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Date:      Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:09:00 +0200
From:      Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.org, Baptiste, current@FreeBSD.org, Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, Julien Laffaye <jlaffaye@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: [CFT] pkgng alpha2
Message-ID:  <20111215020900.5a4f6dd1@it.buh.tecnik93.com>
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:56:05 +0200
Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> on 13/12/2011 19:22 Julien Laffaye said the following:
> > On 12/13/2011 06:16 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> >> on 30/11/2011 22:32 Julien Laffaye said the following:
> >>> [1] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues
> >>> [2] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng
> >>> [3] : http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
> >>> [4] : http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/pkgng-bsdcan2011.pdf
> >>> [5] :
> >>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit/Ports?action=3DAttachFile&do=
=3Dget&target=3Dpkgng-devsummit.pdf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [6] :
> >>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/201110DevSummit?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dget&=
target=3Dpkgng-devsummit-track.pdf
> >>>
> >> Couple of questions/suggestions:
> >>
> >> 1. Do you plan to have a pkgng port to issue the preview releases
> >> pkgng? Current pkgng installation/bootstrap procedure is really
> >> easy, but the port would be even more convenient for prospective
> >> testers.
> > Yes, this is planned. The ports will bootstrap pkgng.
>=20
> Great!

The current idea is to have everything in ports so that we don't depend
on the base OS for any kind of changes; we'll only have a bootstrap in
base. One more step forward to decoupling ports from src releases.

> >> 2. Is there a public pre-built package repository with
> >> pkgng-format packages that could be used for testing and getting a
> >> taste of a packages-only pkgng-managed system?
> > Unfortunately, no.
> > I think I now have the resources to do that  for the next CFT. But
> > it will only be 9.0 amd64 I am afraid.
> > We cant build packages for the entire matrix.
>=20
> I understand.  Those would take an immense amount of compilation time
> and storage space.

Storage and especially storage / propagation to mirrors are the biggest
problems.
After pkgNG goes in, we plan to switch HEAD to it and provide only
pkgNG packages for it; then probably the same for 9-STABLE and further
9 releases, but we'll probably need to provide current style of
pacakges during 9.x life time :(

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