From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 9 23:58:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6748D106564A; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 23:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDB18FC0C; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 23:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oA9NwRFK028665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:58:27 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 660071CC0E; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:58:27 -0800 (PST) To: Garrett Cooper In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:45:00 PST." Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:58:27 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20101109235827.660071CC0E@ptavv.es.net> Cc: "C. P. Ghost" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Only display ACPI bootmenu key if ACPI is present X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 23:58:29 -0000 > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:45:00 -0800 > From: Garrett Cooper > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:58 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:14 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > >> This patch changes the Forth code for the Beastie menu to only display the > >> menu option to enable or disable ACPI if the loader detects ACPI.  This avoids > >> displaying a menu item prompting to enable ACPI if the BIOS doesn't actually > >> include ACPI.  Any objections? > > > > Wouldn't that be a POLA violation? Some admins may be used to the > > current menu, and would be scratching head as what went wrong. > > Maybe it would be better to keep the menu option, but make it > > non-selectable and print next to it something like "(not available)"? > > Yeah... seems like it would be; besides, I'm kind of used to > pressing numbers 4 and 6 when I have a boot menu :). > Thanks! Wait a minute. The menu is a POLA violation. I'm used to hitting 'boot -s' and entering just '4' is clearly not the way the Lord meant it to be. (I edit the loader.4th file to turn it off o my personal systems, being an old curmudgeon.) If you are going to use a menu at all, why not make it as functional as possible? If someone has menus on and hits '4' with the PCBSD menu, it won't do what it does now, but it won't really do anything at all until you tell it to go. As POLA violations go this is nothing compared to when the menu appeared. I say, "Go 4 IT!" -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751