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Date:      Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:18:29 -0600
From:      "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
To:        Rasputin <rasputin@submonkey.net>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: /etc/make.conf question
Message-ID:  <4.3.2.20020313115014.034f9180@207.227.119.2>
In-Reply-To: <20020313102001.A2332@shikima.mine.nu>
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At 10:20 AM 3/13/02 +0000, Rasputin wrote:

>Really? I'm sure it's just 'buildkernel installkernel', therefore
>the installkernel target should only run in buildkernel succeeds.

I was thinking it was a reference to the "old" method and didn't look at 
the make files.  Yes, it should work like that, but as a not officially 
support way it may not always be there.

No matter, it's not good to publicly suggest non-standard procedures.  Just 
look at all those with failed builds or "problems."  Matthew's "make update 
buildworld kernel" is even worse as doing an update without knowing you are 
in the middle of a mass commit is one way to break a build.  Many think 
it's just cool to pull source and do a build from time to time without 
checking -cvs mail end up in just such a situation.

Better to pull and wait at least a short time before building to ensure one 
has all the commits of a change.  Typically I pull and if nothing crops up 
in the next day, I start a build.  Unless I need/want something, then an 
hour will (most times) avoid the mid-commit breakages.  Can only recall a 
very few times having a problem building over the years.

Of course most don't know pulling sources again and then trying the build 
once more *before* complaining of breakage *should* be the first thing to 
do, so there are many false alarms.  8-)


Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net
Systems/Network Administrator
FreeBSD - the power to serve


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