From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 10 02:30:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C19E3451DB for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49hWDC208Sz4NpM for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.113] (unknown [172.58.143.87]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 191254E656; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 21:20:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd To: Anatoli , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jerry References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <62d10000-e068-922e-23bd-f7a61e7a4e89@anatoli.ws> <6a4f6a15-ec43-03f6-1a41-a109e445f026@anatoli.ws> <00225a04-237d-9051-9aea-12c192106a20@anatoli.ws> <373EDB20-C750-42E2-A41B-EA61F6E49807@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> <2393a1e0-b073-950a-78be-9f57d8e9934b@anatoli.ws> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 21:19:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2393a1e0-b073-950a-78be-9f57d8e9934b@anatoli.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49hWDC208Sz4NpM X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.89 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[172.58.143.87:received]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.143.87:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.67)[0.674]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.62)[0.615]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.50)[0.502]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 02:30:04 -0000 On 6/9/20 9:09 PM, Anatoli wrote: >> Most of those URLs are +/- 10 years old. That is roughly equivalent to >> the MESOZOIC period in computer years. > > That’s when the allegations were made and released publicly, over events > that supposedly occurred 20 years ago. > > An interesting development happened 10 *months* ago, when the FBI was > requested to release all the information (via a FOIA request) about its > involvement with OpenBSD (spoiler: no backdoors, but other entertaining > details). The [7] link provides the details. > Thanks, Anatoli, again for details. And again, it was Anatoli who gave full story, see his original enlightening post earlier in this thread. Something got screwed up on Jerry's side when he was replying Anatoli's message so it started looking as if it was I who provided references, which I can not take credit for. Valeri > > On 9/6/20 13:01, Jerry wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:04:50 -0500, Valeri Galtsev commented: >> >>> [1]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/12/openbsd-code-audit-uncovers-bugs-but-no-evidence-of-backdoor/ >>> [2]: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2 >>> [3]: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129296046123471 >>> [4]: https://www.csoonline.com/article/2136901/an-fbi-backdoor-in-openbsd-.html >>> [5]: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129237675106730&w=2 >>> [6]: https://www.itworld.com/article/2744922/openbsd-fbi-allegations-denied-by-named-participants.html >>> [7]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20489904 >>> [8]: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/12/did_the_fbi_pla.html >> >> Most of those URLs are +/- 10 years old. That is roughly equivalent to >> the MESOZOIC period in computer years. >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++