From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 5 07:06:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080FE16A420 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (dsl081-163-122.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.163.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AFF13C45B for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB578cgR010908 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 23:08:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <47564DF8.7070000@highperformance.net> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:06:32 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <47545965.70704@chuckr.org> <200712031542.55825.linimon@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200712031542.55825.linimon@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Subject: Re: All those 'Ports System Re-engrg" posts X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:06:37 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: >>Seeing as no one here who has the ability to do the job also still has >>enough innocence to get snagged into it Teehee! Mark Linimon wrote: > He lost me around the "these days, the horsepower to rebuild > ports is easily available." He clearly has not idea, whatsoever, > of what the current work is. My recent attempts to deal with port management in my own unique (foolish?) way has me considering this conclusion. Let FreeBSD do all the work by taking advantage of binary package installs. Then do my custom patched stuff later. I'm sort of scratching my head as to why I have been rolling my own all these years. (mumble grumble Kerberos mumble grumble) Frankly I am amazed that you can build a large chunk of thousands of ports. Ports have weathered the decade pretty well. I seem to recall Jordan writing that the ports system was never intended to last as long as it did. I think he said the same thing about sysinstall. Later, Jason