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Date:      Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:03:49 -0700
From:      Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
To:        Erich Dollansky <erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Plant <noc@hdk5.net>
Subject:   Re: Spam and more spam.
Message-ID:  <20121012050349.GA12573@ethic.thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <20121012104934.0b58c903@X220.ovitrap.com>
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49:34AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi Gary,
> 
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700
> Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > 
> > 	hello erich and everyone,
> > 
> > 	im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, 
> 
> oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would
> not be able to sleep then either.


	ha!  never, never have I bought even one dos/doze computer.  my
	daughter was given an old [1998] w2k box that she played games on.
	it is long-gone:)
> 
> > 	so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still
> > on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below.  but at the
> > bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email.  if
> > you can gleen anything from it, excellent.  I get other *non*-8859
> > 	iso encoded email.  {Note that I still use mutt as my mua.
> > until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non-
> > 	Latin characters.
> 
> Let me see what you got.
> 
> > 	for my appending the spam that I got from <wherever>.  it
> > 	might have been sent from Anywhere.  
> 
> It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of
> FreeBSD have been between.
> > 	


	it looks to me like this [and probably my other junk email] is
	coming from the lines in my ~/.fetchmailrc that go out and 
	pull in what is sent to my gmail account.  [rarely, there is
	spam from one of the freebsd lists--usually questions.]  instead 
	of getting mad, I just hit "d" and move on.  
> > 
> > >From uhrda-15@googlegroups.com  Thu Oct 11 01:14:43 2012
> > Received: from pop.where.secureserver.net [173.201.193.199]
> > 	by ethos.thought.org with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.22)
> > 	for <kline@localhost> (single-drop); Thu, 11 Oct 2012
> > 01:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11377 invoked by uid 30297); 11
> > Oct 2012 08:13:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO
> > p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) ([72.167.238.180])
> > (envelope-sender
> > <uhrda-15+bncBDNZZGHSYENBBOH73GBQKGQE66YII2I@googlegroups.com>) by
> > p3plsmtp12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for
> > <kline@thought.org>; 11 Oct 2012 08:13:50 -0000
> > X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result:
> > AiMSADx+dlDRVda4k2dsb2JhbABEgkuDR7Z6gT9nCCMBAQEBCQkLCRQEI4IjBQIPAg8dAQEEFh4FAQIBBQIIPQcCAgIBAQEZBREBBQERJAUdh08BEguaNwkDimhuT4J2AQWFCAoZgQ2IdQIEi0eFDoESB4hUhECXIz9Fg2o
> > Received: from mail-ob0-f184.google.com ([209.85.214.184]) by
> > p3pismtp01-046.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2012
> > 01:13:50 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f184.google.com with SMTP id
> > x4sf1055803obh.21 for <kline@thought.org>; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46
> > -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
> > d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806;
> > h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type;
> >         bh=jMFZmAQdT+pN7T6QKNSP2XkXpR1aCJ1+Wwtbzb2StxM=;
> >         b=jPb2itO+q4lJZ9J8x8DIaPCegwCUkLJvIshfIA680YoMkZXW75RlpD+gCRtmmdsU7g
> >          A6qeq75zQpbzkMHzwCXyQjNCxXFN/J2Ldi5AChZgi21i0BCELW7gOpBxcsdcpwr6qlGy
> >          rVjws1Cnyzx/sZ6nX7J+Y1escXN7oPTWVQL6aqqqgkGXpW8ce6vJLE/lAEke8Jsdx2QW
> >          hZ+klU5MPA700mA+ZE+0qYGHSv2D9DolX3+ilivKy9QiMHYFpyt+/njC533tyTtRISxu
> >          j3QpnxjbSv+MYMy7bg4RPFtnZQY7wYvK0NWXQymo5VLtjvxu0QXDJPghZDEsrMtgVnOE
> >          o5jw==
> > Received: by 10.52.28.45 with SMTP id y13mr7790vdg.10.1349943226444;
> >         Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > X-BeenThere: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com
> > Received: by 10.220.141.4 with SMTP id k4ls1027454vcu.8.gmail; Thu,
> > 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > Received: by 10.52.72.197 with SMTP id f5mr6251vdv.17.1349943224082;
> >         Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:13:43 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: hamdy ahmed <uhrda1000@gmail.com>
> > To: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com
> > Message-Id: <29039954-caad-40fe-a3be-d06d79027b2c@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: =?UTF-8?B?2YjYsdi02Kkg2LnZhdmEIDogKNiq2YbZhdmK2Kkg2Ygg?=
> >  =?UTF-8?B?2KrYt9mI2YrYsSDYp9mE2YXZh9in2LHYp9iqINin2YTYpdiv2Kc=?=
> >  =?UTF-8?B?2LHZitipKdin2LPYt9mG2KjZiNmEIOKAkyDYqtix2YPZitinIA==?=
> >  =?UTF-8?B?IDIyIOKAkyAzMSDYr9mK2LPZhdio2LEyMDEy2YU=?=
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > X-Original-Sender: uhrda1000@gmail.com
> > Reply-To: uhrda-15@googlegroups.com
> > Precedence: list
> > Mailing-list: list uhrda-15@googlegroups.com; contact
> > uhrda-15+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: <uhrda-15.googlegroups.com>
> > X-Google-Group-Id: 474025889798
> > List-Post: <http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15/post?hl=ar_US>,
> > <mailto:uhrda-15@googlegroups.com> List-Help:
> > <http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=ar_US>,
> > <mailto:uhrda-15+help@googlegroups.com> List-Archive:
> > <http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15?hl=ar_US>; Sender:
> > uhrda-15@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe:
> > <http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15/subscribe?hl=ar_US>,
> > <mailto:uhrda-15+subscribe@googlegroups.com> List-Unsubscribe:
> > <http://groups.google.com/group/uhrda-15/subscribe?hl=ar_US>,
> > <mailto:googlegroups-manage+474025889798+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > boundary="----=_Part_304_10870051.1349943223713" X-Nonspam: None
> > Status: RO Content-Length: 22859 Lines: 387
> > 
> 
> I get hundreds of them. All get handled properly on my system except
> the one coming via FreeBSd.org as my system sees FreeBSD.org as a
> serious sender. This might be the reason those people try it now that
> way.


	yup, exactly.  these sorry, pathetic guys see an easy way to
	spam and do it.  ... .

	gary

> 
> Erich

-- 
 Gary Kline  kline@thought.org  http://www.thought.org  Public Service Unix
              Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community.




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