERIC) & indeed made > some changes to the [S]ATA disk section after which I rebuilt & installed > the kernel again.. The difference now with previous was that I *was* able > to boot in single-user mode, mount, label my disk with tunefs, update my > /etc/fstab accordingly & managed to install the world as a final step to = my > upgrade.. > > Problem solved, many thanx for all the assistance.. > > Regards, > E. > Good to know, but next time you shouldn't go overboard with customizing the kernel configuration file:-) --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. --0015174bdceaf3f9db04bd412077-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 16:07:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F75106566B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6148FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394FC14F85 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1B18B14F84; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:07:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p57BDE038.dip.t-dialin.net [87.189.224.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4013914F82 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:07:30 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: Message-ID: <20120409180730.08dfe9bb@dijkstra.cruwe.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: zpool creation on geli failed with FreeBSD-9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:07:35 -0000 I was trying to install FreeBSD 9.0 using a geli encrypted disk and ZFS on my ThinkPad R500 this weekend. I failed. Having sucessfully initialized the geli part and having attached the provider, my attempt to create a zpool on the geli section thus $> zpool create ntank /dev/ada0p2.eli failed with the message Cannot create 'ntank': invalid argument for this pool operation. I could not convince the system to create the zpool on the geli part, so I gave up and created the zpool on the unencrypted partition instead to have a working machine for the week. I would, however, like to have my data on an encrypted partition though. Has anyone witnessed and resolved this issue or does anyone have other ideas? Thanks for your help, cheers, -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2h From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 16:55:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E1A1065672 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abletony84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606D18FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 16:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so3402335vbm.13 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fooSRBW50FLfwYHfF6RWeKuFW/SYubF6ILg1cd2nDHo=; b=PkB9IIUII13IAIy6BFv7fBM89M5mfXeV8H+xGXX123hCKFKYQWrt+g59neaFGgr+Cs QeE4YGKY4ERMO/0K4a/c0k5KP+hQBs33eONPldwKbzqu5FHG8/dKTUuOntiFpa4NuNwB kPHTq2Yk2gYygq+0HGC8rR+EMOpB9b8O+6jR6ebp3eMIxmvEfIFA9eyaBB44/hG2Im7W aLsmv+aQMkL5hE5hd2Iw+nvgcw8+NVEgg6INfVqW1sNVdzSvH/T4paSdSkyiDMPd1BZx XwwB9n244eKJvo4ypKVAHCF9hnLq7C8TCfM+BxJRvdpJ/tnrFQXGVcLcJl3QhE0sBzho fiXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.140.196 with SMTP id j4mr4333564vcu.22.1333990507883; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.108.66 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120409150547.GA73820@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20120409150547.GA73820@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:55:07 +0200 Message-ID: From: Tony To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:55:14 -0000 Hi all! Thanks everyone for all the feedback - it has been most helpful! Just to clarify, Siegel+Gale and the UK Design Council are just the places where I work. I should have taken them out of my signature to avoid confusion, my bad. I will start work on a major Rails-basedredesign for FreeBSD. I really liked Mikkel's suggestion of going back to the old designand take it from there, so that's what I will be doing. It might take a couple of months though. Tony http://siegelgale.com/ http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 02:40:12PM +0200, Tony wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate > > identity. Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have > a > > design that reflects this. A design that is so neutral and stripped of > any > > unnecessary details that the user's attention is directed straight on to > > the content as opposed to how the content looks. A design that you can > look > > at over and over without getting annoyed. > > > > Whereas there are a few small things I could see improved in the > FreeBSD website, generally, it is functional and does what it is > supposed to do; provide information about FreeBSD for people looking > for information. It is not there to be wallpaper for someones desktop. > > > The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more > > forced than well thought out. First you have the shiny Satanic > 3D-lookalike > > logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) that might look > cool > > the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like "what the > > hell *is* that thing anyway"? (ref: Tres > > Logos< > http://www.amazon.com/Tres-Logos-Robert-Klanten/dp/3899552679/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332777820&sr=8-1 > > > > Don't see anything useful there. > As far as the sextoy logo, can't say that I like it, but Where is > anything better? > > > ) > > > > Then you have a surrounding layout trying to cater to that logo, but > fails > > miserably as it was made by programmers as opposed to people with an > actual > > education in design . There is no > natural > > flow and the whole thing > just > > comes off as corny > - > > and this makes us all look bad. I also hear > > PostgreSQLis planning to sue FreeBSD for > > stealing its design. > > The FreeBSD site heirarchy of information leading to further information > is a bit ragged in places, but show us something better. The Royal Academy > front page is not too bad of a website home page, but isn't really > appropriate to FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD is a serious working project, not some bling bling sales site. > > > > > I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on > > Helvetica. > > No devil logo, no bells and whistles, just straight forward "FreeBSD" - > the > > world's best operating system. So simple that hardly anything it will go > > out of fashion and need to be replaced, so simple that it'll remain as > > current now as it will be a hundred years from now. > > There was nothing there. The site didn't work. > > > > > "Perfection is achieved, not when there's nothing left to add, but when > > there's nothing left to take away." > > I looked at the URLs that you include and saw nothing that made > any sense relative to FreeBSD. > > The socalled 'design council' page made one of the cardinal errors > in web page design by making it a fixed width beyond the browser > window's size. It subverts browser reflow. I hate that. It > abuses the whole sysem and makes it hard for people so hav a desktop > layout the way they want/need. eg, it trashes the page. > > So, come up with some actually good design before you next barf > all over the list. Then, maybe someone will incorporate some > of the worthwhile ideas. > > ////jerry > > > > > Tony > > http://siegelgale.com/ > > http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 17:07:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4D9106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C236A8FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.174.197.73] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SHI3R-00048G-2v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:07:01 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q39H70sj004636 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:07:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id q39H6xhb004635 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:06:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:06:59 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120409170659.GA4608@tinyCurrent> References: <20110725151047.GA8701@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20110725151047.GA8701@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.197.73 Subject: Re: keyboard latency from time to time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:07:08 -0000 El día Monday, July 25, 2011 a las 05:10:47PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > Hello, > > I run a 9-CURRENT from end of October on an Acer D250 laptop; which in > general runs very fine; from time to time (say once a month) I encounter > the following situation within KDE3 or X11: > > from a moment to another (can't say what action triggers this) the > keyboard stops working; there are just no keyevents delivered on short > press to any window; I've checked it with xev(1); mouse is working fine and I can > close the windows or the whole session of KDE, of course loosing my > connections or the content of files I'm editing in that moment; > > the keyevent is only delivered when you press the key for around half > second, or so, and after this also the normal key re-iteration is > produced; its even hard to catch only one keyevent and not twice or more; > this is true for all keys, including Ctrl and Backspace, ... > > after restarting X11 and KDE it is fine again; Hello, Months later, in some other issue, I learned about the feature of KDE "slow keys" and what I have described is exactly the same behaviour and I can now even reproduce this with just pressing and holding down the Shift-key for around 8 secs; when it happens one must go to the KDE Control Center and activate 'slow keys' (yes, they are not shown as activated in this moment) and deactivate 'slow keys' again, and all is fine. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11 | UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2 | FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 17:07:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D009106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10DA8FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.132.100.218] (helo=wombat.mininet) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1SHI0E-0005AU-1S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:03:42 +0200 X-Mailer: emacs 23.3.1 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 8.1.1 under 23.3.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20355.5705.678848.307759@wombat.mininet> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:03:05 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de X-Df-Sender: NDcyNTgy Subject: cups slow when printing from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:07:14 -0000 Hi all, I'm struggling with a speed issue when trying to print stuff from firefox (10.0.2,1). I've set up cups (meta package 1.5.2) on my box which uses a Lexmark E360dn printer via ethernet. The printer has a postscript emulation which is set as the default (as opposed to PCL). I've used a PPD file from openprinting.org which claims that the printer is 100% supported. Printing works fine in general with all sorts of text and images, including PDF and LibreOffice and whatnot. However, trying to print maps from maps.google.de sends one CPU to 100% for a couple of minutes. Printing the same map from a Debian box takes a couple of seconds. I can print the map to a file, and print that file with lpr which also takes just a few seconds. While printing from firefox directly, I noticed a process gsc owned by cups which causes most of the CPU load. I take this as an indication that the postscript output from firefox is incorrectly rasterized on my box, instead of sending the postscript data directly to the printer. I did not make any changes to the default config files except for adding the printer through the localhost:631 interface. Is there anything else that I need to configure, either on the firefox or the cups end, to make printing maps faster? regards Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 17:22:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C663A106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C048FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:22:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=ggw08UKK8pFO5ow9Rca9th4z9Ts5VXh3KEIFs2M82ps=; b=EVhjLI7JGq4sriTiEoiLzvJrkd3eze09tA57vfx6LALgYLyAJ3h4X4ohsyHa4cE8+wGzt/C0BgPkqBYniTFzS6Nz5/Vs7aQbUcqZa1dv3Gyh+YKKF5WytEQb+wBj5wvr; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SHII2-00073r-By for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:22:07 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1333992120-23734-23733/5/6; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:22:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120409150547.GA73820@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:22:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:22:07 -0000 On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:55:07 -0500, Tony wrote: > I will start work on a major Rails-based redesign I'm praying this is a troll. Ruby as a language is so broken, and anyone who has tried to host a Ruby project knows my pain. The only thing you could have said that would set off my troll senses even more is if you suggested PHP on Trax which I think is an attempt at satire. Python on Planes is the future, maaaan. ~Disgruntled Sysadmin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 18:31:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5684D1065673 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E588FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.85]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F6EF16B4CD; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:58:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:58:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: Tony In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:31:24 -0000 On Sun, 8 Apr 2012, Tony wrote: > Satanic 3D-lookalike logo Satanic logo complaints: Hallmark of retarded trolls -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 18:37:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C9B106564A; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward16.mail.yandex.net (forward16.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047EE8FC15; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (smtp16.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.16]) by forward16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5ECF6D213C7; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:37:00 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1333996620; bh=+4rYyKhgm4de5DZgv44zkx576Wjgfyabaypv5JRtWi4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LzfXq0IDLBxWm2bsTd2bfdSXwxfi2xTatQsVOBGXUu4RxihJ6mHoPaz2rITZ65UaA sxlIXwygkbfymJrQD6I2JjYoFK+uihiJH91cPsjR/+95XuFbWR1tD4rQ4hZALSpq0k uY8oA5om55bxmzKa1F1C4/9oqBx5XQe1RL9WB0eM= Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 40A8F6A0020; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:37:00 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [176.8.82.56]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id au3mLaFr-ax3mxtI5; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:36:59 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1333996620; bh=+4rYyKhgm4de5DZgv44zkx576Wjgfyabaypv5JRtWi4=; h=Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:Organization:X-Priority:Message-ID:To: Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QzWVQBVIhD9sBQXlGyDC3I9k+7Jb7eR4HzMLNbdFlRdaYvAhhBqlNhCL2S0XCyR2f EMwn6VPnQanh5I+ecSL+MdCC97Z7R6EyfEEJNU8pMpAtHpzleFuq5ruQMyYYX1etWc xer+IbyrCiRFUMFVmfUKL88Odd+6osCSCYqn3nd4= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:36:54 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:37:02 -0000 Hi. Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG Apr 9 20:09:22 kernel: running manually: # fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e ** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on /tmp ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) Server reboot two or three time per day # uname -a FreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881: Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 adm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 amd64 before this it works about month without problems /var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any messages before crash. Can any help to fix problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 18:43:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DCC106566B; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from EXFESMQ03.datapipe-corp.net (exfesmq03.datapipe.com [64.27.120.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52148FC14; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nat.myhome (192.168.128.103) by EXFESMQ03.datapipe-corp.net (192.168.128.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 14:42:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:43:08 -0500 From: "Paul A. Procacci" To: ??????? ??????? Message-ID: <20120409184308.GX49374@nat.myhome> References: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Originating-IP: [192.168.128.103] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:43:58 -0000 Nothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /var/crash would indi= cate to me some sort of hardware related problem. Have you tested your hardware lately and know that it is in operational ord= er? ~Paul On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??????? ??????? wrote: > Hi. > > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN F= AST FSCK > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MAN= UALLY. > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG > Apr 9 20:09:22 kernel: > > running manually: > # fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e > ** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) > ** Last Mounted on /tmp > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames > ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity > ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts > ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups > 99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% fragmentatio= n) > > > Server reboot two or three time per day > # uname -a > FreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881: Fri Feb 24= 17:07:48 UTC 2012 adm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 amd64 > > before this it works about month without problems > > /var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any messages before = crash. > Can any help to fix problem? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ________________________________ This message may contain confidential or privileged information. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 18:57:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492AE106566B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69D78FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q39Iwhh6090131; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:58:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201204091858.q39Iwhh6090131@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: abletony84@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:57:41 -0000 Tony wrote: > > Hi all! > > Thanks everyone for all the feedback - it has been most helpful! > > Just to clarify, Siegel+Gale and the UK Design Council are just the places > where I work. I should have taken them out of my signature to avoid > confusion, my bad. > > I will start work on a major > Rails-basedredesign for > FreeBSD. I really liked Mikkel's suggestion of going back to the > old designand > take it from there, so that's what I will be doing. It might take a > couple of months though. > Whatever you do, make sure: 1) everything works _without_ javascript or relying on color distinctions or 'background images' -- a fair number of people force 'use my colors' rather than letting the server choose. (browsing multiple web-sites is a *lot* less painful on the eyes, when they _all_ display in color combinations *I* find pleasing. *GRIN* ) 2) Make sure *every* '' tag has a "meaningful" "alt=' field. (if it is just a filler/spacer image, _still_ put an 'alt=" "' field on it. This explicitly declares that the image has 'no content') 3) Make sure everything passes the validator at http://validator.w3.org with -zero- complaints. 4) Make sure everything 'works' in 'lynx', the text-only browser. see / 5) Make sure everything is usable in Firefox, with ALL SCRIPTING DISABLED, *and* then go to 'Tools->Options', the 'Content' tab, change the font size to say, 64 pt; Also click the 'colors' button and *UN-CHECK* the 'allow pages to chose their own colors' box, click 'ok' twice to dismiss the two pop-up windows, and make sure everything displays OK. 6) Try resizing the browser panel -- wide (side-to-side) and short (top- to-bottom), and narrow (side-to-side) and tall (top-to-bottom). Does it work _acceptably_ in a 640x480 window? (why not? There are users out there with VGA-only displays.) *IDEALLY* there should be no need for horizontal scrolling unless the window is -very- narrow (circa 15% of screen width or less). *IDEALLY* the content should expand to fill whatever width there is available (I have a display 1920 pixels wide, the current webpage =refuses= to use more than about 1/2 of it. Get this right, and you show you understand that HTML is -not- a 'page layout' language, That one is merely providing 'hints' for the browser to 'do with as it sees fit'. Web layout *is* a very different discipline from layout for the printed page. Once you have -that- 100% functional with no errors, -then-, and *only* *then* is is appropriate to add *optional* (for the user) 'enhancements' in addition to the basic functionality. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 19:02:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF00106564A; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward5.mail.yandex.net (forward5.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF368FC1A; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.mail.yandex.net (smtp2.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.102]) by forward5.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 9C6D71201B62; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:02:41 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1333998161; bh=rv/48MjBgWGt8ohUGK+T7JmKfrrmmpGjDercBumoJ+0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=s3Y1M5RBlGW86Zfy4zdLSKZCZgRmLxlqPeBfRys9e3TWvYzCPzZc7azlWoKWp1xrf RLkQlfI7hRo2zgGBHTHf+TYZ0vMVx9Y7PMc50VuDIZFuRZnoD4su93n9JUnYsx7D5M RtPFbdpG+6tSlvjicr+APFp5Y/FkWuxLM/Co65qo= Received: from smtp2.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7A0AEE20364; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:02:41 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [176.8.82.56]) by smtp2.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 2baqWfUQ-2eaSI9kb; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:02:40 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1333998161; bh=rv/48MjBgWGt8ohUGK+T7JmKfrrmmpGjDercBumoJ+0=; h=Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:Organization:X-Priority:Message-ID:To: CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=j7Lo7K9izRkaNhYmkbi7UgIJSol4JICoXx8qUlwJm/EDHcY6c9EX78rd+GCYkuHTR moHtqq6VzdSGdZ/ki6yrz4qLXo7ZDRYalhLurTaWvVlPTvcl7GaKcoctamymSrwIUG OMBvqo24UfKlgrVLr9gC+AL8mvoMagW9wS+jVdHc= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:02:36 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <544633848.20120409220236@yandex.ru> To: "Paul A. Procacci" In-Reply-To: <20120409184308.GX49374@nat.myhome> References: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> <20120409184308.GX49374@nat.myhome> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:02:44 -0000 Yes, I have tested. and on this hardware on this OS it works from Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 but last two days: reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 19:50 reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 18:30 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 20:55 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 20:00 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 19:49 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 17:43 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 10:58 reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 21:13 reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 16:37 reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 16:07 I remembered. One thing changed. I add vlans to igb2, but no traffic flow on that devices yet. Before this I have use: igb0, igb1, igb3 igb0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet igb1@pci0:1:0:1: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet igb2@pci0:1:0:2: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet igb3@pci0:1:0:3: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet ifconfig_vlan100="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 100 vlandev igb2" #nALL ifconfig_vlan101="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 101 vlandev igb2" #n2 p24 ifconfig_vlan102="inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 102 vlandev igb2" #n1 p23 ifconfig_vlan103="inet 192.168.3.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 103 vlandev igb2" #n3 p22 ifconfig_vlan104="inet 192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 104 vlandev igb2" #n7,9 p21 ifconfig_vlan105="inet 192.168.5.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 105 vlandev igb2" #n11 p20 ifconfig_vlan106="inet 192.168.6.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 106 vlandev igb2" #n13 p19 ifconfig_vlan107="inet 192.168.7.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 107 vlandev igb2" #n223 p18 ifconfig_vlan108="inet 192.168.8.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 108 vlandev igb2" #n225 p17 ifconfig_vlan109="inet 192.168.9.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 109 vlandev igb2" #n221 p16 ifconfig_vlan110="inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 110 vlandev igb2" #n229 p15 ifconfig_vlan111="inet 192.168.11.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 111 vlandev igb2" #n233 p14 ifconfig_vlan112="inet 192.168.12.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 112 vlandev igb2" #n231 p13 ifconfig_vlan113="inet 192.168.13.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 113 vlandev igb2" #n237 p12 ifconfig_vlan114="inet 192.168.14.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 114 vlandev igb2" #n424 p11 ifconfig_vlan115="inet 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 115 vlandev igb2" # PAP> Nothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /var/crash PAP> would indicate to me some sort of hardware related problem. PAP> Have you tested your hardware lately and know that it is in operational order? PAP> ~Paul PAP> On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??????? ??????? wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG >> Apr 9 20:09:22 kernel: >> >> running manually: >> # fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e >> ** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) >> ** Last Mounted on /tmp >> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames >> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity >> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts >> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >> 99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) >> >> >> Server reboot two or three time per day >> # uname -a >> FreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881: Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 adm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 amd64 >> >> before this it works about month without problems >> >> /var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any messages before crash. >> Can any help to fix problem? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 19:17:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B64D106566C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE818FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 19:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5941E813; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:17:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q39JHXA4005747; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:17:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:17:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <20120409211733.a7937a0b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201204091858.q39Iwhh6090131@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201204091858.q39Iwhh6090131@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: abletony84@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:17:38 -0000 Allow me a few additions: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:58:43 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: > 2) Make sure *every* '' tag has a "meaningful" "alt=' field. (if it > is just a filler/spacer image, _still_ put an 'alt=" "' field on it. > This explicitly declares that the image has 'no content') And also note the longdesc= parameter to img. It should be used to give a meaningful (!) description of an image's content. > 6) Try resizing the browser panel -- wide (side-to-side) and short (top- > to-bottom), and narrow (side-to-side) and tall (top-to-bottom). > Does it work _acceptably_ in a 640x480 window? (why not? There are > users out there with VGA-only displays.) Also note that following this "auto-resize" approach enables a web page to be used in all its beauty on mobile devices, such as tablets and smartphones. If done right, no separate version is needed there. > *IDEALLY* the content should expand to fill whatever width there is > available (I have a display 1920 pixels wide, the current webpage > =refuses= to use more than about 1/2 of it. Excellent idea for improving. Many web pages could learn from that simple idea. The habit of being "optimized for 1024x768" is very annoying, especially if you _have_ a large display where you arrange non-fullscreen windows on. Pages that fail to accomodate to the window's size are very annoying. In fact, they are the majority. > Get this right, and you show you understand that HTML is -not- > a 'page layout' language, That one is merely providing 'hints' > for the browser to 'do with as it sees fit'. Web layout *is* > a very different discipline from layout for the printed page. Many web developers seem to be unable to see HTML as a markup language that defines structure (indead of layout). If you want to have pixel-precise 1:1 reproduction, use PDF. With HTML5 (but also applies to HTML4), it's easy to use the HTML tags to define what text _is_ instead of what it should look like. A usable approach is to use CSS for styling, and HTML for content-oriented structural description. That way, from the HTML content one can determine what's a heading, what's a paragraph, what's an address - instead of thinking in terms like "this is in bold text" or "this is underlined text with 18px in 'Comic Sans'". The idea of "semantic browsing" can be utilized. > Once you have -that- 100% functional with no errors, -then-, and *only* > *then* is is appropriate to add *optional* (for the user) 'enhancements' > in addition to the basic functionality. I think there _is_ potential to improve the FreeBSD website, in layout, content and structure. But it should be done carefully so it doesn't break anytime soon (such as "modern" web pages do when a new version of some arbitrary extension is out or when the underlying implementation language breaks things due to updates). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 21:39:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCF91065673; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from egrosbein@rdtc.ru) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C843E8FC08; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q39LdqTE069396; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:39:52 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from egrosbein@rdtc.ru) Message-ID: <4F835728.5030809@rdtc.ru> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:39:52 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110112 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7_=E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA?= References: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:39:56 -0000 10.04.2012 01:36, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ ÐÉÛÅÔ: > Hi. > > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG > Apr 9 20:09:22 kernel: > > running manually: > # fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e > ** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) You cannot run fsck on mounted filesystem, unmount it first. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 22:09:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565371065670 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75228FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC0F75C22 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:23:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F835E16.3060502@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:09:26 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> <20120409184308.GX49374@nat.myhome> <544633848.20120409220236@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <544633848.20120409220236@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:09:28 -0000 On 04/10/12 05:02, Êîíüêîâ Åâãåíèé wrote: > Yes, I have tested. > and on this hardware on this OS it works from Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 > but last two days: > reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 19:50 > reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 18:30 > reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 20:55 > reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 20:00 > reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 19:49 > reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 17:43 > reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 10:58 > reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 21:13 > reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 16:37 > reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 16:07 > > I remembered. One thing changed. > I add vlans to igb2, but no traffic flow on that devices yet. Perhaps you should test removing the vlans and see if things improve? > > Before this I have use: igb0, igb1, igb3 > igb0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > igb1@pci0:1:0:1: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > igb2@pci0:1:0:2: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > igb3@pci0:1:0:3: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > ifconfig_vlan100="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 100 vlandev igb2" #nALL > ifconfig_vlan101="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 101 vlandev igb2" #n2 p24 > ifconfig_vlan102="inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 102 vlandev igb2" #n1 p23 > ifconfig_vlan103="inet 192.168.3.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 103 vlandev igb2" #n3 p22 > ifconfig_vlan104="inet 192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 104 vlandev igb2" #n7,9 p21 > ifconfig_vlan105="inet 192.168.5.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 105 vlandev igb2" #n11 p20 > ifconfig_vlan106="inet 192.168.6.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 106 vlandev igb2" #n13 p19 > ifconfig_vlan107="inet 192.168.7.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 107 vlandev igb2" #n223 p18 > ifconfig_vlan108="inet 192.168.8.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 108 vlandev igb2" #n225 p17 > ifconfig_vlan109="inet 192.168.9.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 109 vlandev igb2" #n221 p16 > ifconfig_vlan110="inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 110 vlandev igb2" #n229 p15 > ifconfig_vlan111="inet 192.168.11.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 111 vlandev igb2" #n233 p14 > ifconfig_vlan112="inet 192.168.12.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 112 vlandev igb2" #n231 p13 > ifconfig_vlan113="inet 192.168.13.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 113 vlandev igb2" #n237 p12 > ifconfig_vlan114="inet 192.168.14.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 114 vlandev igb2" #n424 p11 > ifconfig_vlan115="inet 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 115 vlandev igb2" # > > > > PAP> Nothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /var/crash > PAP> would indicate to me some sort of hardware related problem. > PAP> Have you tested your hardware lately and know that it is in operational order? > > PAP> ~Paul > > PAP> On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??????? ??????? wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG >>> Apr 9 20:09:22 kernel: >>> >>> running manually: >>> # fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e >>> ** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) >>> ** Last Mounted on /tmp >>> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >>> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames >>> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity >>> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts >>> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >>> 99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) >>> >>> >>> Server reboot two or three time per day >>> # uname -a >>> FreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881: Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 adm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 amd64 >>> >>> before this it works about month without problems >>> >>> /var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any messages before crash. >>> Can any help to fix problem? > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 22:13:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB6C10656A3 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C608FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5574A5C22 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:27:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F835F10.4000207@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:13:36 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120409180730.08dfe9bb@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20120409180730.08dfe9bb@dijkstra.cruwe.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: zpool creation on geli failed with FreeBSD-9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:13:38 -0000 On 04/10/12 02:07, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > I was trying to install FreeBSD 9.0 using a geli encrypted disk and > ZFS on my ThinkPad R500 this weekend. I failed. > > Having sucessfully initialized the geli part and having attached the > provider, my attempt to create a zpool on the geli section thus > > $> zpool create ntank /dev/ada0p2.eli > > failed with the message > > Cannot create 'ntank': invalid argument for this pool operation. > > I could not convince the system to create the zpool on the geli part, so > I gave up and created the zpool on the unencrypted partition instead to > have a working machine for the week. I would, however, like to have my > data on an encrypted partition though. Has anyone witnessed and resolved > this issue or does anyone have other ideas? Someone using ZFS will be able to verify this, but from my understanding ZFS runs on the hardware and you can *possibly* put geli on top of ZFS. You can put geom on ZFS but not the other way around. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 23:48:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0B5106564A for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (mailhost.ssr.com [199.4.235.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66CAD8FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29144 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2012 23:41:41 -0000 Received: from pool-72-89-112-74.nycmny.east.verizon.net (HELO irelay.ssr.com) (sdb@72.89.112.74) by 199.4.235.5 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2012 23:41:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 2344 invoked by uid 103); 9 Apr 2012 23:25:19 -0000 Date: 9 Apr 2012 23:25:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20120409232519.2343.qmail@irelay.ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Difficulties accessing optical drive from guest OS in VBox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:48:19 -0000 Hi, Not sure if this should be here orin freebsd-emulation, but thought it worth a try: Freebsd 9.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) VBoxMange --version: 4.1.10_OSEr76795 Installed from Ports. Window 7 as guest. I can't access the host optical drive from the guest OS. I was able to install it by dd'ing the install DVD to the harddrive, and VBox used that beautifully. It all works quite well, but whenever I try to use the actual optical drive, I get a 'permissions error': "Unable to mount the CD/DVD Host Drive HL-DT-STDVDRAM GH24LS50 DVDRAM GH24LS50 (cd0) on the machjine Windows_7_64bit. Would you like to force mounting of this medium?" "Could not mount the media/drive '/dev/cd0'" And the Details: "Interface: IConsole {1968b7d3-e3bf-4ceb-99e0-cb7c913317bb} Callee: IMachine {5eaa9319-62fc-4b0a-843c-0cb1940f8a91}" Incidentally, inspite of the message, there is no "force mount" option given, only 'cancel' and 'force unmount'. I've followed the handbook and Wiki for the DVD/CD access, I'm in the operator group, atapicam is loaded, hald is enabled and running and the permissions for cd0, xpt0 and pass0 are all 0660. I've also tried adding CD0 in the graphical interface before I start the VM. Bizarrely, this caused VBox to try to boot from the DVD (even though that is unchecked in the boot options). The only other thing I've tried is to disable the automounting of media with Gnome, in case that was interfering. No luck. So, anyone have any ideas? They would be most appreciated. Thanks for your time, Scott -- sdb@ssr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 03:28:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DDE106566C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6CC8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.191.40.153) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:28:29 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:27:24 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Jorge Biquez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> Cc: Subject: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:28:23 -0000 Hello all. I am sorry if this is kind OFF Topic. I am looking for help from more experienced people in these areas. Please let me know if this question should be moved to FREEBSD-CHAT list. As I have mentioned before I am helping a school , non profit with their IT issues. As always there are some "experts" that controls everything and do not let you change anything because is their kingdom. Anyway, there we have Internet service from a cable company and they have some cisco routers to receive the access and from there some Cisco Switches. In the classrooms we have very old PCs running XP. In some of my classes I am using Freebsd and Ubuntu running on a USB. So each student have one USB and they work that way booting from their 4GB USB stick. (it is slow but it has worked until now). One of the managers asked me for help to block some web sites were some students in the other lab and people that helps there waste bandwithd seeing videos, movies (youtube, cuevana, serieid, etc) and spend lot of time on facebook also. Our bandwidth is only 4Mb and you understand that with a few that are seeing movies and videos the rest of us can not work at all. Thing is that "other manager" (you know how those things are sometimes) do not want us to do that since his "guru" and expert is the one that controls all the Network. So the best we could get until now is that we can do "all we can" without touching the Cisco routers and until now not administrative password for change anything on the PCs (that could change one we prove that we can have the solution and show it to the board of people that runs the place). The Internet provider gives the DNS servers to use and one of the routers gives the DHCP service. First thing I thought was to change the DNS servers and use the one from my small office (running Freebsd 7.3) using Bind there and simply block there pointing the sites to nothing in the Apache configuration. It does not work. Once changed the DNS values the PC does not resolve anything. It was a quick test but that does not work. Not sure if Internet provider is blocking in some way that we can not use other DNS server but theirs. Other solution I was thinking while coming home was to convert one machine there to a freebsd server and use it as a router (if they let me) so that way I can control from there and do filtering. Issue is that maybe they do not let me but connect the server as an extra machine without replacing the main router so in that case I would have 2 DHCP servers doing the same service in the same lan and could be conflicts I guess. Another solution a friend suggested was to buy one small router (from my money for sure) and let that small router to receive the internet (RJ45) and from that with the small 4 port switch included to provide the internet to the switches to feed the labs , library and administrative offices. I have never use one of those and I am short on money so I would like to explore other alternatives before if possible. Finally another solution would be to install in each PC a kind of Nanny software but only if free, otherwise is not a solution (I do not know of any yet but will do searching the following hours). I know all can be solved if the "guru-expert" guy would let me have passwords from PC's, router, etc but that won't be an option since they think we would try to take the control of those services (we do not want that) so the burocracy could be a problem there. He have told them that to block is not possible (they have been working that way for years). So, in this kind of schema. Do you think FreeBSD (even linux) could be of help if we do not have access to routers, switches and can not install new software on the PCs( the ones running XP)? Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? Thanks in advance for your time and comments. Jorge Biquez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 03:36:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9DB1065672 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0334C8FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:36:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=xeruhKMR61bRxnX+sfOwVaWUlVZyqq7UjuNdG3z8K3Q=; b=c8bTAxmGTR87gN+pXbYB0xhxCPlSf52eyYD9St5TYXQa7AxK98RN6JvzqPgs/hCakSC0zBg5PP4W6e4J1j/qNJxqi6RR0eU92ZTGhGMU230bRtJcD/gKFycmI5BH50qQ; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SHRst-000AhK-A6 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:36:48 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1334029001-23734-23733/5/8; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:36:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:36:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:36:49 -0000 I've been in this position before. Transparent proxy running Squid and Dansguardian will solve most of your problems. And having a local cache will help fix your low bandwidth issue. Your skill level and networking knowledge will determine how achievable this is, but it's a great solution when you have it in place. Good luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 03:42:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD289106566B for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F38F8FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2012 23:42:39 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BKX37280; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:42:39 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2012 23:42:39 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20355.44079.41358.84650@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:42:39 -0400 To: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:42:40 -0000 Jorge Biquez writes: > Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? Yes. You do not have a technical problem. You have a management problem. Fix that, and the technical issues will be (comparatively) trivial. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 03:46:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610D1106566B for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3589C8FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.191.40.153) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9); Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:46:45 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:46:07 -0500 To: Robert Huff From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <20355.44079.41358.84650@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> <20355.44079.41358.84650@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3416874405-176955403@intranet.com.mx> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:46:19 -0000 Hello. Yes I know and we ill do our best to solve it... but if that does not work, then I still will try to solve it technically in some way if possible. Jorge Biquez At 10:42 p.m. 09/04/2012, Robert Huff wrote: >Jorge Biquez writes: > > > Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? > > Yes. > You do not have a technical problem. > You have a management problem. > Fix that, and the technical issues will be (comparatively) >trivial. > > > Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 04:22:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB291065672 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0F78FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FB925C22 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:35:36 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F83B566.8040705@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:21:58 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> <20355.44079.41358.84650@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <3416874405-176955403@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3416874405-176955403@intranet.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:22:00 -0000 On 04/10/12 13:46, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello. > > Yes I know and we ill do our best to solve it... but if that does not > work, then I still will try to solve it technically in some way if > possible. For the interim (and as a POC), setup squid and dans guardian and point the browsers to proxy using that machine. Prove your point and then explain that this can be done transparently if you had some control of the routers. All that is necessary for transparent proxy is to reroute port 80 traffic from the network to the squid server then. HTH > > Jorge Biquez > > At 10:42 p.m. 09/04/2012, Robert Huff wrote: > >> Jorge Biquez writes: >> >> > Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? >> >> Yes. >> You do not have a technical problem. >> You have a management problem. >> Fix that, and the technical issues will be (comparatively) >> trivial. >> >> >> Robert Huff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 04:37:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61489106566B for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC828FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q3A4bfHD005505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q3A4bfXj005504; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA22862; Mon, 9 Apr 12 21:33:13 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:32:09 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: feld@feld.me Message-Id: <4f841a39.HBAUBxyZNGhsjfCA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20120409150547.GA73820@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:37:45 -0000 Mark Felder wrote: > Python on Planes is the future, maaaan. Shouldn't that be spelled "plains", as in the places where the snake-containing grass grows? :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 05:29:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175F6106564A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 05:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1928FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 05:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C62B5C22 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:43:19 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F83C546.5080700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:29:42 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120409150547.GA73820@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4f841a39.HBAUBxyZNGhsjfCA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4f841a39.HBAUBxyZNGhsjfCA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 05:29:44 -0000 On 04/10/12 21:32, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Mark Felder wrote: > >> Python on Planes is the future, maaaan. > Shouldn't that be spelled "plains", as in the places where the > snake-containing grass grows? > > > > :-) > Ha! One would think so, but with ruby on rails one would think that python on plains wouldn't sound anywhere near as exciting or appear too quick. That and a shaded reference to a certain similarly titled movie with Samuel L Jackson- corny! :D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 06:30:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AFF106564A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D408FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so9281421iah.13 for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:30:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8KAXK4ooJMD8dYWkk0M3O85asgbR+ceeRf6QWR/ZIq0=; b=SXhX38HfZDlT0j5AHXKLjSmdQzdCzzAOKWiFhL2HPijOTLODaUDjfl4g0jeEH60lsH oOQJTEw261Q2S1gczxiusHjO5XWE7Z5Ga6kJMby7T7ORx9e3Lu+KZtB8ffZeAGJ83bqa fW+//2REwEzReyB9/odYDdDVGNKj+B2dyksZQf8Wi0VTermS0bCbPD8rtLRmNKgf+rSI F3w0R6hCZb5UPl2SZK7MgEac66dXkrwNkxj7/29qvFoAVhM3suX8cDMmubLmTkXn6Zl0 oiy+syFFmijiP8wA8qCN4qx+Yc1oTL0Vx5bNC0shIviiIwsZ5QXnRqG1Uj2SJPnMcLiM 5zjA== Received: by 10.50.157.227 with SMTP id wp3mr1214138igb.27.1334039413217; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-197-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cw5sm19203929igc.17.2012.04.09.23.30.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F83D372.9000407@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:30:10 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:30:14 -0000 On 4/9/2012 10:27 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > > As always there are some "experts" that controls everything > and do not let you change anything because is their kingdom. What do they control? The network infrastructure? > One of the managers asked me for help to block some web sites were some > students in the other lab and people that helps there waste bandwithd > seeing videos, movies (youtube, cuevana, serieid, etc) and spend lot of > time on facebook also. This is a network issue. You can try to detect a client using too much bandwith for a period of time, and then throttle them. Dropping tcp packets will force throttling. Blocking websites is more effective at a firewall than a desktop. > with a few that are seeing movies and videos the rest of us can not work > at all. Thing is that "other manager" (you know how those things are > sometimes) do not want us to do that since his "guru" and expert is the > one that controls all the Network. So the best we could get until now is > that we can do "all we can" without touching the Cisco routers and until > now not administrative password for change anything on the PCs (that > could change one we prove that we can have the solution and show it to > the board of people that runs the place). They're asking you to fix a network problem but refuse to give you control of the network. Ask the administrators what happens if all the software you've installed is bypassed by someone bringing in a laptop, or you switch to WiFi and everyone's on a cell phone you done control. Deal with the problem at the network. > The Internet provider gives the DNS servers to use and one of the > routers gives the DHCP service. > > First thing I thought was to change the DNS servers and use the one from > my small office (running Freebsd 7.3) using Bind there and simply block > there pointing the sites to nothing in the Apache configuration. It does > not work. Once changed the DNS values the PC does not resolve anything. > It was a quick test but that does not work. Not sure if Internet > provider is blocking in some way that we can not use other DNS server > but theirs. Google is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, easy enough to remember, and circumvent. > Other solution I was thinking while coming home was to convert one > machine there to a freebsd server and use it as a router (if they let > me) so that way I can control from there and do filtering. Issue is that > maybe they do not let me but connect the server as an extra machine > without replacing the main router so in that case I would have 2 DHCP > servers doing the same service in the same lan and could be conflicts I > guess. That's affecting the network and causing a mess for no good reason. > Another solution a friend suggested was to buy one small router (from my > money for sure) and let that small router to receive the internet (RJ45) > and from that with the small 4 port switch included to provide the > internet to the switches to feed the labs , library and administrative > offices. I have never use one of those and I am short on money so I > would like to explore other alternatives before if possible. Adding a router won't help for the real problem. > Finally another solution would be to install in each PC a kind of Nanny > software but only if free, otherwise is not a solution (I do not know of > any yet but will do searching the following hours). And then you have to trust the software. Some software will ban health information, such as breast cancer, but because of so many porn websites created so fast they can still allow porn. In any case, it's just a firewall. > I know all can be solved if the "guru-expert" guy would let me have > passwords from PC's, router, etc but that won't be an option since they > think we would try to take the control of those services (we do not want > that) so the burocracy could be a problem there. He have told them that > to block is not possible (they have been working that way for years). The block is possible, but it's a network issue, the other guy. Either he does it, or you take over the network. The more centralized and built into the network it is, the more effective it is. > So, in this kind of schema. Do you think FreeBSD (even linux) could be > of help if we do not have access to routers, switches and can not > install new software on the PCs( the ones running XP)? No. You lack the network control to control student's computer use. > Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? > > Thanks in advance for your time and comments. > > Jorge Biquez > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 06:32:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2171065672 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E806B8FC1E for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F631E46A; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:32:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3A6WUwW001987; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:32:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:32:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Da Rock Message-Id: <20120410083230.36fe18c0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F83C546.5080700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20120409150547.GA73820@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4f841a39.HBAUBxyZNGhsjfCA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4F83C546.5080700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:32:39 -0000 On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:29:42 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On 04/10/12 21:32, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Mark Felder wrote: > > > >> Python on Planes is the future, maaaan. > > Shouldn't that be spelled "plains", as in the places where the > > snake-containing grass grows? > > > > > > > > :-) > > > Ha! One would think so, but with ruby on rails one would think that > python on plains wouldn't sound anywhere near as exciting or appear too > quick. That and a shaded reference to a certain similarly titled movie > with Samuel L Jackson- corny! :D Should we "modernize" programming languages by putting them "on" something? Like "awk on a anchor", "C on a chimney" or "Java on Jambalaya"? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 06:54:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E81106567C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (static-212-162-182-244.cust.tele2.se [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1298FC1A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B78E10EEE9; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:48:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fg7BbK+cH1ui; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:48:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.eskk.nu (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C75710EE72; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:48:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 192.165.130.152 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leslie) by www.eskk.nu with HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:48:15 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20355.5705.678848.307759@wombat.mininet> References: <20355.5705.678848.307759@wombat.mininet> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:48:15 +0200 From: "Leslie Jensen" To: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20-RC2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups slow when printing from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:55:00 -0000 > Hi all, > > I'm struggling with a speed issue when trying to print stuff from > firefox (10.0.2,1). I've set up cups (meta package 1.5.2) on my box > which uses a Lexmark E360dn printer via ethernet. The printer has a > postscript emulation which is set as the default (as opposed to > PCL). I've used a PPD file from openprinting.org which claims that the > printer is 100% supported. Printing works fine in general with all > sorts of text and images, including PDF and LibreOffice and > whatnot. However, trying to print maps from maps.google.de sends one > CPU to 100% for a couple of minutes. Printing the same map from a > Debian box takes a couple of seconds. I can print the map to a file, > and print that file with lpr which also takes just a few seconds. > > While printing from firefox directly, I noticed a process gsc owned by > cups which causes most of the CPU load. I take this as an indication > that the postscript output from firefox is incorrectly rasterized on > my box, instead of sending the postscript data directly to the > printer. I did not make any changes to the default config files except > for adding the printer through the localhost:631 interface. > > Is there anything else that I need to configure, either on the firefox > or the cups end, to make printing maps faster? > > regards > Markus > > -- > Markus Hoenicka > http://www.mhoenicka.de > AQ score 38 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Markus. If you do a search in the archives you'll see that some of us have printing problems with Firefox. Some even suspect that printing in Firefox is broken. I myself has not been able to solve my specific printing problems which include both Firefox but also Libre office. I'm running Win7 in Virtualbox in order to fix my printing :-( Regards /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 07:06:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0369106564A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCF98FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so3939696vbm.13 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:06:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zsw2/Z5o0C+qu2r5UQzNtsqrx9Y3tqqQBW3XYgHNUbA=; b=fA+ll3U/ENF7QRxB3ib97ci+H6z86bvxLQXDz305ZhzQxXXxgiQNgebioF6Jrt4/Yf p5zU1kbgHtgw6ylY8dErRZZB4mgUx040kTooif0Nhu1W+nMIYAzKwNsuhm2W9RV2isNR 107rWP6LaG0WNzkqXqBiugOym4LXZwQh3jsyG8nGI/d7t6hLv/wExRns0xoYSl2dBinm r/NuPLTSuR1CtX3QpYKwfTGm7fXoNp5r+C+esH714t2mndrRfZzLRBNllaS9j/Ua3nMn kuyH1njVddtpDHnMNwaMi1vjE365sSUqu/Kv87Z4LxcR9oivsYGzLO2KTlSqP8YJCCn6 XdNQ== Received: by 10.52.94.146 with SMTP id dc18mr4164650vdb.19.1334041564529; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:06:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.189.72 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:05:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Christer Solskogen Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:05:44 +0200 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Apache: Socket is not connected: core_output_filter: writing data to the network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:06:05 -0000 I see this error in the error log of apache. It seems to happen whenever someone do a GET on certain mp3-files on my server. What does this error mean? -- chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 07:33:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA9B106568B for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4558FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3A7Xfe0079722 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:33:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q3A7Xfe0079722 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q3A7Xfe0079722; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F83E24E.2070007@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:33:34 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christer Solskogen References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig01A5C6B0B15D0663FA0F17C3" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Apache: Socket is not connected: core_output_filter: writing data to the network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:33:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig01A5C6B0B15D0663FA0F17C3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/04/2012 08:05, Christer Solskogen wrote: > I see this error in the error log of apache. It seems to happen > whenever someone do a GET on certain mp3-files on my server. What does > this error mean? It can be due to various different reasons. At a guess, probably this: https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D10712 In which case, it's probably your users getting frustrated with slow downloads and cancelling requests -- improving performance and getting more downstream bandwidth would help. Beyond that, it can be due to apache running out of file descriptors -- you'ld see error messages mentioning file descriptors elsewhere in the apache logs in that case, and it would only appear if your apache setup had hundreds of virtual hosts each with their own log files. Other things to look at: use of EnableSendFile or EnableMMAP in your configuration. IIRC this is generally fine and enabled by default on FreeBSD, *except* when you mount your document root by NFS. See the discussion in the Apache docs for more details. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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I want new events to be registered with the kqueue by a separate thread. I have been referring to this example [URL=" http://doc.geoffgarside.co.uk/kqueue/file.html"] http://doc.geoffgarside.co.uk/kqueue/file.html[/URL] Here are the relevant parts of code as it is at the moment. In my worker thread: [CODE]std::cerr << "Started worker" << std::endl; struct kevent ke; int i; while ( !mStopRequested ) { memset(&ke, 0x00, sizeof(kevent)); i = kevent(kq, NULL, 0, &ke, 1, NULL); if ( i == -1 ) { std::cerr << "kqueue produced error: " << strerror(i) << std::endl; continue; // todo is this the best thing todo? } std::cerr << "Beep: " << i << std::endl; } std::cerr << "Shutting down worker" << std::endl;[/CODE] Other thread [CODE]int fd = open(fileName.c_str(), O_RDONLY); if ( fd == -1 ) { std::cerr << "Failed to open file: " << fileName << " Error: " << strerror(errno) << std::endl; // todo throw exception } struct kevent ke; EV_SET(&ke, fd, EVFILT_VNODE, EV_ADD, NOTE_DELETE | NOTE_RENAME | NOTE_EXTEND, 0, NULL); if (kevent(kq, &ke, 1, NULL, 0, NULL) == -1) { std::cerr << "kevent produced error: " << strerror(errno) << std::endl; }[/CODE] When I run my code the kevent call in the worker code doesn't block at all. Any ideas what I'm missing? or if what I want to do is even possible? Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 14:50:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E44F1065673 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37BE8FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47CBD5C29 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:04:31 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F8448CD.9080906@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:50:53 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> <4F82C20F.9070904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F82CA46.7000700@bananmonarki.se> <4F82CE99.2060005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F84441D.1010705@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4F84441D.1010705@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:50:56 -0000 On 04/11/12 00:30, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2012-04-09 13:57, Da Rock skrev: >> On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> 2012-04-09 13:03, Da Rock skrev: >>>> On 04/09/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>>> Hello list. >>>>> >>>>> When I try to start X I'm getting this error >>>> >>>> Yep. This one will be fun... :) > > No. Not really. Never is, let me tell you. > >>>>> X.Org X Server 1.7.7 >>>>> Release Date: 2010-05-04 >>>>> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >>>>> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 >>>>> Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD >>>>> 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 >>>>> root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>>>> Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM >>>>> >>>>> Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 >>>>> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >>>>> to make sure that you have the latest version. >>>>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >>>>> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >>>>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) >>>>> unknown. >>>>> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Apr 9 12:30:37 2012 >>>>> (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) >>>>> (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData >>>>> data >>>>> object. >>>>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) >>>>> Setting master >>>>> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: >>>>>> Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 >>>>> symbols >>>>>> Ignoring extra symbols >>>>> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server >>>>> xinit: connection to X server lost >>>>> >>>>> waiting for X server to shut down Dropping master >>>> >>>> First some questions: >>>> >>>> 1. Does the machine lock up when you run X? >>> >>> No It doesn't but no picture. >>> >>>> 2. Do you know what video card you're using? >>> >>> Intel 845 >>> >>>> 3. What is the output of pciconf -lv, dmesg? >>> >>> pciconf -lv >>> hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x25608086 >>> rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = 'DRAM Controller / Host-Hub I/F Bridge >>> (82845G/GL/GV/GE/PE)' >>> class = bridge >>> subclass = HOST-PCI >>> vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x25628086 >>> rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '82845G/GL/GV/GE/PE Integrated Graphics Device' >>> class = display >>> subclass = VGA >>> uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24c28086 >>> rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI >>> Controller *1' >>> class = serial bus >>> subclass = USB >>> uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24c48086 >>> rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI >>> Controller *2' >>> class = serial bus >>> subclass = USB >>> ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24cd8086 >>> rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI >>> Controller' >>> class = serial bus >>> subclass = USB >>> pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 >>> rev=0x81 hdr=0x01 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub >>> Interface to PCI Bridge' >>> class = bridge >>> subclass = PCI-PCI >>> isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24c08086 >>> rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge' >>> class = bridge >>> subclass = PCI-ISA >>> atapci0@pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24cb8086 >>> rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA/100 EIDE >>> Controller' >>> class = mass storage >>> subclass = ATA >>> pcm0@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x00ad0e11 chip=0x24c58086 >>> rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = 'Realtek AC97 Audio (82801DBM SoundMAXController >>> (ICH4-M B0 step))' >>> class = multimedia >>> subclass = audio >>> fxp0@pci0:5:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00120e11 chip=0x103b8086 >>> rev=0x81 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) PRO/100 VM Network >>> Connection' >>> class = network >>> subclass = ethernet >>> >>>> 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? >>> >>> No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. > > > >> Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the last >> option I offered _will_ work. You need to force it to use vesa and that >> is the only way. > > It gives a black screen. Vesa or not. Is that with the retro option? > >> As a last chance perhaps run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new -retro and see >> if it does happen to work; this shows up the old test pattern so that >> you can see that X is actually running instead of a black screen. > > >>>> Finally, can you change the driver setting in the xorg.conf.new to >>>> vesa >>>> and run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new and see if it works then? >>> >>> Well, starting X from remote it seems to catch on. >>> >>> Hmmm....Only as root. Well I'll try to rebuild it without SUID. >>> >>> This is from remote AND root >>> >>> X.Org X Server 1.7.7 >>> Release Date: 2010-05-04 >>> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >>> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 >>> Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD >>> 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 >>> root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>> Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM >>> >>> Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 >>> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >>> to make sure that you have the latest version. >>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >>> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >>> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Apr 9 13:27:32 2012 >>> (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) >>> (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data >>> object. >>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdevhw" (invalid module, 0) >>> Setting master >>> >>> ^Cxinit: connection to X server lost >>> >>> waiting for X server to shut down xterm: fatal IO error 35 (Resource >>> temporarily unavailable) or KillClient on X server ":0" >>> xterm: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) or >>> KillClient on X server ":0" >>> XIO: fatal IO error 22 (Unknown error: 0) on X server ":0" >>> after 576 requests (576 known processed) with 0 events >>> remaining. >>> xterm: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) or >>> KillClient on X server ":0" >>> Dropping master >>> >>> xinit: unexpected signal 2 I've had trouble with the Intels for some time. I believe the newer models worked for a while though (9xx I believe) - at least last I saw... thank god they started using real GPUs as Radeon and Nvidia in laptops :) If I remember correctly, I had trouble with an Intel 845 (your exact chipset- pciconf showed the same as yours) a while back. I was able to use vesa, but then it broke. Mind you the whole laptop had started to go (usb, mouse, etc) so I had assumed it was a hardware failure and let it go at that. An external screen didn't help either. This may or may not be your scenario or problem (although if the symptoms are the same), but if that retro option doesn't work and you have the option to use another video card I would use it. Unless someone else can come up with anything else to try? Sorry to disappoint :( I certainly hope someone else has a better idea here... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 17:37:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B121065803 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kshaw@kendallshaw.com) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E668FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wHZW1i0071zF43QAAHdiCg; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:37:42 +0000 Received: from neti ([67.161.38.155]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wHdi1i0023LqvbX8kHdiYa; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:37:42 +0000 Received: by neti (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9FFB6A1519; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:37:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Kendall Shaw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:37:41 -0700 Message-ID: <87obqzqyhm.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: pcmcia wifi adapter that can be purchased? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:37:49 -0000 Hi, This is my first post in a decade or so. Hopefully, it is the start of a serious of decreasingly stupid questions... I've looked through the hardware notes for freebsd 9.0 which I have installed in my fujitsu lifebook p1110, and comparing the list of supported wireless adapters with what I can find for sale on the internet, I am still having trouble finding an adapter that I can actually buy that works. Do you happen to know of a PCMCIA Type II wireless adapter that is currently being sold online that supports WPA under freebsd 9.0? Alternately, a USB 1.0 adapter? I would rather keep the USB ports free for other uses. Kendall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 17:42:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2896E1065670 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38A18FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q3AHhWbi002578; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:43:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:43:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201204101743.q3AHhWbi002578@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jbiquez@intranet.com.mx In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> Cc: Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:42:24 -0000 Jorge Biquez wrote: > > Hello all. > > One of the managers asked me for help to block some web sites were > some students in the other lab and people that helps there waste > bandwithd seeing videos, movies (youtube, cuevana, serieid, etc) and > spend lot of time on facebook also. Our bandwidth is only 4Mb and you > understand that with a few that are seeing movies and videos the rest > of us can not work at all. Thing is that "other manager" (you know > how those things are sometimes) do not want us to do that since his > "guru" and expert is the one that controls all the Network. So the > best we could get until now is that we can do "all we can" without > touching the Cisco routers and until now not administrative password > for change anything on the PCs (that could change one we prove that > we can have the solution and show it to the board of people that runs > the place). [.. sneck ]] > So, in this kind of schema. Do you think FreeBSD (even linux) could > be of help if we do not have access to routers, switches and can not > install new software on the PCs( the ones running XP)? > > Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? This is doable -if- you can insert a, say FreeBSD, box in the network -between- the labs and the outside world, where all the traffic can be forced to go -through- that box. it would basically function as a i two-port router. This would probably require 'minor' configuration changes on the boxes on each side of the box you are adding (tweaking the 'routing' stuff, because there will be a new device/IP-address involved). IF you can get a box in that position, then 'ipfw', or 'pf', the 'firewall' utilities, will allow you to block traffic to/from selected netblocks. It will be somewhat 'maintainence' intensive, keeping the address-block list up to date -- as users find 'new and different' sources for the 'banned' content. somewhat *more* effective would be a tool that monitors 'who' each PC in the lab is connected to, -and- an indication of traffic levels or that PC. this can be accomplished by a box sitting somwehre that it can 'see' all the LAN traffic -- does -not- have to be inserted in-line like the 'filtering' box does. Something like 'tcpdump' to capture LAN traffic, piped into a (probably custom) analyzer that tracks source/dest IP addresses, packet 'data' size, and relevant data 'flags' (syn/fin mostly) can tell the lab supervisor which use they need to 'speak firmly' to. This -is- a 'people' problem, not a technology issue -- therefore, make the solution a *people*-based one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 17:45:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4239106566B for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842C18FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q3AHkNea002614; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:46:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:46:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201204101746.q3AHkNea002614@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: feld@feld.me, perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4f841a39.HBAUBxyZNGhsjfCA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:45:17 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 9 23:40:07 2012 > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:32:09 -0700 > From: perryh@pluto.rain.com > To: feld@feld.me > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity > > Mark Felder wrote: > > > Python on Planes is the future, maaaan. > > Shouldn't that be spelled "plains", as in the places where the > snake-containing grass grows? Nay. As written, it describes a problem in wood-shop tool-storage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 18:13:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EED106566C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward14.mail.yandex.net (forward14.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F4A8FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 92A89198242E for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:13:02 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334081582; bh=GvXrPHk2tDyidy70/M3p4d+77RDOmberSJ+xkeZzE7w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UB5GgIpzRxEhaEdydE/OoWog8jUZYNu8IP+NP7yRtDDFFi2JJgrdKtqiqT+R3URTn GgbeEY+6YbONHMy5kxxSWGiBuN3hKbD0eYaJOg+wM4J8w7xszvg/H4Zccho8PZvOz2 GGHmAOFz3j7NZEC3O/ZNZtnxoQHgjz1dpn4q2C/g= Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7761B1B60738 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:13:02 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.4]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id D0u4GSo8-D1u4YZ2a; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:13:02 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334081582; bh=GvXrPHk2tDyidy70/M3p4d+77RDOmberSJ+xkeZzE7w=; h=X-Nat-Received:Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:Organization: X-Priority:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EE9iUEkV/RzTd/D3Zebbjt6JLEiToZT4xqUMDXmX5WLo7sgHmytf1cFGGkzFJctOq zSJT9twMxkpmfKiI2FoY8lVFgjOv0k0kFPdkriNuZl7OPHULtbihxw0vdGkMnH1o3r NOFhROKI878IPpzbYKDD60qdfCUD1XAxhDdj+32g= X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.9.25]:2559 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1334088418.94918 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:12:57 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1201754362.20120410211257@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Missing kernel configuration file(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:13:04 -0000 I have upgrade src to Revision: 234068 # cd /usr/src # make -j 8 buildkernel KERNCONF=KES_KERN_v10 ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KES_KERN_v10). *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error # cd /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf # ls .cvsignore GENERIC.hints Makefile DEFAULTS KESOPTS LINT NOTES GENERIC KES_KERN_v10 LINT-VIMAGE XENHVM I always do this steps, but now I get errors. I can not find what was changed. How I must compile my kernel now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 18:20:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7BD106564A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward12.mail.yandex.net (forward12.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0F38FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (smtp12.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.191]) by forward12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 98D40C21BE7 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:20:34 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334082034; bh=AoopKZiFp1jMqglYgg0egzLS0HKINvDYRrp4Lk/bQfQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MkHV67gjBSPaE5RN6urzQcFnzmZO+f/F64hLkT+xYe/vpW5uICJXCZuCveLGkFnBi Wgv4mp5/CSKtbuTuJyd5Oimo9hMUsr66FK1/TsHzqXNPK400bMXYH6CxxuGxSctq82 T2O09/fguBbkVhNvHaovtaTqoKkPzO66WHHY2Kis= Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 76F2316A0552; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:20:34 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.4]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id KWNuNuOT-KYNWnE1v; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:20:34 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334082034; bh=AoopKZiFp1jMqglYgg0egzLS0HKINvDYRrp4Lk/bQfQ=; h=X-Nat-Received:Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:Organization: X-Priority:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Tz2LO+rNycSfhLF6bp+xYWBvzXhTGbYzT7BP8BKqdAEDf371rsgQyX2od2zJmjuwm HaX/snAGTa1EplygEIO956rZtRg55Fc8vPNaZMVrRZONA/JGnZHxOPFWy3itJ2oNTR bJb8TrBXC7NXNadGQN2pSxeuZv0f8GjL99RS1zMI= X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.9.25]:2619 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1334088870.94983 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:20:30 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5410421241.20120410212030@yandex.ru> To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= In-Reply-To: <1201754362.20120410211257@yandex.ru> References: <1201754362.20120410211257@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing kernel configuration file(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:20:36 -0000 ÊÅ> I have upgrade src to Revision: 234068 ÊÅ> # cd /usr/src ÊÅ> # make -j 8 buildkernel KERNCONF=KES_KERN_v10 ÊÅ> ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KES_KERN_v10). ÊÅ> *** Error code 1 ÊÅ> 1 error ÊÅ> *** Error code 2 ÊÅ> 1 error ÊÅ> # cd /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf ÊÅ> # ls ÊÅ> .cvsignore GENERIC.hints Makefile ÊÅ> DEFAULTS KESOPTS LINT NOTES ÊÅ> GENERIC KES_KERN_v10 LINT-VIMAGE XENHVM ÊÅ> I always do this steps, but now I get errors. ÊÅ> I can not find what was changed. ÊÅ> How I must compile my kernel now? Foget, that I install freebsd from CD with i386 so I need make -j 8 buildkernel KERNCONF=KES_KERN_v10 TARGET=amd64 Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 19:07:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D4910656B3 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37B58FC1C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CED148ED for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 90353148EC; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:07:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p5B37B423.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.180.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC1C7148EA for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:07:17 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120410210717.3e65b9a9@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <4F835F10.4000207@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20120409180730.08dfe9bb@dijkstra.cruwe.de> <4F835F10.4000207@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: zpool creation on geli failed with FreeBSD-9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:07:29 -0000 On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:13:36 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > On 04/10/12 02:07, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > > I was trying to install FreeBSD 9.0 using a geli encrypted disk and > > ZFS on my ThinkPad R500 this weekend. I failed. > > > > Having sucessfully initialized the geli part and having attached the > > provider, my attempt to create a zpool on the geli section thus > > > > $> zpool create ntank /dev/ada0p2.eli > > > > failed with the message > > > > Cannot create 'ntank': invalid argument for this pool operation. > > > > I could not convince the system to create the zpool on the geli > > part, so I gave up and created the zpool on the unencrypted > > partition instead to have a working machine for the week. I would, > > however, like to have my data on an encrypted partition though. Has > > anyone witnessed and resolved this issue or does anyone have other > > ideas? > > Someone using ZFS will be able to verify this, but from my > understanding ZFS runs on the hardware and you can *possibly* put > geli on top of ZFS. > > You can put geom on ZFS but not the other way around. > > HTH > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I had a zpool on a geli on FreeBSD-8.0 to 8.2 and 8-stable. I opted for a complete reinstall of 9.0 instead of upgrading due to issues with xmonad, which I did not understand then. I am "furious" at my decision now that I have seen that a update would possibly have been much easier than to reinstall, had I at that time understood what was causing problems with xmonad. Cheers, Christopher From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 19:52:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B041065677 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@benshort.co.uk) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919678FC18 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so186830lag.13 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=GHxlOtiFdZcKylko1q3eUtKDKB+lCVUblqfNxxS7ydw=; b=iLealRdRYQ1VLxrunJ3F0f33hnOrBOlU9fi/M6myZ0qrxY/Yl8kwXWXLj8HrMfjHg2 ELuo89KyZVW+/VHstkN5X4ReYeoRG2fUk/RlOrQrby786J2ZANhube3K12OJo5yp+VX3 D0R9F9wBq5tC8ZuvxjimexNdG8PgQI0QJGL/YoQftND3pbrvz305eleePZ5Qo6yZhGAt aU8axayQF6O6Ufinnmj+CfdY5oBBFTJf0r0Bv7ROjMEHmuS2mG+thmEgQSoY4i5hojxS ZSwxBk1QMhT4vEjLP7duSFlC2j4EcXY9bm6hTs89uc+/1myP7VUE6eGA9MTFRf7a2lVf 4Gog== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.100.170 with SMTP id ez10mr1823014lbb.15.1334087533504; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.110.131 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:52:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ben Short To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnk3vZBtNPBBLmHnHdjfTqJUW7+1SzOcAu/OS29bjR4+o36xTm1PiZzz8QRkCLDoeceGSUy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Using kqueue with 2 threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:52:15 -0000 I have put together the following example and can still see the problem. Once the file is written to extended is printed every second. If I remove the sleep then it prints a whole lot more. So it seems that the call to kevent in the worker_thread method blocks until the file is written to then it returns the same event straight away on every call. Is this expected? Am I meant to clear the event some how? #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include using namespace std; struct wrapper { int kq; }; static void* worker_thread(void* obj) { int kq = ((wrapper*)obj)->kq; std::cerr << "Started worker" << std::endl; struct kevent ke; int i; while ( 1 ) { memset(&ke, 0x00, sizeof(ke)); i = kevent(kq, NULL, 0, &ke, 1, NULL); if ( i == -1 ) { std::cerr << "kqueue produced error: " << strerror(i) << std::endl; continue; // todo is this the best thing todo? } else if ( i == 0 ) { std::cerr << "kqueue time limit expired" << std::endl; continue; } if ( ke.filter == EVFILT_VNODE ) { if ( ke.fflags & NOTE_DELETE ) { std::cerr << "delete" << std::endl; break; } else if ( ke.fflags & NOTE_RENAME ) { std::cerr << "rename" << std::endl; } else if ( ke.fflags & NOTE_EXTEND ) { std::cerr << "extended" << std::endl; } else { std::cerr << "some other fflags" << std::endl; } } else { std::cerr << "some other filter" << std::endl; } sleep(1); } std::cerr << "Shutting down worker" << std::endl; return 0; } void writeToFile(std::string fileName, std::string key, std::string value) { std::fstream registryEntry; registryEntry.exceptions(std::ifstream::failbit | std::ifstream::badbit); try { registryEntry.open(fileName.c_str(), std::ios::out | std::ios::binary); size_t keyLength = key.length(); registryEntry.write((char*)&keyLength, sizeof(size_t)); registryEntry.write(key.c_str(), key.length()); size_t valueLength = value.length(); registryEntry.write((char*)&valueLength, sizeof(size_t)); registryEntry.write(value.c_str(), value.length()); std::cout << "Set entry with key: " << key << std::endl; } catch (std::ifstream::failure e) { // todo throw exception std::cerr << "Failed to set registry entry. Error: " << e.what() << std::endl; } registryEntry.close(); } void test2() { int kq = kqueue(); if ( kq == -1 ) { std::cerr << "Failed to create kqueue. Error: " << strerror(errno) << std::endl; return; } pthread_t worker; wrapper wrap; wrap.kq = kq; if ( pthread_create(&worker, 0, worker_thread, &wrap) != 0 ) { std::cerr << "Failed to create listener thread. Error: " << strerror(errno) << std::endl; } int fd = open("/tmp/tt", O_RDONLY); if ( fd == -1 ) { std::cerr << "Failed to open file: " << "/tmp/tt" << " Error: " << strerror(errno) << std::endl; // todo throw exception } struct kevent ke; EV_SET(&ke, fd, EVFILT_VNODE, EV_ADD, NOTE_DELETE | NOTE_RENAME | NOTE_EXTEND, 0, NULL); if (kevent(kq, &ke, 1, NULL, 0, NULL) == -1) { std::cerr << "kevent produced error: " << strerror(errno) << std::endl; } sleep(1); writeToFile("/tmp/tt", "key1", "value1"); sleep(5); } /* * */ int main(int argc, char** argv) { test2(); return 0; } On 10 April 2012 15:25, Ben Short wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to use a kqueue to listen for VNODE events on a worker thread. > I want new events to be registered with the kqueue by a separate thread. > > I have been referring to this example [URL=" > http://doc.geoffgarside.co.uk/kqueue/file.html"] > http://doc.geoffgarside.co.uk/kqueue/file.html[/URL] > > Here are the relevant parts of code as it is at the moment. > > In my worker thread: > > [CODE]std::cerr << "Started worker" << std::endl; > > struct kevent ke; > int i; > > while ( !mStopRequested ) { > > memset(&ke, 0x00, sizeof(kevent)); > > i = kevent(kq, NULL, 0, &ke, 1, NULL); > if ( i == -1 ) { > std::cerr << "kqueue produced error: " << strerror(i) << > std::endl; > continue; // todo is this the best thing todo? > } > > std::cerr << "Beep: " << i << std::endl; > > } > > std::cerr << "Shutting down worker" << std::endl;[/CODE] > > Other thread > > [CODE]int fd = open(fileName.c_str(), O_RDONLY); > if ( fd == -1 ) { > std::cerr << "Failed to open file: " << fileName << " Error: " << > strerror(errno) << std::endl; > // todo throw exception > } > > struct kevent ke; > > EV_SET(&ke, fd, EVFILT_VNODE, EV_ADD, NOTE_DELETE | NOTE_RENAME | > NOTE_EXTEND, 0, NULL); > > if (kevent(kq, &ke, 1, NULL, 0, NULL) == -1) { > std::cerr << "kevent produced error: " << strerror(errno) << > std::endl; > }[/CODE] > > > When I run my code the kevent call in the worker code doesn't block at > all. Any ideas what I'm missing? or if what I want to do is even possible? > > Ben > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 20:42:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E64C106564A for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACEF8FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.132.83.212] (helo=wombat.mininet) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1SHhrU-0000Eh-Mh; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:40:24 +0200 X-Mailer: emacs 23.3.1 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 8.1.1 under 23.3.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20356.39569.384762.717731@wombat.mininet> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:39:45 +0200 To: "Leslie Jensen" In-Reply-To: References: <20355.5705.678848.307759@wombat.mininet> From: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de X-Df-Sender: NDcyNTgy Cc: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups slow when printing from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:42:50 -0000 Leslie Jensen writes: > Hi Markus. > > If you do a search in the archives you'll see that some of us have > printing problems with Firefox. Some even suspect that printing in Firefox > is broken. > > I myself has not been able to solve my specific printing problems which > include both Firefox but also Libre office. > > I'm running Win7 in Virtualbox in order to fix my printing :-( > Hi Leslie, good to know, I thought it's just me being too stupid to press the right button. For the time being I'll resort to printing to a file and sending that to lpr, instead of running Win7. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 22:09:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7D11065670 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from anakin.london.02.net (anakin.london.02.net [87.194.255.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B9C8FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (87.194.237.233) by anakin.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4EEB63D2020D7AD1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:08:25 +0100 Message-ID: <4F84AF58.2090306@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:08:24 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <87obqzqyhm.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> In-Reply-To: <87obqzqyhm.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pcmcia wifi adapter that can be purchased? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:09:52 -0000 On 10/04/2012 18:37, Kendall Shaw wrote: > > Do you happen to know of a PCMCIA Type II wireless adapter that is > currently being sold online that supports WPA under freebsd 9.0? > Alternately, a USB 1.0 adapter? I would rather keep the USB ports free > for other uses. Linksys WPC54G works with malo driver (check the man page if you get one) and is available on ebay. I haven't had one in regular use but I just did a flood ping on 9.0R i386 and it showed less than 1% packet loss. Chris > > Kendall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 22:19:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F4C1065670 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA0D8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:19:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=jJLqlfH7z9y1Y/NW1j10Tc+uTgjKtzNa2Gx5Eu3SCCw=; b=S0zc28vbj/1fnpMb8IiEBfN3wC5shyjNo7Hos7A9iE2ynMJSzNkUbUIlwskX7tOu4ugGQCM6DV7nY3v5xQCXLFXpz87aoMAFEIi2PCN9WH1focLiWXvtCIrvLQ26mhmt; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SHjPc-0009M9-AX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:19:44 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1334096383-23734-23733/5/13; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:19:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> <20355.44079.41358.84650@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <3416874405-176955403@intranet.com.mx> <4F83B566.8040705@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:19:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4F83B566.8040705@herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:19:45 -0000 On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:21:58 -0500, Da Rock wrote > > For the interim (and as a POC), setup squid and dans guardian and point > the browsers to proxy using that machine. Prove your point and then > explain that this can be done transparently if you had some control of > the routers. > He could just do a MITM on the default gateway via ettercap. Not very ethical, but it would certainly work ^_^ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 22:21:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDEF1065672 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com (mail-pz0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039FD8FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadz14 with SMTP id z14so1029292dad.17 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:21:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8G+vywMt+lWNTTUNPptckzfNf39IRywcY7zsTdSxbrs=; b=Ob+09rG0HVy3Y1V2zzIKMYNi7d5Vni/klgi6A2L5nC3GTqPJonBWYEHdBCXQHivQlJ jHN2ktWKasE/sIs/YEwMLwzQrvCC/f021pUwc7ogzdBVEZIzR+GoeaHN4YiNxm7B4q51 CxOH3kLqkZn42/8cLNWUTw0aK/M7+XDr2oZ4pILjGIuDw0EwKcpoARrzT0BAD5beraaC YSmG1Is3Urds2oOITvdpAP9l6XHud4JUFOXF6lOIQWQUqvu/Z9VQKzXlcAPE+EL2jN7Y B+3OjUEjDsrUbXvEB82WykuyhUulpQ00qkWt4VtnXJAxiYHPcSGp5y/VcVuvrU5JJ35e YZaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.195.163 with SMTP id if3mr32853341pbc.127.1334096485582; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.73.19 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:21:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87obqzqyhm.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> References: <87obqzqyhm.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:21:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Kendall Shaw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcmcia wifi adapter that can be purchased? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:21:26 -0000 On 10 April 2012 13:37, Kendall Shaw wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first post in a decade or so. Hopefully, it is the start of a > serious of decreasingly stupid questions... > > I've looked through the hardware notes for freebsd 9.0 which I have > installed in my fujitsu lifebook p1110, and comparing the list of > supported wireless adapters with what I can find for sale on the > internet, I am still having trouble finding an adapter that I can > actually buy that works. > > Do you happen to know of a PCMCIA Type II wireless adapter that is > currently being sold online that supports WPA under freebsd 9.0? > Alternately, a USB 1.0 adapter? I would rather keep the USB ports free > for other uses. > bwi(4) & bwn(4) list a few possibilities, -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 22:49:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5760C1065673 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kshaw@kendallshaw.com) Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1828FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wNlZ1i0021wfjNsA8NnzzJ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:47:59 +0000 Received: from neti ([67.161.38.155]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wNny1i00d3LqvbX8jNnyA3; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:47:58 +0000 Received: by neti (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B5EA6A1555; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Kendall Shaw To: User Questions References: <87obqzqyhm.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> <4F84AF58.2090306@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:47:58 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4F84AF58.2090306@onetel.com> (Chris Whitehouse's message of "Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:08:24 +0100") Message-ID: <878vi3qk4h.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: pcmcia wifi adapter that can be purchased? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:49:05 -0000 Chris Whitehouse writes: > On 10/04/2012 18:37, Kendall Shaw wrote: >> >> Do you happen to know of a PCMCIA Type II wireless adapter that is >> currently being sold online that supports WPA under freebsd 9.0? >> Alternately, a USB 1.0 adapter? I would rather keep the USB ports free >> for other uses. > > Linksys WPC54G works with malo driver (check the man page if you get > one) and is available on ebay. I haven't had one in regular use but I > just did a flood ping on 9.0R i386 and it showed less than 1% packet > loss. > > Chris Thanks. Oops... I clicked too soon and bought from Amazon. The bwi/bwn man pages say the version 3 of the adapter is supported. Amazon doesn't say what version. Is the malo driver for newer versions of the adapter? Thanks to the other poster for suggesting looking at the bwi/bmn man pages. Kendall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 01:28:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAEE1065670 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A247F8FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3B1S1Ki013804; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:28:03 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:28:06 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204110828.06378.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Jorge Biquez Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:28:06 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday 10 April 2012 10:27:24 Jorge Biquez wrote: > > As I have mentioned before I am helping a school , non profit with non profit --> no cost? > One of the managers asked me for help to block some web sites were Have you checked hosts? A rough but easy way. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 07:41:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1F71065A0E for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pstreem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643838FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so1155812iah.13 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:41:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qobCUuKNYguAPgMizKR5JEq6SWxdLYeOcjgp0inBqeU=; b=bF0usnSbANPuHSTWpT9swepuIFxA5XD2XjPrjYfTnewoPPP+K0BACW8vguRPIw6JGw Z78sXpRmkuwm2p8muOfjL6VlHhCqlcYu6Na3ktneL1B6SqcWyXKL56QTBAELG7A3znfT htSTzoMAYzlpkIJA1JIrJo1RdS9m79QSYeqYm0HY5yrnmtOgK9Zgf5qbif16w2wGY2bE LDvq4EHtMvO2YHEhyqOsGmEiSliW/gijKG35O/H9IhYVAeNCzvUgBYXPE3sn3i0dPxVz GqB93fHu6yb0NE/6ePciC6Mkxny9OrvbrrmLgtAb7WRKP/pjN6TFMW1kbrT92UWCa7ED /G6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.45.197 with SMTP id p5mr4693061igm.20.1334130070881; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.199.203 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:41:10 +0800 Message-ID: From: PstreeM China To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: install IDS from port , but can not find the Ports security/acid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:41:11 -0000 hi everyone : i want use the snort like IDS in my network , google the document from internet . there is ACID (analyst center) used provided web UI , can install from security/acid . but after i fetch port (portsnap fetch ; portsnap extract ) , i can not find the ports "security/acid" OS version=EF=BC=9A freebsd 8.2 so , i want to know how can i install ACID ?? anybody can help me ? BR PstreeM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 08:21:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8302F1065678 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A3B8FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2E31EAB0; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:20:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3B8KuR0002808; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:20:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:20:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PstreeM China Message-Id: <20120411102056.84e75d93.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: install IDS from port , but can not find the Ports security/acid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:21:04 -0000 On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:41:10 +0800, PstreeM China wrote: > hi everyone : > > i want use the snort like IDS in my network , google the document from > internet . > there is ACID (analyst center) used provided web UI , can install from > security/acid . > > but after i fetch port (portsnap fetch ; portsnap extract ) , i can not > find the ports "security/acid" There is an entry in /usr/ports/MOVED: security/acid||2008-04-04|Has expired: development has ceased, use security/base >From base's description: BASE is the Basic Analysis and Security Engine. It is based on the code from the ACID project. This application provides a PHP-based web front-end to query and analyze the alerts coming from a Snort IDS system. BASE is a web interface to perform analysis of intrusions that Snort has detected on your network. It uses a user authentication and role-base system, so that you as the security admin can decide what and how much information each user can see. It also has a simple to use, web-based setup program for people not comfortable with editing files directly. Maybe you can check this one in relation to your requirements? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 08:43:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD255106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pstreem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFC58FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so1254606iah.13 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:43:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2XynRKrR0+UgL4XDzwpBmXEYxGq75Kco0GeUbbWtv5k=; b=iqX3oZKGLYw1pyZe/0P6H26T6tNPZdk5L4BnsnINIEpqEhICpKBOsJKdzzxW0IGSOe ZLnCCoe2ga6a2WNIFQSMKjsSa7qIawBIObjaCpE0QJ0WT8D4ijl4jE+hIUZb6mzrHuVQ pOs/ivd75SzFEc594E+jpWCfxmpDN8RENCJcUZZj8mmStMnNJ0vApuLYlass50lN2iIK IBGDSLGUhiXwin9ZMCs38vwhKQJ0d83fVK9ipLtMRwOvEXt6SxhVzgd26KnmcGj3L2fM akp1IdvbnXypFGPFUwKWLasDD23OdHFWImHD9PZ7/Oimo3y3GtP5TV0yhy0e1iKuNHAn qpkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.149.163 with SMTP id ub3mr1255908igb.30.1334133827069; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.199.203 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:43:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F853B11.8060301@poniki.net> References: <4F853B11.8060301@poniki.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:43:47 +0800 Message-ID: From: PstreeM China To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ufs Subject: Re: install IDS from port , but can not find the Ports security/acid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:43:48 -0000 On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:04 PM, ufs wrote: > On 11.04.2012 11:41, PstreeM China wrote: > >> hi everyone : >> >> i want use the snort like IDS in my network , google the document from >> internet . >> there is ACID (analyst center) used provided web UI , can install from >> security/acid . >> >> but after i fetch port (portsnap fetch ; portsnap extract ) , i can not >> find the ports "security/acid" >> OS version=EF=BC=9A freebsd 8.2 >> >> so , i want to know how can i install ACID ?? anybody can help me ? >> >> >> BR PstreeM >> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> > #more /usr/ports/security/base/pkg-**descr > > BASE is the Basic Analysis and Security Engine. It is based on the code > from the ACID project. This application provides a PHP-based web front-en= d > to query and analyze the alerts coming from a Snort IDS system. > > BASE is a web interface to perform analysis of intrusions that Snort has > detected on your network. It uses a user authentication and role-base > system, so that you as the security admin can decide what and how much > information each user can see. It also has a simple to use, web-based > setup program for people not comfortable with editing files directly. > > Use ../security/base/ > > i think this is what i want . thanks very much . i will have a test . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 08:45:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0721065673 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa12.ono.com (smtp12.ono.com [62.42.230.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E9D8FC1F for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from GogPortatil.retena.com (85.219.71.98) by resmaa12.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4EFDA3B5018DB909; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:45:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4EFDA3B5018DB909@> (added by postmaster@resmaa12.ono.com) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:46:42 +0200 To: Jorge Biquez From: Eduardo Morras In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 2012.0.1913 [2411/4927] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:45:10 -0000 At 05:27 10/04/2012, you wrote: >Hello all. > > >Thanks in advance for your time and comments. Perhaps this app may help you: http://sourceforge.net/projects/teachercp/ There are commercial apps too that do the same and more. HTH >Jorge Biquez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 08:51:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4827C106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terrence@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792658FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:51:02 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-Sophos: Scanned and found clean X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [46.44.172.93] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.4.2) with XMIT id 8633404; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:51:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:50:59 +0200 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: <7515505cb4e9104bbe3574db313a173a@mediamonks.com> In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> Thread-Topic: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: Ac0XwDdxKHNrWP57Sb2kR3azgYDI5Q== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "Jorge Biquez" X-MAPI-Message-Class: IPM.Note.SMIME.MultipartSigned X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.54.6/1.54.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CD17D0.FB1BEC40" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:51:03 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CD17D0.FB1BEC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 at 05:27:24, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > I am sorry if this is kind OFF Topic. I am looking for help from more > experienced people in these areas. Please let me know if this > question should be moved to FREEBSD-CHAT list. > > As I have mentioned before I am helping a school , non profit with > their IT issues. As always there are some "experts" that controls > everything and do not let you change anything because is their > kingdom. Anyway, there we have Internet service from a cable company > and they have some cisco routers to receive the access and from there > some Cisco Switches. > In the classrooms we have very old PCs running XP. In some of my > classes I am using Freebsd and Ubuntu running on a USB. So each > student have one USB and they work that way booting from their 4GB > USB stick. (it is slow but it has worked until now). > > One of the managers asked me for help to block some web sites were > some students in the other lab and people that helps there waste > bandwithd seeing videos, movies (youtube, cuevana, serieid, etc) and > spend lot of time on facebook also. Our bandwidth is only 4Mb and you > understand that with a few that are seeing movies and videos the rest > of us can not work at all. Thing is that "other manager" (you know > how those things are sometimes) do not want us to do that since his > "guru" and expert is the one that controls all the Network. So the > best we could get until now is that we can do "all we can" without > touching the Cisco routers and until now not administrative password > for change anything on the PCs (that could change one we prove that > we can have the solution and show it to the board of people that runs > the place). > > The Internet provider gives the DNS servers to use and one of the > routers gives the DHCP service. > > First thing I thought was to change the DNS servers and use the one > from my small office (running Freebsd 7.3) using Bind there and > simply block there pointing the sites to nothing in the Apache > configuration. It does not work. Once changed the DNS values the PC > does not resolve anything. It was a quick test but that does not > work. Not sure if Internet provider is blocking in some way that we > can not use other DNS server but theirs. > > Other solution I was thinking while coming home was to convert one > machine there to a freebsd server and use it as a router (if they let > me) so that way I can control from there and do filtering. Issue is > that maybe they do not let me but connect the server as an extra > machine without replacing the main router so in that case I would > have 2 DHCP servers doing the same service in the same lan and could > be conflicts I guess. > > Another solution a friend suggested was to buy one small router (from my > money for sure) and let that small router to receive the internet (RJ45) > and from that with the small 4 port switch included to provide the > internet to the switches to feed the labs , library and administrative > offices. I have never use one of those and I am short on money so I > would like to explore other alternatives before if possible. > > Finally another solution would be to install in each PC a kind of > Nanny software but only if free, otherwise is not a solution (I do > not know of any yet but will do searching the following hours). > > I know all can be solved if the "guru-expert" guy would let me have > passwords from PC's, router, etc but that won't be an option since > they think we would try to take the control of those services (we do > not want that) so the burocracy could be a problem there. He have > told them that to block is not possible (they have been working that > way for years). > > So, in this kind of schema. Do you think FreeBSD (even linux) could > be of help if we do not have access to routers, switches and can not > install new software on the PCs( the ones running XP)? > > Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? You could ask the "guru-expert" guy to implement traffic shaping like weighted fair queuing and prioritizing SYN's etc. That way people can watch all the videos they want without it affecting the work of others. You can also implement it yourself transparently with a FreeBSD box with two adapters bridged and something like ipfw+dummynet, you'd just need to insert it somewhere in the route (before any masquerading is performed though). -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:41:08 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:29:42 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On 04/10/12 21:32, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Mark Felder wrote: > > > > > >> Python on Planes is the future, maaaan. > > > Shouldn't that be spelled "plains", as in the places where the > > > snake-containing grass grows? > > > > > > :-) > > > > > Ha! One would think so, but with ruby on rails one would think > > that python on plains wouldn't sound anywhere near as exciting > > or appear too quick. That and a shaded reference to a certain > > similarly titled movie with Samuel L Jackson- corny! :D > > Should we "modernize" programming languages by putting > them "on" something? Like "awk on a anchor", "C on a > chimney" or "Java on Jambalaya"? :-) Sather on sabattical? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 10:01:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB0C106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward2.mail.yandex.net (forward2.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3458FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web55.yandex.ru (web55.yandex.ru [77.88.47.161]) by forward2.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DFAD712A2527 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:00:46 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334138446; bh=0otAYm6+u6C7XTYw/fgGTkazjMFj5kaEbeaXQD3dB6k=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=g3W7jH0AuUmbrXzAmo//6AflweHNRXKIMKk45dKYR9uUfcqI+Hemgebho54ju94hA 4lVIdKw/TGTMUfWtRjfDTC6eBkT9xQ/h0YFDmK3RPDs+UBy/2JhAmu/xUrbigLJ1MX sq+/mrwdCOtHGFZADU3P6I/z/oAY+vox1pZdTjGA= Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web55.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id A92516790082; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:00:46 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334138446; bh=0otAYm6+u6C7XTYw/fgGTkazjMFj5kaEbeaXQD3dB6k=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=g3W7jH0AuUmbrXzAmo//6AflweHNRXKIMKk45dKYR9uUfcqI+Hemgebho54ju94hA 4lVIdKw/TGTMUfWtRjfDTC6eBkT9xQ/h0YFDmK3RPDs+UBy/2JhAmu/xUrbigLJ1MX sq+/mrwdCOtHGFZADU3P6I/z/oAY+vox1pZdTjGA= Received: from [77.93.52.5] ([77.93.52.5]) by web55.yandex.ru with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:00:46 +0400 From: KES Envelope-From: kes-kes@yandex.ru To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <434851334138446@web55.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:00:46 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Subject: ipfw FreeBSD 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:01:30 -0000 building kernel with this options: options IPFIREWALL #enable ipfw options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable log options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable fwd options IPDIVERT options LIBALIAS options IPFIREWALL_NAT #enable nat do not enable IPFW When doing ipfw show it shows 0000000 93874234 23402394820384 any to any and stops From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 10:01:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766C4106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@on-track.ca) Received: from fate.ctgameinfo.com (fate.ctgameinfo.com [50.22.51.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AF18FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (S0106602ad07e4e6d.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.36.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fate.ctgameinfo.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A3654506D for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at spamass Message-ID: <4F855478.50104@on-track.ca> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:52:56 -0700 From: Cstdenis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: portupgrade not preserving shared libs as documented? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:01:32 -0000 Portupgrade man page says "By default, portupgrade preserves shared libraries on uninstallation for safety." I ran i in the form of: portupgrade -b pcre Now /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 does not exist anymore, only the new /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.1 is there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 10:28:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FE7106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from anakin.london.02.net (anakin.london.02.net [87.194.255.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A268FC15 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (87.194.237.233) by anakin.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4EEB63D2020F710F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:28:16 +0100 Message-ID: <4F855CC0.4060009@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:28:16 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87obqzqyhm.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> <4F84AF58.2090306@onetel.com> <878vi3qk4h.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> In-Reply-To: <878vi3qk4h.fsf@neti.kendallshaw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pcmcia wifi adapter that can be purchased? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:28:18 -0000 On 10/04/2012 23:47, Kendall Shaw wrote: > Chris Whitehouse writes: > >> On 10/04/2012 18:37, Kendall Shaw wrote: >>> >>> Do you happen to know of a PCMCIA Type II wireless adapter that is >>> currently being sold online that supports WPA under freebsd 9.0? >>> Alternately, a USB 1.0 adapter? I would rather keep the USB ports free >>> for other uses. >> >> Linksys WPC54G works with malo driver (check the man page if you get >> one) and is available on ebay. I haven't had one in regular use but I >> just did a flood ping on 9.0R i386 and it showed less than 1% packet >> loss. >> >> Chris > > Thanks. Oops... I clicked too soon and bought from Amazon. The bwi/bwn Yes looks a bit more expensive there than ebay. > man pages say the version 3 of the adapter is supported. Amazon doesn't > say what version. Is the malo driver for newer versions of the adapter? My card is v5 with Marvell Libertas 88W8335 chip. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 11:20:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28B21065672 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC1D8FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so782103bkc.13 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:20:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TxoSMpWNFOYlUvSZ2F3OCvZ3axtzAAmBm1oVD4sjo0k=; b=HhYcCdp2gm0oC2UNl/TysQf8ltdSLqBSkv81AQpLtcsueToqAdrhy8fq4tOHwuxF3y bYzo29Ta0cgGNZwEA5MQ/dB9HPq0UeVczuLWUOhUgWB5LRw6jgMhAhTuuK43O5xTFVtN PnsQhCWNtRxXp1nAQVrAtpVgVbxXRmdFMSv1n++vc5Q2Snf5s6LUGWQaGJD742t1W/KG O92H5nkD95UkzeqTNwl7E8WVOkR5byvfRqk1egUfKdZgMWokgAiGxuaP2RsR1S7eoKgF PMnNKaDzliLulVDHIxABeFcbjhhLPM/1owBv07q7xkIxAGzGRz70NnmJZteQHVliK+wz 1uWg== Received: by 10.204.157.134 with SMTP id b6mr6308110bkx.88.1334143206206; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z14sm4139573bky.15.2012.04.11.04.20.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:20:02 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120411122002.15339fb1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4F855478.50104@on-track.ca> References: <4F855478.50104@on-track.ca> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade not preserving shared libs as documented? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:20:08 -0000 On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:52:56 -0700 Cstdenis wrote: > Portupgrade man page says "By default, portupgrade preserves shared > libraries on uninstallation for safety." > > I ran i in the form of: portupgrade -b pcre > > Now /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 does not exist anymore, only the new > /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.1 is there. It backs them up under the compat directory. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 11:57:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3E4106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from anchor-msapost-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-msapost-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFE18FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.41.35.220] (helo=[192.168.16.85]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1SHw4n-0000r3-mA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:51:06 +0000 From: "Dave B" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:51:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:57:38 -0000 FreeBSD FBSD.67MK181QZ 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 14 22:55:09 BST 2010 root@FBSD.67MK181QZ:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PPSGENERIC i386 Hi. I have a small FreeBSD 8.0 system (above, yes I know, not current, but it works.) That is mainly used for timekeeping with an attached PPS equipped GPS. No problems with that. It also has a small web server (Hiawatha) FTP server and SSH portal, for my own use. The FTP "server" is the built-in OS based ftpd implementation, and works well for all that I need. Anyway... I found a while ago, that I can tunnel connections into my home LAN via a SSH session to my FreeBSD box, from outside the LAN using PuTTY (on Windows XP) from wherever I am. It's been a useful dodge for me to do that so as to VNC to other boxes that are there. The needed SSH working port, is not the usual suspect, it's way up high, well away from script kiddies etc. I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when connecting this way using a SSH tunnel. Over the SSH session, (using Passive Mode, with all needed ports forwarded, plus the FTP daemon's data port usage restricted to the same range as those tunneled.) Though the FTP process appears to work OK, with no errors, the file sent to and deposited on the server ends up as name only, and zero bytes in length. Oddly, I can successfully create a new folder on the FTP server over the SSH session using the FTP client, and that works just fine. The FTP client I'm using, is the same FileZilla both times. (V3.1.0.1 I may go look for any updates, just in case.) Downloading works fine regardless of how I connect, it's just uploading that's screwey. I suspect (as usual) it's a rights issue, but even if I su - root after the initial SSH login, it changes nothing. The FTP user is a different name from who I'm logged in as by SSH, is that the issue? But what confuses me, is that it works from this same PC, if it's on the home LAN, using the same FTP user credentials. I'm obviously lacking in my understanding of something, but what? I may not get to see any replies for a day or three, as I've got to head off across country for work later, and it's not yet known if tonight's hotel even has WiFi, or if there is decent mobile coverage where I'm going. (Out in the Wiltshire sticks. UK, and I'm stuck with Orange.) Thanks in advance. Dave B -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 12:12:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101DE106564A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE12A8FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2012 08:12:09 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BRR75759; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:12:08 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2012 08:12:08 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20357.29976.294862.301653@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:12:08 -0400 To: KES In-Reply-To: <434851334138446@web55.yandex.ru> References: <434851334138446@web55.yandex.ru> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: ipfw FreeBSD 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:12:10 -0000 KES writes: > building kernel with this options: > options IPFIREWALL #enable ipfw > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable log > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable fwd > options IPDIVERT > options LIBALIAS > options IPFIREWALL_NAT #enable nat > > do not enable IPFW > > When doing > ipfw show > it shows > 0000000 93874234 23402394820384 any to any > and stops I have IPFW working, eith: options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity in the kernel config file, and : ipfw_load="YES" ipfw_nat_load="YES" # in-kernel ipfw nat libalias_load="YES" # for in-kernel ipfw nat in /boot/loader.conf. (Note: the available documentation for basic IPFW is good. However, if you want to do NAT, the information - in the IPFW man page and the Handbook - extremely confusing. It took me a week and some expert help to get this working.) Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 13:33:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7829E1065679 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459048FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:33:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=ScH0FEgywP9qAHitSs0AC2L1SQOXGmlxPnx+a6/7FPI=; b=PKRU5cluX2qyUWeP1CWKr3qRpPEi7H4T8b+RMfn5e9i1K5YaxxywcOtQ5cDGVypuZ62aUyNvb0sf4l0XpqZu/NhTgp1X68Vng3U6SxblfSdeXK4IVYuGuwwP3LxKFWqC91ELacNhqiz1jgyqCK08uoAfKMDqho9WR3bIam0K9pE= Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.209.140]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:33:03 -0700 Message-ID: <4F85880C.7050700@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:33:00 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jorge Biquez References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2012 13:33:03.0865 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F274E90:01CD17E7] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:33:22 -0000 Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > >snip > In the classrooms we have very old PCs running XP. In some of my classes > I am using Freebsd and Ubuntu running on a USB. So each student have one > USB and they work that way booting from their 4GB USB stick. (it is slow > but it has worked until now). > > One of the managers asked me for help to block some web sites were some > students in the other lab and people that helps there waste bandwithd > seeing videos, movies (youtube, cuevana, serieid, etc) and spend lot of > time on facebook also. Our bandwidth is only 4Mb and you understand that > with a few that are seeing movies and videos the rest of us can not work > at all. > > snip > > Other solution I was thinking while coming home was to convert one > machine there to a freebsd server and use it as a router (if they let > me) so that way I can control from there and do filtering. Issue is that > maybe they do not let me but connect the server as an extra machine > without replacing the main router so in that case I would have 2 DHCP > servers doing the same service in the same lan and could be conflicts I > guess. This method is very common. You have 2 methods here. Both methods will give you a central location to control both windows and Freebsd PC's on the local LAN as to what ip address they can access. Replace the main router with your Freebsd gateway box or just cable your main router to the Freebsd gateway box running ipfilter or pf firewall and dhcp. Then from second nic on the Freebsd gateway box to your existing switch. Configure dhcp on the Freebsd gateway box to issue ip address in the 10.0.10.0 range and specify the ip addresses of the dns servers of the ISP. Enable NAT (network address translation) function of the firewall. If you replace the main router with the Freebsd gateway box, then the Freebsd gateway box will get the public routable ip address assigned by the ISP. If you place the Freebsd gateway box down stream of the main router then it will get 192.168.x.x ip address from the main router. This is ok and will work fine. You did not say, but some ISP modems have built in routers, if that is what you are calling the main router then you can not replace it. Your Freebsd gateway box has to be down stream in this case. Here is a good resource for you to review "Freebsd Install Guide" at www.a1poweruser.com > > snip > > Finally another solution would be to install in each PC a kind of Nanny > software but only if free, otherwise is not a solution (I do not know of > any yet but will do searching the following hours). > >snip > > On each Freebsd pc blocking selected ip addresses can be done using the "routed blackhole" command. Example: To Add use route add -host attacker_ip 127.0.0.1 -blackhole To Delete use route delete -host attacker_ip 127.0.0.1 -blackhole To List use netstat -nr|grep 127 This is executed in the IP stack and is faster than in the firewall when you have over 20 of those special "deny this IP address" rules in the firewall. In your case the "attacker_ip" is found by using the "dig" command, "dig www.facebook.com" returns the ip address of 69.171.228.40 You can create a script (route_blackholed_ip.sh) containing route commands for all the IP address that you want to block and save it to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ so it will be run at boot time from the USB thumb drives your students use to boot Freebsd from. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 13:58:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7871106564A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA3A8FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id wduv1i009516WCc01duwlY; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:54:57 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I8Dntacg c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=3U4P7cnuZlkA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=t-kBee1TbJTUkscaeTcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SHy0d-000KFh-E6; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:54:55 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:54:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201204111454.54957.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Dave B Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:58:08 -0000 On Wednesday 11 April 2012, Dave B wrote: > I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the > FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when > connecting this way using a SSH tunnel. Would it not be simpler just to use sftp directly rather than tunnelling ftp through ssh? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 14:32:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496AF1065670 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B9B8FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcmm1 with SMTP id m1so895642vcm.13 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:31:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=//S0wP8D/eonSkN8FQD6fTNIdTNak00IMWg5OThWM18=; b=GJHq0zQUabmylxZno18Lpcuvs4urFciNKCETs+YfMPY6kSNvY/Ug/HSd5WnE06YosZ N2dHWQWs1IMGR7zoN7heE2m2ThrxF+rz/taZ/HDf1/geqUk3ohfqWc4P+NUVm62YJkS/ qlwK5JLPpdKztQr5H9RrYyhA+Nj/w0m7kRx8wUqiQZUmn6utYC078bOzPalk2YmYFakj J3QbEoHE4ZJfwumbETVC/UuSTBRCiU2bB05aeq2iSr8SP9dBQwOoUCJDtUVDUVfcLOh0 qcmV47yISfQORXYppb4oaGwdFepihpa3m9axdrAEW+k9bsQ5pR0GMpDLiCnRRMvdb/x4 O7ig== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.153.8 with SMTP id i8mr7803387vcw.73.1334154718017; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.2.145 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:31:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201204111454.54957.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <201204111454.54957.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:31:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Mike Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dave B Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:32:05 -0000 On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Wednesday 11 April 2012, Dave B wrote: > >> I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the >> FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when >> connecting this way using a SSH tunnel. > > Would it not be simpler just to use sftp directly rather than tunnelling > ftp through ssh? > > -- > Mike Clarke Using sftp or scp is not just simpler in configuration, it has the added benefit of being supported by cool gui applications (filezilla, winscp, etc) that are available for multiple operating systems. The only configuration change I make is to change the port used by ssh. That simple change eliminated most of the hacker attempts found in various logs (failed logins, etc). Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 14:33:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D12B1065688 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 685258FC22 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 14:33:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.229] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 14:33:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1038.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2012 14:33:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 822471.85558.bm@omp1038.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 71433 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Apr 2012 14:33:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1334154785; bh=L6c/YRFGMGyaq1a6QhaZyOC6m3JUGXhHnH5075gurlw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h4F7b7Y8kFGB7zW2komrsRK7yO7OBKafM3hDuI2spOD2zTTCxqsC5nslh4vOurEyrbh3sdKtvyRIk9Px088EX6eiiQPp1JJOC1yfqQcBQoy9A08txumQhqTtyTPRgzN8hJO/seHjmd6RXjkUbJYO/M6TS4FsGhg0UhMf+bE0XSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M7x1qMvvQV05fR6ktAIK9MfukS4oPYrULJDLJTNSdEugezRyrw/zrg14Em2sViBtNCMtuAAr0kBIp14FMh6EIwpyRtHo+JFm4+Zt2iGx5IV3qc6FFVS/9yMsFtA6voIrRRn2ZJvcweJvQU3qcOocNM7A5mHOrkOpPbB4Yw6m3rA=; X-YMail-OSG: fKjMZeYVM1mJEDsZUF0qGIET2zIhP.98wl56434PZzDOL13 epx.X5wVHVLVNqUYOGToeTmo.Sc8uAB.2_wxSmWH8O1ScfNUzTt80OpDgySY uF1pBjAncOW5IlnXLL.UIRRsTt3lLseX3vRVjD0Fk.0ycZRHq2GC2u8Ssxzq 9K1Ua6p4Na4MKIpRPKRgDlUcvoiAUqHzAj8K3bbZHGPD8zPwScj.XPxnqs36 uvoGifVARqvb8Bquf7.C2EnZYyvBrSu.ePWTtZme1JoyVH6dy.vfjpYcozwv OGg6Xq6YcZIZ3ix4XuIA5Ggk.QJqXXsHZ6uzCX83ycj2Ub897In3RADwCveE Yu0ZrWXec4eNT64FgebgySAhtrdBhecS9xn8DmDYJo_oikb1ey8P5rJQhHno YxDg.H6byqRxb9u6wRZ_djyvObiDYqDJaCnDeFxS3jz7k5pTJpITgOlSwhnr GJKCOtJqBPmrRmTUba7AiwVo9Qw-- Received: from [173.221.141.195] by web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:33:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> <4F821954.1060302@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1334154785.65754.YahooMailNeo@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <4F821954.1060302@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bill Tillman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:33:07 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Nikos Vassiliadis =0ATo: Jay West =0ACc: 'Adam Vande More' ; 'mikel king' ; freebsd-questi= ons@freebsd.org =0ASent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:03 PM=0ASubject: Re: Token= Ring (really)=0A =0AOn 4/8/2012 4:41 PM, Jay West wrote:=0A> Adam wrote...= =0A>=0A> Otherwise, it's time to abandon steamships for airplanes.=A0 Sound= s like you=0A> have a primed business opportunity just waiting to be exploi= ted.=0A>=0A> -----------=0A> Actually, this is for a historical re-creation= project. Airplanes would be=0A> entirely inappropriate for a historical di= splay, so steamships it is. Last I=0A> checked, there was no primed busines= s opportunity in doing something for=0A> non-profits (museums, etc.) :)=0A>= =0A> I guess I'll have to see how tough it would be to yank the TR code fro= m 7x=0A> and get it running under 9x. Probably above my skillset, but I'll = have a=0A> looksee.=0A>=0A> J=0A>=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AYou could try finding an "e= thernet to token ring" translating bridge,=0Athough I am not aware of the b= udget will need - or if you'll find one=0Aanyways.=0A=0AJust a thought,=0A= =0ANikos=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questi= ons@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fr= eebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsub= scribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0ASorry to jump in on this one so late but here i= s my 2 cents on this one:=0A=0AMadge cards were all the rage back in 1996 t= hru 1999. I was IT Mgr for a=0Afinancial services company which ran token r= ing....ring in-ring out and pass=0Athe MAU-e-wau-e pipe please. Back then, = Madge cards ran $300 or more.=0AThese days you can buy a 1000mbs ethernet c= ard for $5. So I vote for=0Aswapping out the NIC and get on with life. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 15:18:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677D31065672 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D428FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so1834521iah.13 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:18:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ecIEdt6Kme2bUfDd3xaQOx35rIzCk+VHF+6++b/dfZw=; b=bJJ0DS+nv5WuStRTjTPcnBRqCK7fvlhUcIQZVWIxAQ9HjxJQKkwzH3XfOA5obsPjn7 Gq3k4EZutaIF8LenwITjRFpDSz6oFXpdt7sov7veMgF1kx6U5fLBhA2n+hcuun2OzwGK SdI/aipwnlN/8n/XwXO4OrpqUyTTUdB4LvY4OxXlSpVMhjLQgjMEAxRUvWu+GlndTgb6 +Du446Yvkg2T3rHM8UcA+TJ+Sgn0bGUw2B9/c13D+wbcJ2QFuCavkET3kA9WggfA3cm+ 0d3OQQw/44RcqQFrxE9uB/e3CFhR0flXuNe2m8gRucigt8HpsfGJWt2jmskIjmtzIRAo 6ziw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.151.133 with SMTP id e5mr10015883icw.7.1334157485034; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.23.206 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:18:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.172.150] In-Reply-To: <20120410083230.36fe18c0.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120409150547.GA73820@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4f841a39.HBAUBxyZNGhsjfCA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4F83C546.5080700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120410083230.36fe18c0.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:18:04 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlN9rGn+lYCehxgKZEOLlcBOECWToQn3vaUZINRnadRpoNRJdPj1pc6fHMkTMncbxG/4SbY Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Da Rock Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:18:06 -0000 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:29:42 +1000, Da Rock wrote: >> On 04/10/12 21:32, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> > Mark Felder =A0wrote: >> > >> >> Python on Planes is the future, maaaan. >> > Shouldn't that be spelled "plains", as in the places where the >> > snake-containing grass grows? >> > >> > >> > >> > :-) >> > >> Ha! One would think so, but with ruby on rails one would think that >> python on plains wouldn't sound anywhere near as exciting or appear too >> quick. That and a shaded reference to a certain similarly titled movie >> with Samuel L Jackson- corny! :D > > Should we "modernize" programming languages by putting > them "on" something? Like "awk on a anchor", "C on a > chimney" or "Java on Jambalaya"? :-) Well, many native languages are merely "assembly on steroids." Or is it vice-versa? ;-) -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 15:22:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A73106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0758FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from LENOVOD6B52A6B by ezwind.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 02-md50000130363.msg for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:22:44 -0500 From: "Jay West" To: "'Bill Tillman'" , References: <000301cd1412$b39c1550$1ad43ff0$@net> <000801cd141b$01c9fe60$055dfb20$@net> <000001cd1465$f8d56740$ea8035c0$@net> <000b01cd1595$a8c55ef0$fa501cd0$@net> <4F821954.1060302@gmx.com> <1334154785.65754.YahooMailNeo@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1334154785.65754.YahooMailNeo@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: <000001cd17f6$f101c0b0$d3054210$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0X8CHIIMM+KzcXQu6AjVQG8QD46gABrsIw Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:22:44 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 66.128.111.62 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: RE: Token Ring (really) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:22:52 -0000 There's some reasons that approach doesn't work, per IBM's protocol. Jay West EZwind.net PO Box 460474 Saint Louis, MO 63146 Voice: (314) 262-4143 ext 1000 Toll Free: (866) 343-2589 Fax: (314) 558-9284 jwest@ezwind.net -------------------------------------------- This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. = Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designees is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Bill Tillman Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:33 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) ________________________________ From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Jay West Cc: 'Adam Vande More' ; 'mikel king' ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Token Ring (really) =20 On 4/8/2012 4:41 PM, Jay West wrote: > Adam wrote... > > Otherwise, it's time to abandon steamships for airplanes.=A0 Sounds = like=20 > you have a primed business opportunity just waiting to be exploited. > > ----------- > Actually, this is for a historical re-creation project. Airplanes=20 > would be entirely inappropriate for a historical display, so=20 > steamships it is. Last I checked, there was no primed business=20 > opportunity in doing something for non-profits (museums, etc.) :) > > I guess I'll have to see how tough it would be to yank the TR code=20 > from 7x and get it running under 9x. Probably above my skillset, but=20 > I'll have a looksee. > > J > Hi, You could try finding an "ethernet to token ring" translating bridge, = though I am not aware of the budget will need - or if you'll find one anyways. Just a thought, Nikos _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Sorry to jump in on this one so late but here is my 2 cents on this one: Madge cards were all the rage back in 1996 thru 1999. I was IT Mgr for a financial services company which ran token ring....ring in-ring out and = pass the MAU-e-wau-e pipe please. Back then, Madge cards ran $300 or more. These days you can buy a 1000mbs ethernet card for $5. So I vote for swapping out the NIC and get on with life. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 15:23:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5352106564A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F348FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so1841947iah.13 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:23:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=0VVXUAQW/LSk4+mzXSBniE7z3qsuXx3yhVIZHJ3DFC4=; b=F6cry/DczKgmWm+h3BTQrh7othqROfOr7Z2FK9tgA/pwqCTy5f7A+k2ri3IxtOKVRl 9kDlh5wpEBr6W8MySQ/MNxOHktkB5Ue1JHoZ7r7Z+JelZM34DgDhWuUFhqqEu+e4u6Qp 5TPRYissxJ5meUQpKXVkjS8FbIZfi2Ar48QZaiLkyJmurD9XLE5SmRmjgmt4hoiUt/UQ w7B6Erhbfz5vf5AxReJ4qyVkbBvO7PQmx/Eu5XsmU8YGyhhX8JspKofb/QEET7BC51ae crd/rSrs0mp923/xfVs46HCwypbNpZ7MlMWcAokSy7u4tkeFjJmZ1AA/d6DvKKpuCcSU A8/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.41.201 with SMTP id h9mr2617830igl.19.1334157804091; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.23.206 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.172.150] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:23:23 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Tony Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk9hGkikLpuDusHZTJK40HHd3neW1KFMPCCOarYbNsQcs8sPSKk5c2PH0tHhgATWhxiszuH Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:23:24 -0000 On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Tony wrote: > The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more > forced than well thought out. First you have the shiny Satanic 3D-lookalike > logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) that might look cool > the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like "what the > hell *is* that thing anyway"? (...) Last time, a redesign brought us the "sex toy" logo to appease the anti-Beastie fraction. So, please, not again. Let's concentrate on improving FreeBSD itself. There's more than enough work to do in this department before we even consider letting ourselves be distracted by design issues again. Thank you, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 16:29:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5200106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F39B8FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3BGTZFZ009564; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:29:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F85B138.4050403@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:28:40 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120411 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> <4F82C20F.9070904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F82CA46.7000700@bananmonarki.se> <4F82CE99.2060005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F84441D.1010705@bananmonarki.se> <4F8448CD.9080906@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F8448CD.9080906@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:29:45 -0000 2012-04-10 16:50, Da Rock skrev: >> It gives a black screen. Vesa or not. > > Is that with the retro option? No it was not. Now I have fixed it, wife on my back so I had to fix it quickly. Pkg_delete \* cd x11-wm/xfce4 so now it starts up without errors. Thank you all for your input. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 17:05:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAE4106564A; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward4.mail.yandex.net (forward4.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5398FC17; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.mail.yandex.net (smtp1.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.101]) by forward4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 77AE21BC21F4; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:05:16 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334163916; bh=MMdqYtyUK7M2jTb+C5FTArdZPn+rsztX9husSTOIp8I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UXMnyNhie+XCG3yyqGGBiEqUCHZA3RXqtmPc+UpgmhJyvhcJS1sOyVsmnhI93mK3+ zEMbMq1OlmNQgsEJhQw6M9xL9GnEWfgty6VDPqvZIVeCAU7r9eTuGrQNeBk3W+0f16 fZWK45JBcY4E/eRzcUEBXUg6oZn70Mqavns+NhZk= Received: from smtp1.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4AF57AA02EA; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:05:16 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [176.8.82.56]) by smtp1.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 5CqCUTjr-5Fq0qxWg; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:05:15 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334163916; bh=MMdqYtyUK7M2jTb+C5FTArdZPn+rsztX9husSTOIp8I=; h=Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:Organization:X-Priority:Message-ID:To: CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=isknHtZvc/95iJMi/6diLNmrMMTb+wA+KGs8bjxb2gu+/63JMdDItKn1zjzbj7bWo fzofPmEDsGND3Cc1lZ7lV3GyOF3yeY123aaArOTA6mNWvjoyjrYe5+ctXtsBGTd31G xWYI8otPuCPyu4HAfW/S4lm+XDBTXui/Yy7Uzg20= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:05:10 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1003395682.20120411200510@yandex.ru> To: Eugene Grosbein In-Reply-To: <4F835728.5030809@rdtc.ru> References: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> <4F835728.5030809@rdtc.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:05:18 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Eugene. ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 10 ÁÐÒÅÌÑ 2012 Ç., 0:39:52: EG> 10.04.2012 01:36, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ ÐÉÛÅÔ: >> Hi. >> >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. >> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG >> Apr 9 20:09:22 kernel: >> >> running manually: >> # fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e >> ** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) EG> You cannot run fsck on mounted filesystem, unmount it first. Why not? fsck can do its job at background, on mounted FS. So I also can run it on mounted FS. in this case (as I have showed) it do not find any errors. In any case I have run fsck on this FS when it was dismounted. There is no any errors. I think here is only one problem. problem to 'RUN FAST FSCK' -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ëÏÎØËÏ× mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 17:18:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF061106566B; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from egrosbein@rdtc.ru) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CF38FC08; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3BHIBAM060260; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:11 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from egrosbein@rdtc.ru) Message-ID: <4F85BCD3.3060900@rdtc.ru> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:18:11 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110112 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7_=E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA?= References: <61227818.20120409213654@yandex.ru> <4F835728.5030809@rdtc.ru> <1003395682.20120411200510@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <1003395682.20120411200510@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:18:14 -0000 12.04.2012 00:05, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ ÐÉÛÅÔ: > úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Eugene. > > ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 10 ÁÐÒÅÌÑ 2012 Ç., 0:39:52: > > EG> 10.04.2012 01:36, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ ÐÉÛÅÔ: >>> Hi. >>> >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. >>> Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG >>> Apr 9 20:09:22 kernel: >>> >>> running manually: >>> # fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e >>> ** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) > > EG> You cannot run fsck on mounted filesystem, unmount it first. > Why not? fsck can do its job at background, on mounted FS. It is run in special mode then, you run fsck not that way. > So I also can run it on mounted FS. "NO WRITE" signals you that it will not be able to fix any problem it encounters. > in this case (as I have showed) it do not find any errors. And if it finds any error on mounted live file system, that would not mean the error really exists. Do NOT run fsck on mounted file system, period. > In any case I have run fsck on this FS when it was dismounted. > There is no any errors. So, you need not bother, your file system has been already fixed. > I think here is only one problem. problem to 'RUN FAST FSCK' No need to, already. Eugene Grosbein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 18:08:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20789106566B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward14.mail.yandex.net (forward14.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA008FC17 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web133.yandex.ru (web133.yandex.ru [95.108.131.156]) by forward14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DCA7719820B2 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:08:04 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334167684; bh=q39uZZzJSW5elj0ozd9QLHLFsfj1f2P6kl4r3Zqcv2w=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=JjdxH5YyxC6nPAVpF/y1DpuqF4EbmYKuIsHw8w6ofbqyd//8HmEtzmTKkhdHiZxS7 kGGGX98rzW5nIXGl1ouua0mDKsCz/W6NKn/7BQQri5NXY24SOvqpgZEDE6CwbXijs6 gynpQ/dvz5M3ME7DxhjD6G6qZ2x2CMK5raiR+jjg= Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web133.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id AF2D272B0001; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:08:04 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334167684; bh=q39uZZzJSW5elj0ozd9QLHLFsfj1f2P6kl4r3Zqcv2w=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=JjdxH5YyxC6nPAVpF/y1DpuqF4EbmYKuIsHw8w6ofbqyd//8HmEtzmTKkhdHiZxS7 kGGGX98rzW5nIXGl1ouua0mDKsCz/W6NKn/7BQQri5NXY24SOvqpgZEDE6CwbXijs6 gynpQ/dvz5M3ME7DxhjD6G6qZ2x2CMK5raiR+jjg= Received: from [77.93.52.20] ([77.93.52.20]) by web133.yandex.ru with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:08:04 +0400 From: KES Envelope-From: kes-kes@yandex.ru To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <505981334167684@web133.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:08:04 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Subject: Problem with vlans on igb (was: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:08:07 -0000 -------- ðÅÒÅÓÙÌÁÅÍÏÅ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ -------- 11.04.2012, 13:14, "KES" : 10.04.2012, 08:50, "Da Rock" : > šOn 04/10/12 05:02, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ wrote: >> ššYes, I have tested. >> ššand on this hardware on this OS it works from šFri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 >> ššbut last two days: >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššMon Apr š9 19:50 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššMon Apr š9 18:30 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 20:55 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 20:00 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 19:49 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 17:43 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 10:58 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSat Apr š7 21:13 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSat Apr š7 16:37 >> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSat Apr š7 16:07 >> >> ššI remembered. One thing changed. >> ššI add vlans to igb2, but no traffic flow on that devices yet. > šPerhaps you should test removing the vlans and see if things improve? I have removed vlans, two day server works without reboots >> ššBefore this I have use: igb0, igb1, igb3 >> ššigb0@pci0:1:0:0: šššššššclass=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >> šššššššvendor šššš= 'Intel Corporation' >> šššššššclass ššššš= network >> šššššššsubclass šš= ethernet >> ššigb1@pci0:1:0:1: šššššššclass=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >> šššššššvendor šššš= 'Intel Corporation' >> šššššššclass ššššš= network >> šššššššsubclass šš= ethernet >> ššigb2@pci0:1:0:2: šššššššclass=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >> šššššššvendor šššš= 'Intel Corporation' >> šššššššclass ššššš= network >> šššššššsubclass šš= ethernet >> ššigb3@pci0:1:0:3: šššššššclass=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >> šššššššvendor šššš= 'Intel Corporation' >> šššššššclass ššššš= network >> šššššššsubclass šš= ethernet >> >> ššifconfig_vlan100="inet š192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 100 vlandev igb2" #nALL >> ššifconfig_vlan101="inet š192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 101 vlandev igb2" #n2 p24 >> ššifconfig_vlan102="inet š192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 102 vlandev igb2" #n1 p23 >> ššifconfig_vlan103="inet š192.168.3.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 103 vlandev igb2" #n3 p22 >> ššifconfig_vlan104="inet š192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 104 vlandev igb2" #n7,9 p21 >> ššifconfig_vlan105="inet š192.168.5.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 105 vlandev igb2" #n11 p20 >> ššifconfig_vlan106="inet š192.168.6.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 106 vlandev igb2" #n13 p19 >> ššifconfig_vlan107="inet š192.168.7.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 107 vlandev igb2" #n223 p18 >> ššifconfig_vlan108="inet š192.168.8.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 108 vlandev igb2" #n225 p17 >> ššifconfig_vlan109="inet š192.168.9.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 109 vlandev igb2" #n221 p16 >> ššifconfig_vlan110="inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 110 vlandev igb2" #n229 p15 >> ššifconfig_vlan111="inet 192.168.11.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 111 vlandev igb2" #n233 p14 >> ššifconfig_vlan112="inet 192.168.12.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 112 vlandev igb2" #n231 p13 >> ššifconfig_vlan113="inet 192.168.13.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 113 vlandev igb2" #n237 p12 >> ššifconfig_vlan114="inet 192.168.14.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 114 vlandev igb2" #n424 p11 >> ššifconfig_vlan115="inet 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 115 vlandev igb2" # >> >> ššPAP> šNothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /var/crash >> ššPAP> šwould indicate to me some sort of hardware related problem. >> ššPAP> šHave you tested your hardware lately and know that it is in operational order? >> >> ššPAP> š~Paul >> >> ššPAP> šOn Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??????? ??????? wrote: >>>> ššHi. >>>> >>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK >>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: >>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: >>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. >>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG >>>> ššApr š9 20:09:22 kernel: >>>> >>>> ššrunning manually: >>>> šš# fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e >>>> šš** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) >>>> šš** Last Mounted on /tmp >>>> šš** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >>>> šš** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames >>>> šš** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity >>>> šš** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts >>>> šš** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >>>> šš99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) >>>> >>>> ššServer reboot two or three time per day >>>> šš# uname -a >>>> ššFreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881: Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 ššššadm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 šamd64 >>>> >>>> ššbefore this it works about month without problems >>>> >>>> šš/var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any messages before crash. >>>> ššCan any help to fix problem? > š_______________________________________________ > šfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > šhttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > šTo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -------- úÁ×ÅÒÛÅÎÉÅ ÐÅÒÅÓÙÌÁÅÍÏÇÏ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÑ -------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 19:17:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980421065673 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwinlculp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E078FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so1298533bkc.13 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:17:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XZRpegVImwThJZPiMRu0Kpos/iM2L7pD4EIazmiXzKg=; b=X8EU8dQsK1IhN2bihExrqJMFhNBUBMYGnwHvLgtPqeyKfCN7zBC+R9B4bDAaz2Y5U9 UK6DAIz84ftsamEZJO0o7mdZpzWXU/XAn+VV6q0jqbLJK2kG0Uu3b9l0DzdwSlBqmJqR IJBRqgL3MGNvsRX9ktmhh+a3giNKnuqa1Ty/cfTCbHtrAlvofAvuYwWESxsFrtG0+PI9 1LqxbHuP0zX5hVhTFYntB0GhjkkLGe+znRm5AwcH+x/hX4zmCYAL2g4nkWjVUavxV83U D9gAcg4a9gDst1UV0FBPWQ0d32uImQYb3J8Yv+YRitnmToC8M/rUAZ6TSpAi7Jye4fVq kmgA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.148.80 with SMTP id o16mr6587393bkv.3.1334171821889; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.233.78 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:17:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Edwin L. Culp W." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to successfully enable HP LaserJet Professional m1212nf MFP, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:17:03 -0000 hpcups 3.12.2, requires proprietary plugin that seems to not be available in the HP site. I have tried to get it using hplip-3.12.2 with no success. I have tried with both cups and hplip and can't get it going. Any suggestions appreciated. Maybe the official hplip-3.12.4 might work but hasn't been updated yet. I tried to compile it but wasn't able to adapt the patches. Thanks, ed P.D. Is there a better way to use hp equipment than cups? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 21:46:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9C1106564A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6C18FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds12 with SMTP id ds12so1363621wgb.31 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:46:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ukzh6e0J2/vK3YKJ7Bge8qj0Eiw+t2wSQl5FIcx7o5o=; b=0qyODK3c2rOuUKepbOoXLkLw6t3G6eFvoTL/St2breP5dzHC+5LlbPK1azVWaggxE3 X626U39qDMyNw58zUO161HzvSxZOD8utrCkc589ZsYXE0q5eK9UoZX/7lVLt+8lY9qKt E+gXlTmK6ZgQK+W98Se+RIxbaebwcpQIVOIxLT23VKWoFFESOB87OwSr8w0FMOMB717e ILlDDLTUoQbJ0o5maFarekm8prkqcIQgzeB7jPy1N5H9lnAGXbXui8OoSO1PNzAa7LFC XBDQ4SkzuR3YALX41PRLm/TMo1+df8OrDk/qvBJO+R8TOW5onzKfg7Qm0lp9zQZInrOA lFog== Received: by 10.216.136.138 with SMTP id w10mr9774313wei.75.1334180811820; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3sm13992835wiw.1.2012.04.11.14.46.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:46:48 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120411224648.378f49ec@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS and Linux binaries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:46:53 -0000 What's the explanation for this: $ ldd /usr/compat/linux/bin/pwd /usr/compat/linux/bin/pwd: /tmp $ LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=3D1 /usr/compat/linux/bin/pwd libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28076000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x28050000) =46rom what I've read ldd works through setting LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS, and neither form should work on a linux binary. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 22:06:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E13F106566C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ueber@roladder.net) Received: from mail.roladder.net (roladder.net [46.4.18.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1692C8FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.roladder.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id F36452555939; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:01:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on roladder.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (p4FE17384.dip.t-dialin.net [79.225.115.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.roladder.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D0DE255557B for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:01:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4F85FF2E.3000309@roladder.net> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:01:18 +0200 From: Florian Unglaub User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Intel turbo mode support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:06:41 -0000 Hi, I've stumbled upon http://goo.gl/Aq6Vd in the freebsd-current mailling list and started investigating if turbo mode is working on my i7 860 here. The CPU stock frequency is 2.8GHZ which is the maximum that dev.cpu.0.freq_levels reports (powerd is enabled). According to the link above, freq_levels should show a maximum frequency of 2801 if turbo mode is working. The patch above was MFC'ed quite a while ago. I updated to 9-stable yesterday and it looks like the turbo is not working. dev.cpu.0.freq is at max. 2.8GHz, even if I am using some CPU stress testing utilities (like burnP6). I'm really thankful for any input on this matter. Florian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 23:24:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FC11065670 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F34C8FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [109.190.13.180]) (Authenticated sender: kha@dichotomia.fr) by sslmail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 481A53DD07C for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:14:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4F86102B.2050205@dichotomia.fr> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:13:47 +0200 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3416873322-176955401@intranet.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (sslmail.dichotomia.fr); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:14:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:24:38 -0000 On 10/04/2012 05:27, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > I am sorry if this is kind OFF Topic. I am looking for help from more > experienced people in these areas. Please let me know if this question > should be moved to FREEBSD-CHAT list. > > As I have mentioned before I am helping a school , non profit with > their IT issues. As always there are some "experts" that controls > everything and do not let you change anything because is their > kingdom. Anyway, there we have Internet service from a cable company > and they have some cisco routers to receive the access and from there > some Cisco Switches. They won't let you do things not because it is their "kingdom", but because they certainly have a contract with prices for services and penalties for lack of services. As IT professional they want to make their lives simpler and have whoever benefits from a service pay for it. This is a logical and sane attitude to have. Now if you want to meddle with the stuff they are legally responsible for you need to prove them a few things : 1 - Nothing you do will impact them in terms of workload. You might be working for free (and it is very noble of you), but they are trying to earn their lives here. So more work for the same price is not an option. 2 - You can be trusted and you have good skills. This start by explaining fully what you want to achieve, how you will do it and (most important point) how fast anything you do can be undone. No matter what solution you choose it is likely to have side effects, especially since you have no knowledge of what is installed and how it is set-up, except what you can guess probing here and there without administrative rights. No matter how simple and innocuous you solution may seem, it might break the first rule, for example a FreeBSD Gateway might prevent patches from a WSUS server to be applied, it might prevent remote control, it might prevent alert mails to be sent or received and so on. 3 - You have to right the full documentation of what you are going to do, give all the administrative password of your solution to the "experts", complete with a good deal of explanation on how to use, remove or change the system. It is also important that they know they can remove your own rights on your own solution if need be. The reason are you may not always be available and you may not always be lucid or in good terms with the school. If a problem arise they have to be able to take full control back, on way or another. 4 - You will find a way to pay them for your solution. Even if you do everything yourself, and have enough skill to do it right without them helping at any point (which is extremely unlikely), the time needed for the "experts" to review, test, validate and potentially maintain your solution will have to be paid. The closer the solution is to what they already know and have a staff trained for, the lighter the price. But do not expect them accept a solution that might bring them troubles but won't bring them money. The main problem you might have is that you do not seem to have any respect for the guys in charge. True I do not know your history with them, and they may not deserve respect, but as an IT manager for quite a lot of companies both large and small I can tell you one thing : We positively loathe the smart guy with a (most of the time very small) IT background that springs out of nowhere to bring simple solutions to complex problems. 99.9 % of the time they end up giving up with the job half done or they disappear just as suddenly as they appeared taking all their knowledge with them. From the director 13 years old nephew who can have the thing running in minutes (or so the director seems to think) to the junior analyst that will replace a behemoth of ETL processed files and Excel sheets with a single Access app because he has read the first three chapter of "VBA for Brain Damaged" last week, we see them coming from miles away and needless to say that there are no warms welcome when they finally arrive. The only way to get anywhere is to be humble and then impress the "experts" with your professional and exhaustive approach of the problem. Anything else will lead to the "experts" telling you that to achieve the result you want you will need to purchase the solution they know (probably a Checkpoint/Baracuda/Blue Coat/what else appliance) and then pay monthly for maintenance. There are literally thousands of solutions to your problem, ranging from simply installing K9 on every computer to a complex set up with QOS, LDAP/KERBEROS auth and rights delegation going to a redundant active proxy with cache and filtering. Given the small size of the lan, an old and small computer with two ethernet cards and PFSense could probably do the trick, but you will need insight from the guys in charge to be sure. Dans Guardian can offer content filtering, but will require more RAM and CPU power. Cheap commercial appliances will do everything you need and more for around 2000$, with a lot less hassle to set up than a custom solution and a nice technical support from the vendor. Unfortunately a yearly fee is to be expected for it to work at full potential. Cheap routers from a wide brand of vendor will do everything you need or close for around 600$, but the set up will require a lot more knowledge. Ultra Cheap WRT54GL can do pretty anything you need for around 60$, but it can be tedious to set up. Other router compatible with OpenWRT can work too (WZR-HP-AG300H being a good candidate, though I never tested it myself) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 23:56:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5EC106564A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lordi@msdi.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAA58FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:56:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from server01.msdi.local ([184.161.83.132]) by VL-VM-MR004.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTP id <0M2C00BLJAIQNB10@VL-VM-MR004.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SERVER01.msdi.local ([::1]) by server01.msdi.local ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:57:54 -0400 From: Ian Lord To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Thread-topic: Sendmail recommended permissions for apache/php server Thread-index: Ac0YPYZroDjcEr5HTNqPZobUXzbABQ== Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:57:51 +0000 Message-id: Accept-Language: en-US, fr-CA Content-language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Originating-IP: [192.168.0.151] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Sendmail recommended permissions for apache/php server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:56:51 -0000 Hi, I am trying to use sendmail to send emails from a php script (I tried phpm= ailer and mail function with the same result). I always got messages like "Could not execute: /usr/sbin/sendmail" Sendmail is World executable: # ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 Jan 3 02:57 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> /usr/sbin/= mailwrapper So I've checked into /var/log/messages and found this: Apr 11 18:09:44 dev sendmail[38340]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(www): can not chdir(/v= ar/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied I've checked permissions on the /var/spool/clientmqueue/ directory # ls -al /var/spool/clientmqueue/ drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 3 Apr 11 19:01 . So I saw that only the user and group smmsp could write to this directory. = I presumed the apache user should have access to it so I added "www" to the= "smmsp" directory. I then got a different error in /var/log/messages Apr 11 19:38:40 dev sendmail[41170]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(www): can not write to= queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=3D0, required=3D25): Pe= rmission denied I found very old threads saying to change the group of apache to "smmsp" bu= t I doubt it's a good idea. Chmodding 777 the /var/spool/clientmqueue/ fixed the problem, I can now sen= d emails, but I wonder if this is the way to fix the issue correctly. Is that the official fix or did I missed some configuration somewhere ? Sen= ding emails from php using mail or sendmail should be something working out= of the box I guess, I doubt we're supposed to change permissions to make i= t work Any help would be appreciated. Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ian Lord MSD Informatique 143 Rue des Fauvettes St-Colomban (Qu=E9bec) J5K 0E2 T=E9l: (514) 776-MSDI -> (514) 776-6734 Sans Frais: 1(877) 776-MSDI -> 1(877) 776-6734 http://www.msdi.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 00:30:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48E1065670 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA218FC08 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E2955C22 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:43:52 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F862215.8020500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:30:13 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F82BC35.6070504@bananmonarki.se> <4F82C20F.9070904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F82CA46.7000700@bananmonarki.se> <4F82CE99.2060005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F84441D.1010705@bananmonarki.se> <4F8448CD.9080906@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F85B138.4050403@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4F85B138.4050403@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:30:22 -0000 On 04/12/12 02:28, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > 2012-04-10 16:50, Da Rock skrev: >>> It gives a black screen. Vesa or not. >> >> Is that with the retro option? > > No it was not. Now I have fixed it, wife on my back so I had to fix it > quickly. Pkg_delete \* cd x11-wm/xfce4 so now it starts up without > errors. > > Thank you all for your input. Good to hear. Wives have a way of getting things done quickly, don't they? :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 00:34:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9325C106566B for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769B78FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:34:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=uN+UG7d/YoatXTk2joMmkVyQ8AeufOiQejr8MOKTRxw=; b=VhGKi8lo0vZV1O89WyjNBV10j4ObAI9G0yv22HWH1YqCNdLO0OmWft7TM+GHR9f3MrO4WLifI3BueECJjsK3LmKat3zLcFkkV/38bnH7JSnCUChL/w8bzMxPb/rbqtk1bZIgK4xqE+/BOIFpsQkKrMEhZc8++U51+hTAh2KwHqs= Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.209.140]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:34:11 -0700 Message-ID: <4F8622FF.90305@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:34:07 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2012 00:34:11.0948 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB2C6AC0:01CD1843] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: pf firewall rule numbers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:34:15 -0000 In the pf log I see the rule number of the rule used to create the log file entry. pfctl -sr command does not list the rule number of each rule it lists. So my question is how do I relate the rule number shown in the log listing back to the text rule file rules? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 01:00:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6AA106566B for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAE28FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3C10eoO063207; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:00:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4F862932.3050808@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:00:34 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 References: <4F8622FF.90305@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4F8622FF.90305@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pf firewall rule numbers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:00:42 -0000 On 4/11/2012 8:34 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > In the pf log I see the rule number of the rule used to create the log > file entry. pfctl -sr command does not list the rule number of each rule > it lists. Hi, Try pfctl -sr -vv ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 01:14:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC511065673 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE048FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570AB3C9DC; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:14:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3C1EFof002278; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:14:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:14:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Edwin L. Culp W." Message-Id: <20120412031415.85c349fd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to successfully enable HP LaserJet Professional m1212nf MFP, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:14:23 -0000 On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:17:01 -0500, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: > hpcups 3.12.2, requires proprietary plugin that seems to not be available > in the HP site. I have tried to get it using hplip-3.12.2 with no > success. I have tried with both cups and hplip and can't get it going. > Any suggestions appreciated. Maybe the official hplip-3.12.4 might work > but hasn't been updated yet. I tried to compile it but wasn't able to > adapt the patches. I have checked the printer's specification, but I can't find any mentioning about if it supports one of the standard languages PS or PCL (as one would assume for a product that HP markets as "Pro(fessional)"). However, the documentation states that it accepts PDF - so maybe you can try to feed a PDF file to the printer directly? You can use nc (netcat) to do this, I assume you already have the printer networked. I'm not sure how the other functionality relates to the network connection (or maybe it is only availabe for the local USB connection?), check the documentation that came with the printer to find out more. For example, my Samsung color laser printer (MFC) has no networking functionality, but is represented by /dev/ugen0 for the scanner part and /dev/u(n)lpt0 for the printer part. Maybe something similar is possible with your printer? I'm using that kind of setup with my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, a _real_ professional (office-class working horse) printer. It's accessed per its IP and fed PS, which is the default output format of any application that wants to print something. The printer spooler is "inside the printer" and can be queried via CUPS (and also by its command line tools). > P.D. Is there a better way to use hp equipment than cups? Yes, base system's printer spooler (lpr) that simply hands the print jobs to the printer and manages them remotely. This assumes the printer has its "internal print server" (which should be normal for anything "professional"). CUPS can also deal with that if needed, as more and more applications rely on its presence. Finally I _assume_ the printer sadly is not that professional and doesn't support a lot of standards, depending on what I found on this page: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/18972-18972-3328064-12004-3328083-3965847.html?dnr=1 Good luck anyway! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 01:49:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419321065673 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007148FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391CF3C9E1; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:49:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3C1nW7x002396; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:49:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:49:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ian Lord Message-Id: <20120412034932.b6b7de0a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Sendmail recommended permissions for apache/php server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:49:34 -0000 On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:57:51 +0000, Ian Lord wrote: > I then got a different error in /var/log/messages > Apr 11 19:38:40 dev sendmail[41170]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(www): can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0, required=25): Permission denied > > I found very old threads saying to change the group of apache > to "smmsp" but I doubt it's a good idea. No, not "change to", but you can _add_ apache (or whatever is originating the error) to the smmsp group. Add it to "smmsp:*:25:" in /etc/group. See the error message above: "can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/" Check: % ls -ld /var/spool/clientmqueue drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 512 Apr 12 03:12 /var/spool/clientmqueue/ ^^^ This directory can be read, written and entered/searched by _members_ of the smmsp group. Back to the error message: "(RunAsGid=0, required=25)" It is indicated that group #25 (smmsp) is the required GID, not 0. And: "Permission denied" which is the logical conclusion. Conclusion: You must make sure that whatever needs to access this directory is in the smmsp group (25). > Chmodding 777 the /var/spool/clientmqueue/ fixed the problem, > I can now send emails, but I wonder if this is the way to fix > the issue correctly. You souldn't need to do that. Now this directory can be modified by anyone, that's not good. > Is that the official fix or did I missed some configuration > somewhere ? Sending emails from php using mail or sendmail > should be something working out of the box I guess, I doubt > we're supposed to change permissions to make it work Correct. In regards of _security_, it's required to _allow_ the corresponding program / functionality / part of apache / mailer or whatever the access to the mail queue. This is something that is _not_ possible out of the box because there are many possi- bilities and security considerations. > Any help would be appreciated. Try to add apache (or whatever part of it, or PHP subsystem called by it that needs to access the mail queue) to the required group to give it the proper permission to do so. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 02:37:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07347106566B for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FDA8FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6F3385C22 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:50:39 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F863FCD.2060601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:37:01 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120412031415.85c349fd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120412031415.85c349fd.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to successfully enable HP LaserJet Professional m1212nf MFP, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:37:04 -0000 On 04/12/12 11:14, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:17:01 -0500, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: >> hpcups 3.12.2, requires proprietary plugin that seems to not be available >> in the HP site. I have tried to get it using hplip-3.12.2 with no >> success. I have tried with both cups and hplip and can't get it going. >> Any suggestions appreciated. Maybe the official hplip-3.12.4 might work >> but hasn't been updated yet. I tried to compile it but wasn't able to >> adapt the patches. > I have checked the printer's specification, but I can't > find any mentioning about if it supports one of the > standard languages PS or PCL (as one would assume for > a product that HP markets as "Pro(fessional)"). However, > the documentation states that it accepts PDF - so maybe > you can try to feed a PDF file to the printer directly? > You can use nc (netcat) to do this, I assume you already > have the printer networked. I'd try PCL first; the pdf reference I saw was the for the fax function, which allows you to send and receive faxes using pdf over email. The odd man in this equation is an ability to email to print (pdf I'd assume), which is handy and may be how the hpcups thing works, however that means the pdf printing would only work via email and not just a netcat (security?). May still be worth trying, but try with PCL first as it is tried and true and has been a HP standard for god knows how long :) > > I'm not sure how the other functionality relates to the > network connection (or maybe it is only availabe for the > local USB connection?), check the documentation that came > with the printer to find out more. > > For example, my Samsung color laser printer (MFC) has no > networking functionality, but is represented by /dev/ugen0 > for the scanner part and /dev/u(n)lpt0 for the printer part. > Maybe something similar is possible with your printer? > > I'm using that kind of setup with my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, > a _real_ professional (office-class working horse) printer. > It's accessed per its IP and fed PS, which is the default > output format of any application that wants to print something. > The printer spooler is "inside the printer" and can be queried > via CUPS (and also by its command line tools). > > > > > > >> P.D. Is there a better way to use hp equipment than cups? > Yes, base system's printer spooler (lpr) that simply hands > the print jobs to the printer and manages them remotely. > This assumes the printer has its "internal print server" > (which should be normal for anything "professional"). CUPS > can also deal with that if needed, as more and more applications > rely on its presence. > > Finally I _assume_ the printer sadly is not that professional > and doesn't support a lot of standards, depending on what I > found on this page: > > http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/18972-18972-3328064-12004-3328083-3965847.html?dnr=1 > > Good luck anyway! :-) > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 02:40:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C20106566C for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E6E8FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C24095C22 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:54:29 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F8640B3.5070108@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:40:51 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:40:54 -0000 On 04/11/12 21:51, Dave B wrote: > FreeBSD FBSD.67MK181QZ 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: > Wed Apr 14 22:55:09 BST 2010 > root@FBSD.67MK181QZ:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PPSGENERIC i386 > > Hi. > > I have a small FreeBSD 8.0 system (above, yes I know, not current, but it > works.) That is mainly used for timekeeping with an attached PPS equipped > GPS. No problems with that. > > It also has a small web server (Hiawatha) FTP server and SSH portal, for > my own use. > > The FTP "server" is the built-in OS based ftpd implementation, and works > well for all that I need. > > Anyway... I found a while ago, that I can tunnel connections into my > home LAN via a SSH session to my FreeBSD box, from outside the LAN using > PuTTY (on Windows XP) from wherever I am. It's been a useful dodge for > me to do that so as to VNC to other boxes that are there. The needed > SSH working port, is not the usual suspect, it's way up high, well away > from script kiddies etc. > > I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the FTP > server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when connecting this > way using a SSH tunnel. > > Over the SSH session, (using Passive Mode, with all needed ports > forwarded, plus the FTP daemon's data port usage restricted to the same > range as those tunneled.) Though the FTP process appears to work OK, > with no errors, the file sent to and deposited on the server ends up as > name only, and zero bytes in length. > > Oddly, I can successfully create a new folder on the FTP server over the > SSH session using the FTP client, and that works just fine. > > The FTP client I'm using, is the same FileZilla both times. (V3.1.0.1 I > may go look for any updates, just in case.) > > Downloading works fine regardless of how I connect, it's just uploading > that's screwey. I suspect (as usual) it's a rights issue, but even if I > su - root after the initial SSH login, it changes nothing. I'd check the ports you are forwarding over ssh. Two ports are required for ftp and it sounds like one is blocking for some reason- the control channel seems to be working fine though :) > > The FTP user is a different name from who I'm logged in as by SSH, is > that the issue? But what confuses me, is that it works from this same > PC, if it's on the home LAN, using the same FTP user credentials. > > I'm obviously lacking in my understanding of something, but what? > > I may not get to see any replies for a day or three, as I've got to head > off across country for work later, and it's not yet known if tonight's > hotel even has WiFi, or if there is decent mobile coverage where I'm > going. (Out in the Wiltshire sticks. UK, and I'm stuck with Orange.) > > Thanks in advance. > > Dave B > > -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. > Please help by visiting:- > http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball > For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 06:21:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A72106564A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from anchor-msapost-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-msapost-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838C98FC08 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [83.218.133.185] (helo=[192.168.1.67]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1SICyZ-0006Kl-o3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 05:53:47 +0000 From: "Dave B" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:53:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F866DE0.14587.F46D1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <201204111454.54957.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <201204111454.54957.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:21:55 -0000 On 11 Apr 2012 at 14:54, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Wednesday 11 April 2012, Dave B wrote: > > > I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the > > FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when > > connecting this way using a SSH tunnel. > > Would it not be simpler just to use sftp directly rather than > tunnelling ftp through ssh? > > -- > Mike Clarke Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it up on the FreeBSD box. As always, the "Manuals" though no doubt correct and complete as a "reference", are no good to people who don't already know "How To" do it. Originally, the FTP was purely for other machines at home to periodicaly dump data for some pages of the small website it also hosts. There was (is) no need for SFTP for that, as all the machines are in the same room at home. Thanks for the reply. Dave B. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 06:57:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BCC106566B for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869378FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3C6vElo046129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:57:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q3C6vElo046129 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q3C6vElo046129; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F867CC3.1090304@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:57:07 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20120411224648.378f49ec@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120411224648.378f49ec@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8501025BEB5E2C39EC08B3EA" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS and Linux binaries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:57:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8501025BEB5E2C39EC08B3EA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/04/2012 22:46, RW wrote: >=20 > What's the explanation for this: >=20 >=20 > $ ldd /usr/compat/linux/bin/pwd > /usr/compat/linux/bin/pwd: > /tmp >=20 > $ LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=3D1 /usr/compat/linux/bin/pwd > libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28076000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x28050000) >=20 > From what I've read ldd works through setting LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS, > and neither form should work on a linux binary. You might find the audit trail in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dbin/127276 interesting. There's a patch in there that makes the stock ldd(1) generate reasonable output for Linux binaries, although it seems not to be getting much love from anyone willing to commit it. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig8501025BEB5E2C39EC08B3EA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+GfMkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwWGQCdE4IY6vN6mqRmfi9YIWNuGqaR GyQAn2Sv1tKYT2Sxi+2hrASVN20yOsyo =WKUG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8501025BEB5E2C39EC08B3EA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 07:17:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463F6106566B for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A018FC15 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3C7HXDl046463 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:17:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q3C7HXDl046463 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q3C7HXDl046463; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F86818D.8000402@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:17:33 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20120412034932.b6b7de0a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120412034932.b6b7de0a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF7FC9B72ED933C8B91998EDA" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: Sendmail recommended permissions for apache/php server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:17:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF7FC9B72ED933C8B91998EDA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/04/2012 02:49, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:57:51 +0000, Ian Lord wrote: >> > I then got a different error in /var/log/messages >> > Apr 11 19:38:40 dev sendmail[41170]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(www): can not w= rite to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=3D0, required=3D= 25): Permission denied >> > I found very old threads saying to change the group of apache >> > to "smmsp" but I doubt it's a good idea. > No, not "change to", but you can _add_ apache (or whatever is > originating the error) to the smmsp group. Add it to "smmsp:*:25:" > in /etc/group. You should not be changing the ownership and permissions on any of the directories used by sendmail(8), or the group membership of any of the groups used by sendmail. Not even if you think you know what you are doing. This is extremely security sensitive, and getting it wrong means at minimum unprivileged users can forge e-mails untraceably[*]. There is no reason for apache to have any sort of write permissions to /var/spool/clientmqueue -- that should only be accessible to sendmail, and sendmail is the only program that should ever use it. To the OP -- can you execute sendmail outside PHP? If you can use mail(1) to send a test e-mail, then sendmail should be fine. Note: test this as an unprivileged user. What are the permissions on /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail ? They should look like this: % ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 662136 Apr 1 08:38 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail If that all checks out, then the problem is with PHP rather than your sendmail installation. There are several different ways PHP might be programmed to send e-mail; perhaps you could describe how your particular application tries to do it? Cheers, Matthew [*] So what? you might think. Until you get an e-mail request from your boss to provide sensitive information to some contractor you don't really know. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigF7FC9B72ED933C8B91998EDA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+GgY0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyl/gCfdqlXlOaKQAVT0JpMj0vuf8zo IF0AnjfvZuWkMBIwoe7Uq5xgE7Bm1dOf =4UKG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF7FC9B72ED933C8B91998EDA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 07:32:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EB8106566B for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@fstaals.net) Received: from isp-bos-01.edutel.nl (isp-bos-01.edutel.nl [88.159.1.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF2A8FC08 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (unknown [10.115.3.120]) by isp-bos-01.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDEB2BC417; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:32:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D10F394292; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:32:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at isp-aos-02.edutel.intern Received: from isp-aos-02.edutel.intern ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (isp-aos-02.edutel.intern [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ICA3GbeoIs9k; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:32:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lacus.fstaals.net (104-208.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl [88.159.208.104]) by isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9AAC83942B1; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:32:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lacus.fstaals.net (unknown [192.168.10.14]) by filter.fstaals.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E294F7F4FB7; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dyn-81-93.cs.uu.nl [131.211.81.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: frank) by lacus.fstaals.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFD077F4086; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:32:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Frank Staals To: "Dave B" References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <201204111454.54957.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <4F866DE0.14587.F46D1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> User-Mail-Address: frank@fstaals.net Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:32:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4F866DE0.14587.F46D1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> (Dave B.'s message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:53:36 +0100") Message-ID: <87obqx2yo5.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:32:49 -0000 "Dave B" writes: > Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it up > on the FreeBSD box. As always, the "Manuals" though no doubt correct and > complete as a "reference", are no good to people who don't already know > "How To" do it. There is not much to set up. Just make sure you have sshd running. You can then just sftp (or any other client that supports sftp) to connect to port 22, or whatever port sshd is listening on. Regards, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 07:51:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02B4106566B; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03EE8FC0A; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2B41E75F; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:51:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3C7p9WV004046; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:51:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:51:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthew Seaman Message-Id: <20120412095109.63ce0715.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F86818D.8000402@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120412034932.b6b7de0a.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F86818D.8000402@FreeBSD.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail recommended permissions for apache/php server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:51:14 -0000 On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:17:33 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 12/04/2012 02:49, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:57:51 +0000, Ian Lord wrote: > >> > I then got a different error in /var/log/messages > >> > Apr 11 19:38:40 dev sendmail[41170]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(www): can not write to queue directory /var/spool/clientmqueue/ (RunAsGid=0, required=25): Permission denied > > >> > I found very old threads saying to change the group of apache > >> > to "smmsp" but I doubt it's a good idea. > > > No, not "change to", but you can _add_ apache (or whatever is > > originating the error) to the smmsp group. Add it to "smmsp:*:25:" > > in /etc/group. > > You should not be changing the ownership and permissions on any of the > directories used by sendmail(8), or the group membership of any of the > groups used by sendmail. Not even if you think you know what you are > doing. This is extremely security sensitive, and getting it wrong means > at minimum unprivileged users can forge e-mails untraceably[*]. You're right - as long as sendmail works properly (and is invoked by whatever means sends e-mail out of apache / PHP), the present group settings and permissions should be okay. Sendmail will then properly run "as the smmsp group member" which will enable it to properly access the queue directory. > There is no reason for apache to have any sort of write permissions to > /var/spool/clientmqueue -- that should only be accessible to sendmail, > and sendmail is the only program that should ever use it. I'm not aware of why a program should directly access the mail queues, but maybe that's a "special" PHP feature. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 09:29:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1351D1065674 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74BE8FC16 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E47214E96A0; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:29:03 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 hp9.esiee.fr 8E47214E96A0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=esiee.fr; s=MAILOUT; t=1334222943; bh=HFhhj92ZmkEbat+icZtUHQdEEj85OB9A457Mil7OfiQ=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To; b=pBqACfGQGCn3IoKPSRgXW88Kz0p6liAGYCP+ICZPcUH4e+A9u88ExQFxpzNkzYA9H NMaqDzdTdTETvhHToEDyFiJ7lU3fJgxR/oCdl0gYRUAYZrFUwVSkkOaFo+y/fbeTfV q69lHMJEkDHhphLD6l8Yq7Oyopp/idTvbFtSRkwA= Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 737B43C4F16; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:29:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps.esiee.fr (privftp.esiee.fr [147.215.1.190]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C7C3C4F21; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:29:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.2.97.50] (unknown [90.84.144.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by smtps.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1090BA7D423; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:29:03 +0200 (CEST) References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <201204111454.54957.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <4F866DE0.14587.F46D1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <87obqx2yo5.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> In-Reply-To: <87obqx2yo5.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B176) From: Frank Bonnet Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:28:57 +0200 To: Frank Staals Cc: Dave B , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:29:05 -0000 why not ftp over TLS ? like proftpd or pure-ftpd can do ? Envoy=C3=A9 de mon iPhone. Le 12 avr. 2012 =C3=A0 09:32, Frank Staals a =C3=A9crit := > "Dave B" writes: >=20 >> Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it up=20= >> on the FreeBSD box. As always, the "Manuals" though no doubt correct and= =20 >> complete as a "reference", are no good to people who don't already know=20= >> "How To" do it. >=20 > There is not much to set up. Just make sure you have sshd running. You > can then just sftp (or any other client that supports sftp) to connect > to port 22, or whatever port sshd is listening on.=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > --=20 >=20 > - Frank > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 10:00:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767651065673 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98A48FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3CA0GsT015065 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:00:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q3CA0GsT015065 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1334224817; bh=yjxrin/Eb1P/3LqTRPTO1cm0Vyqcm0eGKD166KPHyek=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=qlVTysyBWaBqtDZ2Dr29zwmSRj0g4hexHr+u0SjDy3HEl9F8Rao58F6pByWMVBKO4 JULVgLZyuCh4isSMglpp64y2xMIX8GN6a8SyONh8w5dQYPkk6CdVM7h/SGlfRrvSEw txB9izgJqKJUfXKX4sWvjRuWbv5vsu4Ruf27jLwY= Message-ID: <4F86A7AA.2040409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:00:10 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <201204111454.54957.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <4F866DE0.14587.F46D1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <87obqx2yo5.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD25BA809F515079ED2D899F9" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:00:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD25BA809F515079ED2D899F9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/04/2012 10:28, Frank Bonnet wrote: > why not ftp over TLS ? like proftpd or pure-ftpd can do ? Because it is pretty much impossible to firewall securely. Either you don't encrypt the control channel or you have to give any firewalls between you and your destination keys to be able to decrypt the traffic (in which case you might just as well not bother encrypting it at all) or you have to open up a whole load of ports to accept incoming traffic ('you' being typically the FTP server admin for PASV mode FTP; otherwise, you'ld need to do similarly on the client for active mode FTP.) FTP is fundamentally broken and simply encasing it in a layer of encryption only exacerbates the fundamental flaws. The FTP protocol is an archaic remnant of some mythical golden age of the internet when you could generally trust anyone else with access to the net[*]. Given what the past 40 years or so have shown us about the realities of global networking, it is high time that it was obsoleted and the world switched to some of the many better alternatives that have since been developed. * HTTP -- obviously works fine for download. It can support upload too: there's a little-used PUT command, or you can use such things as WEBDAV. Easy to run over TLS by using HTTPS. * RSYNC -- has an anonymous mode which works fine for generic downloads. For authenticated access defaults to ssh(1) for all traffic. * SFTP or SCP -- for those who are unwilling or unable to contemplate using anything other than an FTP client, SFTP will pose as one, while still properly securing all your traffic. SCP is (IMHO) a nicer interface for general day-to-day copying stuff between machines though. Cheers, Matthew [*] Believe it or not, at one time it was generally accepted that mail servers should be configured as open relays. This was so that if your own mailserver was playing up, you could easily borrow a neighbours server to send messages. 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charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: How to set Password Change Time in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:25:51 -0000 DQpEZWFycywNClRvIGZvcmNlIGxvY2FsIHVzZXIgaW4gRnJlZUJTRCBzeXN0ZW0gY2hhbmdpbmcg dGhlaXIgcGFzc3dvcmQgcGVyaW9kaWNhbGx5LA0KSSB3YW50IHRvIHNldCBQYXNzd29yZCBDaGFu Z2UgVGltZS4gSSB0cmllZCB0aGUgZm9sbG93aW5nIHR3byB3YXlzLCBidXQNCmJvdGggZmFpbGVk LiBDb3VsZCB5b3UgcGxlYXNlIGdpdmUgbWUgdGhlIGNvcnJlY3Qgb3BlcmF0aW9ucz8gVGhhbmtz IGEgbG90IQ0KDQpNZXRob2QgMToNCkFkZGVkIHBhc3N3b3JkdGltZT0ybSB0byAvZXRjL2xvZ2lu LmNvbmYsIHRoZW4gcnVuIHRoZSBjb21tYW5kDQpjYXBfbWtkYiAvZXRjL2xvZ2luLmNvbmYuDQpS ZXN1bHQ6IHBhc3N3b3JkIG9mIGFueSB1c2VyIHdhcyBub3QgZXhwaXJlZCBhZnRlciB0d28gbWlu dXRlcy4NCg0KTWV0aG9kIDI6DQpSdW4gdGhlIGNvbW1hbmQgcHcgdXNlcm1vZCByb290IC1wIDJt DQpSZXN1bHQ6IHBhc3N3b3JkIG9mIHJvb3Qgd2FzIGV4cGlyZWQgYWZ0ZXIgdHdvIG1pbnV0ZXMu IEJ1dCBhZnRlciBJIGNoYW5nZWQNCml0IG9uZSB0aW1lLCBpdCB3b3VsZCBiZSBuZXZlciBleHBp cmVkIGFnYWluLg0KDQpNeSBzeXN0ZW0gaW5mbzoNCjcuMy1SRUxFQVNFDQoNCkJlc3QgUmVnYXJk cywNCkp1biBMaSBaaGFvICjV1L+hwPYpDQpTbWFydCBCdXNpbmVzcyBEZXNrdG9wIG9uIElCTSBD bG91ZCwgSUJNIENoaW5hIERldmVsb3BtZW50IExhYihDREwpDQpFbWFpbDogemhhb2psaUBjbi5p Ym0uY29tICAgIFBob25lOiArODYxMC04MjQ1MjEyMA0KQWRkcmVzczogRGlhbW9uZCBCIEJsZGcu ICMxOSBCdWlsZGluZywgWmhvbmcgR3VhbiBDdW4gU29mdHdhcmUgUGFyaywgIzgNCkRvbmcgQmVp IFdhbmcgV2VzdCBSb2FkLCBTaGFuZ0RpLCBIYWlkaWFuIERpc3RyaWN0LCBCZWlqaW5nLA0KUC5S LkNoaW5hLDEwMDE5Mw== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 12:10:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CC5106564A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84748FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3CCADDo017436 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:10:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q3CCADDo017436 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q3CCADDo017436; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F86C61E.2000100@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:10:06 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDD133275794A4C963C2A8B28" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: How to set Password Change Time in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:10:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDD133275794A4C963C2A8B28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/04/2012 10:15, Jun Li BJ Zhao wrote: > To force local user in FreeBSD system changing their password periodica= lly, > I want to set Password Change Time. I tried the following two ways, but= > both failed. Could you please give me the correct operations? Thanks a = lot! >=20 > Method 1: > Added passwordtime=3D2m to /etc/login.conf, then run the command > cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf. > Result: password of any user was not expired after two minutes. This just sets the default password expiry. If you created a new account after doing this, it should have the password expiry behaviour you expect. > Method 2: > Run the command pw usermod root -p 2m > Result: password of root was expired after two minutes. But after I cha= nged > it one time, it would be never expired again. Method 1 is what you want to use to set a system-wide password expiry policy, and Method 2 is one way of applying that policy to existing accounts. You need to modify /etc/master.passwd to enable the policy on existing accounts after setting up /etc/login.conf . There are two master.passwd fields that control this functionality: Field 5: the users' class -- which entry in /etc/login.conf applies for this account. By default this is empty, which means 'use the default class.' Field 6: the time that account password must next be changed, given as a standard seconds-since-the-epoch unix time. If zero, then the password never expires. So to set the policy, decide on a login class for all your real users, add them to it, configure the class with your preferred password lifetime, then modify master.passwd to set the time when the first password change should happen for all existing accounts ('pw usermod -p time' is a way of dong that. Or you could just edit master.passwd directly if you want to set this in bulk.) With the login.conf policy in place passwd(1) should reset the 6th field appropriately next time the password is changed. The root account is special as regards this functionality. Try using an unprivileged account for testing purposes. Cheers Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigDD133275794A4C963C2A8B28 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAk+GxiUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyhhgCYrSXtR7n9az7tsGMEydxobyEP ZQCeMC+Ii3WFiXbNwi9drZ/GumhAaJk= =NE90 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDD133275794A4C963C2A8B28-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 12:25:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41838106564A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101E18FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:25:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=KlC8AOMGGOwcpjH/dWrbxLQPurG8LkesIHa+oGvfIe0=; b=PAAsAEpp20LN8FwwzucM6NLm5pPYwv0j85z8bbJCJz0QvT5IkkIp6G0lE4A8v6nyfx6OYc3JuszOcUMY17JLSNVlkLpEL3CnZ43TbNMOSOnCWWaiiDQnqqGq7BT1YK4s9ibJLmLfgQ+GVLMvSObGAE1fUF7wxDj1oP6eOdM1b9o= Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.217.61]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 05:25:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4F86C9AE.3000505@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:25:18 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa References: <4F8622FF.90305@a1poweruser.com> <4F862932.3050808@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <4F862932.3050808@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2012 12:25:18.0118 (UTC) FILETIME=[52314C60:01CD18A7] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pf firewall rule numbers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:25:19 -0000 Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 4/11/2012 8:34 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: >> In the pf log I see the rule number of the rule used to create the log >> file entry. pfctl -sr command does not list the rule number of each rule >> it lists. > > Hi, > > Try pfctl -sr -vv > > ---Mike > Thanks the -vv printed the rule number with the rule. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 13:13:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9373106566C for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabrielmarchi@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC288FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcmm1 with SMTP id m1so1859602vcm.13 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:13:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=0/NoJpKJExTihAruVVexpsVR/g1dKDpq3KxU2qdaAk4=; b=f3XQMVw5VT2L1ObxqebCg09B0JQu50Y7dO1tXO4+Q74XUSN8eRiHbY957k+EtxP4lV nFXyOnt/BVAVQcUrnr/vASeQDr1HKdOZ27Q+i7f2l/AFbdOuPShimNtcoleHo8J1Bvyr IZMWPIYHYX5rivHdUDBrm4vM2ZWMZ0LdNbb9scwIgvCh3F5ubiDg7S7bhWK+N4uH6G8E BIn28WKld2JBXIbFzrdAL4JSbYgcdJ+WtSuEu1jne/KZwFAbpwcUTePigiNuVEKKnF1s j9YpK5mA/B53gI93JIixVGIdVbaMi6WwoYMtJCfpar2QgkZvJccBSV6zk+raJuFQbPqq 3F2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.221.1.8 with SMTP id no8mr1262909vcb.25.1334236380801; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.34.51 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:13:00 -0300 Message-ID: From: Gabriel Marchi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk08iE6qU/jdgXwPkbBt2aCVj7x78XJI2NU208/BrCC3E1eb8MHQ6cQKKhG2P8v8kohaBYi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:13:01 -0000 Hi all, I=B4m running 9.0-RELEASE on my laptop, everything works fine, except when = I try go back to console I get a black screen. dmesg: http://pastebin.com/U45duS5n xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/qERavJs0 Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/143m0gWB pciconf: http://pastebin.com/ZfQ6daGC Thanks in advance. Gabriel Marchi * * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 13:39:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8092106566C; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lordi@msdi.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D0A8FC0A; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:39:35 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Received: from server01.msdi.local ([184.161.83.132]) by VL-VM-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTP id <0M2D00J4XCLT83C0@VL-VM-MR005.ip.videotron.ca>; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SERVER01.msdi.local ([::1]) by server01.msdi.local ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:40:32 -0400 From: Ian Lord To: 'Matthew Seaman' Thread-topic: Sendmail recommended permissions for apache/php server Thread-index: Ac0YPYZroDjcEr5HTNqPZobUXzbABQAMoH8AAA/4X9A= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:40:32 +0000 Message-id: References: <20120412034932.b6b7de0a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-reply-to: <20120412034932.b6b7de0a.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US, fr-CA Content-language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Originating-IP: [192.168.0.151] Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Sendmail recommended permissions for apache/php server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:39:35 -0000 >You should not be changing the ownership and permissions on any of the >directories used by sendmail(8), or the group membership of any of the >groups used by sendmail. Not even if you think you know what you are >doing. This is extremely security sensitive, and getting it wrong means >at minimum unprivileged users can forge e-mails untraceably[*]. That's what I thought, I found it to work but preferred to ask on the list = since it didn't make sense to me :) >To the OP -- can you execute sendmail outside PHP? If you can use >mail(1) to send a test e-mail, then sendmail should be fine. Note: test >this as an unprivileged user. No it doesn't work, just tried it: %mail -s Hello lordi@msdi.ca Hello ! . EOT %WARNING: RunAsUser for MSP ignored, check group ids (egid=3D0, want=3D25) can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser. Apr 12 08:47:08 dev sendmail[94980]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(msdi): can not chdir(/= var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied >What are the permissions on /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail ? They should >look like this: >% ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail >-r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 662136 Apr 1 08:38 >/usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail # ls -al /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail -r-xr-sr-x 1 root wheel 707160 Jan 3 02:57 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendma= il So the group is wrong... I changed it from wheel to smmsp and everything wo= rks fine now ! Thanks a lot for the fix, but this server is a clean install of 9.0-RELEASE= that I installed about 2-3 months ago. I never changed the permission myse= lf on that file so I guess there is something wrong that would need to be f= ixed (unless it's already fixed in newer versions). Thanks again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ian Lord MSD Informatique 143 Rue des Fauvettes St-Colomban=A0(Qu=E9bec) J5K 0E2 T=E9l: (514) 776-MSDI=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 -> (514) 776-6= 734 Sans Frais: 1(877) 776-MSDI -> 1(877) 776-6734 http://www.msdi.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 14:12:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1491065679 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621BF8FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3CECLsT019397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:12:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q3CECLsT019397 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q3CECLsT019397; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F86E2BE.50807@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:12:14 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Lord References: <20120412034932.b6b7de0a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCC193BE846042AF33AB3D30F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Sendmail recommended permissions for apache/php server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:12:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCC193BE846042AF33AB3D30F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/04/2012 14:40, Ian Lord wrote: >> What are the permissions on /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail ? They shou= ld >> >look like this: >> >% ls -la /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail >> >-r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 662136 Apr 1 08:38 >> >/usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail > # ls -al /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail > -r-xr-sr-x 1 root wheel 707160 Jan 3 02:57 /usr/libexec/sendmail/se= ndmail >=20 > So the group is wrong... I changed it from wheel to smmsp and > everything works fine now ! >=20 > Thanks a lot for the fix, but this server is a clean install of > 9.0-RELEASE that I installed about 2-3 months ago. I never changed the > permission myself on that file so I guess there is something wrong that= > would need to be fixed (unless it's already fixed in newer versions). I haven't had any similar problems on 9.0 systems I've installed so I don't think it is an obvious and universal bug in the system installer. It might be the case that you did something differently -- if you can reproduce the effect, and if it's not by doing something daft like 'oh, and here is where we recursively chgrp the whole filesystem for no apparent reason' then please do send a PR with the details. If you want to ensure that almost everything has the correct ownership and permissions, then you can use mtree(8). eg. # cd / # mtree -Ue -f /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist # mtree -Ue -f /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist # cd /usr # mtree -Ue -f /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist # cd /usr/include # mtree -Ue -f /etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist # cd /var # mtree -Ue -f /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist =2E.. although now I come to look at it, this won't actually fix the grou= p ownership on /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail for example. For that, you'ld probably have to use the system sources or the installation media.= Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigCC193BE846042AF33AB3D30F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+G4sUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz2jgCcDutdUr+qjU5ORlRcm1pHIorG SUoAnR2NrKXS8bFON+CwqQjBoVoxD70o =VqOl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCC193BE846042AF33AB3D30F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 14:13:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E62D1065677 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C715A8FC20 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so1950228vbm.13 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:13:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=zr+dXDhBH8VI1uk9nH44PO4faW8EcKOC+Rnq1IB6EIQ=; b=cK98CUD1tVxUz2CIOuH9mqwqxXEz1p+3+ssKlBIFBmqWMwxOqGXn+MnnJu7xM5hi1G TUlMBpeCnjejoeEEbEb3CQ1FaHgvBQhk9hWEM/PrnlNdyjPGPAaYMOG1ZHngaaFs9cTF 4xyGIl4QRwbCCcmXnCqIp3CO6hNA/EJ6S6jKHMogK0C7u0Vq/lyTuSBRVq4OjiHJdfJt C6nN8bp7JExkrjqL2lFKqDsK7gFDb9tXHVj2Vjoop6SGHU4AX26eAjB+NzSevYhA9SWf wv3LmRi+K5u7AjNAIAkX4ay4SIkyydwSIXB+9uc3UPvv8aY8F/qbGAqlleJkoPPyweFm o/WA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.94.233 with SMTP id df9mr1049373vdb.119.1334239991908; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.42 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:13:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <505981334167684@web133.yandex.ru> References: <505981334167684@web133.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:13:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: Damien Fleuriot To: KES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkySZTY70HIevfkKyYRw6fjSG82NVwh+VrgMILAXgUY+ezGOmfNTdg9kzlTng+Nli58qbnr Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Problem with vlans on igb (was: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:13:13 -0000 Try disabling hardware VLAN tagging like so, I know we had problems a few years back with it. in /etc/rc.conf : ifconfig_igb2=3D" -vlanhwtag -tso -lro up" 2012/4/11 KES : > > > -------- =F0=C5=D2=C5=D3=D9=CC=C1=C5=CD=CF=C5 =D3=CF=CF=C2=DD=C5=CE=C9=C5= =9A-------- > 11.04.2012, 13:14, "KES" : > > 10.04.2012, 08:50, "Da Rock" : > >> =9AOn 04/10/12 05:02, =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA wrote: >>> =9A=9AYes, I have tested. >>> =9A=9Aand on this hardware on this OS it works from =9AFri Feb 24 17:07= :48 UTC 2012 >>> =9A=9Abut last two days: >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9AMon Apr =9A9 19:50 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9AMon Apr =9A9 18:30 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 20:55 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 20:00 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 19:49 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 17:43 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 10:58 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASat Apr =9A7 21:13 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASat Apr =9A7 16:37 >>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASat Apr =9A7 16:07 >>> >>> =9A=9AI remembered. One thing changed. >>> =9A=9AI add vlans to igb2, but no traffic flow on that devices yet. >> =9APerhaps you should test removing the vlans and see if things improve? > > I have removed vlans, two day server works without reboots > >>> =9A=9ABefore this I have use: igb0, igb1, igb3 >>> =9A=9Aigb0@pci0:1:0:0: =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0x0= 0018086 chip=3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Avendor =9A=9A=9A=9A=3D 'Intel Corporation' >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=3D network >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Asubclass =9A=9A=3D ethernet >>> =9A=9Aigb1@pci0:1:0:1: =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0x0= 0018086 chip=3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Avendor =9A=9A=9A=9A=3D 'Intel Corporation' >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=3D network >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Asubclass =9A=9A=3D ethernet >>> =9A=9Aigb2@pci0:1:0:2: =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0x0= 0018086 chip=3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Avendor =9A=9A=9A=9A=3D 'Intel Corporation' >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=3D network >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Asubclass =9A=9A=3D ethernet >>> =9A=9Aigb3@pci0:1:0:3: =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0x0= 0018086 chip=3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Avendor =9A=9A=9A=9A=3D 'Intel Corporation' >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=3D network >>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Asubclass =9A=9A=3D ethernet >>> >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan100=3D"inet =9A192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 100 vlandev igb2" #nALL >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan101=3D"inet =9A192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 101 vlandev igb2" #n2 p24 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan102=3D"inet =9A192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 102 vlandev igb2" #n1 p23 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan103=3D"inet =9A192.168.3.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 103 vlandev igb2" #n3 p22 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan104=3D"inet =9A192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 104 vlandev igb2" #n7,9 p21 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan105=3D"inet =9A192.168.5.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 105 vlandev igb2" #n11 p20 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan106=3D"inet =9A192.168.6.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 106 vlandev igb2" #n13 p19 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan107=3D"inet =9A192.168.7.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 107 vlandev igb2" #n223 p18 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan108=3D"inet =9A192.168.8.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 108 vlandev igb2" #n225 p17 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan109=3D"inet =9A192.168.9.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 109 vlandev igb2" #n221 p16 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan110=3D"inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan = 110 vlandev igb2" #n229 p15 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan111=3D"inet 192.168.11.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan = 111 vlandev igb2" #n233 p14 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan112=3D"inet 192.168.12.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan = 112 vlandev igb2" #n231 p13 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan113=3D"inet 192.168.13.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan = 113 vlandev igb2" #n237 p12 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan114=3D"inet 192.168.14.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan = 114 vlandev igb2" #n424 p11 >>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan115=3D"inet 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan = 115 vlandev igb2" # >>> >>> =9A=9APAP> =9ANothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /va= r/crash >>> =9A=9APAP> =9Awould indicate to me some sort of hardware related proble= m. >>> =9A=9APAP> =9AHave you tested your hardware lately and know that it is = in operational order? >>> >>> =9A=9APAP> =9A~Paul >>> >>> =9A=9APAP> =9AOn Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??????? ???????= wrote: >>>>> =9A=9AHi. >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, = CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK >>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: >>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: >>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; = RUN fsck MANUALLY. >>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FL= AG >>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 20:09:22 kernel: >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9Arunning manually: >>>>> =9A=9A# fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e >>>>> =9A=9A** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) >>>>> =9A=9A** Last Mounted on /tmp >>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames >>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity >>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts >>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >>>>> =9A=9A99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% fr= agmentation) >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9AServer reboot two or three time per day >>>>> =9A=9A# uname -a >>>>> =9A=9AFreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881: = Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 =9A=9A=9A=9Aadm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_= KERN_v8 =9Aamd64 >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9Abefore this it works about month without problems >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9A/var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any messag= es before crash. >>>>> =9A=9ACan any help to fix problem? 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If you do not wish to receive further newsletters, you may unsubscribe by clicking Here From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 15:23:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303901065670 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.trifonidis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42D38FC08 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbgj3 with SMTP id gj3so2164082lbb.13 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:23:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Py7IxVfHRzNrEFEyJZ5IHrT+fHjP/hTnwohK28Jh8m4=; b=E0LNAHjNK6Q85wHNS7FQ7Aona1NHmfsqBjOp9QACqs465SuH6NdLhNPTuIK7AAVy48 AqYyHb7PYN4Sssk04WQEnwFiTkdaTuH4CLJnqRPqILVLlYzVX1utN7FyBb+XGlEZrQT5 1HKpSuGlyQ0U9ABq66gBa7FzWkZ0uVyGzI6/UBrXOIst9L7k26BP4qTV9DRdSk51R4K4 CrpkcXc7t7IHDwx090dVInuZEPXDUQtBg0SqbV586SDDe8bT4/P9OSW2FOziQIZjzLvN xZhF5FEFFWnOJwbFxjF5GLshQIwS685T8NknU6sb9lvCtGSKj6+EIUQHqqvGnxjdYpPa nnLQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.109 with SMTP id gd13mr2623591lab.9.1334244202492; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.147.136 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:23:22 +0000 Message-ID: From: Eugene Tryfonides To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: real-time priority jackd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:23:29 -0000 Hello there, i really want your help on this matter.So. i create a group audio and fix conf file at /etc/security/limit.d/limits.conf i can open jackd as root with real-time prio but not as regular user. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 15:52:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFDF106564A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (smtprelay04.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF6D8FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [109.85.27.125] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1SIMEf-0004Ov-6S; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:47:01 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:46:57 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" Message-ID: <20120412174657.5c9909bc@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <20120410210717.3e65b9a9@dijkstra.cruwe.de> References: <20120409180730.08dfe9bb@dijkstra.cruwe.de> <4F835F10.4000207@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120410210717.3e65b9a9@dijkstra.cruwe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/oWXrQsBkR5orHYaeS21CFP."; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zpool creation on geli failed with FreeBSD-9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:52:07 -0000 --Sig_/oWXrQsBkR5orHYaeS21CFP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Christopher J. Ruwe" wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:13:36 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: >=20 > > On 04/10/12 02:07, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > > > I was trying to install FreeBSD 9.0 using a geli encrypted disk and > > > ZFS on my ThinkPad R500 this weekend. I failed. > > > > > > Having sucessfully initialized the geli part and having attached the > > > provider, my attempt to create a zpool on the geli section thus > > > > > > $> zpool create ntank /dev/ada0p2.eli > > > > > > failed with the message > > > > > > Cannot create 'ntank': invalid argument for this pool operation. > > > > > > I could not convince the system to create the zpool on the geli > > > part, so I gave up and created the zpool on the unencrypted > > > partition instead to have a working machine for the week. I would, > > > however, like to have my data on an encrypted partition though. Has > > > anyone witnessed and resolved this issue or does anyone have other > > > ideas? I have never seen this error message and its meaning isn't obvious to me either (which is why I didn't comment earlier, before Da Rock "provoked" me). You could try truss'ing the operating to see what is actually going on. You could also try to see if it makes a difference if you put a label on top of the eli geom and try to create the pool on that. > > Someone using ZFS will be able to verify this, but from my > > understanding ZFS runs on the hardware and you can *possibly* put > > geli on top of ZFS. While you can indeed put geli on a ZFS volume, putting the ZFS pool on geli is supposed to work as well and does work for me: fk@r500 ~ $zpool status tank pool: tank state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 3h1m with 0 errors on Sun Mar 25 20:47:28 2012 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0s1d.eli ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors The pool was created with a command rather similar to the one used by Christopher: fk@r500 ~ $sudo zpool history | head -n 2 History for 'tank': 2009-08-09.02:53:52 zpool create tank ad4s1d.eli While I'm using this pool on a 10.0-CURRENT system, the pool worked with previous FreeBSD versions in the past. I currently have no 9.0 system to test with. Here's a more recently created pool where the eli is on a label: fk@r500 ~ $zpool status lexmark pool: lexmark state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h2m with 0 errors on Sun Mar 11 22:10:49 2012 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM lexmark ONLINE 0 0 0 label/lexmark.eli ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors fk@r500 ~ $sudo zpool history lexmark | head -n 2 History for 'lexmark': 2012-02-04.13:41:05 zpool create lexmark /dev/label/lexmark.eli This is the configuration I usually use for external devices, as it makes automatically importing the pool easier. While this configuration is known to trigger bugs under certain conditions, I don't know for sure that using less geoms would actually help: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dkern/162010 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dkern/162036 > > You can put geom on ZFS but not the other way around. Except for test pools, I always use geoms as vdevs. This has been working (for me) since I started using ZFS shortly after Pawel imported it. > I had a zpool on a geli on FreeBSD-8.0 to 8.2 and > 8-stable. I opted for a complete reinstall of 9.0 instead of upgrading > due to issues with xmonad, which I did not understand then. I am > "furious" at my decision now that I have seen that a update would > possibly have been much easier than to reinstall, had I at that time > understood what was causing problems with xmonad. Do you know if you used the same zpool command and the same vdev in the past? Fabian --Sig_/oWXrQsBkR5orHYaeS21CFP. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk+G+PQACgkQBYqIVf93VJ2uVgCeIgRXm7bc4OWPZSwEuVMoOaox +rYAnikUMoeFPPDRf/XOEaNzE7lGhnvW =A4RO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/oWXrQsBkR5orHYaeS21CFP.-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 19:16:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7237B1065670 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tmp@patishnock.com) Received: from server61.fastdnsservers.com (server61.fastdnsservers.com [216.51.232.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0648FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.shanje.com ([127.0.0.1]:51279 helo=patishnock.com) by server61.fastdnsservers.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SIOht-00063n-86 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:25:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:25:21 -0500 From: tmp@patishnock.com To: Message-ID: <1793a2341ee6097b468f44c38424f744@patishnock.com> X-Sender: tmp@patishnock.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.7.1 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server61.fastdnsservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - patishnock.com Subject: Keyboard Input Vanishes Seconds After Loading GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:16:46 -0000 I am experiencing a most peculiar problem upon loading the GNOME desktop on a brand new install of FreeBSD v9.0 RELEASE. So far, I have Installed the FreeBSD v9.0 RELEASE operating system for the x86-64 platform Installed xorg Installed gnome2 In order to enable both the loading of xorg and gnome(2), I have edited my /etc/rc.conf file. Here is what cat reports: #cat /etc/rc.conf hostname= "Mephisto" ifconfig_re0="DHCP" sshd_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" #Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="NO" hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" gnome_enable="YES" gdm_enable="YES" After entering in my password at the GNOME GDM login, I am able to get to my desktop and have access to my programs. However, if I were to open say Gedit and type for any period of time, my keyboard input will disappear and I will either be unable to type anything or it will infinitely type the last character I typed (e.g. the letter "k"). Has anyone else faced this situation and if so, how do I go about solving this? Thank you very much for taking the time to read my request. Sincerely, Timothy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 20:07:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698DC106564A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rg.lists@rzweb.com) Received: from flabnapple.net (flabnapple.net [216.129.104.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564E98FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.flabnapple.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flabnapple.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEB41CC07E for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:01:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:01:10 -0700 From: Ron To: Message-ID: <606a3fb9c92576166ef1af20bc4a906a@flabnapple2.net> X-Sender: rg.lists@rzweb.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.7 Subject: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:07:30 -0000 I'm having a couple of issues with postfix and courier-imap on my new machine and I'm trying to figure out what is different from my old machine. I've checked every config file I think of and they both seem to be set up the same. Here are the two issues: If I send email from a local user (while SSH'd in using the command line mail) to another local user (mail todd@mysite.com) on the same machine, but using the full email address, I get the following error and the email bounced back: 553 5.3.5 mail.mysite.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error The only thing I can think of is that mysite.com and mail.mysite.com (the mx record) do not point to the same server (which they did on my old machine). I have also tried everything I can think of in how users are listed in postfix's virtual file and in /etc/aliases and server entries in main.cf. The second issue is if (again, SSH'd in an using mail) I send email to a local user without the @mysite.com (mail todd) then the email isn't available via IMAP externally. I can read it using the command line mail, but not externally via IMAP. These two mailboxs are completely separate and have two different lists of waiting email. Everything works fine if I send email from a remote client (Thunderbird, Mail.app) and read the email with a remote client via IMAP. It's just the local email sending that seems to be broken. I'd like to get one of these two problems fixed so root can email me daily log files, which it can't do right now or I can't read via IMAP because they are't going to the right mailbox. Is there some simple I'm just messing up? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 20:16:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6681065745 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com [17.158.161.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCA58FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:16:06 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M2D00HCOUYGV550@nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:15:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-04-12_05:2012-04-12, 2012-04-12, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1204120241 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <606a3fb9c92576166ef1af20bc4a906a@flabnapple2.net> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:15:51 -0700 Message-id: References: <606a3fb9c92576166ef1af20bc4a906a@flabnapple2.net> To: Ron X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:16:06 -0000 On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Ron wrote: > If I send email from a local user (while SSH'd in using the command line mail) to another local user (mail todd@mysite.com) on the same machine, but using the full email address, I get the following error and the email bounced back: > > 553 5.3.5 mail.mysite.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) > 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error > > The only thing I can think of is that mysite.com and mail.mysite.com (the mx record) do not point to the same server (which they did on my old machine). I have also tried everything I can think of in how users are listed in postfix's virtual file and in /etc/aliases and server entries in main.cf. You need to tell Postfix that mysite.com and mail.mysite.com are local. See the mydestination keyword in main.cf. > The second issue is if (again, SSH'd in an using mail) I send email to a local user without the @mysite.com (mail todd) then the email isn't available via IMAP externally. I can read it using the command line mail, but not externally via IMAP. These two mailboxs are completely separate and have two different lists of waiting email. This implies you might be using a command line mail which does direct delivery to a Unix-style mailbox, but Postfix is using courier via mailbox_transport setting. Postfix ought to come with a sendmail-ish wrapper which does delivery via Courier instead, probably under /usr/local/libexec/postfix/sendmail and linked to /usr/local/sbin/sendmail or similar via mailwrapper(8). Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 20:35:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7D4106564A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward14.mail.yandex.net (forward14.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE758FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.67]) by forward14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 409DF19823B9; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:35:54 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334262954; bh=ucrNc9m7/oYPBvjdoBSc6NTL1q1coR9Q7RNCaP1Rad4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QhX3gtY9j6F/2GxVlIcuMiZ6wPyHxYqzgUJ4bZ0XsmN7o+bXEmrGDuAqw/rWaOt7s 3dZCvl1o1m/C+n6qICJC37zrOt688X8OPYdIuZ6sWuz7b65kHElXfPyk/5DjEOO6hI jYEBUbx7fnA6Wk+tcjd71aeN8NubDtx9SXOqF154= Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2359A7E03D5; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:35:54 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [176.8.82.56]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id ZoQSbrLZ-ZrQSxakt; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:35:53 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334262954; bh=ucrNc9m7/oYPBvjdoBSc6NTL1q1coR9Q7RNCaP1Rad4=; h=Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:Organization:X-Priority:Message-ID:To: CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MKgvKkJk6XpOoQOTqsTu3d6Jp25aee1+GYnxqtnGnh3DAl+hXFqxJxWZfcztDIvw2 5o6Z7nTGFyLx5/jBSYJjprq+ICdKiNG1r6BYJUeDRsnIvWJf+BWlaCuNimN6a6rZCb Etrv/u6JCMFVrFH2KFIFJlHtNfiVAEvdiigbiarE= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:35:49 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <26203474.20120412233549@yandex.ru> To: Damien Fleuriot In-Reply-To: References: <505981334167684@web133.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , KES Subject: Re[2]: Problem with vlans on igb (was: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:35:57 -0000 Now i350 is configured as: /etc/rc.conf ## TCP/IP ifconfig_igb0="-rxcsum -txcsum -lro -tso up" ifconfig_igb1="-rxcsum -txcsum -lro -tso up" ifconfig_igb2="-rxcsum -txcsum -lro -tso up" ifconfig_igb3="-rxcsum -txcsum -lro -tso up" # ifconfig -m igb1 igb1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=400b8 capabilities=505bb ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a5 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active supported media: media autoselect media 1000baseT media 1000baseT mediaopt full-duplex media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex media 100baseTX media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex media 10baseT/UTP #pciconf -lv igb0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet Do I need to disable VLAN_HWCSUM, VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO also? PS. I will try to disable those after the holidays DF> Try disabling hardware VLAN tagging like so, I know we had problems a DF> few years back with it. DF> in /etc/rc.conf : DF> ifconfig_igb2=" -vlanhwtag -tso -lro up" DF> 2012/4/11 KES : >> >> >> -------- ðÅÒÅÓÙÌÁÅÍÏÅ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ š-------- >> 11.04.2012, 13:14, "KES" : >> >> 10.04.2012, 08:50, "Da Rock" : >> >>> šOn 04/10/12 05:02, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ wrote: >>>> ššYes, I have tested. >>>> ššand on this hardware on this OS it works from šFri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 >>>> ššbut last two days: >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššMon Apr š9 19:50 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššMon Apr š9 18:30 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 20:55 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 20:00 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 19:49 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 17:43 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSun Apr š8 10:58 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSat Apr š7 21:13 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSat Apr š7 16:37 >>>> ššreboot šššššššššš~ ššššššššššššššššššššššššSat Apr š7 16:07 >>>> >>>> ššI remembered. One thing changed. >>>> ššI add vlans to igb2, but no traffic flow on that devices yet. >>> šPerhaps you should test removing the vlans and see if things improve? >> >> I have removed vlans, two day server works without reboots >> >>>> ššBefore this I have use: igb0, igb1, igb3 >>>> ššigb0@pci0:1:0:0: šššššššclass=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>>> šššššššvendor šššš= 'Intel Corporation' >>>> šššššššclass ššššš= network >>>> šššššššsubclass šš= ethernet >>>> ššigb1@pci0:1:0:1: šššššššclass=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>>> šššššššvendor šššš= 'Intel Corporation' >>>> šššššššclass ššššš= network >>>> šššššššsubclass šš= ethernet >>>> ššigb2@pci0:1:0:2: šššššššclass=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>>> šššššššvendor šššš= 'Intel Corporation' >>>> šššššššclass ššššš= network >>>> šššššššsubclass šš= ethernet >>>> ššigb3@pci0:1:0:3: šššššššclass=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 >>>> šššššššvendor šššš= 'Intel Corporation' >>>> šššššššclass ššššš= network >>>> šššššššsubclass šš= ethernet >>>> >>>> ššifconfig_vlan100="inet š192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 100 vlandev igb2" #nALL >>>> ššifconfig_vlan101="inet š192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 101 vlandev igb2" #n2 p24 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan102="inet š192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 102 vlandev igb2" #n1 p23 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan103="inet š192.168.3.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 103 vlandev igb2" #n3 p22 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan104="inet š192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 104 vlandev igb2" #n7,9 p21 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan105="inet š192.168.5.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 105 vlandev igb2" #n11 p20 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan106="inet š192.168.6.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 106 vlandev igb2" #n13 p19 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan107="inet š192.168.7.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 107 vlandev igb2" #n223 p18 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan108="inet š192.168.8.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 108 vlandev igb2" #n225 p17 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan109="inet š192.168.9.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 109 vlandev igb2" #n221 p16 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan110="inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 110 vlandev igb2" #n229 p15 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan111="inet 192.168.11.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 111 vlandev igb2" #n233 p14 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan112="inet 192.168.12.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 112 vlandev igb2" #n231 p13 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan113="inet 192.168.13.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 113 vlandev igb2" #n237 p12 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan114="inet 192.168.14.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 114 vlandev igb2" #n424 p11 >>>> ššifconfig_vlan115="inet 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 115 vlandev igb2" # >>>> >>>> ššPAP> šNothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /var/crash >>>> ššPAP> šwould indicate to me some sort of hardware related problem. >>>> ššPAP> šHave you tested your hardware lately and know that it is in operational order? >>>> >>>> ššPAP> š~Paul >>>> >>>> ššPAP> šOn Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??????? ??????? wrote: >>>>>> ššHi. >>>>>> >>>>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK >>>>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: >>>>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: >>>>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. >>>>>> ššApr š9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG >>>>>> ššApr š9 20:09:22 kernel: >>>>>> >>>>>> ššrunning manually: >>>>>> šš# fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e >>>>>> šš** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) >>>>>> šš** Last Mounted on /tmp >>>>>> šš** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >>>>>> šš** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames >>>>>> šš** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity >>>>>> šš** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts >>>>>> šš** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >>>>>> šš99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) >>>>>> >>>>>> ššServer reboot two or three time per day >>>>>> šš# uname -a >>>>>> ššFreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881: Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 ššššadm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 šamd64 >>>>>> >>>>>> ššbefore this it works about month without problems >>>>>> >>>>>> šš/var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any messages before crash. >>>>>> ššCan any help to fix problem? >>> š_______________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 20:53:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78521065675 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867808FC16 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q3CKskOY027605; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:54:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:54:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201204122054.q3CKskOY027605@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rg.lists@rzweb.com In-Reply-To: <606a3fb9c92576166ef1af20bc4a906a@flabnapple2.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:53:35 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 12 15:09:43 2012 > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:01:10 -0700 > From: Ron > To: > Subject: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems > > I'm having a couple of issues with postfix and courier-imap on my new > machine and I'm trying to figure out what is different from my old > machine. I've checked every config file I think of and they both seem > to be set up the same. > > Here are the two issues: > > If I send email from a local user (while SSH'd in using the command > line mail) to another local user (mail todd@mysite.com) on the same > machine, but using the full email address, I get the following error and > the email bounced back: > > 553 5.3.5 mail.mysite.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX > problem?) > 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error this is a 'well known' problem. > > The only thing I can think of is that mysite.com and mail.mysite.com > (the mx record) do not point to the same server (which they did on my > old machine). it's not that sample. > I have also tried everything I can think of in how users > are listed in postfix's virtual file and in /etc/aliases and server > entries in main.cf. The problem is that the 'local' machine DOES NOT KNOW that it is supposed to accept mail for the domain specified in the email addressz. The server looks at the address, determines that it is *NOT* local, by whatever means 'postfix' uses to make that determination (it's the 'w' class in Sendmail), and goes off to query DNS for the MX for the 'remote' machine to send mail to. DNS returns "this" (the one asking for the 'remote' machine name) machine as the destination to deliver to. the local server =knows= that is incorrect, because it is not the delivery point for that domain. hence the error message, and 'return to sender' as undeliverable. This _is_ a configuration error in (probably) the local mailserver, or in the way the local hostname/domainname are set up.. > The second issue is if (again, SSH'd in an using mail) I send email to > a local user without the @mysite.com (mail todd) then the email isn't > available via IMAP externally. I can read it using the command line > mail, but not externally via IMAP. These two mailboxs are completely > separate and have two different lists of waiting email. This is an 'inconsistency' in the way 'locally' generated mail is being handled, and the way externally generated mail is being handled. *PROBABLY* because -one- mail server program is being started at boot time, and a _different_ program is being invoked when somebody sends locally from the command-line. Chasing this down can be a b*tch. "Everything and it's cousins" has the executable name 'sendmail' hard-coded into it for sending outgoing mail. Sometimes the original 'sendmail' is replaced by a different executable 'of the same name', that is really 'postfix', 'exim', 'qmail', or the dreaded 'something else'. Sometimes 'sendmail' is a "switching" program that determings -- by some arbitrary means (typically a configurtion file, stored 'somewhere')-- _which_ of many alternatives to call. Now _if_ the mailer started at boot time is *explicitly* named as something _other_ than "sendmail", and is -not- what you get when you invoke the name 'sendmail', you have "obvious" potential for dissimilar behavior. this is _probably_ what is going on in your case. "Local" command-line mail is being delivered to an 'mbox' type mailbox, while 'remote' mail is being delivered to 'something different' -- I think recent versios of IMAP use a database-type struture rather than a simple 'mbox'. > > Everything works fine if I send email from a remote client > (Thunderbird, Mail.app) and read the email with a remote client via > IMAP. It's just the local email sending that seems to be broken. I'd > like to get one of these two problems fixed so root can email me daily > log files, which it can't do right now or I can't read via IMAP because > they are't going to the right mailbox. > > Is there some simple I'm just messing up? "Yes." The difficulty comes in identifying _which_ "simple thing" it is that is messed up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 01:42:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56899106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 01:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D65B8FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 01:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so2512755vbm.13 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=a38xzvtVL6vchD390INcWWipCrCWF9l5JFwAy7yTvyQ=; b=pLuOUBg2ZazxcDISywceGFrrivYIhFTn8Mmk7n1DmBsO9rhI08sm6YakRExVlAI1CA eM9Ratzj1f4wNSz6jUTPrR1TXGprI4xwgqzIEVMvdEfUjNTC8Kre1BPK/X8z5rM2cEF7 SDIouPvLynPG4aZblNNaQIMU8jTlnvhLzvXLETfNCWjASGriUpwNl35uPInzYlbb/Yxo eOoZT4KOgBsdi7sOIQ5k3wKHf/bS2jfxoUNeiufOVVT33qmYu4blTe4IuUVY1HzeIrhG 32PfMqDRDunuo+9N8cdO/FF2+sUXKra+ZBm7ZKnlmWrpUdzqYaYNhwIcew7RniCL58Rg hTNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.95.212 with SMTP id dm20mr156313vdb.85.1334281351534; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.42 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <26203474.20120412233549@yandex.ru> References: <505981334167684@web133.yandex.ru> <26203474.20120412233549@yandex.ru> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:42:31 +0200 Message-ID: From: Damien Fleuriot To: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkXyViugNtN26TjdFHr5E1NyoZxRd041J2UkD9i+QFht2AmwTJAV2fylrHwFwVkqTLYTnaE Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , KES Subject: Re: Re[2]: Problem with vlans on igb (was: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 01:42:32 -0000 Yes, I suggest you try with "-vlanhwtag" as well. If that stops your unwanted reboots, you may want to remove it and see if the situation changes. 2012/4/12 =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA : > Now i350 is configured as: > > /etc/rc.conf > ## TCP/IP > ifconfig_igb0=3D"-rxcsum -txcsum -lro -tso up" > ifconfig_igb1=3D"-rxcsum -txcsum -lro -tso up" > ifconfig_igb2=3D"-rxcsum -txcsum -lro -tso up" > ifconfig_igb3=3D"-rxcsum -txcsum -lro -tso up" > > # ifconfig -m igb1 > igb1: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1= 500 > =9A =9A =9A =9Aoptions=3D400b8 > =9A =9A =9A =9Acapabilities=3D505bb > =9A =9A =9A =9Aether a0:36:9f:00:66:a5 > =9A =9A =9A =9Amedia: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > =9A =9A =9A =9Astatus: active > =9A =9A =9A =9Asupported media: > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9Amedia autoselect > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9Amedia 1000baseT > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9Amedia 1000baseT mediaopt full-duplex > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9Amedia 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9Amedia 100baseTX > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9Amedia 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex > =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9Amedia 10baseT/UTP > > #pciconf -lv > igb0@pci0:1:0:0: =9A =9A =9A =9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0x00018086 chip= =3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 > =9A =9Avendor =9A =9A =3D 'Intel Corporation' > =9A =9Aclass =9A =9A =9A=3D network > =9A =9Asubclass =9A =3D ethernet > > > > Do I need to disable VLAN_HWCSUM, VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO also? > > PS. I will try to disable those after the holidays > > DF> Try disabling hardware VLAN tagging like so, I know we had problems a > DF> few years back with it. > > DF> in /etc/rc.conf : > DF> ifconfig_igb2=3D" -vlanhwtag -tso -lro up" > > > DF> 2012/4/11 KES : >>> >>> >>> -------- =F0=C5=D2=C5=D3=D9=CC=C1=C5=CD=CF=C5 =D3=CF=CF=C2=DD=C5=CE=C9= =C5 =9A-------- >>> 11.04.2012, 13:14, "KES" : >>> >>> 10.04.2012, 08:50, "Da Rock" : >>> >>>> =9AOn 04/10/12 05:02, =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA wrot= e: >>>>> =9A=9AYes, I have tested. >>>>> =9A=9Aand on this hardware on this OS it works from =9AFri Feb 24 17:= 07:48 UTC 2012 >>>>> =9A=9Abut last two days: >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9AMon Apr =9A9 19:50 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9AMon Apr =9A9 18:30 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 20:55 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 20:00 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 19:49 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 17:43 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASun Apr =9A8 10:58 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASat Apr =9A7 21:13 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASat Apr =9A7 16:37 >>>>> =9A=9Areboot =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A~ =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A= =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9ASat Apr =9A7 16:07 >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9AI remembered. One thing changed. >>>>> =9A=9AI add vlans to igb2, but no traffic flow on that devices yet. >>>> =9APerhaps you should test removing the vlans and see if things improv= e? >>> >>> I have removed vlans, two day server works without reboots >>> >>>>> =9A=9ABefore this I have use: igb0, igb1, igb3 >>>>> =9A=9Aigb0@pci0:1:0:0: =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0= x00018086 chip=3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Avendor =9A=9A=9A=9A=3D 'Intel Corporation' >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=3D network >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Asubclass =9A=9A=3D ethernet >>>>> =9A=9Aigb1@pci0:1:0:1: =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0= x00018086 chip=3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Avendor =9A=9A=9A=9A=3D 'Intel Corporation' >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=3D network >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Asubclass =9A=9A=3D ethernet >>>>> =9A=9Aigb2@pci0:1:0:2: =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0= x00018086 chip=3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Avendor =9A=9A=9A=9A=3D 'Intel Corporation' >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=3D network >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Asubclass =9A=9A=3D ethernet >>>>> =9A=9Aigb3@pci0:1:0:3: =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass=3D0x020000 card=3D0= x00018086 chip=3D0x15218086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Avendor =9A=9A=9A=9A=3D 'Intel Corporation' >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Aclass =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=3D network >>>>> =9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9A=9Asubclass =9A=9A=3D ethernet >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan100=3D"inet =9A192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 100 vlandev igb2" #nALL >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan101=3D"inet =9A192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 101 vlandev igb2" #n2 p24 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan102=3D"inet =9A192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 102 vlandev igb2" #n1 p23 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan103=3D"inet =9A192.168.3.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 103 vlandev igb2" #n3 p22 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan104=3D"inet =9A192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 104 vlandev igb2" #n7,9 p21 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan105=3D"inet =9A192.168.5.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 105 vlandev igb2" #n11 p20 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan106=3D"inet =9A192.168.6.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 106 vlandev igb2" #n13 p19 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan107=3D"inet =9A192.168.7.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 107 vlandev igb2" #n223 p18 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan108=3D"inet =9A192.168.8.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 108 vlandev igb2" #n225 p17 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan109=3D"inet =9A192.168.9.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 v= lan 109 vlandev igb2" #n221 p16 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan110=3D"inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 110 vlandev igb2" #n229 p15 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan111=3D"inet 192.168.11.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 111 vlandev igb2" #n233 p14 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan112=3D"inet 192.168.12.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 112 vlandev igb2" #n231 p13 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan113=3D"inet 192.168.13.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 113 vlandev igb2" #n237 p12 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan114=3D"inet 192.168.14.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 114 vlandev igb2" #n424 p11 >>>>> =9A=9Aifconfig_vlan115=3D"inet 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vla= n 115 vlandev igb2" # >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9APAP> =9ANothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /= var/crash >>>>> =9A=9APAP> =9Awould indicate to me some sort of hardware related prob= lem. >>>>> =9A=9APAP> =9AHave you tested your hardware lately and know that it i= s in operational order? >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9APAP> =9A~Paul >>>>> >>>>> =9A=9APAP> =9AOn Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??????? ?????= ?? wrote: >>>>>>> =9A=9AHi. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY= , CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK >>>>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: >>>>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: >>>>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY= ; RUN fsck MANUALLY. >>>>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK = FLAG >>>>>>> =9A=9AApr =9A9 20:09:22 kernel: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =9A=9Arunning manually: >>>>>>> =9A=9A# fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e >>>>>>> =9A=9A** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) >>>>>>> =9A=9A** Last Mounted on /tmp >>>>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >>>>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames >>>>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity >>>>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts >>>>>>> =9A=9A** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >>>>>>> =9A=9A99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% = fragmentation) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =9A=9AServer reboot two or three time per day >>>>>>> =9A=9A# uname -a >>>>>>> =9A=9AFreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881= : Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 =9A=9A=9A=9Aadm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KE= S_KERN_v8 =9Aamd64 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =9A=9Abefore this it works about month without problems >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =9A=9A/var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any mess= ages before crash. >>>>>>> =9A=9ACan any help to fix problem? >>>> =9A_______________________________________________ > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 02:10:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C97910656D1 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F988FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo209.cox.net ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120413021028.OXFU26743.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo209.cox.net>; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:10:28 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.206]) by eastrmimpo209.cox.net with bizsmtp id xEAU1i00B4T5sES02EAUL2; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:10:28 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.4F878B14.0066,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=HqFWUIo4U7jEUTs225x6ZH0I8BLiD2Q6FyDr9Rb8Xwg= c=1 sm=1 a=jzyLYQut0zMA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:17 a=_pxgbcHMAAAA:8 a=fGO4tVQLAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=hEYrsCIg962z_P0itUkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=cRs4AX/51puMaUeRAuoQtw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3D2ARJ1006570; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:10:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:10:22 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Gabriel Marchi Message-ID: <20120412211022.74f93236@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:10:29 -0000 On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:13:00 -0300 Gabriel Marchi wrote: > Hi all, > I=B4m running 9.0-RELEASE on my laptop, everything works fine, except > when I try go back to console I get a black screen. >=20 > dmesg: http://pastebin.com/U45duS5n > xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/qERavJs0 > Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/143m0gWB > pciconf: http://pastebin.com/ZfQ6daGC >=20 > Thanks in advance. > Gabriel Marchi I've noticed this same behavior for a while now, when running X using xinit (startx). Upon exiting my X session, the X server doesn't shutdown, but has to be manually killed. Enabling the "zap" feature (where CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE kills the server) would be a good thing for you to try. --=20 Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 03:13:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A14C106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2762D8FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3D3DV1V002122; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:13:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q3D3DUWt002119; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:13:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:13:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Florian Unglaub In-Reply-To: <4F85FF2E.3000309@roladder.net> Message-ID: References: <4F85FF2E.3000309@roladder.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:13:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel turbo mode support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:13:32 -0000 On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, Florian Unglaub wrote: > I've stumbled upon http://goo.gl/Aq6Vd in the freebsd-current mailling list > and started investigating if turbo mode is working on my i7 860 here. The CPU > stock frequency is 2.8GHZ which is the maximum that dev.cpu.0.freq_levels > reports (powerd is enabled). According to the link above, freq_levels should > show a maximum frequency of 2801 if turbo mode is working. > > The patch above was MFC'ed quite a while ago. I updated to 9-stable yesterday > and it looks like the turbo is not working. dev.cpu.0.freq is at max. 2.8GHz, > even if I am using some CPU stress testing utilities (like burnP6). Works here on an i5, amd64: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 5801/300000 5800/300000 I found this by accident, noticing only that a buildworld suddenly was a lot faster when powerd was running. powerd_enable="YES" powerd_flags="-a hadp -n hadp" performance_cpu_freq="HIGH" During a buildworld, dev.cpu.0.freq goes to 5801. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 03:28:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D360106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rg.lists@rzweb.com) Received: from flabnapple.net (flabnapple.net [216.129.104.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8829F8FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.flabnapple.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flabnapple.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D0E1CC06F; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:28:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:28:40 -0700 From: Ron To: Robert Bonomi In-Reply-To: <201204122054.q3CKskOY027605@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201204122054.q3CKskOY027605@mail.r-bonomi.com> Message-ID: <36679ac887bb72cf3e4a50e4713bd357@flabnapple2.net> X-Sender: rg.lists@rzweb.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.7 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:28:41 -0000 On 12.04.2012 13:54, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 12 15:09:43 2012 >> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:01:10 -0700 >> From: Ron >> To: >> Subject: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems >> >> I'm having a couple of issues with postfix and courier-imap on my >> new >> machine and I'm trying to figure out what is different from my old >> machine. I've checked every config file I think of and they both >> seem >> to be set up the same. >> >> Here are the two issues: >> >> If I send email from a local user (while SSH'd in using the command >> line mail) to another local user (mail todd@mysite.com) on the same >> machine, but using the full email address, I get the following error >> and >> the email bounced back: >> >> 553 5.3.5 mail.mysite.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX >> problem?) >> 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error > > this is a 'well known' problem. >> >> The only thing I can think of is that mysite.com and mail.mysite.com >> (the mx record) do not point to the same server (which they did on >> my >> old machine). > > it's not that sample. > >> I have also tried everything I can think of in how >> users >> are listed in postfix's virtual file and in /etc/aliases and server >> entries in main.cf. > > The problem is that the 'local' machine DOES NOT KNOW that it is > supposed > to accept mail for the domain specified in the email addressz. > > The server looks at the address, determines that it is *NOT* local, > by whatever means 'postfix' uses to make that determination (it's the > 'w' class in Sendmail), and goes off to query DNS for the MX for the > 'remote' machine to send mail to. DNS returns "this" (the one asking > for > the 'remote' machine name) machine as the destination to deliver to. > the local server =knows= that is incorrect, because it is not the > delivery > point for that domain. hence the error message, and 'return to > sender' > as undeliverable. > > This _is_ a configuration error in (probably) the local mailserver, > or in > the way the local hostname/domainname are set up.. > I guess the question is: What is the configuration error? I've tried setting: mydestination = mysite.com, mail.mysite.com and it has no affect. The main.cf on my new machine is exactly the same as the main.cf on my old machine except for: virtual_alias_domains = mysite.com, mail.mysite.com which contains the domain of my new machine. master.cf is also identical. Is there a verbose mode I can put postfix into to see that the issue is? It should also be noted that mysite.com is a postfix virtual domain. This was true of my old machine as well, but I don't know if that matters. Sending email to todd@myserver.net produces the same MX error. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 02:35:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AA41065672 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhaojli@cn.ibm.com) Received: from e23smtp07.au.ibm.com (e23smtp07.au.ibm.com [202.81.31.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FDE8FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from /spool/local by e23smtp07.au.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:18:02 +1000 Received: from d23relay03.au.ibm.com (202.81.31.245) by e23smtp07.au.ibm.com (202.81.31.204) with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Sabatier" , Gabriel Marchi Subject: Re: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:51:14 -0000 Hi, On Friday 13 April 2012 09:10:22 Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:13:00 -0300 > Gabriel Marchi wrote: >=20 > > Hi all, > > I=B4m running 9.0-RELEASE on my laptop, everything works fine, except > > when I try go back to console I get a black screen. > >=20 > > dmesg: http://pastebin.com/U45duS5n > > xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/qERavJs0 > > Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/143m0gWB > > pciconf: http://pastebin.com/ZfQ6daGC > >=20 > > Thanks in advance. > > Gabriel Marchi >=20 > I've noticed this same behavior for a while now, when running X using > xinit (startx). Upon exiting my X session, the X server doesn't > shutdown, but has to be manually killed. >=20 it is the same for 8.3 and before. I have this effect since many years on d= ifferent machines with different versions. The effect comes and goes. What works is switching to the console startx was called, hitting control C= to kill X and start X again. I do not bother much about this as I simply kill X from the calling console. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 05:24:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE51106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61438FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.174.214.212] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SIYzQ-0006md-97; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:24:08 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q3D5O6EC002410; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:24:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id q3D5O57G002409; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:24:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:24:04 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20120413052404.GB2323@tinyCurrent> References: <20120412211022.74f93236@cox.net> <201204131150.39410.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201204131150.39410.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.214.212 Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , Gabriel Marchi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:24:17 -0000 El día Friday, April 13, 2012 a las 11:50:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió: > > I've noticed this same behavior for a while now, when running X using > > xinit (startx). Upon exiting my X session, the X server doesn't > > shutdown, but has to be manually killed. > > > it is the same for 8.3 and before. I have this effect since many years on different machines with different versions. The effect comes and goes. > > What works is switching to the console startx was called, hitting control C to kill X and start X again. > > I do not bother much about this as I simply kill X from the calling console. Please show your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xserverrc; mine look like this: $ cat .xinitrc setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp exec startkde $ cat .xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro and X comes down fine when KDE ends. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11 | UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2 | FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 06:35:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86956106566C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328AF8FC16 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3D6Ykav014560; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:34:50 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthias Apitz Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:34:53 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201204131150.39410.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120413052404.GB2323@tinyCurrent> In-Reply-To: <20120413052404.GB2323@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201204131334.54249.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , Gabriel Marchi Subject: Re: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:35:03 -0000 Hi, On Friday 13 April 2012 12:24:04 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Friday, April 13, 2012 a las 11:50:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky e= scribi=F3: >=20 >=20 > Please show your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xserverrc; mine look like this: I do not have an .xserverrc. The .xinitrc looks like this without the comme= nts: #!/bin/sh xset m 10 3 xmodmap .xmodmaprc bbkeys & exec blackbox and .xmodmaprc ! ! Swap Caps_Lock and Control_L ! remove Lock =3D Caps_Lock remove Control =3D Control_L keysym Control_L =3D Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock =3D Control_L add Lock =3D Caps_Lock add Control =3D Control_L I did not change this since many years but the behaviour of X changes somet= imes. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 06:55:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1263E1065670 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8A48FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DD35E343 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:42:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.665 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.665 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.667, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id zMfNS97whoCX for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:41:59 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-041-102.ekt.thalamus.net [195.216.41.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7440A5E2B4 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:41:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4F87CAC4.30409@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:42:12 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120314 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201204122227.q3CMRZ4d025034@bljbsd01.no-ip.org> In-Reply-To: <201204122227.q3CMRZ4d025034@bljbsd01.no-ip.org> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <201204122227.q3CMRZ4d025034@bljbsd01.no-ip.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: security updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:55:04 -0000 Hello list. I run a daily script via cron @daily root freebsd-update cron Today I got this in my mail which usually means that I have to run freebsd-update. Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files will be added as part of updating to 8.2-RELEASE-p6: /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c The following files will be updated as part of updating to 8.2-RELEASE-p6: /boot/kernel/kernel My question is: With uname -a I get FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p6 #1: Thu Jan 5 09:12:38 CET 2012 /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Do I need to do anything? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 07:18:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E3A1065670 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5483A8FC15 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.130.241] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SIamF-0002N1-Fs; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:18:40 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q3D7IZ6Q001346; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:18:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q3D7IXeb001345; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:18:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:18:32 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20120413071831.GA1338@tiny> References: <201204131150.39410.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120413052404.GB2323@tinyCurrent> <201204131334.54249.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201204131334.54249.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.241 Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , Matthias Apitz , Gabriel Marchi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:18:43 -0000 El día Friday, April 13, 2012 a las 01:34:53PM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió: > Hi, > > On Friday 13 April 2012 12:24:04 Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El día Friday, April 13, 2012 a las 11:50:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió: > > > > > > Please show your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xserverrc; mine look like this: > > I do not have an .xserverrc. The .xinitrc looks like this without the comments: do create a file ~/.xserverrc like mine; perhaps this help already; > > #!/bin/sh > xset m 10 3 > xmodmap .xmodmaprc > bbkeys & > exec blackbox > > and .xmodmaprc this is irrelevant for the problem: > > I did not change this since many years but the behaviour of X changes sometimes. don't blame X11 when perhaps 'blackbox' is not ending correctly; run a counter-test and substitute blackbox with twm ... does X11 ends when twm ends (having my .xserverrc)? if so try to figure out what the problem is with blackbox; HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 10:20:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596461065673 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185DF8FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.41.35.220] (helo=[192.168.16.85]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1SIdWc-0004Cs-YU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:14:42 +0000 From: "Dave B" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:14:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F87FC92.10399.3E2BDA@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <87obqx2yo5.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net>, X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:20:24 -0000 On 12 Apr 2012 at 11:28, Frank Bonnet wrote: > > "Dave B" writes: > > > >> Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set > >> it up on the FreeBSD box. As always, the "Manuals" though no doubt > >> correct and complete as a "reference", are no good to people who > >> don't already know "How To" do it. > > > > There is not much to set up. Just make sure you have sshd running. > > You can then just sftp (or any other client that supports sftp) to > > connect to port 22, or whatever port sshd is listening on. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > > > - Frank > > why not ftp over TLS ? like proftpd or pure-ftpd can do ? > Hi. Because as yet, I have not figured out how to get ProFTP or PureFTP installed and WORKING without bricking the machine. There is no step by step "how to" (that I've yet found) with also guidance as to how to work arround the inevitable issues that occur. The man pages are just command references, not an instruction book on how to use them. Sorry. Hence, I'm using the native OS's inbuilt FTP facility. Even that took me 3 days to get going in the first instance. (file Access rights issues and poor, even if correct, documentation.) Regards. Dave Baxter. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 10:25:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC684106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5AE8FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.41.35.220] (helo=[192.168.16.85]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1SIdhH-0002qH-Ys for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:25:43 +0000 From: "Dave B" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:25:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F87FF27.19624.484265@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <87obqx2yo5.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <4F866DE0.14587.F46D1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> (Dave B.'s message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:53:36 +0100"), <87obqx2yo5.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:25:44 -0000 On 12 Apr 2012 at 9:32, Frank Staals wrote: > "Dave B" writes: > > > Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it > > up on the FreeBSD box. As always, the "Manuals" though no doubt > > correct and complete as a "reference", are no good to people who > > don't already know "How To" do it. > > There is not much to set up. Just make sure you have sshd running. You > can then just sftp (or any other client that supports sftp) to connect > to port 22, or whatever port sshd is listening on. > > Regards, > > -- > > - Frank Hi Frank. Thanks for that suggestion. It works well! Issue resolved for now :-) FYI, you have to create an entry in FileZilla's Site Manager, for it to invoke SFTP, the "Quickconnect" feature just uses plain vanilla FTP. Best Regards. Dave Baxter. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 10:29:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DDC106566B for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-msapost-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848E8FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.41.35.220] (helo=[192.168.16.85]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1SIdMv-0002ll-e2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:04:41 +0000 From: "Dave B" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:04:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F87FA38.18304.34FEE4@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4F8640B3.5070108@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <4F8640B3.5070108@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:29:43 -0000 On 12 Apr 2012 at 12:40, Da Rock wrote: > On 04/11/12 21:51, Dave B wrote: > > FreeBSD FBSD.67MK181QZ 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: > > Wed Apr 14 22:55:09 BST 2010 > > root@FBSD.67MK181QZ:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PPSGENERIC i386 > > > > Hi. > > > > I have a small FreeBSD 8.0 system (above, yes I know, not current, > > but it works.) That is mainly used for timekeeping with an attached > > PPS equipped GPS. No problems with that. > > > > It also has a small web server (Hiawatha) FTP server and SSH portal, > > for my own use. > > > > The FTP "server" is the built-in OS based ftpd implementation, and > > works well for all that I need. > > > > Anyway... I found a while ago, that I can tunnel connections into > > my home LAN via a SSH session to my FreeBSD box, from outside the > > LAN using PuTTY (on Windows XP) from wherever I am. It's been a > > useful dodge for me to do that so as to VNC to other boxes that are > > there. The needed SSH working port, is not the usual suspect, it's > > way up high, well away from script kiddies etc. > > > > I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the > > FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when > > connecting this way using a SSH tunnel. > > > > Over the SSH session, (using Passive Mode, with all needed ports > > forwarded, plus the FTP daemon's data port usage restricted to the > > same range as those tunneled.) Though the FTP process appears to > > work OK, with no errors, the file sent to and deposited on the > > server ends up as name only, and zero bytes in length. > > > > Oddly, I can successfully create a new folder on the FTP server over > > the SSH session using the FTP client, and that works just fine. > > > > The FTP client I'm using, is the same FileZilla both times. > > (V3.1.0.1 I may go look for any updates, just in case.) > > > > Downloading works fine regardless of how I connect, it's just > > uploading that's screwey. I suspect (as usual) it's a rights issue, > > but even if I su - root after the initial SSH login, it changes > > nothing. > > I'd check the ports you are forwarding over ssh. Two ports are > required for ftp and it sounds like one is blocking for some reason- > the control channel seems to be working fine though :) As I suspect too, but as yet, I've not figured it out. I can as above download files just fine, so the data channel can be established for that, and I am using Passive Mode, so it *Should* be only my end (the client) that initiates a connection for the data channel. Also, two versions of FileZilla *Appear* to succeed uploading a file, no errors regarding being unable to setup a data channel, just that when you look on the FreeBSD box later, the file is zero bytes in size. Regards. Dave Baxter. 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Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 11:13:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EAF1065670 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CC48FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF984.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.249.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q3DBDhq6007432; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:13:44 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q3DBDWPf074273; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:13:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3DBDKKV061944; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:13:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201204131113.q3DBDKKV061944@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Tony From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:40:12 +0200." Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:13:20 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:13:53 -0000 Tony, cc questions@ > I also hear > PostgreSQLis planning to sue FreeBSD for > stealing its design. URLs please. > I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on > Helvetica. Requires Flash. 3rd party commercial binary. No source, no security, no view. > it'll remain as current now as it will be a hundred years from now The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. Storms of a century come every 10 ;-) FreeBSD has had it's 'new' front page since the SoC student mangler of 2005. I preferred the older one: http://berklix.org/freebsd.org/ All, Please remember when starting threads on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org questions@ is Not for any topic about FreeBSD. There are 50+ other list @freebsd.org themed to interests, see: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo in this case: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org or freebsd-www@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 11:23:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AF4106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFDF8FC16 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP202 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:23:03 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.104.150] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.104.150]) by BLU0-SMTP202.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:23:02 -0700 Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3VTc6Y0cJCz2CG4w for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:23:00 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2012 11:23:02.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9F47720:01CD1967] Subject: How to handle postgresql82-client vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:23:04 -0000 I am working on an older machine that has "postgresql-client-8.2.23" installed. I have the following information regarding the program: $ pkg_info -R postgresql-client-8.2.23 Information for postgresql-client-8.2.23: Required by: koffice-kde4-2.3.3_7 postgresql-libpqxx-3.0.2 Attempting to build the program produces this error: ===> postgresql-client-8.2.23 is forbidden: Vulnerable http://www.postgresql.org/about/news/1377/. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/postgresql82-client. I cannot find anything in the UPDATING or MOVED files that details how to deal with this. Would something like: portupgrade -o databases/postgresql90-client postgresql82-client be the proper way to handle this problem? Would I then have to rebuild koffice-kde4-2.3.3_7 and postgresql-libpqxx-3.0.2 to insure that everything works correctly? Thanks! -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 11:44:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE6B106566C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdaoden@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1E38FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so3023245bkc.13 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:44:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=uED5RUlyQR9MqoZNPaZq8KObFTd50vWReVQWXiLbeu0=; b=DLB2vdtXdlJPajrpF6UFxlVzD5gE73kiQA9zBEJnjRCo/eTFL0hvETJQLbb4Rg89Ae T31bSNcuqpZPZi0vNcw495j4BMVpr46DUqjrVqBb3vVbRgfQNBWFuyEBvl575ciPAQbd 1OVC36FhRS2Vz6l0tZO7wAJduq8Am6CThiR0AqlTPT7uQ9mK17KYm8nZGqE0vdMsW8U4 uIB2iRRkg/CaBBzn7Q554OxL3pQXM2VPa+qQ3AN27lR86nIkKgawR2K+N3sJjGtOJZIG 5qMu+zHcZDv7SG+oeA0HH8MyE5EfC5jbymP53IRWenRholagJMrNFs+ydCSXof6MjDxP ml/Q== Received: by 10.204.157.138 with SMTP id b10mr371288bkx.75.1334317454544; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sherwood.local ([89.204.138.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id zx16sm16123588bkb.13.2012.04.13.04.44.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:44:07 +0200 From: Steffen Daode Nurpmeso To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20120413114407.GB33281@sherwood.local> References: <201204131113.q3DBDKKV061944@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201204131113.q3DBDKKV061944@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Tony , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:44:21 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote [2012-04-13 13:13+0200]: > The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. 13. Not for all, though. --steffen Forza Figa! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 12:10:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D16106566B for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.unglaub@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B424C8FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaaf13 with SMTP id f13so831155eaa.13 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.28.199 with SMTP id g47mr187425eea.85.1334318999641; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (p4FC84015.dip.t-dialin.net. [79.200.64.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y11sm42409688eem.3.2012.04.13.05.09.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Florian Unglaub To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: References: <4F85FF2E.3000309@roladder.net> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.12+105~g6c84116 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.0.93.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:09:57 +0200 Message-ID: <86pqbbde96.fsf@mars.foo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel turbo mode support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:10:07 -0000 Warren Block writes: > Works here on an i5, amd64: > > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 5801/300000 5800/300000 > > I found this by accident, noticing only that a buildworld suddenly was a > lot faster when powerd was running. > > powerd_enable="YES" > powerd_flags="-a hadp -n hadp" > performance_cpu_freq="HIGH" I tried it with your powerd flags and the performance_cpu_freq setting on HIGH, but still the maximum freq_levels entry is 2800. Florian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 12:12:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC7A106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E40B8FC1C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3DCBxAk041930 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:11:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q3DCBxAk041930 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q3DCBxAk041930; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F881808.9080007@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:11:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB7DA54B313040B26AFE6560E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: How to handle postgresql82-client vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:12:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB7DA54B313040B26AFE6560E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/04/2012 12:23, Carmel wrote: > I am working on an older machine that has "postgresql-client-8.2.23" > installed. I have the following information regarding the program: >=20 > $ pkg_info -R postgresql-client-8.2.23 > Information for postgresql-client-8.2.23: >=20 > Required by: > koffice-kde4-2.3.3_7 > postgresql-libpqxx-3.0.2 >=20 > Attempting to build the program produces this error: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> postgresql-client-8.2.23 is forbidden: Vulnerable http://ww= w.postgresql.org/about/news/1377/. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/postgresql82-client. postgresql-8.2 is out of support upstream. It's only still in the ports because no one has realised it's past its expiry date and removed it yet.= Given the unfixed security problems, you should upgrade to a newer version ASAP. > I cannot find anything in the UPDATING or MOVED files that details how > to deal with this. Would something like: >=20 > portupgrade -o databases/postgresql90-client postgresql82-client >=20 > be the proper way to handle this problem? Would I then have to rebuild > koffice-kde4-2.3.3_7 and postgresql-libpqxx-3.0.2 to insure that everyt= hing works correctly? Correct, as far as dealing with the ports goes. Yes, you will have to recompile anything that links against libpq.so.X, which is probably more than shows up in the output of 'pkg_info -R' -- you can use the lib_chk script from bsdadminscripts to find everything that needs to be rebuilt. Or just 'portmaster -r databases/postgresql90-client' However, there is no guarantee that you can just start up postgresql90 and expect it to work with the postgresql82 data directory. (Although why not postgresql91 rather than 90? There's no good reason not to use the latest release.) As the ports don't support installing several versions of postgresql simultaneously, or encode the postgres version into the PGDATA path (which is a fairly standard approach on various other unixoid environments) you won't be able to use pg_upgrade easily. Given that in-place updates are not feasible, you should dump the contents of your database cluster and then reload it into a newly created cluster using the latest version. The PG documentation recommends using the client from the version you are updating to for creating the dumps, or else they may not reload cleanly. In fact, there are changes between 8.x and 9.0 to do with the encoding of non-ascii character data which are quite likely to cause difficulties for you. Note that you can install an updated client on a different box and dump remotely as a relatively simple way of using a new client to access an older DB. Ideally you should create a brand new DB cluster on a separate system, so you can have as many goes at pulling the data over from your original database as you need to get it right without destroying the originals. If you lack the resources to do that, then better make sure you've got good backups. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enigB7DA54B313040B26AFE6560E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+IGA8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIykdQCfXi7zJK0hj48zJZv+LLMbwMEz yC4An345wPM+byn9WhNJrKT1GQOD25Zu =d1YM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB7DA54B313040B26AFE6560E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 13:04:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CAA106566C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264D78FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcmm1 with SMTP id m1so2854730vcm.13 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:04:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZnfYh8J/j0EK0VAS+tkNt4dM3yuvfI4oD4/r6ZT/1u0=; b=HthQkBDxJuWBLc6R+iOV6h1Y5FezM40BqN8S755pug7QRJnWAnjI2McOINN/8JJsu7 4+CyRZgl8PjVtH0f6YvBQIr2F8H4wV+Vr4n3GvLjOT1tfDLMdOpp+W78RTFTUZ7cwIYY Io0S+B6yINGzxmY+y+/8LOE9Yr8Dh2h1lQSZpSkUYmWHZVl9iDBEJq/qttI2QI8Uk4VN PFtWlX1gc+A5PJT6MdWIpKxtvFnj3FzJHER0tHBZaUiHTRgOP0gCh+vlX1ASxrem2dwd WAA8AmCgg1QAIxPuPSmNUNS3NcVtdVUtsIVhDcztCAHs5rJ5BUCXrCvndMNx11ZSvuON m4GA== Received: by 10.52.240.171 with SMTP id wb11mr573501vdc.106.1334322279392; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:04:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.189.72 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:04:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86pqbbde96.fsf@mars.foo> References: <4F85FF2E.3000309@roladder.net> <86pqbbde96.fsf@mars.foo> From: Christer Solskogen Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:04:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: Florian Unglaub Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel turbo mode support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:04:40 -0000 On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Florian Unglaub wrote: > I tried it with your powerd flags and the performance_cpu_freq setting > on HIGH, but still the maximum freq_levels entry is 2800. > How far should it go, then? -- chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 13:10:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E30106566B for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EDC8FC15 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3DDA56o003490; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:10:07 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthias Apitz Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:10:09 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201204131334.54249.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120413071831.GA1338@tiny> In-Reply-To: <20120413071831.GA1338@tiny> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201204132010.10128.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , Gabriel Marchi Subject: Re: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:10:15 -0000 Hi, On Friday 13 April 2012 14:18:32 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Friday, April 13, 2012 a las 01:34:53PM +0700, Erich Dollansky e= scribi=F3: >=20 > > On Friday 13 April 2012 12:24:04 Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > El d=EDa Friday, April 13, 2012 a las 11:50:39AM +0700, Erich Dollans= ky escribi=F3: > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Please show your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xserverrc; mine look like this: > >=20 > > I do not have an .xserverrc. The .xinitrc looks like this without the c= omments: >=20 >=20 > do create a file ~/.xserverrc like mine; perhaps this help already; I did but it is too short to see the error. After creating this file, I tri= ed to close X and got into the usual problems. It seems that X does not swi= tch properly back to console video mode (whatever name it has). I switched = then to twm and ran into the same problem. Of course, this could have been = caused by blackbox from the run before. I checked the log files but could not see something which could be the reas= on for the problem. If you tell me what I could do, I could try to find the cause of the proble= m. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 13:12:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CBF106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766D68FC1F for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3DDC8Ud004061; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:12:11 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:12:17 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201204131113.q3DBDKKV061944@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120413114407.GB33281@sherwood.local> In-Reply-To: <20120413114407.GB33281@sherwood.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204132012.17227.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , Tony , Steffen Daode Nurpmeso Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:12:19 -0000 Hi, On Friday 13 April 2012 18:44:07 Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: > Julian H. Stacey wrote [2012-04-13 13:13+0200]: > > The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. > > 13. > Not for all, though. 1945 - 1933 gives 12. Do I have to start a calculator now? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 13:17:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E58106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5988FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3DDHJqY004756; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:17:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q3DDHJl7004753; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:17:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:17:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Christer Solskogen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4F85FF2E.3000309@roladder.net> <86pqbbde96.fsf@mars.foo> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:17:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Florian Unglaub Subject: Re: Intel turbo mode support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:17:20 -0000 On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Florian Unglaub wrote: >> I tried it with your powerd flags and the performance_cpu_freq setting >> on HIGH, but still the maximum freq_levels entry is 2800. >> > > How far should it go, then? The highest speed will be one higher than the nominal rating: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 5801/300000 5800/300000 ... The second one is the nominal speed, the first is turbo. dev.cpu.0.freq shows the current speed: dev.cpu.0.freq: 5801 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 13:30:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D218106566C; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65B78FC1B; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl9 with SMTP id l9so1959426yen.13 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:30:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=RcROOAfA+GBtYWjvc0PwRZ2lqJzrkURq44xbGY1dRz4=; b=Duyl5oC2HdmvwowF5mCR6BFi1Ici/oOzjXbsVTIcpyVHo1GyPuWAGrPb0v/HgCNqV4 lt7EyMZu4zFbCRF5e3s2vaadljs+W0QBFWFvJDkCznQuaGFQIlXdE+8LJHQhpLfeVG9b JNmbGbT6JCkwrseupgU765Ju+Fvf2wJTp6dhf6PoNfTmeYPwy3NvaAfuSJZTRB05wHBt 10/EuPgOdCSdpDL0cyiGwC4WJ/LV8bi7Bh+LVVzLsa93lPKlDWPvR8qg61ylPOOkjVnK r4AWDzcZgrmI/IZHBYmF6HVAsq3h5XduYUZuKZHYxQati0p3WBn36s2w0TPNurEFHY8B n3Cw== Received: by 10.236.190.2 with SMTP id d2mr1566318yhn.48.1334323841265; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:30:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.146.197.14 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:30:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F881808.9080007@FreeBSD.org> References: <4F881808.9080007@FreeBSD.org> From: Amitabh Kant Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:00:19 +0530 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Carmel , FreeBSD Subject: Re: How to handle postgresql82-client vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:30:42 -0000 On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 13/04/2012 12:23, Carmel wrote: > > I am working on an older machine that has "postgresql-client-8.2.23" > > installed. I have the following information regarding the program: > > > > $ pkg_info -R postgresql-client-8.2.23 > > Information for postgresql-client-8.2.23: > > > > Required by: > > koffice-kde4-2.3.3_7 > > postgresql-libpqxx-3.0.2 > > > > Attempting to build the program produces this error: > > > > ===> postgresql-client-8.2.23 is forbidden: Vulnerable > http://www.postgresql.org/about/news/1377/. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/postgresql82-client. > > postgresql-8.2 is out of support upstream. It's only still in the ports > because no one has realised it's past its expiry date and removed it yet. > > Given the unfixed security problems, you should upgrade to a newer > version ASAP. > > > I cannot find anything in the UPDATING or MOVED files that details how > > to deal with this. Would something like: > > > > portupgrade -o databases/postgresql90-client postgresql82-client > > > > be the proper way to handle this problem? Would I then have to rebuild > > koffice-kde4-2.3.3_7 and postgresql-libpqxx-3.0.2 to insure that > everything works correctly? > > Correct, as far as dealing with the ports goes. Yes, you will have to > recompile anything that links against libpq.so.X, which is probably more > than shows up in the output of 'pkg_info -R' -- you can use the lib_chk > script from bsdadminscripts to find everything that needs to be rebuilt. > Or just 'portmaster -r databases/postgresql90-client' > > However, there is no guarantee that you can just start up postgresql90 > and expect it to work with the postgresql82 data directory. (Although > why not postgresql91 rather than 90? There's no good reason not to use > the latest release.) > > As the ports don't support installing several versions of postgresql > simultaneously, or encode the postgres version into the PGDATA path > (which is a fairly standard approach on various other unixoid > environments) you won't be able to use pg_upgrade easily. > > Given that in-place updates are not feasible, you should dump the > contents of your database cluster and then reload it into a newly > created cluster using the latest version. The PG documentation > recommends using the client from the version you are updating to for > creating the dumps, or else they may not reload cleanly. In fact, there > are changes between 8.x and 9.0 to do with the encoding of non-ascii > character data which are quite likely to cause difficulties for you. > Note that you can install an updated client on a different box and dump > remotely as a relatively simple way of using a new client to access an > older DB. > > Ideally you should create a brand new DB cluster on a separate system, > so you can have as many goes at pulling the data over from your original > database as you need to get it right without destroying the originals. > If you lack the resources to do that, then better make sure you've got > good backups. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > > You will have to perform a dump & restore to move from 8.2.x to 9.0.x (might as well move up to 9.1.x). The data directory compatibility is not guaranteed across major version. Amitabh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 13:57:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3481065670 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0248FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY165-DS14 ([65.54.190.61]) by bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:56:38 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.252.121.49] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Sean Cavanaugh To: "'Erich Dollansky'" , References: <201204131113.q3DBDKKV061944@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120413114407.GB33281@sherwood.local> <201204132012.17227.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <201204132012.17227.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:56:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQEozLxoRFoRp7A2BrCXp4qp9FI3NAHEgXUMAhhg0AIBtjidmJe0x/mA Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2012 13:56:38.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F500E70:01CD197D] Cc: "'Julian H. Stacey'" , 'Tony' , 'Steffen Daode Nurpmeso' Subject: RE: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:57:44 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Erich Dollansky > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:12 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Julian H. Stacey; Tony; Steffen Daode Nurpmeso > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity > > Hi, > > On Friday 13 April 2012 18:44:07 Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: > > Julian H. Stacey wrote [2012-04-13 13:13+0200]: > > > The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. > > > > 13. > > Not for all, though. > > 1945 - 1933 gives 12. > > Do I have to start a calculator now? > Its 13 INCLUSIVE. You're calculating exclusive From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 14:14:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F4131106573B for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE00F8FC15 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=w4rzdpIKXdi0I10oEkypnyKtBd5o46w4Xth+F8dDUgg=; b=NRSnSPcqdw2uQaTIo25VeMH/sPYSiuxZZloM7LLXWMfOzu18sBtX1uI7ANOFPoZbrHE+/oGkz3mQujJz38kfoJLfPtj+/AQPlCUe+eUm6CPyV/7xgs1X5ND1LAU9iB1r7eC/UAc6Nbw1bf61uQMNhCSh9Jgz0uJkG9WEU1fzTjo= Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([71.66.119.144]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:14:33 -0700 Message-ID: <4F8834CB.5090203@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:14:35 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4F7F522C.4040309@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4F7F522C.4040309@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2012 14:14:33.0851 (UTC) FILETIME=[C02084B0:01CD197F] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: ipfilter mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:14:42 -0000 Fbsd8 wrote: > Running 9.0 and connecting to Time Warner for the first time. > I have private lan behind my 9.0 box. > I have made a real simple rule set and nat rule just to get log > of what is happing. > > ipfilter rules. dc0 faces lan, fxp0 faces public internet > > pass in log quick on dc0 all > pass out log quick on dc0 all > > #pass in quick on fxp0 from 10.2.0.1 > pass in log quick on fxp0 all > pass out log quick on fxp0 all > > pass in quick on lo0 all > pass out quick on lo0 all > > nat rule > map fxp0 10.0.10.0/29 -> 0/32 > > Ipmon log > fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad > broadcast > fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad > broadcast > fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad > broadcast > fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad > broadcast > fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 384 IN bad > broadcast > fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 384 IN bad > broadcast > fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad > broadcast > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,55884 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 61 IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,55884 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 61 OUT > NAT > fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,55884 PR udp len 20 95 IN bad NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,55884 PR udp len 20 95 OUT bad > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,55660 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 64 IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,55660 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 64 OUT > NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,51926 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 62 IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,51926 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 62 OUT > NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,58697 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 61 IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,58697 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 61 OUT > NAT > fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,55660 PR udp len 20 80 IN bad NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,55660 PR udp len 20 80 OUT bad > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,49947 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 64 IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,49947 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 64 OUT > NAT > fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,58697 PR udp len 20 77 IN bad NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,58697 PR udp len 20 77 OUT bad > fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,51926 PR udp len 20 100 IN bad NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,51926 PR udp len 20 100 OUT bad > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,49901 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 63 IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,49901 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 63 OUT > NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,59865 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 66 IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,59865 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 66 OUT > NAT > fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,59865 PR udp len 20 82 IN bad NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,59865 PR udp len 20 82 OUT bad > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,53742 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 71 IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,53742 -> 209.18.47.61,53 PR udp len 20 71 OUT > NAT > fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,49947 PR udp len 20 116 IN bad NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,49947 PR udp len 20 116 OUT bad > fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,49901 PR udp len 20 99 IN bad NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,49901 PR udp len 20 99 OUT bad > fxp0 @0:2 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,53742 PR udp len 20 120 IN bad NAT > dc0 @0:1 p 209.18.47.61,53 -> 10.0.10.1,53742 PR udp len 20 120 OUT bad > fxp0 @0:2 p 10.2.0.1,67 -> 255.255.255.255,68 PR udp len 20 328 IN bad > broadcast > dc0 @0:1 p 10.0.10.1,1320 -> 69.147.83.34,80 PR tcp len 20 48 -S IN > fxp0 @0:2 p 177.99.209.140,1320 -> 69.147.83.34,80 PR tcp len 20 48 -S > OUT NAT > > 10.0.10.1 is the laptop in the lan. > 10.2.0.1 is being sent by time warner > I can not understand why I am getting the "IN bad NAT" > > The webpage loaded ok on the lan laptop. > > I have been using ipfilter since release 3.2 and this is the first isp > i ever got this kind of problem with. > > > > This turns out to be a bug in ipfilter. It’s now been reported as a bug to Darren Reed the maintainer of ipfilter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 14:23:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68D81065670 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gorgarath@ymail.com) Received: from nm31-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42EB18FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2012 14:23:18 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.58] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2012 14:23:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2012 14:23:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1334326998; bh=XlQRhbzBSK33yM2Oxm9X4H6ZGRY02ADYQwgwzMnPYlU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=XoxR6tEwBc1QxxJ6ndMXn7IXjPCO6zEH3edNi8C19Mr5vT0FK7fHKqZg46kdU7/9FVO+eeWmFPKmQWUphJnoZ1rRY/tfsmjOiuEVXggvwxNrZt16zGjba+IRvmzqenSz8O3XLo3xt8RbzUaryxu2VBKRf+K0jFI2y5TC044L4Po= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 314811.31563.bm@smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: KYXsfDcVM1mf0jnR2MlfC3GD3vgTsMJ9F59Jl33BMwUTTbP YYUjW42ZrbVpSIXD7NyJbbNY4JX7UYKq14OWOrwt7RpqRq5PHAgim8hgsDTh 38t.GB7Xv0dFcpcp7.DPW8owY2gY8.ahVK5AsrKeftmCq1mHRm0cAbXSGRhV NPDu_Ge83aOOa44jv2quPz4JSRucDRYkXLkahK.sM_ox6G6bl_NdoYSY5Wnv gaWOWiPVWxpnINdYguPjmCs.QBEQYjp9q9.7uHrk0bCzPHU7niJ3Yqgxm9Jd 8SWY0n2ce3rB2QtPLt4suF.9BqsWJw26G7UHXZ4YhwagR5nMN1OeNmbG0kBm gyhB_YvhYf_rE2OMxA0NXqeoZvXdABnrsvA_d06Q0DtJ40klEIz.Cx.ZgsDf aVZk08Q-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Bl5lijqswBDMUB0Jw8Mi.jr9UOWm1YqfryoAHx829zg- Received: from admintech (gorgarath@68.234.51.1 with login) by smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2012 07:23:18 -0700 PDT From: "John McDonnell" To: References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <4F8640B3.5070108@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F87FA38.18304.34FEE4@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F87FA38.18304.34FEE4@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:23:16 -0400 Message-ID: <006301cd1980$f898bc80$e9ca3580$@ymail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIKeoUozJ6PHMxFF1zSIQN09Qd8sgIOEy7MAny4OZyV+bWpQA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gorgarath@ymail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:23:24 -0000 > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dave B > FYI, you have to create an entry in FileZilla's Site Manager, for it > to invoke SFTP, the "Quickconnect" feature just uses plain vanilla FTP. > > Best Regards. > > Dave Baxter. You can use the "Quickconnect" feature with SFTP. If you are running on standard port 22, you can simply put 22 in the port box. For non-standard ports, you can prepend sftp:// to the host name and it will connect via SFTP instead of FTP. Apologies to Dave as he'll be getting this twice as I somehow forgot to include questions@ when replying. Thought this might come in handy for others who want to SFTP into a box with FileZilla, so resending to the list this time. All in all, creating an entry in Site Manager makes more sense if it's something you connect to from your own hardware. From someone else's machine, the quick connect is quite handy though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 14:32:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11A41065670 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdaoden@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB408FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so3194270bkc.13 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:32:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=QKVXm44Xd35ucs8F9VFpl+e1qQGJdCmzBC30rvOd8/c=; b=eiXhab/N+MknMo+tclqP0a0G38buGHsUCeIkDCWA/m5nn5+cmRnGTtme5B3HbjCJM+ uySg/HWg6IYSYp6oAqFTzxV4yLNVtms2JOawv9/90vpFh1JndtXPG8CQNJVARBnL6WBZ C1roRL64WirujqE81I4OUtSH3GfwgbP16+QiT2Co1SU3YsqrIirc02CbRXQYZe1+tLUY CL0PgR82BO6k54P9e25tZK0vMdlTeAHXpQmxkZSiLeavBmxn6OzVqxzQyx8O7N+dZtth lAwFF2l4eQ5jqjjoij0KpsRymeSd2eKdsTyRv9aa+vg/1sOd3aHilariam4s0f1p9qDi dOgQ== Received: by 10.204.15.209 with SMTP id l17mr532609bka.86.1334327566053; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sherwood.local ([82.113.99.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id zx16sm16831526bkb.13.2012.04.13.07.32.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:32:39 +0200 From: Steffen Daode Nurpmeso To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120413143239.GD33281@sherwood.local> References: <201204131113.q3DBDKKV061944@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120413114407.GB33281@sherwood.local> <201204132012.17227.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201204132012.17227.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Erich Dollansky , Sean Cavanaugh , Tony , "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:32:47 -0000 > > > The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. > Do I have to start a calculator now? Once i went to Dachau with my school year in the mid-eighties our guide collected us (all) in a small, low-ceilinged room with a quadratic hole in the thick ceiling and spoke from conviction: Hier wurden keine Juden vergast! (No jews were gassed here!) Then he opened the next thick door and we had a short look into the crematorium. (All inclusive was the walk back to the main building and the film with all those pictures which should be well known.) On the other hand there is one picture left which shows the house where my grandmother lived and it shows a hole in the roof. The bomb fell through the sleeping room, passed the ceiling to the first floor and also damaged the ceiling of the cellar in which my grandmother and my two year old dad were searching for shelter. Like that, they suffered only minor splinter injuries. (Our hometown was bombed/burned only one night. Unless you count the camp in which the americans put away some people for some time after the war.) > Point taken :-) Yup. --steffen Forza Figa! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 14:45:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1077106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6759B8FC21 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk4 with SMTP id k4so2036111ggn.13 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:45:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0pdiDuoWVKc8fCNMQMEBGS4/41TWD8jcAPXXQxdMB+A=; b=M7Z6JDBl3QiE6KcCLs8BQb17rR+1nuIf1JkvJH70WY/ytmt/IHW5oJTCnFlEjKZ7uI eKsyN9sA+ecl11xotxrJ5BpQcmn+e+au4ZG9RU1YBGEd+7DSq63b7N0GhUBz63NQNK2j 2VlG3GELM12ALVsvH0wsgKBwsicUuYdLQhLB/92pF8ooawjbekd/sDS2DqF6qXSKJtCc g0xpeBJy4ga2SPOpJeT5sBmBVgHRQ/ShuwvjWCzkgXew4qQvFpvuQDFYGHA2HDwQiZ9n Z5C3PU4K33GRqUzTJhDlcVXiCFi9Si2EVe+qFCnQdiA+XfAW25e7lMMlE39X2unZa4P+ BQ4Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.216.136 with SMTP id oq8mr1843219igc.63.1334328333643; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.129.35 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:45:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4F85FF2E.3000309@roladder.net> <86pqbbde96.fsf@mars.foo> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:45:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Christer Solskogen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Florian Unglaub Subject: Re: Intel turbo mode support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:45:34 -0000 On 13 April 2012 14:17, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, Christer Solskogen wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Florian Unglaub >> wrote: >>> >>> I tried it with your powerd flags and the performance_cpu_freq setting >>> on HIGH, but still the maximum freq_levels entry is 2800. >>> >> >> How far should it go, then? > > > The highest speed will be one higher than the nominal rating: > > =A0dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 5801/300000 5800/300000 ... > > The second one is the nominal speed, the first is turbo. > dev.cpu.0.freq shows the current speed: > > =A0dev.cpu.0.freq: 5801 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" is the uefi/bios setup correctly? Multiplier could be wrong or turbo could be disabled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 15:20:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCF91065670 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAA18FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF984.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.249.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q3DFK6tP009239; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:20:07 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q3DFJtpI075413; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:19:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3DFJhK0065755; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:19:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201204131519.q3DFJhK0065755@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Steffen Daode Nurpmeso From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:32:39 +0200." <20120413143239.GD33281@sherwood.local> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:19:43 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: chat@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:20:09 -0000 > Once i went to Dachau with my school year in the mid-eighties our ( Happened to interest me, as I happen to live nearish, & into history), But to avoid being off remit for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions I set Reply-to: chat@freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat Please all take a look at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo to know what lists are available for different FreeBSD tech topics. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. 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[79.200.64.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q45sm45057235eem.7.2012.04.13.08.50.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:50:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Florian Unglaub To: krad , Warren Block In-Reply-To: References: <4F85FF2E.3000309@roladder.net> <86pqbbde96.fsf@mars.foo> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.12+105~g6c84116 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.0.93.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:50:07 +0200 Message-ID: <86mx6fd428.fsf@mars.foo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Christer Solskogen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel turbo mode support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:50:15 -0000 krad writes: > is the uefi/bios setup correctly? Multiplier could be wrong or turbo > could be disabled I rechecked my Bios settings and it's all ok. Test booting windows and using Intel's Monitoring tool also gives > 3.2GHz on a single core if there's enough load. Florian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 15:59:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1C21065672 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3FF8FC16 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3DFxWMM012171; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:59:35 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:59:41 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201204132012.17227.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204132259.41385.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , 'Tony' , "'Julian H. Stacey'" , 'Steffen Daode Nurpmeso' Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:59:40 -0000 On Friday 13 April 2012 20:56:35 Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > Hi, > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Erich Dollansky > > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:12 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Cc: Julian H. Stacey; Tony; Steffen Daode Nurpmeso > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity > > > > Hi, > > > > On Friday 13 April 2012 18:44:07 Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: > > > Julian H. Stacey wrote [2012-04-13 13:13+0200]: > > > > The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. > > > > > > 13. > > > Not for all, though. > > > > 1945 - 1933 gives 12. > > > > Do I have to start a calculator now? > > > > Its 13 INCLUSIVE. You're calculating exclusive it also fits better to today's date. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 16:37:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67605106566C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247E78FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B24C1E1C6; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:37:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3DGbGnq005644; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:37:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:37:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Message-Id: <20120413183716.91bacc9a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201204132259.41385.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <201204132012.17227.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <201204132259.41385.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:37:24 -0000 On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:59:41 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Friday 13 April 2012 20:56:35 Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Erich Dollansky > > > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:12 AM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Cc: Julian H. Stacey; Tony; Steffen Daode Nurpmeso > > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Friday 13 April 2012 18:44:07 Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: > > > > Julian H. Stacey wrote [2012-04-13 13:13+0200]: > > > > > The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. > > > > > > > > 13. > > > > Not for all, though. > > > > > > 1945 - 1933 gives 12. > > > > > > Do I have to start a calculator now? > > > > > > > Its 13 INCLUSIVE. You're calculating exclusive > > it also fits better to today's date. Fits even better next Friday! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 16:41:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B031065673 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from anchor-msapost-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-msapost-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E4D8FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dyn-62-56-56-229.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.56.229] helo=[192.168.42.15]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1SIjZ8-0001X0-ji for Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:41:42 +0000 From: "Dave B" To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:41:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F885749.12450.1CF602@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <006101cd1978$56094370$021bca50$@ymail.com> References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <4F87FF27.19624.484265@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <006101cd1978$56094370$021bca50$@ymail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:41:52 -0000 On 13 Apr 2012 at 9:21, John McDonnell wrote: > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dave B > > > FYI, you have to create an entry in FileZilla's Site Manager, for it > > to invoke SFTP, the "Quickconnect" feature just uses plain vanilla FTP. > > > > Best Regards. > > > > Dave Baxter. > > You can use the "Quickconnect" feature with SFTP. If you are running > on standard port 22, you can simply put 22 in the port box. For > non-standard ports, you can prepend sftp:// to the host name and it > will connect via SFTP instead of FTP. > Cheers, I'll try that next time I'm on "the outside" of my home LAN, it seems to work from the inside, as it would of course... At present, there a suitably configured link in the site manager. Thanks again. Dave. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 16:55:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD70106566C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@geofront.co.uk) Received: from geofront.co.uk (geofront.co.uk [109.104.93.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5088FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by geofront.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 33) id 30079346B8212; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:49:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from pc1.idsadsl.ftech.co.uk (pc1.idsadsl.ftech.co.uk [212.32.48.98]) by webmail.geofront.co.uk (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:49:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:49:29 +0100 Message-ID: <20120413174929.Horde.zYaaGAcXel9PiFkZJh13U8A@webmail.geofront.co.uk> From: Mike Woods To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201204131113.q3DBDKKV061944@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120413114407.GB33281@sherwood.local> <201204132012.17227.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H4 (5.0.14) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:55:14 -0000 Quoting Sean Cavanaugh : >> > 13. >> > Not for all, though. >> >> 1945 - 1933 gives 12. >> >> Do I have to start a calculator now? >> > > Its 13 INCLUSIVE. You're calculating exclusive All i'm saying is, Iron Sky. :D ------------------------ Mike Woods Full of squishy cynicism From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 17:32:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EA31065670 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from mail.shire.net (mail.shire.net [209.41.94.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E138FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-76-27-96-201.hsd1.ut.comcast.net ([76.27.96.201] helo=[192.168.99.216]) by mail.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1SIk1q-000OUI-1p; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:11:22 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:11:20 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 76.27.96.201 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Chad Leigh Subject: Changes in Jails from FreeBSD 6 to FreeBSD 9 -- particularly, networking and routing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chad Leigh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:32:14 -0000 Hi All OK, so I have a server that has been running FreeBSD 6.1 and a bunch of = jails, providing a few limited services. I am migrating these from real = hardware and FreeBSD 6.1 with jail running, to a Xen based VPS running = FreeBSD 9.0-R with a kernel rebuild from a GENERIC kernel to GENERIC = plus the Xen pci device. There is one network device on the new server = and it shares all addresses and the default route goes out it. Because jails in FBSD 6 shared a network stack, I could have a public = network x.x.x.0/24 and public address on the host machine, and a default = route in that network as well, and use a 192.168.1.0/24 address aliased = on the same network interface as the IP for my jail. When doing that, = from inside the jail, I could still reach the internet since it shared = the route with the underlying machine. That seems to have changed on FBSD 9. Now, if I add in the = 192.168.1.0/24 address and run a jail on it, with the host machine in a = public network/address/route as described above, from inside the jail I = CANNOT reach the internet (it is not a resolver issue as services going = to numeric addresses also fail). However, the jail with the private = 192.168.1.0/24 address CAN reach the host machines services even if it = cannot get out onto the internet. And the HOST machine can access = services on the jail running on the private IP address. (The purpose of the jail is to provide services to other jails and hosts = on the same public network [all VPS on the same public vlan] and NOT to = provide services to the internet. Things like local ldap or a local dns = etc. But the private jail still needs to reach the internet for things = like name servers it needs to access that are outside of the public = network the host lives in. So I don't care if the internet itself can = reach the private jail, just the local jails and hosts it co-exists = with. The answer shouldn't be natd etc (was not needed in 6.0 and I am = not sharing one public address with a range of private jails behind it). If I launch the jail with an address from the same public range as the = host, it works fine. The jail can access the internet fine and vice = versa. The host can access the jail services as well. If I launch the jail with a private address, the jail cannot reach the = internet. It can reach the host in the public network, but not other = machines in the same public network (ie, the other VPS I have running = which are all in the same public network). If I launch the jail with both a private address and a public address, = it can reach the internet and other VPS on the same public network. I = may have to end up doing that and just not having any services run on = the public IP but I'd rather avoid using up an address like that. What changes happened in the jails between FBSD 6 and FBSD 9 that would = give the symptoms I have been experiencing? Thanks Chad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 18:54:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31632106566C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward13.mail.yandex.net (forward13.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EED18FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (smtp12.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.191]) by forward13.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AD09C140CAB; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:54:21 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334343261; bh=FNV3ZS/KkXBUnTsQwuaL5m2719dG4KuNaBob8EYzzaY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cpPtpkN1UN4MWV5otAXJwrANqBwKe9VepRdVEsl64if2siRy0A5qc1ZPmuIaEgCBj 7GXYpNUo/6IwCySNFlMLz5NE1eGjjHKT6nDXp0P+lzmuQ02JTPAXGchKlJTSogxfHd zjp89CPba1+ZHv5Geo2YV2D0bAn3vudG1PVOWeeg= Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 89E4D16A0557; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:54:21 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id sHNWXPqm-sLN8xrjP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:54:21 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1334343261; bh=FNV3ZS/KkXBUnTsQwuaL5m2719dG4KuNaBob8EYzzaY=; h=Date:From:X-Mailer:Reply-To:Organization:X-Priority:Message-ID:To: CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ABV4J2OisYwmcFN7V40O7IF/8zclotDT7GksMXWMzSlzDLUfDM+j14C96ir9Y/uGT ok8kW/b4ep06d9jAdCZChLyouPY3u1m0CdjXTo/Oz9F4WQ9ojpd3hKDUZ47ttqCkLo DtUWA9y62Bkyz9LEsGMX398AHRrSeO82XtWcZ5lg= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:54:17 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1133680770.20120413215417@yandex.ru> To: Damien Fleuriot In-Reply-To: References: <505981334167684@web133.yandex.ru> <26203474.20120412233549@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , KES Subject: Re[4]: Problem with vlans on igb (was: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:54:24 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Damien. ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 13 ÁÐÒÅÌÑ 2012 Ç., 4:42:31: DF> Yes, I suggest you try with "-vlanhwtag" as well. DF> If that stops your unwanted reboots, you may want to remove it and see DF> if the situation changes. igb0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=400b8 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a4 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active igb1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=400b8 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a5 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active igb2: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=400b8 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active igb3: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=400b8 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a7 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan407: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a4 inet xxxxxxxx netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast xxxxxxxx media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 407 parent interface: igb0 vlan408: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a5 inet xxxxxxxxx netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast xxxxxxxxxxx media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 408 parent interface: igb1 vlan492: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a5 inet xxxxxxxxxxxx netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast xxxxxxxxx media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 492 parent interface: igb1 vlan70: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a7 inet xxxxxxxx netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast xxxxxx media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 70 parent interface: igb3 vlan71: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a7 inet xxxxxxxxxxx netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast xxxxxxx media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 71 parent interface: igb3 vlan72: flags=8002 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan73: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a7 inet xxxxxxxxx netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast xxxxxxxxx media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 73 parent interface: igb3 vlan74: flags=8002 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan75: flags=8002 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan76: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a7 inet xxxxxxxxxxx netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast xxxxxxx media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 76 parent interface: igb3 vlan100: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan101: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 inet xxxxxxxxxx netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxxxxxxxxxx media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 101 parent interface: igb2 vlan102: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan103: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan104: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan105: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan106: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan107: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan108: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan109: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan110: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan111: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan112: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan113: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan114: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan115: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan: 0 parent interface: vlan115: flags=8803 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether a0:36:9f:00:66:a6 vlan: 0 parent interface: With this config no 'REBOOT' happen When just assign vlan100, 102-115 to igb2 and add IPs to those interfaces (no any traffic on those vlans yet) server starts to reboot. In evening time =) You sugestion to disable 'vlanhwtag' I will try after holidays. Do not want to risk now =). One more question: I must disable vlanhwtag on all igbs, or only on igb2? (this is four head LAN) -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ëÏÎØËÏ× mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 19:50:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3484E106566C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F104F8FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:50:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=0QepNveyTldqGDHBDCe2YBygdwQqLwBCqsPW15ISLRo=; b=ssN+TyjHF09mi/5i8zmhGY7SNM6NFdLtdsCC+2+AiI2WM/54CSPqkXNi6qkgGr1NWHK2JwtcvXWKTff0A/or0QJPZ8gudbxL5Ry2xj7PrCHqtH5g8NAIHx3+M/fEspkA; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SImW4-000Pq6-DH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:50:44 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1334346638-23734-23733/5/21; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:50:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:50:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: Changes in Jails from FreeBSD 6 to FreeBSD 9 -- particularly, networking and routing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:50:46 -0000 Do I understand this right? Working in FreeBSD 6.x: interface em0: 1.2.3.4/24 <-- public IP, host only 192.168.1.1/24 <-- private IP, host only 192.168.1.2/24 <-- Jail #1 192.168.1.3/24 <-- Jail #2 With this configuration you had no problems accessing the internet from the jails. Is this correct? This seems bizarre; this should only be possible if you're doing NAT somewhere in there and that is not possible with Jails v1 (which share a network stack) and is only possible in Jails v2 (vnet). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 20:18:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E092106566C for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91A38FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:18:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=jvS48FCd3MJlN/Do+7S4saMU1RKEMYiIlNzo9QHHHvM=; b=J0DGsQaJB6aS0k8A8sfnCLeIU/Hq1gy92wJAbphrjflHXGwH/0btPn4VI3WRkLXP4gzTmjR63tQ7nly+9z16vuVPPb7taB6ydlPurDUM5EyA8TbVWJA5wbE0LKtNAdgQQI+geQSlfxw/iCbjrnn+wh9py1Z5TKpkDeugAQHq24A= Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([71.66.119.144]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:18:04 -0700 Message-ID: <4F8889FD.2080209@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:18:05 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2012 20:18:04.0389 (UTC) FILETIME=[88388150:01CD19B2] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: jail v2 documentation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:18:06 -0000 Where can I find documentation on version 2 of jail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 20:53:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DD91065674 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from mail.shire.net (mail.shire.net [209.41.94.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE658FC16 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-76-27-96-201.hsd1.ut.comcast.net ([76.27.96.201] helo=[192.168.99.216]) by mail.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1SInV8-000KWc-ID for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:53:50 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:53:49 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 76.27.96.201 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: Changes in Jails from FreeBSD 6 to FreeBSD 9 -- particularly, networking and routing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:53:51 -0000 On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > Do I understand this right? >=20 >=20 > Working in FreeBSD 6.x: >=20 > interface em0: 1.2.3.4/24 <-- public IP, host only > 192.168.1.1/24 <-- private IP, host only > 192.168.1.2/24 <-- Jail #1 > 192.168.1.3/24 <-- Jail #2 >=20 >=20 > With this configuration you had no problems accessing the internet = from the jails. correct. (not that it did not matter I don't think is the private IP, host only = exists and ALL IP exist on the host in addition to whatever Jail they = are assigned to) >=20 > Is this correct? This seems bizarre; this should only be possible if = you're doing NAT somewhere in there and that is not possible with Jails = v1 (which share a network stack) and is only possible in Jails v2 = (vnet). No NAT needed since they share the network stack under Jails v1 they = share the routing tables. It works. Try it. The question is, is it possible to do something similar with FreeBSD 9 = jails (v2 I guess) without the overhead of running NAT? The jail with = the private IP *can* access the HOST's public services but not anyone = else's Chad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 21:23:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A778106566B for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F888FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a83-160-85-125.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.160.85.125]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3DLBMY8056644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:11:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3DLBMw8004208 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:11:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:11:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: link_elf: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:23:12 -0000 Hi, I noticed some messages when booting: ... link_elf: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined KLD file atapicam.ko - could not finalize loading ... My /boot/loader.conf includes: ... atapicam_load="YES" hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" ... Entering kldload atapicam gives: kldload: can't load atapicam: No such file or directory Has anyone an idea how to load atapicam.ko? I'm running FreeBSD-9.0-STABLE. Thanks, Marco -- Several years ago, some smart businessmen had an idea: Why not build a big store where a do-it-yourselfer could get everything he needed at reasonable prices? Then they decided, nah, the hell with that, let's build a home center. And before long home centers were springing up like crabgrass all over the United States. -- Dave Barry, "The Taming of the Screw" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 21:52:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879B71065675 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AFB8FC21 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C159A2434C; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3DLpx6l007805; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Marco Beishuizen Message-Id: <20120413235159.885b88b4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:52:01 -0000 On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:11:22 +0200 (CEST), Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed some messages when booting: > ... > link_elf: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined > KLD file atapicam.ko - could not finalize loading > ... > > My /boot/loader.conf includes: > ... > atapicam_load="YES" > hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" > ... > > Entering kldload atapicam gives: > kldload: can't load atapicam: No such file or directory > > Has anyone an idea how to load atapicam.ko? > > I'm running FreeBSD-9.0-STABLE. In FreeBSD 9, loading atapicam should not be neccessary, as it is now part of the GENERIC kernel and has "merged the ATA and SCSI functionality" for disks and optical devices. Try removing it from loader.conf and try again. (Note possible device name changing ad -> ada unless you're using labels.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 21:52:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B107106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@fstaals.net) Received: from isp-bos-01.edutel.nl (isp-bos-01.edutel.nl [88.159.1.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D598FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (unknown [10.115.3.120]) by isp-bos-01.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7762BC53B; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADDA39424D; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at isp-aos-02.edutel.intern Received: from isp-aos-02.edutel.intern ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (isp-aos-02.edutel.intern [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VdAxbYNTGutE; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lacus.fstaals.net (104-208.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl [88.159.208.104]) by isp-aos-02.edutel.intern (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1D7CA394207; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lacus.fstaals.net (unknown [192.168.10.14]) by filter.fstaals.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFFA7F4FB7; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.5.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: frank) by lacus.fstaals.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA9457F4084; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Frank Staals To: gorgarath@ymail.com References: <4F857029.25481.F2968A@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <4F8640B3.5070108@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F87FA38.18304.34FEE4@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <006301cd1980$f898bc80$e9ca3580$@ymail.com> User-Mail-Address: frank@fstaals.net Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <006301cd1980$f898bc80$e9ca3580$@ymail.com> (John McDonnell's message of "Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:23:16 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:52:05 -0000 "John McDonnell" writes: > All in all, creating an entry in Site Manager makes more sense if it's > something you connect to from your own hardware. From someone else's > machine, the quick connect is quite handy though. Don't forget to clear out the entry from the dropdown list then. Because I think FileZilla will remember your password as well. Worst ``feature'' ever if you ask me.... Regards, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 22:58:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140CD1065687 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC908FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:58:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=mhgk0dSJBt3hzeE2xgDF7J8UWycwsd/Vq/YOmixcWP4=; b=VVTV9GW/jyk+emzV4Lh5OIXxx+rTMgp3Mc9FCqlKoP9ioYqbEC3a4dM3+lTCMi2x9cX1aPJ+f3xxGGOqno2MfADyOIE/Q0ASVSz81XajY2nTe7VOgMs62k7Z+5twEhEv; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SIpS6-00090u-6d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:58:51 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1334357923-23734-23733/5/22; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:58:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:58:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: Changes in Jails from FreeBSD 6 to FreeBSD 9 -- particularly, networking and routing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:58:53 -0000 On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:53:49 -0500, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > No NAT needed since they share the network stack under Jails v1 they > share the routing tables. It works. Try it. You're clearly exploiting a bug in FreeBSD 6's jails. It must get confused and send your public IP on those packets. I have no idea how it processes the return traffic successfully, but "that's a neat trick!". There is no possible way for this to work without NAT or whatever bug this is. If a Jail has a 192.168 IP all packets would leave with a source of 192.168. When Google or whoever on the internet gets your packets it would see 192.168 and probably drop it because that's not a publicly routable network. Without NAT it's impossible for any device anywhere on the planet to access the internet with an RFC 1918 IP address. I urge you to share your experience on the freebsd-jail@ mailing list. Those guys might be able to lend some further insight. I bet the change came with the update to jails that allows multiple IPs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 23:01:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56622106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A2E8FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:01:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=aDoIejAW4GeR0nCgbwIROib6VCaEOp9SNh72YC2iB/4=; b=IQIvGVP1Paz/xpcM/kx6uoIn5S4iySC6k57dT+Eh32Mby00u05hqzLF3j9oiRcoqG8eQ9jdnRscQF9uTXqw2TVy9jl5N38mDBlA5hacj6dXvnG/Ghjv9fr7zeWV4KOfJ; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SIpUM-00090u-9B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:01:10 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1334358069-23734-23733/5/23; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:01:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4F8889FD.2080209@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:01:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4F8889FD.2080209@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: jail v2 documentation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:01:11 -0000 On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:05 -0500, wrote: > Where can I find documentation on version 2 of jail? It's quite scare because it's still experimental. I'd look up VNET and VIMAGE. You can probably get more questions answered on the freebsd-jails@ mailing list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 23:10:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41021065673 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEB08FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:10:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=TGWIqs14098+0lVIJ/Vs716jrg4x+SmXqJU1l+9wfS4=; b=FeW9JK1ofpfwmTX2wlHmZ8Fnku9sYZv0hS9qRov/ZSFT2tpHEy8vAZau8pcele9nR/YShKhpZhJLZQfKnUSGEXgv6oSkJOHsFrLRwYuEXVIwkpNRDLM6lNTgHXIkQF9z; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SIpdn-0009dn-9k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:10:55 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1334358649-23734-23733/5/24; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:10:49 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4F8889FD.2080209@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:10:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: jail v2 documentation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:10:56 -0000 On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:01:08 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > freebsd-jails@ My apologies; this should be singular and not plural: freebsd-jail@ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 13 23:44:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFB1106564A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A678FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a83-160-85-125.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.160.85.125]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3DNhifs040063 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:43:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3DNhi2a003165; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:43:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:43:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120413235159.885b88b4.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120413235159.885b88b4.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:44:27 -0000 On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, the wise Polytropon wrote: > In FreeBSD 9, loading atapicam should not be neccessary, > as it is now part of the GENERIC kernel and has "merged > the ATA and SCSI functionality" for disks and optical > devices. Try removing it from loader.conf and try again. > (Note possible device name changing ad -> ada unless > you're using labels.) I just removed the lines from loader.conf and the messages are gone. Everything seems to work fine too. I already changed the device name to ada in fstab, but never removed the obsolete lines in loader.conf. Thanks for the info. Marco -- Man has never reconciled himself to the ten commandments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 00:49:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8E9106566B for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F34E8FC08 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3E0naeY006309; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:49:39 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: Polytropon Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 07:49:40 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201204132259.41385.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120413183716.91bacc9a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120413183716.91bacc9a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204140749.41046.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:49:44 -0000 Hi, On Friday 13 April 2012 23:37:16 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:59:41 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Friday 13 April 2012 20:56:35 Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Erich Dollansky > > > > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:12 AM > > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > Cc: Julian H. Stacey; Tony; Steffen Daode Nurpmeso > > > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity > > > > > > > > On Friday 13 April 2012 18:44:07 Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: > > > > > Julian H. Stacey wrote [2012-04-13 13:13+0200]: > > > > > > The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. > > > > > > > > > > 13. > > > > > Not for all, though. > > > > > > > > 1945 - 1933 gives 12. > > > > > > > > Do I have to start a calculator now? > > > > > > > > > > Its 13 INCLUSIVE. You're calculating exclusive > > > > it also fits better to today's date. > > Fits even better next Friday! ;-) > oh, yeah, the big birthday bash. Is it organised via facebook? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 00:54:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23490106564A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C048FC14 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-101-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.101.40]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBF61D8FA; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:54:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q3E0sefo008668; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:54:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:54:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Message-Id: <20120414025440.f90e0d96.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201204140749.41046.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <201204132259.41385.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120413183716.91bacc9a.freebsd@edvax.de> <201204140749.41046.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:54:43 -0000 On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 07:49:40 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 13 April 2012 23:37:16 Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:59:41 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > On Friday 13 April 2012 20:56:35 Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > > > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Erich Dollansky > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:12 AM > > > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > > Cc: Julian H. Stacey; Tony; Steffen Daode Nurpmeso > > > > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity > > > > > > > > > > On Friday 13 April 2012 18:44:07 Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: > > > > > > Julian H. Stacey wrote [2012-04-13 13:13+0200]: > > > > > > > The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. > > > > > > > > > > > > 13. > > > > > > Not for all, though. > > > > > > > > > > 1945 - 1933 gives 12. > > > > > > > > > > Do I have to start a calculator now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its 13 INCLUSIVE. You're calculating exclusive > > > > > > it also fits better to today's date. > > > > Fits even better next Friday! ;-) > > > oh, yeah, the big birthday bash. Is it organised via facebook? Who with a sane mind would press his face into a book? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 01:48:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458341065675 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rg.lists@rzweb.com) Received: from flabnapple.net (flabnapple.net [216.129.104.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304678FC16 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.flabnapple.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flabnapple.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060D91CC06D; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:48:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:48:19 -0700 From: Ron To: Robert Bonomi In-Reply-To: <201204122054.q3CKskOY027605@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201204122054.q3CKskOY027605@mail.r-bonomi.com> Message-ID: <3a1ed3098e19fe0e93c8f3e47dc4f01b@flabnapple2.net> X-Sender: rg.lists@rzweb.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.7 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:48:26 -0000 On 12.04.2012 13:54, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 12 15:09:43 2012 >> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:01:10 -0700 >> From: Ron >> To: >> Subject: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems >> >> I'm having a couple of issues with postfix and courier-imap on my >> new >> machine and I'm trying to figure out what is different from my old >> machine. I've checked every config file I think of and they both >> seem >> to be set up the same. >> >> Here are the two issues: >> >> If I send email from a local user (while SSH'd in using the command >> line mail) to another local user (mail todd@mysite.com) on the same >> machine, but using the full email address, I get the following error >> and >> the email bounced back: >> >> 553 5.3.5 mail.mysite.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX >> problem?) >> 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error > > this is a 'well known' problem. >> >> The only thing I can think of is that mysite.com and mail.mysite.com >> (the mx record) do not point to the same server (which they did on >> my >> old machine). > > it's not that sample. > >> I have also tried everything I can think of in how >> users >> are listed in postfix's virtual file and in /etc/aliases and server >> entries in main.cf. > > The problem is that the 'local' machine DOES NOT KNOW that it is > supposed > to accept mail for the domain specified in the email addressz. > > The server looks at the address, determines that it is *NOT* local, > by whatever means 'postfix' uses to make that determination (it's the > 'w' class in Sendmail), and goes off to query DNS for the MX for the > 'remote' machine to send mail to. DNS returns "this" (the one asking > for > the 'remote' machine name) machine as the destination to deliver to. > the local server =knows= that is incorrect, because it is not the > delivery > point for that domain. hence the error message, and 'return to > sender' > as undeliverable. > > This _is_ a configuration error in (probably) the local mailserver, > or in > the way the local hostname/domainname are set up.. > >> The second issue is if (again, SSH'd in an using mail) I send email >> to >> a local user without the @mysite.com (mail todd) then the email >> isn't >> available via IMAP externally. I can read it using the command line >> mail, but not externally via IMAP. These two mailboxs are >> completely >> separate and have two different lists of waiting email. > > This is an 'inconsistency' in the way 'locally' generated mail is > being > handled, and the way externally generated mail is being handled. > > *PROBABLY* because -one- mail server program is being started at boot > time, and a _different_ program is being invoked when somebody sends > locally from the command-line. > > Chasing this down can be a b*tch. "Everything and it's cousins" has > the > executable name 'sendmail' hard-coded into it for sending outgoing > mail. > Sometimes the original 'sendmail' is replaced by a different > executable > 'of the same name', that is really 'postfix', 'exim', 'qmail', or the > dreaded 'something else'. Sometimes 'sendmail' is a "switching" > program > that determings -- by some arbitrary means (typically a configurtion > file, > stored 'somewhere')-- _which_ of many alternatives to call. > > Now _if_ the mailer started at boot time is *explicitly* named as > something > _other_ than "sendmail", and is -not- what you get when you invoke > the name > 'sendmail', you have "obvious" potential for dissimilar behavior. > this > is _probably_ what is going on in your case. "Local" command-line > mail > is being delivered to an 'mbox' type mailbox, while 'remote' mail is > being delivered to 'something different' -- I think recent versios of > IMAP use a database-type struture rather than a simple 'mbox'. >> >> Everything works fine if I send email from a remote client >> (Thunderbird, Mail.app) and read the email with a remote client via >> IMAP. It's just the local email sending that seems to be broken. >> I'd >> like to get one of these two problems fixed so root can email me >> daily >> log files, which it can't do right now or I can't read via IMAP >> because >> they are't going to the right mailbox. >> >> Is there some simple I'm just messing up? > > "Yes." > > The difficulty comes in identifying _which_ "simple thing" it is that > is > messed up. OK, I found the problem. It was the hostname not being set correctly. What threw me was that it was correct in the rc.conf file, but I did not know you needed to reboot the machine to have it take effect. It just never occurred to me to run 'hostname' and see since I was seeing it correctly in the rc.conf. Thanks for the help. Ron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 02:19:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116F6106564A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E7C8FC17 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa04 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q3E1PVHU019652; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:19:33 -0500 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 146wtr09m7-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:19:33 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT05.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.16]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:19:32 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Polytropon Thread-Topic: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity Thread-Index: AQHNGeUGdyLHE4zChESBqc/nnAgEsg== Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:19:31 +0000 Message-ID: <86FFAABE-63D5-434A-BBF9-9CDF317049CC@fisglobal.com> References: <201204132259.41385.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120413183716.91bacc9a.freebsd@edvax.de> <201204140749.41046.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120414025440.f90e0d96.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120414025440.f90e0d96.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.14.152.61] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3CC3E90E0573284EBBEE08A0574841DD@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-04-13_09:2012-04-13, 2012-04-13, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Erich Dollansky , "" Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:19:41 -0000 On Apr 13, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 07:49:40 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> On Friday 13 April 2012 23:37:16 Polytropon wrote: >>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:59:41 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>>> On Friday 13 April 2012 20:56:35 Sean Cavanaugh wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >>>>>> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Erich Dollansky >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:12 AM >>>>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>> Cc: Julian H. Stacey; Tony; Steffen Daode Nurpmeso >>>>>> Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Friday 13 April 2012 18:44:07 Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: >>>>>>> Julian H. Stacey wrote [2012-04-13 13:13+0200]: >>>>>>>> The 1000 year Reich lasted 6. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> 13. >>>>>>> Not for all, though. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 1945 - 1933 gives 12. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Do I have to start a calculator now? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Its 13 INCLUSIVE. You're calculating exclusive >>>>=20 >>>> it also fits better to today's date. >>>=20 >>> Fits even better next Friday! ;-) >>>=20 >> oh, yeah, the big birthday bash. Is it organised via facebook? >=20 > Who with a sane mind would press his face into a book? :-) >=20 Certainly _not_ Gutenberg (considering the size of his press, OUCH!!) ;-) --=20 Devin=20 _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 02:26:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61061065672 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596E78FC17 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3E2PrUM029417; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:25:56 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: Polytropon Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:26:02 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201204140749.41046.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120414025440.f90e0d96.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120414025440.f90e0d96.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201204140926.02496.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:26:01 -0000 Hi, On Saturday 14 April 2012 07:54:40 Polytropon wrote: > > > > > Its 13 INCLUSIVE. You're calculating exclusive > > > > > > > > it also fits better to today's date. > > > > > > Fits even better next Friday! ;-) > > > > > oh, yeah, the big birthday bash. Is it organised via facebook? > > Who with a sane mind would press his face into a book? :-) > maybe the same people who wait for next week's big birthday bash? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 08:53:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466A51065672 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86E88FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.24.188] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SIyjP-0006GI-Bm; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:53:19 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q3E8rI4r002817; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:53:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id q3E8rHar002816; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:53:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:53:16 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20120414085316.GA2791@tinyCurrent> References: <201204131334.54249.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120413071831.GA1338@tiny> <201204132010.10128.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201204132010.10128.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.24.188 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:53:27 -0000 El día Friday, April 13, 2012 a las 08:10:09PM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió: > I did but it is too short to see the error. After creating this file, I tried to close X and got into the usual problems. It seems that X does not switch properly back to console video mode (whatever name it has). I switched then to twm and ran into the same problem. Of course, this could have been caused by blackbox from the run before. > > I checked the log files but could not see something which could be the reason for the problem. > > If you tell me what I could do, I could try to find the cause of the problem. Show us /var/log/Xorg.0.log with the hanging X (just go to another alpha console or login remotely); check the proc hierarchy in your system, mine is like this: $ ps axl | fgrep 2194 1001 2194 2176 0 47 0 10844 1980 wait I+ v0 0:00,01 xinit /ho 0 2195 2194 0 45 0 322240 312608 select S v0 3:53,80 X -nolist 1001 2198 2194 0 76 0 9896 1740 wait I v0 0:00,05 /bin/sh / $ ps axl | fgrep 2195 0 2195 2194 0 45 0 322240 312608 select S v0 3:54,22 X -nolist $ ps axl | fgrep 2198 1001 2198 2194 0 76 0 9896 1740 wait I v0 0:00,05 /bin/sh / 1001 2257 2198 0 44 0 9752 1260 nanslp S v0 0:00,29 kwrapper $ ps ax | fgrep 2198 2198 v0 I 0:00,05 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde i.e. xinit (2194) launches X (2195) and a shell (2198) for startkde; which process does not terminate for you; matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11 | UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2 | FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 14:11:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7834E1065673 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF568FC08 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3EEBKOA022417; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:11:22 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: Matthias Apitz Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:11:28 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201204132010.10128.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120414085316.GA2791@tinyCurrent> In-Reply-To: <20120414085316.GA2791@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201204142111.29594.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg doesn't go back correctly to console when closed on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:11:35 -0000 Hi, On Saturday 14 April 2012 15:53:16 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Friday, April 13, 2012 a las 08:10:09PM +0700, Erich Dollansky e= scribi=F3: >=20 > > I did but it is too short to see the error. After creating this file, I= tried to close X and got into the usual problems. It seems that X does not= switch properly back to console video mode (whatever name it has). I switc= hed then to twm and ran into the same problem. Of course, this could have b= een caused by blackbox from the run before. > >=20 > > I checked the log files but could not see something which could be the = reason for the problem. > >=20 > > If you tell me what I could do, I could try to find the cause of the pr= oblem. >=20 > Show us /var/log/Xorg.0.log with the hanging X (just go to another alpha > console or login remotely); >=20 I will copy to the end.=20 > check the proc hierarchy in your system, mine is like this: I cannot do at the moment as some lightning strikes killed all other machin= es here except of this one. I should get 3 new one within the next 2 weeks. Anyway, I wrote me a small script which killed the Xorg process. Everything= was normal after this. X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE amd64=20 Current Operating System: FreeBSD AMD620.ovitrap.com 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD= 8.3-PRERELEASE #35: Mon Apr 2 16:25:36 WIT 2012 erich@AMD620.ovitrap.= com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AsusAMD620 amd64 Build Date: 10 April 2012 05:40:30AM =20 Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Apr 13 11:44:23 2012 (=3D=3D) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (=3D=3D) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "true" (=3D=3D) Automatically adding devices (=3D=3D) Automatically enabling devices (**) FontPath set to: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AutoAddDevices. (II) Loader magic: 0x6993e0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0:0:13:0) 10de:03d6:1043:83a4 NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 70= 25 / nForce 630a] rev 162, Mem @ 0xde000000/16777216, 0xc0000000/268435456,= 0xdd000000/16777216, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specifie= d in the config file. (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified i= n the config file. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified i= n the config file. (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specifie= d in the config file. (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified i= n the config file. (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified = in the config file. (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (=3D=3D) AIGLX disabled (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "dri2" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so (II) Module dri2: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DRI2 (II) LoadModule: "nv" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so (II) Module nv: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 2.1.18 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, Unknown TNT2, Vanta, RIVA TNT2 Ultra, RIVA TNT2 Model 64, Aladdin TNT2, GeForce 256, GeForce DDR, Quadro, GeForce2 MX/MX 400, GeForce2 MX 100/200, GeForce2 Go, Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go, GeForce2 Integrated GPU, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 Ti, GeForce2 Ultra, Quadro2 Pro, GeForce4 MX 460, GeForce4 MX 440, GeForce4 MX 420, GeForce4 MX 440-SE, GeForce4 440 Go, GeForce4 420 Go, GeForce4 420 Go 32M, GeForce4 460 Go, Quadro4 550 XGL, GeForce4 440 Go 64M, Quadro NVS, Quadro4 500 GoGL, GeForce4 410 Go 16M, GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 4000, GeForce4 448 Go, GeForce4 488 Go, Quadro4 580 XGL, Quadro4 NVS 280 SD, Quadro4 380 XGL, Quadro NVS 50 PCI, GeForce4 448 Go, GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU, GeForce3, GeForce3 Ti 200, GeForce3 Ti 500, Quadro DCC, GeForce4 Ti 4600, GeForce4 Ti 4400, GeForce4 Ti 4200, Quadro4 900 XGL, Quadro4 750 XGL, Quadro4 700 XGL, GeForce4 Ti 4800, GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X, GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE, GeForce4 4200 Go, Quadro4 700 GoGL, Quadro4 980 XGL, Quadro4 780 XGL, GeForce FX 5800 Ultra, GeForce FX 5800, Quadro FX 2000, Quadro FX 1000, GeForce FX 5600 Ultra, GeForce FX 5600, GeForce FX 5600XT, GeForce FX Go5600, GeForce FX Go5650, Quadro FX Go700, GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra, GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200LE, GeForce FX Go5200, GeForce FX Go5250, GeForce FX 5500, GeForce FX 5100, GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M, Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI, Quadro FX 500/600 PCI, GeForce FX Go53xx Series, GeForce FX Go5100, GeForce FX 5900 Ultra, GeForce FX 5900, GeForce FX 5900XT, GeForce FX 5950 Ultra, GeForce FX 5900ZT, Quadro FX 3000, Quadro FX 700, GeForce FX 5700 Ultra, GeForce FX 5700, GeForce FX 5700LE, GeForce FX 5700VE, GeForce FX Go5700, GeForce FX Go5700, Quadro FX Go1000, Quadro FX 1100, GeForce 6800 Ultra, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 XE, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 GS, GeForce 6800 XT, Quadro FX 4000, GeForce 6800 GS, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce Go 6800, GeForce Go 6800 Ultra, Quadro FX Go1400, Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI, Quadro FX 1400, GeForce 6600 GT, GeForce 6600, GeForce 6600 LE, GeForce 6600 VE, GeForce Go 6600, GeForce 6610 XL, GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE, GeForce 6700 XL, GeForce Go 6600, GeForce Go 6600 GT, Quadro NVS 440, Quadro FX 550, Quadro FX 550, Quadro FX 540, GeForce 6200, GeForce 6500, GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM), GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(TM), GeForce 6200 LE, GeForce Go 6200, Quadro NVS 285, GeForce Go 6400, GeForce Go 6200, GeForce Go 6400, GeForce 6250, GeForce 7100 GS, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce 6200, GeForce 6200 A-LE, GeForce 7800 GTX, GeForce 7800 GTX, GeForce 7800 GT, GeForce 7800 GS, GeForce 7800 SLI, GeForce Go 7800, GeForce Go 7800 GTX, Quadro FX 4500, GeForce 7350 LE, GeForce 7300 LE, GeForce 7300 SE, GeForce Go 7200, GeForce Go 7300, GeForce Go 7400, GeForce Go 7400 GS, Quadro NVS 110M, Quadro NVS 120M, Quadro FX 350M, GeForce 7500 LE, Quadro FX 350, GeForce 7300 GS, GeForce 7650 GS, GeForce 7600 GT, GeForce 7600 GS, GeForce 7300 GT, GeForce 7600 LE, GeForce 7300 GT, GeForce Go 7700, GeForce Go 7600, GeForce Go 7600 GT, Quadro NVS 300M, GeForce Go 7900 SE, Quadro FX 550M, Quadro FX 560, GeForce 7900 GTX, GeForce 7900 GT, GeForce 7900 GS, GeForce 7950 GX2, GeForce 7950 GX2, GeForce 7950 GT, GeForce Go 7950 GTX, GeForce Go 7900 GS, GeForce Go 7900 GTX, Quadro FX 2500M, Quadro FX 1500M, Quadro FX 5500, Quadro FX 3500, Quadro FX 1500, Quadro FX 4500 X2, GeForce 6150, GeForce 6150 LE, GeForce 6100, GeForce Go 6150, Quadro NVS 210S / NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE, GeForce Go 6100, GeForce 6150SE, GeForce 6100 nForce 405, GeForce 6100 nForce 400, GeForce 6100 nForce 420, GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M, GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M, GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a, GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a, GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a, GeForce 8800 GTX, GeForce 8800 GTS, GeForce 8800 Ultra, Quadro FX 5600, Quadro FX 4600, GeForce 8600 GTS, GeForce 8600 GT, GeForce 8600 GT, GeForce 8600 GS, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 9500M GS, GeForce 8300 GS, GeForce 8600M GT, GeForce 9650M GS, GeForce 8700M GT, Quadro FX 370, Quadro NVS 320M, Quadro FX 570M, Quadro FX 1600M, Quadro FX 570, Quadro FX 1700, GeForce GT 330, GeForce 8400 SE, GeForce 8500 GT, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 8300 GS, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 8600M GS, GeForce 8400M GT, GeForce 8400M GS, GeForce 8400M G, Quadro NVS 140M, Quadro NVS 130M, Quadro NVS 135M, GeForce 9400 GT, Quadro FX 360M, GeForce 9300M G, Quadro NVS 290, GeForce GTX 295, GeForce GTX 280, GeForce GTX 260, GeForce GTX 285, GeForce GTX 275, GeForce GTX 260, GeForce GTX 295, Quadroplex 2200 D2, Quadroplex 2200 S4, Quadro CX, Quadro FX 5800, Quadro FX 4800, Quadro FX 3800, GeForce 8800 GTS 512, GeForce 9800 GT, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce GT 230, GeForce 9800 GX2, GeForce 9800 GT, GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce GTS 240, GeForce 9800M GTX, GeForce 8800M GTS, GeForce GTX 280M, GeForce 9800M GT, GeForce 8800M GTX, GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce GTX 285M, GeForce 9600 GSO, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+, GeForce 9800 GTX+, GeForce 9800 GT, GeForce GTS 250, GeForce 9800M GTX, GeForce GTX 260M, Quadro FX 4700 X2, Quadro FX 3700, Quadro VX 200, Quadro FX 3600M, Quadro FX 2800M, Quadro FX 3700M, Quadro FX 3800M, GeForce 9600 GT, GeForce 9600 GS, GeForce 9600 GSO 512, GeForce GT 130, GeForce GT 140, GeForce 9800M GTS, GeForce 9700M GTS, GeForce 9800M GS, GeForce 9800M GTS, GeForce 9600 GT, GeForce 9600 GT, GeForce GTS 160M, GeForce GTS 150M, GeForce 9600 GSO, GeForce 9600 GT, Quadro FX 1800, Quadro FX 2700M, GeForce 9500 GT, GeForce 9400 GT, GeForce 9500 GT, GeForce 9500 GS, GeForce 9500 GS, GeForce GT 120, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce 9600M GS, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce 9700M GT, GeForce 9500M G, GeForce 9650M GT, GeForce G 110M, GeForce GT 130M, GeForce GT 120M, GeForce GT 220M, GeForce 9650 S, Quadro FX 380, Quadro FX 580, Quadro FX 1700M, GeForce 9400 GT, Quadro FX 770M, GeForce 9300 GE, GeForce 9300 GS, GeForce 8400, GeForce 8400 SE, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 9300M GS, GeForce G100, GeForce 9300 SE, GeForce 9200M GS, GeForce 9300M GS, Quadro NVS 150M, Quadro NVS 160M, GeForce G 105M, GeForce G 103M, GeForce G105M, Quadro NVS 420, Quadro FX 370 LP, Quadro NVS 450, Quadro FX 370M, Quadro NVS 295, GeForce 9100M G, GeForce 8200M G, GeForce 9200, GeForce 9100, GeForce 8300, GeForce 8200, nForce 730a, GeForce 9200, nForce 980a/780a SLI, nForce 750a SLI, GeForce 8100 / nForce 720a, GeForce 9400, GeForce 9400, GeForce 9400M G, GeForce 9400M, GeForce 9300, ION, GeForce 9400M G, GeForce 9400, nForce 760i SLI, GeForce 9400, GeForce 9300 / nForce 730i, GeForce 9200, GeForce 9100M G, GeForce 8200M G, GeForce 9400M, GeForce 9200, GeForce G102M, GeForce G102M, ION, ION, GeForce 9400, ION, ION LE, ION LE, GeForce GT 220, GeForce 315, GeForce 210, GeForce GT 230M, GeForce GT 330M, GeForce GT 230M, GeForce GT 330M, NVS 5100M, GeForce GT 320M, GeForce GT 240M, GeForce GT 325M, Quadro FX 880M, GeForce G210, GeForce 205, GeForce 310, ION, GeForce 210, GeForce 310, GeForce 315, GeForce G105M, GeForce G105M, NVS 2100M, NVS 3100M, GeForce 305M, ION, GeForce 310M, GeForce 305M, GeForce 310M, GeForce 305M, GeForce G210M, GeForce 310M, Quadro FX 380 LP, Quadro FX 380M, GeForce GT 330, GeForce GT 320, GeForce GT 240, GeForce GT 340, GeForce GT 330, GeForce GTS 260M, GeForce GTS 250M, GeForce 315, GeForce GT 335M, GeForce GTS 350M, GeForce GTS 360M, Quadro FX 1800M (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00@00:0d:0 (--) NV: Found NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] at 00@00:13:0 (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so (II) Module int10: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) NV(0): Initializing int10 (=3D=3D) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (=3D=3D) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear (II) NV(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (=3D=3D) NV(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (--) NV(0): Chipset: "Unknown NVIDIA chipset" (=3D=3D) NV(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (=3D=3D) NV(0): RGB weight 888 (=3D=3D) NV(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so (II) Module vgahw: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (=3D=3D) NV(0): Using HW cursor (--) NV(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xC0000000 (--) NV(0): MMIO registers at 0xDE000000 (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c" (II) Module "i2c" already built-in (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Module "ddc" already built-in (II) NV(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized. (II) NV(0): Probing for analog device on output A... (--) NV(0): ...found one (II) NV(0): Probing for analog device on output B... (--) NV(0): ...can't find one (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus A... (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) NV(0): ... none found (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus B... (II) NV(0): I2C device "DDC:DDC control interface" registered at address 0x= 6E. (--) NV(0): DDC detected a CRT: (II) NV(0): Manufacturer: PHL Model: c08e Serial#: 58 (II) NV(0): Year: 2011 Week: 41 (II) NV(0): EDID Version: 1.3 (II) NV(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V (II) NV(0): Sync: Separate Composite SyncOnGreen (II) NV(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 48 vert.: 27 (II) NV(0): Gamma: 2.20 (II) NV(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display (II) NV(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) NV(0): redX: 0.628 redY: 0.331 greenX: 0.308 greenY: 0.625 (II) NV(0): blueX: 0.154 blueY: 0.072 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 (II) NV(0): Supported established timings: (II) NV(0): 720x400@70Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@60Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@67Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@72Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@75Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@60Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@60Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1280x1024@75Hz (II) NV(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) NV(0): Supported standard timings: (II) NV(0): #0: hsize: 1920 vsize 1080 refresh: 60 vid: 49361 (II) NV(0): #1: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 (II) NV(0): #2: hsize: 1440 vsize 900 refresh: 75 vid: 3989 (II) NV(0): #3: hsize: 1440 vsize 900 refresh: 60 vid: 149 (II) NV(0): #4: hsize: 1680 vsize 1050 refresh: 60 vid: 179 (II) NV(0): Supported detailed timing: (II) NV(0): clock: 148.5 MHz Image Size: 480 x 268 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 1920 h_sync: 2008 h_sync_end 2052 h_blank_end 2200 = h_border: 0 (II) NV(0): v_active: 1080 v_sync: 1084 v_sync_end 1089 v_blanking: 1125 = v_border: 0 (II) NV(0): Serial No: AU31141000058 (II) NV(0): Monitor name: 227EQPH (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 56 V max: 76 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 83 kHz, PixClo= ck max 170 MHz (II) NV(0): EDID (in hex): (II) NV(0): 00ffffffffffff00410c8ec03a000000 (II) NV(0): 291501036e301b782afca5a0544ea027 (II) NV(0): 125054bd4b00d1c08180950f9500b300 (II) NV(0): 010101010101023a801871382d40582c (II) NV(0): 4500e00c1100001e000000ff00415533 (II) NV(0): 31313431303030303538000000fc0032 (II) NV(0): 3237455150480a2020202020000000fd (II) NV(0): 00384c1e5311000a20202020202000e2 (--) NV(0): CRTC 0 appears to have a CRT attached (II) NV(0): Using CRT on CRTC 0 (II) NV(0): EDID vendor "PHL", prod id 49294 (II) NV(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync (II) NV(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh (II) NV(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) NV(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0 148.50 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 108= 4 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 6= 28 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 50= 0 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 52= 0 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 52= 5 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 52= 5 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 44= 9 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 102= 5 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 7= 72 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 7= 77 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 6= 25 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x60.0 172.80 1920 2040 2248 2576 1080 10= 81 1084 1118 -hsync +vsync (67.1 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 102= 5 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0 136.75 1440 1536 1688 1936 900 903 9= 09 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0 106.50 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 9= 09 934 -hsync +vsync (55.9 kHz) (II) NV(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 105= 3 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz) (--) NV(0): VideoRAM: 32768 kBytes (=3D=3D) NV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-83.00 kHz (II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 56.00-76.00 Hz (II) NV(0): Monitor0: Using maximum pixel clock of 170.00 MHz (II) NV(0): Estimated virtual size for aspect ratio 1.7778 is 1920x1080 (II) NV(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 400.00 MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (height too large for virtua= l size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (width too large for virtual= size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (width too large for virtual= size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (width too large for virtual= size) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using driver mode "1920x1080" (mode clock too high) (--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1920x1080 (pitch 1920) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "1920x1080": 148.5 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x60.0 148.50 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 10= 84 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "1680x1050": 146.2 MHz, 65.3 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x60.0 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 10= 53 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1400x1050": 155.8 MHz, 81.5 kHz, 74.8 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1400x1050"x74.8 155.80 1400 1464 1784 1912 1050 10= 52 1064 1090 +hsync +vsync (81.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1400x1050": 122.0 MHz, 64.9 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1400x1050"x60.0 122.00 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 10= 52 1064 1082 +hsync +vsync (64.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 10= 25 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "1280x1024": 108.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x60.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 10= 25 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 10= 25 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 108.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x60.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 10= 25 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "1440x900": 136.8 MHz, 70.6 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1440x900"x75.0 136.75 1440 1536 1688 1936 900 903 = 909 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "1440x900": 106.5 MHz, 55.9 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1440x900"x59.9 106.50 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 = 909 934 -hsync +vsync (55.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1280x960": 108.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x960"x60.0 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 = 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 = 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 = 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 = 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 = 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 = 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 = 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "896x672": 102.4 MHz, 83.7 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "896x672"x60.0 102.40 896 960 1060 1224 672 672 674= 697 doublescan -hsync +vsync (83.7 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 = 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 = 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 = 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 = 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 = 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "800x600": 87.8 MHz, 81.2 kHz, 65.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x65.0 87.75 800 832 928 1080 600 600 602 = 625 doublescan +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 = 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "800x600": 81.0 MHz, 75.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.0 81.00 800 832 928 1080 600 600 602 = 625 doublescan +hsync +vsync (75.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 = 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "700x525": 77.9 MHz, 81.5 kHz, 74.8 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "700x525"x74.8 77.90 700 732 892 956 525 526 532 5= 45 doublescan +hsync +vsync (81.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "700x525": 61.0 MHz, 64.9 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "700x525"x60.0 61.00 700 744 820 940 525 526 532 5= 41 doublescan +hsync +vsync (64.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "640x512": 67.5 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x512"x75.0 67.50 640 648 720 844 512 512 514 5= 33 doublescan +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "640x512": 54.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x512"x60.0 54.00 640 664 720 844 512 512 514 5= 33 doublescan +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 5= 00 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 5= 20 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "640x480": 30.2 MHz, 35.0 kHz, 66.7 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x66.7 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 5= 25 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 5= 25 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 5= 00 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 5= 20 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "640x480": 54.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0 54.00 640 688 744 900 480 480 482 5= 00 doublescan +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 5= 25 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Driver mode "720x400": 28.3 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 4= 49 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "576x432": 54.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "576x432"x75.0 54.00 576 608 672 800 432 432 434 4= 50 doublescan +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "512x384": 39.4 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384"x75.0 39.38 512 520 568 656 384 384 386 4= 00 doublescan +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "512x384": 37.5 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384"x70.1 37.50 512 524 592 664 384 385 388 4= 03 doublescan -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "512x384": 32.5 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384"x60.0 32.50 512 524 592 672 384 385 388 4= 03 doublescan -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "416x312": 28.6 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.7 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "416x312"x74.7 28.64 416 432 464 576 312 312 314 3= 33 doublescan -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "400x300": 24.8 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300"x75.1 24.75 400 408 448 528 300 300 302 3= 12 doublescan +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "400x300": 25.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300"x72.2 25.00 400 428 488 520 300 318 321 3= 33 doublescan +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "400x300": 20.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300"x60.3 20.00 400 420 484 528 300 300 302 3= 14 doublescan +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "400x300": 18.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.3 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300"x56.3 18.00 400 412 448 512 300 300 301 3= 12 doublescan +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x240"x75.0 15.75 320 328 360 420 240 240 242 2= 50 doublescan -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x240"x72.8 15.75 320 332 352 416 240 244 246 2= 60 doublescan -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): *Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "320x240"x60.1 12.59 320 328 376 400 240 245 246 2= 62 doublescan -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Display dimensions: (480, 270) mm (**) NV(0): DPI set to (101, 101) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so (II) Module xaa: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.2.1 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (=3D=3D) NV(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (=3D=3D) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) NV(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Scanline Image Writes Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 32 256x256 slots 13 512x512 slots (=3D=3D) NV(0): Backing store disabled (=3D=3D) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled (=3D=3D) NV(0): DPMS enabled (=3D=3D) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 (II) config/hal: Adding input device Trackball (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.6.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 (**) Trackball: Device: "/dev/sysmouse" (=3D=3D) Trackball: Protocol: "Auto" (**) Trackball: always reports core events (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" (=3D=3D) Trackball: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Trackball: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Trackball: Buttons: 9 (**) Trackball: Sensitivity: 1 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Trackball" (type: MOUSE) (**) Trackball: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) Trackball: (accel) acceleration profile 0 (II) Trackball: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Trackball: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (II) config/hal: Adding input device Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version =3D 1.5.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 (**) Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000: Protocol: standard (**) Option "XkbRules" "base" (**) Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000: XkbRules: "base" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000" (ty= pe: KEYBOARD) (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button a successful shutdown adds these two lines: (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" (II) UnloadModule: "kbd" Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 15:51:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7506E106564A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360A48FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q3EFpam0003984; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:51:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:51:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201204141551.q3EFpam0003984@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rg.lists@rzweb.com In-Reply-To: <3a1ed3098e19fe0e93c8f3e47dc4f01b@flabnapple2.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:51:28 -0000 > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:48:19 -0700 > From: Ron > To: Robert Bonomi > Subject: Re: Postfix + Courier IMAP local email problems > > On 12.04.2012 13:54, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> > >> Is there some simple I'm just messing up? > > > > "Yes." > > > > The difficulty comes in identifying _which_ "simple thing" it is that > > is > > messed up. > > OK, I found the problem. It was the hostname not being set correctly. > What threw me was that it was correct in the rc.conf file, but I did not > know you needed to reboot the machine to have it take effect. It just > never occurred to me to run 'hostname' and see since I was seeing it > correctly in the rc.conf. FYI, while it's true tht rc.conf is processed only t boot time, you don't _have_ to reboot when you make a change. What you _do_ need to do is run the same commands the the rc processing does. Unfortunately, with the 'rc.d'-style process, where rc.conf just sets environment variables, and everything else happens 'by magic', it can be a major effort to figure out -what- commands need to be run when you change something, and 'reboot' *is* the simplest way to get the job done. One reason _I_ much prefer the "old" BSD-style '/etc/rc.boot' and '/etc/rc.local' approch. It was =far= simpler to see exactly what was going on, in what order, and with what params. Tracking stuff through the rc.d/* swamp is a 'project' -- there is a whole nuther 'command language' to master. :(( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 16:54:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949D9106564A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4262F8FC17 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-108-1-81-175.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [108.1.81.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA2F97712 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 828745C68 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:28:52 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20120414122852.36343aa5.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make world error 9.0-RELEASE #0 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:54:44 -0000 Hello All, I'm trying to build world after having csupped, but the build fails with: c++ -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -DLLVM_HOSTTRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd9.0\" -fstack-protector -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema/SemaTemplateVariadic.cpp c++ -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -DLLVM_HOSTTRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd9.0\" -fstack-protector -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema/SemaType.cpp c++ -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -DLLVM_HOSTTRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd9.0\" -fstack-protector -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema/TargetAttributesSema.cpp c++ -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema -I. -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -DLLVM_HOSTTRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd9.0\" -fstack-protector -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema/SemaChecking.cpp {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:57706: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:71548: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted {standard input}:71876: Error: no such instruction: `su' {standard input}:58857: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 2 errors *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error The build log is at: http://wwwp.3dresearch.com/KONSTANZE2012041401_buildworld Would you please advise? -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 19:59:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BA8106566C for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 19:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3304E8FC12 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 19:59:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=Gr3AJeO5qosFK6ETq4AbmZQj6cOr8+sYfcYIpb6ob4E=; b=J+jkOuiytyNmSJwL7HwBOrOxR0dbOsKipF1V5lEESa+SZjBYzaHzj8wqGBKAE8Yk4w0pe/oqezzi9OX52m/Z9w9ULo7E/N1krnR5UybJNIZTvYv6yg1gfwD6WcQ1sYDLtwzX9xF6JSpPNKcVoCk5gOz8Jo+oPXa4HKQoIQT2L60= Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([71.66.119.144]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:59:44 -0700 Message-ID: <4F89D733.3050304@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:59:47 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Felder References: <4F8889FD.2080209@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Apr 2012 19:59:44.0232 (UTC) FILETIME=[22E39E80:01CD1A79] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: jail v2 documentation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 19:59:50 -0000 Mark Felder wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:05 -0500, wrote: > >> Where can I find documentation on version 2 of jail? > > It's quite scare because it's still experimental. I'd look up VNET and > VIMAGE. You can probably get more questions answered on the > freebsd-jails@ mailing list. > > I don't see any v2 in the jail environment. Vimage is a separate software module that is not part of the the system base release. It has to be compiled into a custom kernel to be enabled and it's labeled as experimental, "use at your own risk". Not some thing I would want in my jail environment. So the bottom line is there is no version 2 of the jail environment,(IE changes to the jail command and its associate commands). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 21:19:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCEB106564A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9638FC08 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:19:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=vmiEpxjH2GgEpXaQsemqsvlUdSfisZChUYheMkHMhVA=; b=KE/R1FoDdN7ikn/xN6clM0DlT2s8zKBkPGu7VI6n206qEAe+nI1HAALnBVxn1lC7EYJelHqmC6/IqChm0sVNY0agLfP5TLdq/CazT6UITCHyCtq6Jdl011KdJbDTMzsP; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SJANO-0001iN-7q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:19:23 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1334438356-23734-23733/5/26; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:19:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F8889FD.2080209@a1poweruser.com> <4F89D733.3050304@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:19:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4F89D733.3050304@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: jail v2 documentation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:19:25 -0000 On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:59:47 -0500, wrote: > > I don't see any v2 in the jail environment. Vimage is a separate > software module that is not part of the the system base release. It has > to be compiled into a custom kernel to be enabled and it's labeled as > experimental, "use at your own risk". Not some thing I would want in my > jail environment. So the bottom line is there is no version 2 of the > jail environment,(IE changes to the jail command and its associate > commands). > Actual changes to the jail command can be found here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2011-July/001568.html How to use the jails v2 is covered many places. It does indeed exist, and you can probably use the package here to get yourself started because the rc.d script for jails is not updated to handle v2 jails. http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/vimage.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 21:58:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4940106564A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce-dk949387f7gjty@bizfinance.us) Received: from bizfinance.us (1234ezmoney.com [65.111.168.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB578FC08 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bizfinance.us (1234ezmoney.com [65.111.168.222]) (Authenticated sender: bounce-dk949387f7gjty@bizfinance.us) by sp1.tristateweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B253826076BB for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 17:58:43 -0400 (EDT) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 sp1.tristateweb.com B253826076BB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bizfinance.us; s=default; t=1334440723; bh=2jrE63jCZ+Ddf6IePrsVUYcZI4ZyZhHfC1EjOlHiNcE=; h=To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=G03eweJUDdRfdwXNbBQ46fR/SpJFBy8JN7ngP2GXDK1GlpQZvdh5Fqh/UxtMM+qDN ZNFaeLvT0BaEyvHMAFSwcM8hf+39GqlzT7OlwmhBP4bqnp459HYu1OA8crHK2rL8pv gx1Pp0WbfORGfEmtPHJUhjHOsg+AwSPgaUXiAoKE= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:30:20 -0400 From: "Jason Harmon" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer-LID: 12,13,11,8,6,5,16 X-Mailer-SID: 23 X-Mailer-Sent-By: 2 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Small Merchant Money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jasonharmon@bizfinance.us List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:58:44 -0000 Your email client cannot read this email. 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Jason 508-216-0525 To stop receiving these emails:http://bizfinance.us/em/unsubscribe.php?M=23408&C=13afd7e8835e94f7985a768cab34f758&L=5&N=23 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 23:02:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF891065670 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 23:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB05A8FC12 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 23:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-108-1-81-175.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [108.1.81.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DB6D74FD for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 19:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A74F55C5D for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 19:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 19:02:12 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20120414190212.6976bc48.web@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20120414122852.36343aa5.web@3dresearch.com> References: <20120414122852.36343aa5.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: make world error 9.0-RELEASE #0 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 23:02:24 -0000 On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:28:52 -0400 Janos Dohanics wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm trying to build world after having csupped, but the build fails > with: > > [...] > c++ -O2 -pipe > -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/include > -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include > -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema > -I. > -I/usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/../../lib/clang/include > -DLLVM_ON_UNIX -DLLVM_ON_FREEBSD -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS > -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -DLLVM_HOSTTRIPLE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd9.0 > \" -fstack-protector -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti > -c /usr/src/lib/clang/libclangsema/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/lib/Sema/SemaChecking.cpp > {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:57706: > Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted {standard > input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:71548: Warning: end of > file not at end of a line; newline inserted {standard input}:71876: > Error: no such instruction: `su' {standard input}:58857: Error: > suffix or operands invalid for `mov' c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 > (program cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report. See > for instructions. *** Error code 1 > c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) Please submit a full > bug report. See for instructions. > *** Error code 1 > [...] I wanted to note that the error occurred when I used make buildworld with the -j8 switch. Without the -j8 switch the build completed without errors. -- Janos Dohanics