From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 21:34:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCC010656D8; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jules.stocks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508868FC17; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so1874612bwz.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:34:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=tUvxLvaIpPw+6LmC3dEAXGxOtYNsQZr9VEg/N0wPUj8=; b=LgEmlW1hmlGrjNev92d4Im/IQdBeem3Xry5HI0Tc7GgBkylgNenNwifNT6ggjqmEU5 qn4a8/vrjnzhQpQT+KSdsUE9YG3PslZ5hcN6Mz9d/ZqECz6LESAsTe2Jvdqd9n+XaIE2 RGWoFUYxhYurJCIQURwiy4oczMxHGyNRMjeqo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Bv8NflsYwyNDqMnAGZ6l8FWsbjYpPaRcE2t1iPBpw1YWUzIaIQAmD2lhO4n4LzRcYc HJzfPm9XLc5+Hfu4J3z3eF72vzZyu4bhRyhzBfWIK0A1pRexpSik8ADljnBjb2Co6oTg 5ts/q/ALRs+m8GcZb/cw1w0oM/etXgjGJav9I= Received: by 10.204.59.69 with SMTP id k5mr917272bkh.195.1284066198151; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.99.205 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:02:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jules Gilbert Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:02:58 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:34:22 -0000 About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. Some questions: Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. Does this problem exist with Sun's x86 OS? Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way to do this. Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting the FreeBSD community.