From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 01:27:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535B3624 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com (mail-pa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30A552BB5 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id fb10so4089345pad.9 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jtLzGs4mMjH7dyhq75DeUP18k2z5RS99fD4gL3Iv5Qo=; b=lEQq9i3koE9Di5cROM5LG5LVOZBABoBaT0/vf6ZLKco9wATqtyl9vEH+QlJJN4gN/L WvUvFwvHcx7ekbVmQbppiYg6upUMFyO1h4YiVNFKPBdoJ1+AhVjV0MQ7Nxz0P/py5hBh ddN6IeSKutXlnKczrCpWEc5ff6yKZlszeMEcBpAeW/9vRSfvEmi4T2Z/XvyDRcskxydQ NepA+Vc6T6XYkdhCy/GgQa1MAo8JWH/qo8SjP/QoUcUGTV4NOAkdNxsFQLi+97mRQPTB JKPm//BmXzDlCq5OoAMh7LWUyYq0v/WBsmXLpRb9egs7ppBIQHEXtbm+cIX9ob9HnVbD eRUg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.136.131 with SMTP id qa3mr3778093pab.77.1374974861827; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.51.166 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:27:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: where to get the release notes for 9.2 From: Aryeh Friedman To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:27:42 -0000 There is a specific feature I need to see if it is in 9.2 or just 10 where can I find the draft release notes for 9.2? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 05:46:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF598A3 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D0921A4 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB5024D3D; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:46:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6S5k6ns001975; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:46:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:46:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com Subject: Re: Delete a directory, crash the system Message-Id: <20130728074605.6cc425b3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <51F3F290.9020004@cordula.ws> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:46:12 -0000 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:57:31 -0500, David Noel wrote: > > So the system panics in ufs_rmdir(). Maybe the filesystem is > > corrupt? Have you tried to fsck(8) it manually? > > fsck worked, though I had to boot from a USB image because I couldn't > get into single user.. for some odd reason. >From your initial description, a _severe_ file system defect seems to be a reasonable assumption. Make sure fsck is run in foreground prior to bringing up the system. The option background_fsck="NO" in /etc/rc.conf will make sure you won't encounter this problem again (_if_ it was related to the file system). Always make sure you're booting into a fsck'ed environment. You could also use a S.M.A.R.T. analysis tool such as smartmon (from ports) to make sure the OS didn't panic because of a hard disk defect. I'm just mentioning this because I have sufficient exoerience in this field. :-) > > Even if the filesystem is corrupt, ufs_rmdir() shouldn't > > panic(), IMHO, but fail gracefully. Hmmm... > > Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I think I tried it like 3 times to be > sure... and yeah, each time... kaboom! It's really surprising that a (comparable) high-level function could fail in that drastic way, but on the other hand, one would assume that there is a _reason_ for this behaviour. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 05:54:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C109C9 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5307221C9 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D9824B54; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:54:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6S5sl8a001981; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:54:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:54:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: Delete a directory, crash the system Message-Id: <20130728075447.4d6e0468.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <51F420ED.1050402@fjl.co.uk> References: <51F3F290.9020004@cordula.ws> <51F420ED.1050402@fjl.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:54:47 -0000 And here, kids, you can see the strength of open source operating system: You can see _why_ something happens. :-) On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:35:09 +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 27/07/2013 19:57, David Noel wrote: > >> So the system panics in ufs_rmdir(). Maybe the filesystem is > >> corrupt? Have you tried to fsck(8) it manually? > > fsck worked, though I had to boot from a USB image because I couldn't > > get into single user.. for some odd reason. > > > >> Even if the filesystem is corrupt, ufs_rmdir() shouldn't > >> panic(), IMHO, but fail gracefully. Hmmm... > > Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I think I tried it like 3 times to be > > sure... and yeah, each time... kaboom! Who'd have thought. Do I just > > post this to the mailing list and hope some benevolent developer > > stumbles upon it and takes it upon him/herself to "fix" this, or where > > do I find the FreeBSD Suggestion Box? I guess I should file a Problem > > Report and see what happens from there. > > > > I was going to raise an issue when the discussion had died down to a > concensus. I also don't think it's reasonable for the kernel to bomb > when it encounters corruption on a disk. > > If you want to patch it yourself, edit sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c at around > line 2791 change: > > if (dp->i_effnlink < 3) > panic("ufs_dirrem: Bad link count %d on parent", > dp->i_effnlink); > > To > > if (dp->i_effnlink < 3) { > error = EINVAL; > goto out; > } > > The ufs_link() call has a similar issue. > > I can't see why my mod will break anything, but there's always > unintended consequences. One of the core policies usually is to stop _any_ action that had failed due to a "reason that cannot be" and make sure it won't get worse. This can be seen for example in fsck's behaviour: If there is a massive file system error that cannot be repaired without further intervention that _could_ destroy data or make its retrieval harder or impossible, the operator will be requested to make the decision. There are options to automate this process, but on the other hand, "always assume 'yes'" can then be a risk, as it could prevent recovery. My assumtion is that the developers chose a similar approach here: "We found a situation that should not be possible, so we stop the system for messing up the file system even more." This carries the attitude of not "hiding a problem for the sake of convenience" by "being silent and going back to the usual work". Of course it is debatable if this is the right decision in _this_ particular case. > By returning invalid argument, any code above > it should already be handling that condition although the user will be > scratching their head wondering what's wrong with it. By determining the inode number and using the fsdb tool "internal data" about inodes can be examined. Will it also show something that's basically impossible? :-) > Returning ENOENT > or EACCES or ENOTDIR may be better ("No such directory", "Access denied" > or "Not a valid directory"). Depends on the applying definition of those errors. > The trouble is that it's tricky to test properly without finding a good > way to corrupt the link count :-) There is a _simple_ way to do this, and I have even mentioned it. Use the fsdb program and manipulate the inode "manually". Make sure that you actually understand that _what_ you are doing there is creating severe file system inconsistency errors. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 05:57:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B01A85; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4570021E4; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AC024D3D; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:57:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6S5vE6i002005; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:57:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:57:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: Delete a directory, crash the system Message-Id: <20130728075714.734153a2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <51F3F290.9020004@cordula.ws> <51F41BAF.8070506@cordula.ws> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:57:14 -0000 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:57:07 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Yes. It'd be nice if UFS/FFS would just downgrade things to read-only > and not panic. That would be possible, but it would confuse programs and users. It's not that you could walk up to the disk drive and flip the "write protect" switch back... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 05:59:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9EDB2B for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreev.peter@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-x230.google.com (mail-pb0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB1A121F5 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id md4so3470770pbc.21 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:59:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vSAoRCPHnIo2Xs4dZO+vV672G476vYzA4+NyNOtuRVQ=; b=PEzxaRx853RKe52lWRLgqnUJPH1C+tUGDWZ9JKAqOhIN2s7XA4kUBLT2dJuBQiYw9B 9hiQbVfr1bRPl47Fy9cTObm3ttIYoNIJouuFgQo34TeiJV+W3hk4wsKysot7pTMCrp16 R3s2GNfSdbqjRfY9jqGv9L6ZExe1ruOwrgMh+zK8sXrf3lhjespMtkOCepvMlbHOIAb4 ITi5qT/VZmPPs0P4OFvTkf0Ytz/A/kxB8OFxw+xXu5ysCJ03wEFwhx94u0JR9/I/oX9X ripCYAR4I09/INtybquP0nqoR5MQsDnsygHB3XlY8zA3WnovQCtpq7LpzmtUfwhf0Y61 ZJMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.253.138 with SMTP id aa10mr61258767pbd.24.1374991148440; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.52.167 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:59:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 09:59:08 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager From: Peter Andreev To: Conny Andersson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:59:09 -0000 Why wouldn't you simply update your 8.1 to 8.4? 2013/7/27 Conny Andersson > Hi, > > I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first > disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three > year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft > language). > > Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk > as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with > sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager", when I installed > the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. > > (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support > UEFI/GPT/GUID.) > > The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: > > 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > > 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE > > 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE > > I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the > now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 > instead. Is this possible to do? > > A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD > Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on > disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice > may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time > of the install.) > > If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions arise. > > Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and > edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and > occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to > get it to work? > > The idea behind this kind of 'reverse' disk layout of mine is to have > FreeBSD 8.4 as my new default OS. And have FreeBSD 8.3 untouched for > configuring FreeBSD 8.4 and booting into it when ever needed. If I can do > this as described above, I will have plenty of space on the disk for the > future and a new FreeBSD release. > > > Thanks for your interest in my questions, > > Conny Andersson > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Conny Andersson > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > -- Is there any problem Exterminatus cannot solve? I have not found one yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 06:09:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625D8D6B for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFC72224 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BF924D75; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:09:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6S69CDG002044; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:09:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:09:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Conny Andersson Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager Message-Id: <20130728080912.c6ce592a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:09:12 -0000 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: > Hi, > > I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, > ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year > warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft > language). It's just a series of pictures, not a language. ;-) > Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk > as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with > sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager", when I installed > the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. > > (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support > UEFI/GPT/GUID.) > > The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: > > 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > > 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE > > 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE > > I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the > now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 > instead. Is this possible to do? Why do you want to do this? If you keep the s1 slice, you can easily install FreeBSD 8.4 into that slice, leading to this result: 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE Or is the numbering order important to you? You could even keep the partitioning inside s1, but there is no problem re-partitioning inside s1. > A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD > Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on > disk 1? I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. > So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice > may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time > of the install.) That is a _good_ consideration! To make sure things work independently from "boot-time recognition", use labels for the file system and then mount them by using the labels. Encode the OS version number in the labels, so it's even easier to deal with them. Use "newfs -L" on un-mounted partitions (you can do that from the install media). >From the install media, you can easily go to the CLI and use the bsdlabel program to re-write the boot blocks and boot manager if needed. > Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and > edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and > occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to > get it to work? Yes, that should be possible. I don't see any problem because this is a UFS partition. As I mentioned earlier, if you apply labels to the partitions on the slices, it's even easier to determine _which_ 'a' partition (root partition) you are currently dealing with. And if you continue your installation scheme in further versions, you will be freed from remembering what OS version resides on what slice. You then simply do "mount /dev/ufs/root83 /mnt; vi /mnt/etc/fstab" and you _immediately_ know which installation you're currently dealing with. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 10:05:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22075A1 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10A1E2783 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6SA5nqH041242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:05:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51F4ECFD.5090502@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:05:49 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Delete a directory, crash the system References: <51F3F290.9020004@cordula.ws> <51F420ED.1050402@fjl.co.uk> <20130728075447.4d6e0468.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130728075447.4d6e0468.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:05:56 -0000 On 28/07/2013 06:54, Polytropon wrote: > And here, kids, you can see the strength of open source > operating system: You can see _why_ something happens. :-) Too true! > On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:35:09 +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> On 27/07/2013 19:57, David Noel wrote: >>>> So the system panics in ufs_rmdir(). Maybe the filesystem is >>>> corrupt? Have you tried to fsck(8) it manually? >>> fsck worked, though I had to boot from a USB image because I couldn't >>> get into single user.. for some odd reason. >>> >>>> Even if the filesystem is corrupt, ufs_rmdir() shouldn't >>>> panic(), IMHO, but fail gracefully. Hmmm... >>> Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I think I tried it like 3 times to be >>> sure... and yeah, each time... kaboom! Who'd have thought. Do I just >>> post this to the mailing list and hope some benevolent developer >>> stumbles upon it and takes it upon him/herself to "fix" this, or where >>> do I find the FreeBSD Suggestion Box? I guess I should file a Problem >>> Report and see what happens from there. >>> >> I was going to raise an issue when the discussion had died down to a >> concensus. I also don't think it's reasonable for the kernel to bomb >> when it encounters corruption on a disk. >> >> If you want to patch it yourself, edit sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c at around >> line 2791 change: >> >> if (dp->i_effnlink < 3) >> panic("ufs_dirrem: Bad link count %d on parent", >> dp->i_effnlink); >> >> To >> >> if (dp->i_effnlink < 3) { >> error = EINVAL; >> goto out; >> } >> >> The ufs_link() call has a similar issue. >> >> I can't see why my mod will break anything, but there's always >> unintended consequences. > One of the core policies usually is to stop _any_ action that > had failed due to a "reason that cannot be" and make sure it > won't get worse. This can be seen for example in fsck's behaviour: > If there is a massive file system error that cannot be repaired > without further intervention that _could_ destroy data or make > its retrieval harder or impossible, the operator will be requested > to make the decision. There are options to automate this process, > but on the other hand, "always assume 'yes'" can then be a risk, > as it could prevent recovery. My assumtion is that the developers > chose a similar approach here: "We found a situation that should > not be possible, so we stop the system for messing up the file > system even more." This carries the attitude of not "hiding a > problem for the sake of convenience" by "being silent and going > back to the usual work". Of course it is debatable if this is the > right decision in _this_ particular case. > > > The problem I have with this is the assumption that the inode was at fault. I said this was the most likely, but it's not the absolute reason. At the risk of repeating, it's the /effective/ link count (in the vnode) that's out of line here, not the inode count. If the inode was wrong it could be down to minor FS corruption; an interrupted directory creation or deletion would do the trick. The vnode could go wrong for all sorts of reasons, probably associated with a race during the directory removal, which is not an atomic operation by any means. See "The Design of the UNIX operating system" p 5.16.1, Bach, Prentice-Hall, 1986. My guess is that we're looking at an old debugging pragma here, put in to cope with a race going wrong if the code wasn't quite right (note that the function has since been renamed but the message not updated). You're right about stopping on internal errors (corruption to the kernel data structures in this case) but this case is indeed debatable. On the one hand, now the system is stable (i.e. we can probably trust rmdir code after all this time), the most likely cause is inode corruption polluting the vnode. On the other hand the pragma may be useful if people are tinkering with the kernel and you get even more opportunities for a race with (say) SMP. I don't expect the kernel to panic on a user-land I/O error, or anything else that's expected or recoverable - and a wonky FS meets these criteria in my book. David was lucky to find this - I tend to run FreeBSD on servers, not laptops, and I'd never have seen this server panic "live" and therefore not been able to discover the cause very easily. That's worrying. So it boils down to: a) Leave is is, as it can detect when the kernel has trashed its vnode table; or b) It's probably caused by "expected" FS corruption, so handle it gracefully. Incidentally, if you look at the code you'll see this is only heuristic check, and a weak one at that. Most of the time it WILL NOT pick up the case where the parent directory's link is missing. As far as I can tell it will go on to unlink the target successfully, with no ill effects. If this situation really did lead to catastrophe (as suggested by the use of a panic) then the check used ought to be a lot more reliable! As it is, removing it entirely except for debug kernels, is a third option. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 05:38:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780BD85D; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6C362193; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id q54so2968359wes.5 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:38:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ggw5JivjCK6IFnXjoj7GulUMXsL2mDnAybaqDmoqhZo=; b=IGyEBCj1rqMuqjF0fuhEDsoRqVi24nFTl5WBy9fnNkOc2fP/w8jkIu83jvLax6hbJo D2QmmSxP7WcfUTjx69aniMB/5/34bfLGkBuNXPPMRGfV+97WolzN/k3dngQwVqlvRnBP BLg3TCIUHQwDWUqlnmjc0ZPgNKwqQGwEqDiWJL2V4zfc44bDj12yo8WY4hq4hUxt+LQ6 4k31qteUNpCkKF7OY1cVP2Vmofp//kT5kyIzRxdTiSi44a9svnMVlE9BYNARV+FS6gfL lEISOyKAu1qlYBzlJKyZ4T+otNLslUGZ3YvTaXTXwP1a6dIisy60QGwAGaFOjDPGThW1 dgvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.160.203 with SMTP id xm11mr3385678wib.58.1374989935093; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.180.138 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:38:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51F3F290.9020004@cordula.ws> <51F41BAF.8070506@cordula.ws> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 00:38:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Delete a directory, crash the system From: David Noel To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= , Frank Leonhardt , Jason Lenthe , cpghost , adrian@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:03:20 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:38:57 -0000 Ok folks, thanks again for all the help. Using the feedback I submitted a PR (#180894) -- http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=180894. I also submitted a follow-up to it with Frank's code and notes. What next? I don't really know what happens from here, but I'm guessing/hoping that someone's monitoring the PR system and will move this forward. Crossing my fingers, though if anyone knows any better methods of getting PR's addressed I'm all ears. -David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 13:25:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA12BA1 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ACD82C9A for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6SDPiep013929 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:25:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r6SDPiep013929 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1375017945; bh=WCLFfa4jsEKrNkyeh31+Tc+hZdwrRXt7wimSgr+BxO4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2028=20Jul=202013=2014:25:36=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Delete=20a=20directory,=20crash=2 0the=20system|References:=20=20=20=20=20=20<51F3F290 .9020004@cordula.ws>=20=20<51F41BAF.8070506@cordula.ws>=20 =20|In-Reply-To:=20; b=TJAKe9p+417zrf+j1T2mhOYGEdCQHEGGgV5NCkplpezCKyBUNzk0LVPprNBZRj3hB YWfe7Tr6XtqU/P2A1J1VX5SFtPAQ0m5EJXwEYEm1mj0Hpd1cQt4JqV/YAih6FFijKY NgHFJ415OR9FK52yc1xp4tl6kOtMEdj7hl3ULV/w= Message-ID: <51F51BD0.4060003@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:25:36 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delete a directory, crash the system References: <51F3F290.9020004@cordula.ws> <51F41BAF.8070506@cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NULoqvf3bLwgiF5iMEQwmJkikapciHo7s" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:25:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --NULoqvf3bLwgiF5iMEQwmJkikapciHo7s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28/07/2013 06:38, David Noel wrote: > Ok folks, thanks again for all the help. Using the feedback I > submitted a PR (#180894) -- > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D180894. I also submitted a= > follow-up to it with Frank's code and notes. What next? I don't really > know what happens from here, but I'm guessing/hoping that someone's > monitoring the PR system and will move this forward. >=20 > Crossing my fingers, though if anyone knows any better methods of > getting PR's addressed I'm all ears. You've already done the right things: raising a PR and posing about your problem on freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, where it is going to come to the attention of developers working on that area of the system. You're next move should be to provide whatever additional information the developers might need to diagnose or reproduce the problem. This is really the crucial bit: unless a dev can understand what happened and how your system came to break in that particular way, it's unlikely they'll be able to fix it. If you don't understand what's being asked for, or how to roduce any required information, don't be shy about asking -- either here, or over on freebsd-fs@... It's sometimes hard to remember that the sort of debugging things you'ld do routinely and without a second thought as a developer can appear as pretty arcane mysteries to the uninitiated. You may find these bits of documentation useful: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/debu= gging.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kern= eldebug.html (especially section 10.1 about obtaining a kernel core dump, and 10.2 about using kgdb.) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk --NULoqvf3bLwgiF5iMEQwmJkikapciHo7s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH1G9gACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxonQCfXvaae0yKS19HUAsMNvxA8Qrx d9QAnj8SCjhkuS0Z7cN4ZUyin1DOX/65 =pc67 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NULoqvf3bLwgiF5iMEQwmJkikapciHo7s-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 14:12:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579FFBF1 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0604B2E02 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6SECdDC008875; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:12:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6SECd0a008872; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:12:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:12:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: Delete a directory, crash the system In-Reply-To: <51F4ECFD.5090502@fjl.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <51F3F290.9020004@cordula.ws> <51F420ED.1050402@fjl.co.uk> <20130728075447.4d6e0468.freebsd@edvax.de> <51F4ECFD.5090502@fjl.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:12:39 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:12:48 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > So it boils down to: > > a) Leave is is, as it can detect when the kernel has trashed its vnode table; > or > > b) It's probably caused by "expected" FS corruption, so handle it gracefully. It would be good to log a system error message like "filesystem may be corrupt" to give the user some clue other than a seemingly impossible error with no explanation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 14:18:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A24DA5 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E71E2E2E for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6SEIdmC008900; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6SEIdlR008897; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: <20130728080912.c6ce592a.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20130728080912.c6ce592a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Conny Andersson X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:18:47 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: >> A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD >> Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on >> disk 1? > > I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program > is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. AFAIK, sysinstall is still used in FreeBSD 8.X, and bsdinstall does not have a boot manager option anyway. >> So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice >> may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time >> of the install.) Sorry, I don't understand this at all. AHCI should not be involved with identifying slices. > That is a _good_ consideration! To make sure things work independently > from "boot-time recognition", use labels for the file system and then > mount them by using the labels. Encode the OS version number in the > labels, so it's even easier to deal with them. Use "newfs -L" on > un-mounted partitions (you can do that from the install media). For existing filesystems, that would be tunefs -L. And agreed, filesystem labels make relocation much easier. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 14:37:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47B64EE for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792292EB0 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C67D3C474; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:37:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6SEbap9004837; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:37:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:37:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager Message-Id: <20130728163736.cc3f1720.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130728080912.c6ce592a.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Conny Andersson X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:37:42 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: > > >> A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD > >> Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on > >> disk 1? > > > > I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program > > is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. > > AFAIK, sysinstall is still used in FreeBSD 8.X, and bsdinstall does not > have a boot manager option anyway. Sometimes I'm confusing them, because I usually don't use the installer and usually use fdisk (if needed), bsdlabel and newfs. :-) > >> So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice > >> may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time > >> of the install.) > > Sorry, I don't understand this at all. AHCI should not be involved with > identifying slices. Maybe the required device driver is not part of the 8.x GENERIC kernel? So for example a drive could come up either as /dev/ada0 or as /dev/ad6, depending on how the recognition order and PATA / SATA thing is handled by the system and its BIOS. Labels will work independently from wheather the device will be recognized as ATA disk (for example /dev/ad6s1a being the root disk) or SATA disk (where /dev/ada6s1 would be the root disk). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 14:47:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3B86ED for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ea0-f178.google.com (mail-ea0-f178.google.com [209.85.215.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF0EC2EF6 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f178.google.com with SMTP id a11so1092211eae.23 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:47:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=r/8QxeRpRT7cxrTpNYzw772+OrCSmSszdJx/uTmu1Iw=; b=ka9ZmFHPIVngp4u6+BEmOVYgzJ7xv8tzpC9AB0vtnk0azoB9P743xGKrGLCzgk8zZt rixEeAjfL5URVEv+pZYmOzX3KcAL8SYJ3BR3911XWEgcDoIgdnJv/ePgimeHHsJJ+zrh 3mLhQ2Ua57DUpsI+ZSfAN9oExKTDMw+kHHTQ35CH2uDq65Y1904kg5+LkcUjGh5oBg/j BInZsjZ63/8z6FiGLejR0ioAVk0h0QlmFAkOVB/4TVl3bGvhK76d4Mk7nsfQOdalHxH2 Nyj4BvWzgGHM3++OguoFYu+L5UT9c1f5fWiqI1EhSD+Ypofkq/zwWxcDzRDqYhqjCddl r4+w== X-Received: by 10.14.198.73 with SMTP id u49mr55827544een.19.1375022824164; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (p5DDDB75D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [93.221.183.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r54sm95438641eev.8.2013.07.28.07.47.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F52EE5.2020604@cordula.ws> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:47:01 +0200 From: cpghost User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130711 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com Subject: Re: Delete a directory, crash the system References: <51F3F290.9020004@cordula.ws> <51F41BAF.8070506@cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: <51F41BAF.8070506@cordula.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn8Nvcg2SBB2WeNpc3HVsecXvIfM+4Y9cRT4S+Ho3xKVeWPpKNZGanUGjURwmbd4HeN/nlg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:47:12 -0000 On 07/27/13 21:12, cpghost wrote: > A more robust file system would halt all processes, and perform > an in-kernel fsck on the filesystem and its internal (in-memory) > structures to repair the damage... and THEN resume the processes. > > However, this is a major project, and we don't have a self-healing > filesystem / kernel (... yet). ;-) > > -cpghost. If we think this further, we may as well start introducing some elements of self-healing or at least self-inspecting in the kernel. How about, for example, a kernel thread that wakes up periodically, walks through VFS structures, and checks their integrity? Perhaps also verifying the underlying inodes as well? Think background fsck, but within the kernel and for kernel structures themselves. Others parts of the kernel could as well self-inspect for consistency with a periodic kernel thread. Some parts are easier than others, so I don't think we could also walk the VM structures (if those are corrupt, even the repair-thread will be running amok). But save for that, most parts of the kernel could use some periodic consistency checking. Make that checking optional via a sysctl(8), and it won't even cost performance. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 16:50:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EE55B0 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9058221C1 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6SGoOKJ009770; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:50:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6SGoNPK009767; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:50:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:50:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: <20130728163736.cc3f1720.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20130728080912.c6ce592a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130728163736.cc3f1720.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:50:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Conny Andersson X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:50:29 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: >> >>>> A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD >>>> Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on >>>> disk 1? >>> >>> I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program >>> is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. >> >> AFAIK, sysinstall is still used in FreeBSD 8.X, and bsdinstall does not >> have a boot manager option anyway. > > Sometimes I'm confusing them, because I usually don't use the > installer and usually use fdisk (if needed), bsdlabel and > newfs. :-) gpart does a lot more than both fdisk and bsdlabel, and is easier to use. :) >>>> So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice >>>> may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time >>>> of the install.) >> >> Sorry, I don't understand this at all. AHCI should not be involved with >> identifying slices. > > Maybe the required device driver is not part of the 8.x > GENERIC kernel? So for example a drive could come up either > as /dev/ada0 or as /dev/ad6, depending on how the recognition > order and PATA / SATA thing is handled by the system and > its BIOS. Really, it should always be ada, unless someone has built a custom kernel that intentionally uses the old form. That's usually a mistake. (AHCI is a separate, unrelated thing.) > Labels will work independently from wheather the device will be > recognized as ATA disk (for example /dev/ad6s1a being the root disk) > or SATA disk (where /dev/ada6s1 would be the root disk). Yes. Labels don't care about the hardware connection. So they'll continue to work when you take a drive out of a machine and put it in a USB enclosure, for example. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 17:54:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0A39D3 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8B5123AC for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r6SHmCed044229; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 03:48:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 03:48:11 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Conny Andersson Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:54:47 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 477, Issue 8, Message: 10 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Conny Andersson wrote: > Hi, > > I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, > ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year > warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft > language). Yes, best humour adherents of the Almighty Bill - keeps them sweet. > Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk > as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with > sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager", when I installed > the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. Right. sysinstall(8) - or at least the fdisk and bsdlabel modules that constitute sade(8) - remains the only safe and sane way to handle MBR disks. bsdinstall seems fine for GPT, but its paradigm doesn't play so well with trying to do the sorts of manipulations you're talking about here. Why noone's tried to update sade(8) for GPT I don't understand; it's a far better, more forgiving interface, in my old-fashioned? view. > (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support > UEFI/GPT/GUID.) > > The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: > > 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > > 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE > > 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE > > I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the > now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 > instead. Is this possible to do? Yes and no. Using sysinstall|sade on my 9.1 laptop -- without setting sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 so it can't write any inadvertent changes to my disk :) -- in the fdisk screen you can delete the first two slices freeing their space for a new slice (or two) and you can then allocate s1 ok, but the existing s3 is still called s3. Would that be a problem? If you only created one slice there you'd have s1 and s3, with s2 and s4 marked as empty in the MBR shown by fdisk(8). MBR slice order need not follow disk allocations, eg s4 might point to an earlier disk region. sysinstall|sade has undo options for both fdisk and bsdlabel modules; it's easy to play with, no chance of damage - even with foot-shooting flag set, unless/until you commit to changes. If in doubt hit escape until it backs right out, nothing will be written. > A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD > Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on > disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice > may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time > of the install.) If you're running 8.4 sysinstall as init, ie booted into the installer, and you've told it to install to s1, then it should set s1 as the active partition in the disk table and in boot0cfg's active slice table. I've never tried it with a second disk so I can't confirm that will all play nice, but you seem to have installed 3 versions ok before :) If not, you can run boot0cfg(8) anytime to set the active slice etc, so that shouldn't be a worry. Likely need to set debugflags=16 to do that on a running system also .. don't forget to set them back to 0 later! (For anyone) still nervous about sade for setting up MBR disks, play with a spare memstick, setup a couple of slices, boot0cfg etc, allocate and delete slices and partitions. Jordan got that together >15years ago so noone would ever need to do those icky slice/partition maths again. My theory: few have been brave enough to dare mess with $deity's work, though it just needs some updates for modern realities, not abandonment. [ Polytropon, it's not 'obsolete' at all; still in 9 anyway. It'll be obsolete when there are no more MBR-only systems in use - say 7 years - OR when bsdinstall incorporates all the missing good sade(8) features, which requires it making a clear distinction between GPT and MBR and working accordingly, including cleaning up GPT stuff if MBR chosen. At 9.1-R anyway, it doesn't do it so well for MBR. Try installing over an existing desired slice partitioning, newfs'ing everything EXCEPT your valuable /home partition. Not for beginners, yet simple in sade(8) ] > If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions arise. > > Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and > edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and > occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to > get it to work? Except it likely will still be called ada1s3a, it should be no problem. Once boot0cfg(8) is working right, you can boot from any bootable slice; it 'knows' but doesn't care what (if any) OS is on any other slices. > The idea behind this kind of 'reverse' disk layout of mine is to have > FreeBSD 8.4 as my new default OS. And have FreeBSD 8.3 untouched for > configuring FreeBSD 8.4 and booting into it when ever needed. If I can do > this as described above, I will have plenty of space on the disk for the > future and a new FreeBSD release. Sure. Another option would be a much smaller new s2 after the bigger s1 as a 'transit lounge' between slices, I use such for config backups etc. Speaking of which, given that you're all safely backed up, nothing can go wrong, right? :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 20:04:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3140EACB for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ataraxi@telia.com) Received: from smtp-out11.han.skanova.net (smtp-out11.han.skanova.net [195.67.226.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6092840 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alice.nodomain.nowhere (95.199.151.241) by smtp-out11.han.skanova.net (8.5.133) (authenticated as u51204108) id 51B4CBC400F3E3AE; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:04:25 +0200 Received: by alice.nodomain.nowhere (Postfix, from userid 1002) id CF8271F4D85; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:55:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alice.nodomain.nowhere (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE45E1F4858; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:55:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:55:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Conny Andersson To: Ian Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: References: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:04:33 -0000 Hi Ian, Thank you for all of your advices regarding my questions. I have been using FreeBSD for more than ten years, but I never heard of sade (sysadmins disk editor). That is one of the joyful things with running FreeBSD/Unix; there is always something earlier unheard of to explore. And, there is always more than one way to approach a problem. Thank you Ian, Conny > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 477, Issue 8, Message: 10 > On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Conny Andersson wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, > > ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year > > warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft > > language). > > Yes, best humour adherents of the Almighty Bill - keeps them sweet. > > > Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk > > as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with > > sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager", when I installed > > the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. > > Right. sysinstall(8) - or at least the fdisk and bsdlabel modules that > constitute sade(8) - remains the only safe and sane way to handle MBR > disks. bsdinstall seems fine for GPT, but its paradigm doesn't play so > well with trying to do the sorts of manipulations you're talking about > here. Why noone's tried to update sade(8) for GPT I don't understand; > it's a far better, more forgiving interface, in my old-fashioned? view. > > > (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support > > UEFI/GPT/GUID.) > > > > The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: > > > > 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > > > > 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE > > > > 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE > > > > I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the > > now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 > > instead. Is this possible to do? > > Yes and no. Using sysinstall|sade on my 9.1 laptop -- without setting > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 so it can't write any inadvertent changes > to my disk :) -- in the fdisk screen you can delete the first two slices > freeing their space for a new slice (or two) and you can then allocate > s1 ok, but the existing s3 is still called s3. Would that be a problem? > > If you only created one slice there you'd have s1 and s3, with s2 and s4 > marked as empty in the MBR shown by fdisk(8). MBR slice order need not > follow disk allocations, eg s4 might point to an earlier disk region. > > sysinstall|sade has undo options for both fdisk and bsdlabel modules; > it's easy to play with, no chance of damage - even with foot-shooting > flag set, unless/until you commit to changes. If in doubt hit escape > until it backs right out, nothing will be written. > > > A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD > > Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on > > disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice > > may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time > > of the install.) > > If you're running 8.4 sysinstall as init, ie booted into the installer, > and you've told it to install to s1, then it should set s1 as the active > partition in the disk table and in boot0cfg's active slice table. I've > never tried it with a second disk so I can't confirm that will all play > nice, but you seem to have installed 3 versions ok before :) > > If not, you can run boot0cfg(8) anytime to set the active slice etc, so > that shouldn't be a worry. Likely need to set debugflags=16 to do that > on a running system also .. don't forget to set them back to 0 later! > > (For anyone) still nervous about sade for setting up MBR disks, play > with a spare memstick, setup a couple of slices, boot0cfg etc, allocate > and delete slices and partitions. Jordan got that together >15years ago > so noone would ever need to do those icky slice/partition maths again. > My theory: few have been brave enough to dare mess with $deity's work, > though it just needs some updates for modern realities, not abandonment. > > [ Polytropon, it's not 'obsolete' at all; still in 9 anyway. It'll be > obsolete when there are no more MBR-only systems in use - say 7 years - > OR when bsdinstall incorporates all the missing good sade(8) features, > which requires it making a clear distinction between GPT and MBR and > working accordingly, including cleaning up GPT stuff if MBR chosen. At > 9.1-R anyway, it doesn't do it so well for MBR. Try installing over an > existing desired slice partitioning, newfs'ing everything EXCEPT your > valuable /home partition. Not for beginners, yet simple in sade(8) ] > > > If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions arise. > > > > Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and > > edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and > > occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to > > get it to work? > > Except it likely will still be called ada1s3a, it should be no problem. > Once boot0cfg(8) is working right, you can boot from any bootable slice; > it 'knows' but doesn't care what (if any) OS is on any other slices. > > > The idea behind this kind of 'reverse' disk layout of mine is to have > > FreeBSD 8.4 as my new default OS. And have FreeBSD 8.3 untouched for > > configuring FreeBSD 8.4 and booting into it when ever needed. If I can do > > this as described above, I will have plenty of space on the disk for the > > future and a new FreeBSD release. > > Sure. Another option would be a much smaller new s2 after the bigger s1 > as a 'transit lounge' between slices, I use such for config backups etc. > > Speaking of which, given that you're all safely backed up, nothing can > go wrong, right? :) > > cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 20:04:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48905ACC for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ataraxi@telia.com) Received: from smtp-out11.han.skanova.net (smtp-out11.han.skanova.net [195.67.226.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10062841 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alice.nodomain.nowhere (95.199.151.241) by smtp-out11.han.skanova.net (8.5.133) (authenticated as u51204108) id 51B4CBC400F3E3AD; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:04:24 +0200 Received: by alice.nodomain.nowhere (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 852261F4BDE; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alice.nodomain.nowhere (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EEE1F4A8D; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:07:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Conny Andersson To: Peter Andreev Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:04:33 -0000 Hi Peter, I need much more disk space for the FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE, so I will need the space of the two 'old' slices. Thanks, Conny > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Peter Andreev wrote: > Why wouldn't you simply update your 8.1 to 8.4? > > > 2013/7/27 Conny Andersson > >> Hi, >> >> I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first >> disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three >> year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft >> language). >> >> Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk >> as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with >> sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager", when I installed >> the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. >> >> (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support >> UEFI/GPT/GUID.) >> >> The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: >> >> 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE >> >> 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE >> >> 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE >> >> I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the >> now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 >> instead. Is this possible to do? >> >> A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD >> Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on >> disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice >> may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time >> of the install.) >> >> If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions arise. >> >> Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and >> edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and >> occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to >> get it to work? >> >> The idea behind this kind of 'reverse' disk layout of mine is to have >> FreeBSD 8.4 as my new default OS. And have FreeBSD 8.3 untouched for >> configuring FreeBSD 8.4 and booting into it when ever needed. If I can do >> this as described above, I will have plenty of space on the disk for the >> future and a new FreeBSD release. >> >> >> Thanks for your interest in my questions, >> >> Conny Andersson >> >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Conny Andersson >> >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 20:06:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBA2C0B for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ataraxi@telia.com) Received: from smtp-out21.han.skanova.net (smtp-out21.han.skanova.net [195.67.226.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6049E2864 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alice.nodomain.nowhere (95.199.151.241) by smtp-out21.han.skanova.net (8.5.133) (authenticated as u51204108) id 51AC78360114834E; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:04:23 +0200 Received: by alice.nodomain.nowhere (Postfix, from userid 1002) id D5EA81F4858; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:02:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alice.nodomain.nowhere (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A1A1F46D4; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:02:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:02:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Conny Andersson To: Warren Block Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20130728080912.c6ce592a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:06:13 -0000 Hi Warren and Polytropon, A few minutes ago I booted up from a FreeBSD-8.4-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to experience that it is sysinstall that is used in that release. Next, I did a 'dummy' custom installation. And, as I supposed sysinstall recognized disk ada0 as ad4 and disk ada1 as ad6. Then I aborted sysinstall and rebooted in to my FreeBSD 8.3-Release. Well, AHCI (Serial ATA Advanced Host Controller Interface driver) seems involved when identifying disks and slices. But, only on newer computers who has this option set to on in the BIOS. Maybe, bsdinstall in FreeBSD 9.0 and onwards can make use of AHCI directly. When I bought this workstation and installed FreeBSD I thought something was very much wrong with the wiring of the hardware/disks and I phoned Dell's support ... without being much wiser. My old Dell workstation on which I have used all the FreeBSD's from release 4.8 up to 8.0 I always got ad0 and ad1 as the disks in use. So, I had to search the Internet for an answer why my new computer numbered disks oddly. And I found your web page Warren (http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ahci.html) and I also read the ahci man page. I also had to edit my /etc/fstab accordingly. My FreeBSD 8.3 /etc/fstab: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ada1s3b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ada1s3a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ada1s3d /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 Apropos labels, I only have two filesystems (+swap) on each slice, as I only run a desktop workstation. I do that following Greg Lehey's advise in his book "The Complete FreeBSD" 4th Edition. More apropos labels: The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID. As far as I know, Dell only have the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface on its PowerEdge servers. (The reason why I want to merge two slices into one big ada1s1 is the need for more disk space for FreeBSD 8.4 and keep 8.3 as it is, but then as slice 2). Thank you, Conny > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: > >>> A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD >>> Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 >>> on >>> disk 1? >> >> I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program >> is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. > > AFAIK, sysinstall is still used in FreeBSD 8.X, and bsdinstall does not have > a boot manager option anyway. > >>> So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice >>> may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the >>> time >>> of the install.) > > Sorry, I don't understand this at all. AHCI should not be involved with > identifying slices. > >> That is a _good_ consideration! To make sure things work independently >> from "boot-time recognition", use labels for the file system and then >> mount them by using the labels. Encode the OS version number in the >> labels, so it's even easier to deal with them. Use "newfs -L" on >> un-mounted partitions (you can do that from the install media). > > For existing filesystems, that would be tunefs -L. And agreed, filesystem > labels make relocation much easier. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 20:57:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6D64DA for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from mail.lariat.net (mail.lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E4B2A6C for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Toshi.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22279 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201307282036.OAA22279@mail.lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:36:18 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: Help! Cannot boot after freebsd-update update to 9.1-p5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:57:47 -0000 Help! I just used freebsd-update to upgrade a system to FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p5 to close the latest security holes. I then rebuilt my custom kernel and tried to reboot. I'm now getting the message Can't work out which disk we are booting from. Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to disk0: at boot time. The strange thing is that when I boot the system from a FreeBSD 9.1 (AMD64) USB key, I can mount and read the file system on the hard drive that will not boot. There doesn't seem to be any problem with it. I've tried copying /boot/loader over from the USB key; still can't boot. Tried moving the GENERIC kernel over from the USB key into /boot/kernel, just in case there was a problem with my custom one; still can't boot. Not sure what to try next. Any ideas would be much appreciated! --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 21:59:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB329E8C for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5173D2CAD for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6SLxRQl011947; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:59:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6SLxQ0N011944; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:59:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:59:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Conny Andersson Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20130728080912.c6ce592a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:59:27 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:59:37 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Conny Andersson wrote: > Hi Warren and Polytropon, > > A few minutes ago I booted up from a FreeBSD-8.4-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img > to experience that it is sysinstall that is used in that release. > > Next, I did a 'dummy' custom installation. And, as I supposed sysinstall > recognized disk ada0 as ad4 and disk ada1 as ad6. Then I aborted sysinstall > and rebooted in to my FreeBSD 8.3-Release. > > Well, AHCI (Serial ATA Advanced Host Controller Interface driver) seems > involved when identifying disks and slices. But, only on newer computers who > has this option set to on in the BIOS. Maybe, bsdinstall in FreeBSD 9.0 and > onwards can make use of AHCI directly. At some point, the old ad(4) driver was replaced with the new ada(4) driver. To provide backwards compatability, the old ad devices names are still available in /dev. I don't know when FreeBSD 8.X switched to the ada(4) driver. Neither ad nor ada devices require AHCI. If it is available, it gives a small but noticeable speed increase. Otherwise, it should make no difference. > More apropos labels: The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not > support UEFI/GPT/GUID. As far as I know, Dell only have the Unified > Extensible Firmware Interface on its PowerEdge servers. There is more than one kind of label. There are filesystem labels like we are talking about, there are GPT labels, there are generic labels. The ones being suggested are filesystem labels: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html FreeBSD supports GPT without UEFI. It doesn't matter in this case, since you already have MBR. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 22:23:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD0C397 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4D972D87 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6SMNeJL005514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:23:40 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT04.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.15]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:23:39 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Conny Andersson Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager Thread-Topic: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager Thread-Index: AQHOi7qgEmNQwUIxNEC3la9Dcct1o5l61T6AgAApVAA= Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FF6013@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-28_08:2013-07-26,2013-07-28,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:43 -0000 On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Conny Andersson wrote: > Hi Ian, >=20 > Thank you for all of your advices regarding my questions. I have been usi= ng FreeBSD for more than ten years, but I never heard of sade (sysadmins di= sk editor). That is one of the joyful things with running FreeBSD/Unix; the= re is always something earlier unheard of to explore. And, there is always = more than one way to approach a problem. >=20 In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinsta= ll(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. In-fact... sade was (up until recently in HEAD) actual code removed from sy= sinstall(8). NOTE: In HEAD, sade(8) is now a direct path to "bsdinstall partedit" I don't know what the long-term goals are for sade, but it's a nice 4-lette= r acronym that's a nice keystroke saver (at the very least). --=20 Devin >> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Ian Smith wrote: >=20 >> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 477, Issue 8, Message: 10 >> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Conny Andersson wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first = disk, >> > ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year >> > warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft >> > language). >>=20 >> Yes, best humour adherents of the Almighty Bill - keeps them sweet. >>=20 >> > Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second = disk >> > as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed= with >> > sysinstall's option "Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager", when I install= ed >> > the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. >>=20 >> Right. sysinstall(8) - or at least the fdisk and bsdlabel modules that >> constitute sade(8) - remains the only safe and sane way to handle MBR >> disks. bsdinstall seems fine for GPT, but its paradigm doesn't play so >> well with trying to do the sorts of manipulations you're talking about >> here. Why noone's tried to update sade(8) for GPT I don't understand; >> it's a far better, more forgiving interface, in my old-fashioned? view. >>=20 >> > (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support >> > UEFI/GPT/GUID.) >> > >> > The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: >> > >> > 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE >> > >> > 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE >> > >> > 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE >> > >> > I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting= the >> > now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada= 1s2 >> > instead. Is this possible to do? >>=20 >> Yes and no. Using sysinstall|sade on my 9.1 laptop -- without setting >> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=3D16 so it can't write any inadvertent chang= es >> to my disk :) -- in the fdisk screen you can delete the first two slices >> freeing their space for a new slice (or two) and you can then allocate >> s1 ok, but the existing s3 is still called s3. Would that be a problem? >>=20 >> If you only created one slice there you'd have s1 and s3, with s2 and s4 >> marked as empty in the MBR shown by fdisk(8). MBR slice order need not >> follow disk allocations, eg s4 might point to an earlier disk region. >>=20 >> sysinstall|sade has undo options for both fdisk and bsdlabel modules; >> it's easy to play with, no chance of damage - even with foot-shooting >> flag set, unless/until you commit to changes. If in doubt hit escape >> until it backs right out, nothing will be written. >>=20 >> > A very important question is if sysinstall's option "Install the FreeB= SD >> > Boot Manager" detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice= 2 on >> > disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the sl= ice >> > may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the= time >> > of the install.) >>=20 >> If you're running 8.4 sysinstall as init, ie booted into the installer, >> and you've told it to install to s1, then it should set s1 as the active >> partition in the disk table and in boot0cfg's active slice table. I've >> never tried it with a second disk so I can't confirm that will all play >> nice, but you seem to have installed 3 versions ok before :) >>=20 >> If not, you can run boot0cfg(8) anytime to set the active slice etc, so >> that shouldn't be a worry. Likely need to set debugflags=3D16 to do that >> on a running system also .. don't forget to set them back to 0 later! >>=20 >> (For anyone) still nervous about sade for setting up MBR disks, play >> with a spare memstick, setup a couple of slices, boot0cfg etc, allocate >> and delete slices and partitions. Jordan got that together >15years ago >> so noone would ever need to do those icky slice/partition maths again. >> My theory: few have been brave enough to dare mess with $deity's work, >> though it just needs some updates for modern realities, not abandonment. >>=20 >> [ Polytropon, it's not 'obsolete' at all; still in 9 anyway. It'll be >> obsolete when there are no more MBR-only systems in use - say 7 years - >> OR when bsdinstall incorporates all the missing good sade(8) features, >> which requires it making a clear distinction between GPT and MBR and >> working accordingly, including cleaning up GPT stuff if MBR chosen. At >> 9.1-R anyway, it doesn't do it so well for MBR. Try installing over an >> existing desired slice partitioning, newfs'ing everything EXCEPT your >> valuable /home partition. Not for beginners, yet simple in sade(8) ] >>=20 >> > If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions a= rise. >> > >> > Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4= and >> > edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, a= nd >> > occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more= to >> > get it to work? >>=20 >> Except it likely will still be called ada1s3a, it should be no problem. >> Once boot0cfg(8) is working right, you can boot from any bootable slice; >> it 'knows' but doesn't care what (if any) OS is on any other slices. >>=20 >> > The idea behind this kind of 'reverse' disk layout of mine is to have >> > FreeBSD 8.4 as my new default OS. And have FreeBSD 8.3 untouched for >> > configuring FreeBSD 8.4 and booting into it when ever needed. If I can= do >> > this as described above, I will have plenty of space on the disk for t= he >> > future and a new FreeBSD release. >>=20 >> Sure. Another option would be a much smaller new s2 after the bigger s1 >> as a 'transit lounge' between slices, I use such for config backups etc. >>=20 >> Speaking of which, given that you're all safely backed up, nothing can >> go wrong, right? :) >>=20 >> cheers, Ian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 22:53:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E9FD57; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8542EB3; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792863C3DE; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:53:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6SMr1Re003211; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:53:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:53:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager Message-Id: <20130729005301.ffcebf72.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FF6013@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FF6013@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Devin Teske X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:53:03 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +0000, Teske, Devin wrote: > In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death > of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. % which sade /usr/sbin/sade System is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE of August 2011. I think sade has been introduced in a v8 version of FreeBSD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 28 23:06:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5538FF5E for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ataraxi@telia.com) Received: from smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (smtp-out12.han.skanova.net [195.67.226.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA052F4C for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alice.nodomain.nowhere (95.199.151.241) by smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (8.5.133) (authenticated as u51204108) id 51B4DDE700941905; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:05:06 +0200 Received: by alice.nodomain.nowhere (Postfix, from userid 1002) id CE7E51F4A75; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:04:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alice.nodomain.nowhere (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3C61F4858; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:04:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:04:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Conny Andersson To: Teske Devin Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FF6013@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Message-ID: References: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FF6013@ltcfiswmsgmb21> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:06:43 -0000 Hi Devin, Apropos sade (sysadmins disk editor). I have it at /usr/sbin/sade and I am running a FreeBSD 8.3. I also mounted FreeBSD 8.1 and FreeBSD 8.2 and found sade at /usr/sbin/ even in these older FreeBSDs. Regards, Conny > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Teske, Devin wrote: > > In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of > sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. > > In-fact... sade was (up until recently in HEAD) actual code removed from > sysinstall(8). > > NOTE: In HEAD, sade(8) is now a direct path to "bsdinstall partedit" > > I don't know what the long-term goals are for sade, but it's a nice > 4-letter acronym that's a nice keystroke saver (at the very least). > -- > Devin >> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Ian Smith wrote: >> --- --- --- >> Right. sysinstall(8) - or at least the fdisk and bsdlabel modules that >> constitute sade(8) - remains the only safe and sane way to handle MBR >> disks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 04:04:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F855B8; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 04:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228E52961; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 04:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2013 13:34:13 +0930 Message-ID: <51F5E9BA.3020103@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:34:10 +0930 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130516 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager References: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FF6013@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <20130729005301.ffcebf72.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130729005301.ffcebf72.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Devin Teske , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 04:04:16 -0000 On 29/07/2013 08:23, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +0000, Teske, Devin wrote: >> In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death >> of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. > > % which sade > /usr/sbin/sade > > System is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE of August 2011. I think sade has > been introduced in a v8 version of FreeBSD. > Or earlier. On 9.1 man sade says -- HISTORY This version of sade first appeared in FreeBSD 6.3. The code is extracted from the sysinstall(8) utility. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 07:31:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA02D274; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varanasisai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-x229.google.com (mail-vb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8635922CD; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id g17so2580173vbg.28 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:31:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=x/Wa0liEFAFo/KSVMEpO9U/ohxK5wos95gGaxjysA6w=; b=QRJ52eSnFFrMYWT77cX3arbKaHx/4Hw0sfJJ146WS9eyki5hQ3UoDOWmEOhhB0JBOi 6b/aL0r3HrwWo63yFZVfq1Mh/RBDyZgIYcrYSdSUQ6fxDAb5Zolm7JA2kD5IsSec/HqT DSRPrII2koarJarQA9I0hZ9LfFADD8xITfrxfjrsnXV5hhdNU3Sg2YnS3HKSLofxo1YU nyjHh9ou6szpql3aDVS+dEiq3k45HtTgSWoyaPHZwTs6i9hzh61iUIisAa6BPUpu5WsZ iNwAEKUHU0kzVgNP3dbrWJQMEGySRP09NZccqxYH1Agn/Xzj2dpspf0sKXxdIE+V+c+8 yu8A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.64.243 with SMTP id r19mr1670441vds.76.1375083109553; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.233.9 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:01:49 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Kernel Panic - Unix socket communication in kernel module From: varanasi sainath To: freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: abgupta@microsoft.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:31:51 -0000 Hello, I am writing a kernel module in which I am trying to connect to a UNIX socket (UNIX domain sockets use the file system as their address name space). Kernel module (loadable) acts as a client and User mode program acts as server, I have loaded the module using kldload and communication between user and kernel module works fine, when I try to load the kernel module from loader.conf - auto load the kernel module at boot up leads to kernel panic as the file system is not ready and kern_connect fails. How to notify kernel module that File system is ready? (any specific event flags) Is there any specific location for Unix domain socket files? (currently created it under /root/soc/socket ) Using "MODULE_DEPEND" Can I make the module dependent of file system? Thanks. * * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 08:58:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DB1D9D for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE1AA27E8 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r6T8wVQp074706; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:58:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:58:31 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Conny Andersson Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20130729175252.V32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FF6013@ltcfiswmsgmb21> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Teske Devin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:58:44 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:04:04 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: > Hi Devin, > > Apropos sade (sysadmins disk editor). I have it at /usr/sbin/sade and I am > running a FreeBSD 8.3. I also mounted FreeBSD 8.1 and FreeBSD 8.2 and found > sade at /usr/sbin/ even in these older FreeBSDs. I can't recall if sade was in 6.x but it certainly is in 7.x. I think Devin meant to say 'in 9 and earlier'. Yes it's taken from the fdisk and bsdlabel sections of sysinstall, but existed long before there was talk of deprecating sysinstall, apart from Jordan's self-deprecatory comments some 18 years ago suggesting it should be updated/replaced, as found under BUGS in sysinstall(8) up to at least 8.2, but not in 9.x: This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira- tion date and is greatly in need of death. > Regards, > > Conny > > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Teske, Devin wrote: > > > > In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of > > sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. > > > > In-fact... sade was (up until recently in HEAD) actual code removed from > > sysinstall(8). > > > > NOTE: In HEAD, sade(8) is now a direct path to "bsdinstall partedit" Well that will be alright if 'bsdinstall partedit' now does the hitherto missing sade functions, particulary Disklabel Editor functions such as allowing one to toggle newfs on particular (BSD) partitions, toggle softupdates, use custom newfs options, and delete-and-merge partitions? > > I don't know what the long-term goals are for sade, but it's a nice > > 4-letter acronym that's a nice keystroke saver (at the very least). As I said, unless you're into the arcane maths needed to run fdisk and bsdlabel manually, sade (or its functions in sysinstall) is the only safe and sane way to manage MBR disks. I'd love to be proven wrong .. And credit to you, Devin, for developing bsdconfig to replace most of sysinstall's other post-installation functions. I'll have a play with that when I upgrade my 9.1 to 9.2 fairly soon. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 10:19:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107A0340 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 758672B96 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6TAJL3o093399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:19:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6TAJLK2093396 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:19:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:19:21 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: portupgrade -fpv devel/bzr fails with po/sv.po:193:13: invalid multibyte sequence Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-702077211-1375093161=:71746" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:19:27 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-702077211-1375093161=:71746 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi, Is gettext 0.18.3 less forgiving than previous versions? Or are some of the translations encoded wrong? I even tried twice to forcefully upgrade everything depending on converters/libiconv, e.g. portupgrade -fprv converters/libiconv, but that didn't make a difference. Is there anything I can do, or should I wait until the translators catches up? running build_mo creating bzrlib/locale creating bzrlib/locale/my creating bzrlib/locale/my/LC_MESSAGES Compile: po/my.po -> bzrlib/locale/my/LC_MESSAGES/bzr.mo msgfmt -o bzrlib/locale/my/LC_MESSAGES/bzr.mo po/my.po creating bzrlib/locale/en_GB creating bzrlib/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES Compile: po/en_GB.po -> bzrlib/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/bzr.mo msgfmt -o bzrlib/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/bzr.mo po/en_GB.po creating bzrlib/locale/sv creating bzrlib/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES Compile: po/sv.po -> bzrlib/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/bzr.mo msgfmt -o bzrlib/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/bzr.mo po/sv.po po/sv.po:193:13: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:193:14: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:220:12: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:220:13: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:220:35: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:220:36: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:220:43: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:220:44: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:220:62: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:220:63: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:229:23: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:229:24: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:233:37: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:233:38: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:233:44: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:233:45: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:233:53: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:233:54: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:233:58: invalid multibyte sequence po/sv.po:233:59: invalid multibyte sequence msgfmt: too many errors, aborting error: command 'msgfmt' failed with exit status 1 *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/bzr. *** [build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/bzr. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20130729-96692-18p61og env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=bzr-2.5.1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.5.1 make DEPENDS_TARGET=package ** Fix the problem and try again. ---> Build of devel/bzr ended at: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:09:28 +0200 (consumed 00:01:25) ---> Upgrade of devel/bzr ended at: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:09:28 +0200 (consumed 00:01:25) ---> ** Upgrade tasks 1: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed ---> Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! devel/bzr (bzr-2.5.1) (unknown build error) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed ---> Session ended at: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:09:28 +0200 (consumed 00:01:27) -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-702077211-1375093161=:71746-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 10:32:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F076EF for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7E712C16 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (lon.namesco.net [195.7.254.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6TAWFGK044108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:32:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <51F644AE.4070006@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:32:14 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aryeh Friedman Subject: Re: where to get the release notes for 9.2 References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:32:19 -0000 On 28/07/2013 02:27, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > There is a specific feature I need to see if it is in 9.2 or just 10 > where can I find the draft release notes for 9.2? http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes.html lists 9-stable release notes (http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/9-STABLE/relnotes/index.html) which says it was last updated 2013-06-16 So I believe this would be the place. Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 10:34:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A545D80F for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6878A2C43 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D4D3C35E; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6TAYkhc001900; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:34:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:34:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Shane Ambler Subject: Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager Message-Id: <20130729123446.26db0c7d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <51F5E9BA.3020103@ShaneWare.Biz> References: <20130729013637.M32053@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FF6013@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <20130729005301.ffcebf72.freebsd@edvax.de> <51F5E9BA.3020103@ShaneWare.Biz> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:34:49 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:34:10 +0930, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 29/07/2013 08:23, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +0000, Teske, Devin wrote: > >> In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death > >> of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. > > > > % which sade > > /usr/sbin/sade > > > > System is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE of August 2011. I think sade has > > been introduced in a v8 version of FreeBSD. > > > > Or earlier. On 9.1 man sade says -- > > HISTORY > This version of sade first appeared in FreeBSD 6.3. The code is > extracted from the sysinstall(8) utility. Really _that_ old? I have to admit that I never really _knew_ about sade, and that is has been mentioned to me when I was already using FreeBSD 8.x, so my memory can be "distorted" in this regards. Out of lazyness, I've been using the corresponding functionality of sysinstall - formerly also known as /stand/sysinstall :-) - to access what sade can also do. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 11:19:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2200CE5A for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D12C2FF1 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6TBJUs4080986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:19:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51F64FC2.8080506@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:19:30 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Panic - Unix socket communication in kernel module References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:19:40 -0000 On 29/07/2013 08:31, varanasi sainath wrote: > Hello, > > I am writing a kernel module in which I am trying to connect to a UNIX > socket > (UNIX domain sockets use the file system as their address name space). > Kernel module (loadable) acts as a client and User mode program acts as > server, > I have loaded the module using kldload and communication between > user and kernel module works fine, > when I try to load the kernel module from loader.conf - > auto load the kernel module at boot up leads to kernel panic > as the file system is not ready and kern_connect fails. > > How to notify kernel module that File system is ready? > (any specific event flags) > > Is there any specific location for Unix domain socket files? > (currently created it under /root/soc/socket ) > > Using "MODULE_DEPEND" Can I make the module dependent of file system? > > I shall resist the obvious "why" question. I'm assuming you're talking about a fifo here (aka named pipe, and occasionally called UNIX socket) rather than the BSD network socket interface. IIRC since 4.3BSD fifos have been implemented using sockets internally anyway. Where to put it? I tend to go for /tmp but somewhere in /var might make more sense for something that's always supposed to be there. I don't know how to tell when the FS is ready but it will be when init runs, so you might like to try the sysctl variables. Knowing that init is always PID 1, the value of kern.lastpid should give a hint. There may be an official way of doing this properly. You could always load the module from rc.local instead. Regards, Frank. P.S. You do know that an fd only relates to the kernel thread it's currently running in? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 13:14:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBA96AD for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f47.google.com (mail-bk0-f47.google.com [209.85.214.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F14562593 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f47.google.com with SMTP id jg9so527879bkc.6 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:14:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-forwarded-message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=m9LC3H0beotlarmwrzf6LLJQX5ZpHVq/rBcBE1bzdks=; b=hixtV3iYLf/hIP9ZJF/tVgsHJPzaqy6ti2g4eCgNOfjaDKHKW73ezEo3eX6+2VX5Jp 6JQ2z6I5YtmUi2CV5gZFazmWTEOrzL9ZW5RfjP1ovMmkqD2nD/ijVBnAATNBwxxW0NjY pEvvB8gcpLrTkVEcLVzrM98YkdA9M9KICQy1IAeT9h8r63XNYuJuviXTX7lw/EIpr7gN 4ENXuqnT9XaWa20JmGG0qdNEDd4hnDpAkWsr2qJcBJsA1A93Sds/LXiircxwPh/stT/l t/HAFL7RJ2ADylWKi4TFgaTnDJIjgNshNVACgBrcav8onQCGV3QOGtvBNOTXi8v2sFqG mZbA== X-Received: by 10.205.115.132 with SMTP id fe4mr4663488bkc.179.1375103211087; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.30.169.6] ([46.10.208.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ct12sm15937284bkb.12.2013.07.29.06.06.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:06:42 +0300 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: 2 lines References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl/my7RdLQDrXo59zfSiYBYqnkGLlKK8vNmfFWYx0rNtI2ZjDDgk4xTtfr063SuCWd+8F+9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:14:40 -0000 Hi, I have 2 fiber lines and using pfsense(freebsd) I can easily use them for backup of LAN --> Internet traffic i.e when primary is down, second line kick in automatically. However when one line is down all connections Internet --> LAN to certain service(e.g www) via that connection are down as expected. My question is: is there some smart(e.g DNS) solution that can help me overcome this ? Thanks, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 13:30:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C85B0D for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x231.google.com (mail-oa0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8D512637 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id n16so1571227oag.22 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:30:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AgN3jbOl6hKTggsO3uCjQkabDhpClw1jtXMPXHCxgLo=; b=TB148FAYq/+3SFDYaz7nPCj3d4JEJsPnWt+0b5xaOkXma6KvnRg0CVMw1PzO7EpgH2 Gr7+TLQXbavxNrTJmsJ2P3brS10I+k0xpUuBnVH41pcIl+f8qQCSauAT1Qr/Ov8+BtgZ vKRnl6DBJLfIPfXxvJXIA5NfStQfExz9vU9jX0/tCISxYFhfWDrZwMfNl5YXHGAaqUYL dQcsKdsc0Nb2ppdXvDDwVzYRdGr2lQT/jy+0tTbw8UEIdj2a49nlsDNF5ticW7brJIt0 c99Aiuuxb/qVcdWZFGbTyl9WF7U/EZMk4YZ8OsAFIGducweAIZfyHM+Q1mqWok9erikD wsow== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.45.195 with SMTP id p3mr5240743obm.29.1375104652221; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.90.197 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:30:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:30:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2 lines From: Outback Dingo To: "Zyumbilev, Peter" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:30:53 -0000 On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > Hi, > > I have 2 fiber lines and using pfsense(freebsd) I can easily use them > for backup of LAN --> Internet traffic i.e when primary is down, second > line kick in automatically. However when one line is down all > connections Internet --> LAN to certain service(e.g www) via that > connection are down as expected. > > My question is: is there some smart(e.g DNS) solution that can help me > overcome this ? > using dns for this is the wrong way to go about it..... > > Thanks, > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 13:40:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49286E59 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound1.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E109F26CD for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.68] (cpc2-sgyl30-2-0-cust423.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [80.192.35.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6TDPAL8010185 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:25:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host cpc2-sgyl30-2-0-cust423.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [80.192.35.168] claimed to be [192.168.100.68] Message-ID: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:25:08 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Unusual file: /bin/[ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:40:05 -0000 Hi, I spotted what i'd call an unusual file in the basejail on a jail install, and have since seen this on other non jailed boxes. -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 11488 Jun 10 12:19 [ man [ reveals test, [ -- condition evaluation utility just checking thats all ok, and i've not been rooted! -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- High Specification Dedicated Servers from £100.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 13:44:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6966E for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63B6B270E for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67E4212D6 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:44:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=xH2pToVq5X7E+pXkecI12QPZ8xg=; b=JXn m7lHna1Dv27P3fJGtoYIyk/8LCIh2YQmrnph42hrJsZ07PiO/mSZwzhYliSoCBZX VHHBXqhs6Q/UzfcsssKejOv+jPKkFAxY4SdgGrYoMlALDfTNAkvHwxxw1qgDVqvZ f6LRH1utVZqYJrIXXrnRzXkBrYjn/PqshNqoTypE= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id BC2D7B01E70; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1375105462.8839.2810883.49A97576@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: jJTbbDwFBrQl97c2oPpSlaXX23oDCjT7icoH1r5XsuHb 1375105462 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-23e62cd3 In-Reply-To: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> References: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> Subject: Re: Unusual file: /bin/[ Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:44:22 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:44:35 -0000 That's a real binary, also known as /bin/test From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 13:45:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A63268 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-we0-f170.google.com (mail-we0-f170.google.com [74.125.82.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF7B12722 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id w60so4045169wes.1 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:45:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=d0sTV2jVOclgSRBAXByPnaeESoQRXQNV/fVtaNxBAeM=; b=BuSPW6o63q1k3HAJfOd8st/jXs6zAAv5kS9VcdYqyPxGJZeCQ96a6v6sQzuF8T7FlA dhdqpEzov0XzYYCkWm7w8WtWf9RCcoLcdHPetf/j7gUGFIC8HcytA531VTGT2AO5l43v SOrdPIlkJ0iOcgKCkAO5MVFy9REHzn1uQ4EOeKKJwsWRBXpXkwvYXxNwGsgQKN94za9o bLwntBLlA3rvH6FotHd6APN86wSUvuTJAYOorGlUw7zTF0lM5w9LlT52Z4PPG4DMUT9z PGM708MtPeb30o1mdTl3Zytn8p3FypKgW8gYQ3jtWa/mw9jAr1Yrnfk/pT7pK/ltBRTR iy4g== X-Received: by 10.180.77.231 with SMTP id v7mr7294469wiw.49.1375105513028; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (p5DDDAFE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [93.221.175.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i1sm22654066wiz.6.2013.07.29.06.45.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F671E6.7070708@cordula.ws> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:45:10 +0200 From: cpghost User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130711 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unusual file: /bin/[ References: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> In-Reply-To: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkvkwAMKH7EXTsRkSzO2m95xMGYaEfTHtT1NNz3Uy2HwdCzGCjRTsYxlKtrKNXbXZ4ls2z4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:45:15 -0000 On 07/29/13 15:25, Paul Macdonald wrote: > Hi, I spotted what i'd call an unusual file in the basejail on a jail > install, and have since seen this on other non jailed boxes. > > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 11488 Jun 10 12:19 [ That's a perfectly valid UNIX program used in (bourne) shell programming. It has been part of BSD Unix for ages. And I really mean AGES! > just checking thats all ok, and i've not been rooted! Don't worry about it. It's perfectly legitimate. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 13:46:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD9B452 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20BD3273D for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id C367220960 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:46:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=wGMTdunx2Rtd7mNSuf8ARRlTlWs=; b=fOWbZ Nw55YAnIqeIsMPLs1qhhsv6Y7DdYP2lw6xuiAXPzH+bp0ZFGyLDms+WSpa4Jitun 7eSUBIuKBfQrI3MosSG+SgXL8klR/7tz4fTjZLnUj4DFMPpUnHueBaNQ/PG+jMyQ TJLsk6/lF91pTuqnB5HnS1BI4RoQR5mb27V4Vg= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id A916EB01E70; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: is3nqJnvzh7thP/TY3tcTuxjc02P6Y2kMq3onPkHdhrN 1375105599 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-23e62cd3 Subject: Re: 2 lines Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:46:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:46:41 -0000 The right way to handle this is to get your own IP allocation and do BGP out both providers. Then the internet can reach you over both internet connections and when one goes down all traffic is routed through your other connection. Another feasible, but poor option: proxy your services out in the cloud and have it be intelligent enough to be able to reach your content over both providers and properly failover when one goes down. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 13:52:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D556E53D for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@go2france.com) Received: from omx1.hctc.net (omx1.hctc.net [69.4.62.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67202775 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hctc.net (unknown [69.4.62.44]) by omx1.hctc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91D311480 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:43:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=69.4.54.186; From: lconrad@go2france.com To: Subject: Re: 2 lines Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: <51f67173.42f.28e1f100.59197860@go2france.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 69.4.54.186 X-Mailer: SurgeWeb - Ajax Webmail Client X-Authenticated-User: lconrad@go2france.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:52:04 -0000 On Monday 29/07/2013 at 8:14 am, "Zyumbilev, Peter" wrote: > Hi, > > I have 2 fiber lines and using pfsense(freebsd) I can easily use them > for backup of LAN --> Internet traffic i.e when primary is down, > second > line kick in automatically. However when one line is down all > connections Internet --> LAN to certain service(e.g www) via that > connection are down as expected. > > My question is: is there some smart(e.g DNS) solution that can help me > overcome this ? DNS works at a higher layer that physical connections, so cannot be the solution, but may be required in a solution. fail-over for WAN link failure is the solution. For DNS, if you're running public domain named services and you cannot bring up the backup WAN link on the same IP as the failed primary, then you'll have to dynamically update the domain names with new A record. Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 13:54:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC55792 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7288F2797 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C12D249E8; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6TDs1fN002633; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:54:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:54:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Macdonald Subject: Re: Unusual file: /bin/[ Message-Id: <20130729155401.ec663cb5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> References: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:54:08 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:25:08 +0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > Hi, I spotted what i'd call an unusual file in the basejail on a jail > install, and have since seen this on other non jailed boxes. > > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 11488 Jun 10 12:19 [ > > man [ reveals > > test, [ -- condition evaluation utility > > just checking thats all ok, and i've not been rooted! The "[" program is the same as the "test" program. It's a valid file name and it's often used in shell scripts instead of "test". % ll /bin/test /bin/\[ -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 8336 2011-08-21 20:23:20 /bin/[* -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 8336 2011-08-21 20:23:20 /bin/test* Consider shell scripts. When you have a script with something like if [ -f bla.txt ]; then ... some stuff ... fi it is the same as if test -f bla.txt; then ... some stuff ... fi It's also often being used like [ -x blah.sh ] && do_something which is identical to calling "test" and acting upon the value of the return code. Nothing to worry here. YOu can _always_ counter-check by building /usr/src/bin/test from source and compare the resulting binary. Both /bin/[ and /bin/test are usually installed as hardlinks (two file names for one / for _the same_ file), as seen in the corresponding Makefile: LINKS= ${BINDIR}/test ${BINDIR}/[ So it's not _that_ unusual. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 14:06:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949F6FAC for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (mail-bk0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 245682872 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id je2so3958bkc.4 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:06:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=m9LC3H0beotlarmwrzf6LLJQX5ZpHVq/rBcBE1bzdks=; b=L1T4uaY1TL9mIAbh6ZBl+WNraxHJ0CIDpNfWdy70PbhGB2T35k328KXZMRygzMdW8m V5mRbZRuiX331tTUETxJmndBnolirKK/dsIyJm2w7763ZXy2SUVhxGbhwFaF/tkS2TsB T7NuWvEmvL0nWLJ88gu+LRXu6Yj/n86+I3qvrIf3aznNGGbyKWQxYn0Ns+Fg4U0U9YJd BVcK2xt211wTo9gCEjxwcPPG7GOSOP3BmOOpJ0DC1Cj1j8xKNvYlGocs2sGO3adDB8su dGyzuQ4PjrAgjF8Y70U09Mi9gSUDjRdT3/yakrff2p3yOdg4pQhbewv/WxCV1Q6thr0n 0RLg== X-Received: by 10.204.228.198 with SMTP id jf6mr558163bkb.171.1375103016739; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.102.189] ([93.155.250.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cb7sm16018076bkb.16.2013.07.29.06.03.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:03:28 +0300 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: 2 lines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkspAKCuqmQIq1AvhS4yISGzwI32j6qiqw0kul5gvYgTsFY+UsSVYjKNCsRPwlc3jBO7cIQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:06:59 -0000 Hi, I have 2 fiber lines and using pfsense(freebsd) I can easily use them for backup of LAN --> Internet traffic i.e when primary is down, second line kick in automatically. However when one line is down all connections Internet --> LAN to certain service(e.g www) via that connection are down as expected. My question is: is there some smart(e.g DNS) solution that can help me overcome this ? Thanks, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 14:07:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D018FB for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-x22e.google.com (mail-ee0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 956222881 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f46.google.com with SMTP id c13so371518eek.5 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:07:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CukWF5SgOh9dFCH0K4Nm0BfSqEbWUb6jK58Z9W0EXgY=; b=0KvdJVSFNN5JZ6uuSBubjQwbZ9RMz4n0H4Wqi6MzeQawu9m6lfolAMOVygkAoo7d3b SJ0S8QPEcsaq1XP+/GDWJ5ZDB1WALn0D7xTYn5bq+s4+uAFiwwElpFF+O69LTp6QPHap EKA847EDj+tdd3qVMYgtk+hXElf57wylJLc0qGuB4mHU0zt7QD8Kaa3s/QKoSBKE9Pqx Kn8oqnSxEGUO3c9lWCcQqbwX9BGQN4s9FlXD2xpQURHDmZ8zKTmOTedMb6AT4rI+NDff 4ypN6vZnVdKMWvlh3p7/fIN+RY2hi/Z3lIy8m6VKqewmTeEV2dayd5gQdT4WC07UIn8W oFkw== X-Received: by 10.15.53.4 with SMTP id q4mr60395076eew.134.1375106848787; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cg12sm102445791eeb.7.2013.07.29.07.07.27 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:07:27 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unusual file: /bin/[ Message-ID: <20130729150727.121517d2@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> References: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:07:31 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:25:08 +0100 Paul Macdonald wrote: > > Hi, I spotted what i'd call an unusual file in the basejail on a jail > install, and have since seen this on other non jailed boxes. > > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 11488 Jun 10 12:19 [ > > man [ reveals > > test, [ -- condition evaluation utility > > just checking thats all ok, and i've not been rooted! The idea was to make shell scripts more readable as you can have something like: if [ ${x} -gt 1 ] ... [ is a hard-link to /bin/test and the closing] "]" is its last argument. In most modern shells its a builtin feature and /bin/[ isn't used. 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Ñ ÑƒÐ²Ð°Ð¶ÐµÐ½Ð¸ÐµÐ¼, Людмила From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 16:40:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58272146 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f51.google.com (mail-bk0-f51.google.com [209.85.214.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAC692120 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ji1so2065454bkc.24 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:40:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=JoG9BJI+eo8A12op66oJo9MoHWU5To6Q5y1vDq5/U7Y=; b=YQfOwf6k8kJo+hvWoE6sz90wLgl0BzKtcPYBYqxlQmDwUAnhe9MOWEUUGNVX79TgpF lbjJq5/nfAqZnHMufyBbGtLh1EezRan1ZyD3NoRhsXcsOhKumRmUBH8uaFkSI2byaENi 9QpVvnECq3E8sNuHxeOO61jX99U4xeRJcG4YPgHLsn0eTdCDEr0xg/83B10/2lM5NfOy omWBXWVYxYrsodMZSFcdgGRQpzaEtmsrq/+ULIOMoPCCchSICpC54lUYvYcUeN4Mnb8b KJtSVlciXw4qPjVXAXZgcphPg+0fLTdZFg6oB2tfoqO/kOyAySqYVAQ9/4YshYp21E8e w+mg== X-Received: by 10.205.86.66 with SMTP id ar2mr2862211bkc.128.1375116009702; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.102.189] ([93.155.250.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id if11sm16311618bkc.15.2013.07.29.09.39.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:38:55 +0300 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 lines References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlnQq/LEpO2xjEuythr8/HKIFPo2kHlbj2MHkGJWyZsUK8cZ7RdDrNp6QfNb1mT9RQIjlD6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:40:18 -0000 On 29/07/2013 16:46, Mark Felder wrote: > The right way to handle this is to get your own IP allocation and do BGP > out both providers. Then the internet can reach you over both internet > connections and when one goes down all traffic is routed through your > other connection. > Not sure what is the best way nowadays to get own /24 or at least /26 ? I wonder if there is "second hand" ip market :-) Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 17:03:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A5BA74 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:84c1::deaf:babe]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 115D522B2 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.130.11.108] (cm-84.210.76.250.getinternet.no [84.210.76.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 126BB2E40B; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:03:07 +0200 (CEST) References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <62E804FE-0941-4F40-83C5-8BCAC26CB3E0@elde.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) From: Terje Elde Subject: Re: 2 lines Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:03:04 +0200 To: "Zyumbilev, Peter" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:03:10 -0000 On 29. juli 2013, at 18:38, "Zyumbilev, Peter" wrot= e: > Not sure what is the best way nowadays to get own /24 or at least /26 ? I don't think you ever said if this was two links from the same provider, or= two different providers. That's a huge factor in what your options are.=20 You'll have a hard time doing BGP-based failover with a /26. It's just too s= mall a route to be announced globally.=20 This stuff isn't just a technical question, but also one of policy and polit= ics. In order to get to a proper solution, your best option is probably to g= ive the provider(s) a call, and explain what you'd like to do.=20 Depening on a lot of things, one option could be to have the provider owning= the IP(s) tunnel it over the other link durin fault. Hard to say if they wi= ll, so you really nedd to talk to them.=20 In the meantime, DNS-failover is a lot better than nothing.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 17:07:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24835E8B for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8A8C2337 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6TH7MP6073769 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:07:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r6TH7MP6073769 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r6TH7MP6073769; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) Message-ID: <51F6A128.6060903@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:06:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Zyumbilev, Peter" Subject: Re: 2 lines References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9KtdBs2ALnmif9hwtAcMA8HJOPOom05Oo" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:07:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --9KtdBs2ALnmif9hwtAcMA8HJOPOom05Oo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29/07/2013 17:38, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > Not sure what is the best way nowadays to get own /24 or at least /26 ?= > I wonder if there is "second hand" ip market :-) Get a /64 or a /48 and subnet it...? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 18:00:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97611F9D for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6063925CE for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V3rVR-0000kk-Jd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:45:13 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1V3rW8-00061R-MP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:45:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:45:56 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unusual file: /bin/[ Message-Id: <20130729184556.efa39d621af8a4f814dca04a@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <51F671E6.7070708@cordula.ws> References: <51F66D34.8010803@ifdnrg.com> <51F671E6.7070708@cordula.ws> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:00:04 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:45:10 +0200 cpghost wrote: > On 07/29/13 15:25, Paul Macdonald wrote: > > Hi, I spotted what i'd call an unusual file in the basejail on a jail > > install, and have since seen this on other non jailed boxes. > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 11488 Jun 10 12:19 [ > > That's a perfectly valid UNIX program used in > (bourne) shell programming. It has been part of > BSD Unix for ages. And I really mean AGES! I recall someone deciding that /bin/[ looked iffy and deleted it from a FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 box busy serving connections to a bunch of dial up users. An amazing number of things stopped working. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 20:06:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77911F54 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 388742CE4 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber3.nber.org (nber3.nber.org [66.251.72.73]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6TK6auL018741 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:06:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Terje Elde Subject: Re: 2 lines In-Reply-To: <62E804FE-0941-4F40-83C5-8BCAC26CB3E0@elde.net> Message-ID: References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> <62E804FE-0941-4F40-83C5-8BCAC26CB3E0@elde.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.03 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20130729 #10735308, check: 20130729 clean Cc: "Zyumbilev, Peter" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:06:50 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Terje Elde wrote: > On 29. juli 2013, at 18:38, "Zyumbilev, Peter" wrote: >> Not sure what is the best way nowadays to get own /24 or at least /26 ? > > I don't think you ever said if this was two links from the same > provider, or two different providers. That's a huge factor in what your > options are. > > You'll have a hard time doing BGP-based failover with a /26. It's just > too small a route to be announced globally. > > This stuff isn't just a technical question, but also one of policy and > politics. In order to get to a proper solution, your best option is > probably to give the provider(s) a call, and explain what you'd like to > do. > > Depening on a lot of things, one option could be to have the provider > owning the IP(s) tunnel it over the other link durin fault. Hard to say > if they will, so you really nedd to talk to them. > > In the meantime, DNS-failover is a lot better than nothing. Did the OP say he was running servers at all? If there are no servers, then any of a number of "dual-wan routers" will handle the problem with no difficulty and minimal expense. If he is running servers, these routers generally come with built in software to do dynamic updates of DNS, that I understand works, provided you don't have unreasonable expectations about reliability. Just because some institutions can't stand 5 minutes of downtime doesn't mean there isn't a legitimate use for facilities that suffer 5 minutes of downtime several times a year. daniel feenberg NBER > > Terje > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 20:11:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C47B3BD for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22e.google.com (mail-ob0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1405A2D37 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id wd6so7000721obb.5 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:11:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TJb1l7QjUV6pVU8fBBycfSteQj5mzDynjcOwkhyVLrk=; b=T+faStA25lwCXhDJ703uZemGqmWkhd0b2WsOV0QnP/8FFA2t82/pHsat38jaC7ZhIr fl0u7Tpo+HBfOtVcKNa7OtmSrmzol3PmLKkvJNNbReyK4XV3R00EP0vqKJPb6kJ61qwj 961VrT+mdB1LN8LHqjwdL3KLRteF8t/SUjtbtXpTSrMikwG9+7aTuAaaCUW3Q1uyFO6M JOuNM5fPAgEiE82go2vE11qgctWZVNjNjJsv36yGfxKK8qAZ6MyzMkocaZ4qDUHxVwfb abPLquwoFO91Xv68OUqDgcJLKYlJkrDHxGv61zmnnbJNXAo5MdlRbYCrNkU92BzmJJoY qRow== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.102.41 with SMTP id fl9mr59939966oeb.37.1375128689349; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.90.197 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:11:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> <62E804FE-0941-4F40-83C5-8BCAC26CB3E0@elde.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:11:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2 lines From: Outback Dingo To: Daniel Feenberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Terje Elde , "Zyumbilev, Peter" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:11:30 -0000 On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Terje Elde wrote: > > On 29. juli 2013, at 18:38, "Zyumbilev, Peter" >> wrote: >> >>> Not sure what is the best way nowadays to get own /24 or at least /26 ? >>> >> >> I don't think you ever said if this was two links from the same provider, >> or two different providers. That's a huge factor in what your options are. >> >> You'll have a hard time doing BGP-based failover with a /26. It's just >> too small a route to be announced globally. >> >> This stuff isn't just a technical question, but also one of policy and >> politics. In order to get to a proper solution, your best option is >> probably to give the provider(s) a call, and explain what you'd like to do. >> >> Depening on a lot of things, one option could be to have the provider >> owning the IP(s) tunnel it over the other link durin fault. Hard to say if >> they will, so you really nedd to talk to them. >> >> In the meantime, DNS-failover is a lot better than nothing. >> > > Did the OP say he was running servers at all? If there are no servers, > then any of a number of "dual-wan routers" will handle the problem with no > difficulty and minimal expense. If he is running servers, these routers > generally come with built in software to do dynamic updates of DNS, that I > understand works, provided you don't have unreasonable expectations about > reliability. Just because some institutions can't stand 5 minutes of > downtime doesn't mean there isn't a legitimate use for facilities that > suffer 5 minutes of downtime several times a year. Yes he did... "However when one line is down all connections Internet --> LAN to certain service(e.g www) via that connection are down as expected." > > > daniel feenberg > NBER > > > >> Terje >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> >> ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 20:46:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with 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Jul 2013 22:45:32 -0000 just did a ports update, haven't done one for a few months. portmaster -w www/firefox craps out with: In file included from /usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/gfx/2d/Blur.cp p:7: In file included from ../../dist/include/mozilla/gfx/Blur.h:12: ../../dist/include/mozilla/CheckedInt.h:179:31: error: non-type template argument of type 'const bool' is not an integral constant expression static const bool value = IntegerType(-1) <= IntegerType(0); ^ ../../dist/include/mozilla/CheckedInt.h:343:28: note: while checking a default template argument used here return IsInRangeImpl::run(x); Have I got something screwed up? I don't know squat about c++ templates and can't see what's wrong. hints? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 23:25:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7F362E for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@ds-69961.ds-10.com) Received: from ds-69961.ds-10.com (ds-69961.ds-10.com [46.32.226.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AD612679 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nobody by ds-69961.ds-10.com with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1V3wA7-00042N-55 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:43:31 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: First commercial 1080p satellite broadcasts in Afric Recieved: Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 22:43:31 +0000 From: nick@landscapetv.com Message-ID: <4ad45afd20d2d89db0d39caf19ad2ee7@landscapehd.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73] X-Mailer: phplist v2.10.12 X-MessageID: 124 X-ListMember: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ds-69961.ds-10.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ds-69961.ds-10.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ds-69961.ds-10.com: uid via acl_c_vhost_owner from authenticated_id: nobody from /only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 23:25:08 -0000 The first commercial direct to home satellite broadcasting of a linear 1080p television channel will commence in Africa later this year, as the result of the agreement by Sahara Media of Tanzania to broadcast the Landscape Channel in full HD, commencing this autumn. This is a first for technology and for Africa. LandscapeHD will be available throughout Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Malawi, Mozambique and Burundi with a satellite footprint covering East and Central Africa. LandscapeHD is a languagelesss instrumental music channel showing the beauty of the natural world in the highest technical quality available to satellite broadcasters. LandscapeHD is a free to air music channel funded by national government tourism advertising, as well as global and local brand advertising, in a new languageless format only seen on the Landscape Channel. It takes global languagless tourism and destination advertising, previously used on the internet, and delivers it into traditional television broadcast homes using its new proprietary mini-server IP distribution system. This is connected to normal in-home television services (such as cable, satellite and now the fast developing connected tv market). This unique distribution system is expected to deliver a raft of new specialist music channels into traditional television distribution over the coming twelve months, as distributors discover how this new technology can deliver specialist music channels anywhere in the world, without the traditional costs associated with broadcast servers and rights societies determined to squeeze the life out of minority music channels by the charges they levy for specialist music at the same rate as pop music. Contact: Nick Austin Chairman +44 1424 830628 Editors note: LandscapeHD delivers its television signal globally from one source into any television distribution system anywhere in the world using a broadcast television server that costs less than the cost of an iphone and is about the same size. This technology delivers a 24 hour music television channel into any country anywhere in the world and into any format (adroid, smartphone, tablet, operating system or television system) without any cost to the user. Nick Austin was the co-founder of the Beggars Banquet music label (now often referred to as the fifth major) and is committed to the concept of delivering specialist msuic channels into television as the new store for music. -- If you do not want to receive any more newsletters, http://www.landscapehd.com/lists/?p=unsubscribe&uid=b2af32f916764866e3e3e21c5d7b75b8 To update your preferences and to unsubscribe visit http://www.landscapehd.com/lists/?p=preferences&uid=b2af32f916764866e3e3e21c5d7b75b8 Forward a Message to Someone http://www.landscapehd.com/lists/?p=forward&uid=b2af32f916764866e3e3e21c5d7b75b8&mid=124 -- Powered by PHPlist, www.phplist.com -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 00:54:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3060D3AF for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freeseomarkting@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x24d.google.com (mail-oa0-x24d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::24d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2C3829AC for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f77.google.com with SMTP id k14so155710oag.0 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:54:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:message-id:date:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JhOSVJGHun9+mFsbAC0JEVWEE7jBhY/lMW8VxJqoM74=; b=xbuDlqvbW8TG9pskGUsKoXdN0ZHYdhdiAgPL+2lELse7wm0kbMlVaCYNfq9t6ioLhp t0jMLZ+8JblBt0LZYXTO0tUIAbOsDSnXsB+DbMONuhLeNgGMbridPYjAtsDhQflpLDdi medfsdD/+jzgnErYsMh2Kmv6BnDzo+Eac2I5JoU4rdlJX9FV0yJ+0fKe3m9bFJLXlwi/ qXrdk5anShl5xnhPvuRhUofr/uooHf6xXcqNfUFASVamwg57iiTlVfYAOtkCf9/Zh3Cn AITBmly9DssVHvxgzMBC4CsWeCCehW4hLbLVnMn8C2EV+6IEoKxGMbB5A4YOllp26veZ OLfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.131.225 with SMTP id op1mr12497207igb.1.1375145690597; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <047d7b34419c6710bd04e2b00e04@google.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:54:50 +0000 Subject: Freebsd.org - Integrated marketing help From: Ethan Lim To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:54:52 -0000

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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 05:41:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97611A76 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f49.google.com (mail-bk0-f49.google.com [209.85.214.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25D7E2498 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id r7so1876213bkg.36 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 22:41:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=XsKsYRerIgVxgt/Uf8rIsDhw1CsT13Akrucxk4mFInE=; b=iYTkjfbPfvnkcoWGYepBo2g+V6ECc0to9IbZQiXxRvw+MZpa3Zq71h5FitF0kPxWbg QpKvyI6Qwxxi+JHhleYJo5DNapQ6kKYf1vC4e6YNs1+cmJd0/kEIelaNtxYpc1GdgYW2 84Yb2ry6zvipQsdTTAadm7QpM5Y8wMv4KBAPSsSU8eySDWnLCZHn67pECHhZilLxmecy 6W5eru5Oi8y9Fri/7jGrQ41gliqCs8y0F8AseWv9c9z1oNOgWqq6RcC5cgfv0q1p8Yjk 4Gpnqd1vvZCzikZ6Je03Y4FG7ocbfn5c/XOfrNzypuDiSBnw58gMHIUNrkvlpV5Yv10T raXA== X-Received: by 10.204.71.133 with SMTP id h5mr1732984bkj.0.1375162469145; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 22:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.102.189] ([93.155.250.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qw6sm16701143bkb.4.2013.07.29.22.34.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 22:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F7505B.3090200@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:34:19 +0300 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: 2 lines References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> <51F6A128.6060903@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51F6A128.6060903@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn+qwZ5HpYCks/Pnrp6QkCw2e0/U3zULX4zhXfMaWkRiRE9sZaJw2R+gV1tgxJEpm+mtr/5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:41:05 -0000 On 29/07/2013 20:06, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 29/07/2013 17:38, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: >> Not sure what is the best way nowadays to get own /24 or at least /26 ? >> I wonder if there is "second hand" ip market :-) > > > Get a /64 or a /48 and subnet it...? > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Hi, Lines are from 2 different ISPs and evn come physically via different route - protection again construction workers :-) Basically to be fair I need one single IP to have such fail over - the Citrix server. However really not sure what is the best way - the only feasible solution I found so far is DNS faiolver http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/services/dns-failover-system-monitoring/. However I am not 100% sure how well it will work and if this may cause more troubles and embarrassment in front of the customer than simply giving them in a email gate1.example.com(primary) gate2.example.com(backup) to connect. Cheers, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 07:42:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46904409; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB95296F; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2013 17:12:54 +0930 Message-ID: <51F76E7A.40504@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:12:50 +0930 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130516 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Zyumbilev, Peter" Subject: Re: 2 lines References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> <51F6A128.6060903@FreeBSD.org> <51F7505B.3090200@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <51F7505B.3090200@aboutsupport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:42:57 -0000 On 30/07/2013 15:04, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > However really not sure what is the best way - the only feasible > solution I found so far is DNS faiolver > http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/services/dns-failover-system-monitoring/. > However I am not 100% sure how well it will work and if this may cause > more troubles and embarrassment in front of the customer than simply > giving them in a email > > gate1.example.com(primary) > gate2.example.com(backup) I thought pfsense supported failover - or is that limited to outgoing? http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/File:RouterDiagram.png http://www.techvilleottawa.org/pfsense-load-balance-fail-over-setup/ Otherwise something like wackamole or heartbeat to keep the ip address alive? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 09:33:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E21AF3 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-5.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-5.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABE720F7 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd.asgard.uk ([92.238.71.115]) by know-smtprelay-5-imp with bizsmtp id 6ZYS1m00e2VE8Jc01ZYToE; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:32:27 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [92.238.71.115] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.0 cv=BfSAScR2 c=1 sm=1 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:17 a=JeQoOUP7H9MA:10 a=z6OmtuC8ihAA:10 a=U4kjxnpeAAAA:8 a=mW7fgHEEab4A:10 a=gaY5F68i5gR9GbFDlZAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=9dGZ9P5T1NnrE_3whNMA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:117 From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Demise of kde3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:32:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201307301032.26666.freebsd01@dgmm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:33:38 -0000 With the final demise of kde3 and the deprecation of kdelibs three, is anyone aware of something similar to klibido or plans to port klibido to kde4? I'm guessing the lack of concern means there's a tiny userbase or people have already found something else and moved on. As a workaround, I've saved packages of klibido and kdelibs3/qt3 for those times when qt4 related ports fail to build in their presence so I can locally pkg_add them back in, but eventually kilibido and it's support libs are going to fail on a current system, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 12:29:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6468F70C for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gh0-x22d.google.com (mail-gh0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17AEE2DDB for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gh0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g16so2115058ghb.18 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:29:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization:x-mailer :face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aUJsfMtbeRx232+wGFZyG3k8ZacvFieyOUE1iNkSUhI=; b=LUZ035guKR+iHH1RSWio8FbdJ3T1smcwf9r9gn1eaRW0Z6/a/gbeXs8zqryIGMRVdQ N7Ld0CDEQPBac9pauh7Z0XZNeDRytZ/Ax6Pb6XLIjCFKHBWP6ZXKTTykqn0SQbzD5c4q d2tpvGG/kRV6hYzlTqtuhPMzaaeJGSRR30iwY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization:x-mailer :face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=aUJsfMtbeRx232+wGFZyG3k8ZacvFieyOUE1iNkSUhI=; b=pmtxYfMQGRLiH/0zLVv8ibgz7Rc0qRoEpFzWAP/ylwPKzCMes6zYrqJEXy4aOCyyei wM2iIBU+JNZrGBkDKYLUKWpkLarVLMUrAZtlKDkEsU2+FEx5GKK50jB23i6D6K2/sPzB jXbCBF30A4yRiPUPOWTzM/39iGHxtvjqtpSYDQB6Q+rLRdjsAn5x8Z0rmbJ2IGchub+0 ZuDkVimPkMdvrVP/DY/8WMKxWDuw+XwQXjllYoDViYZKGrlarj8c0lOQkhDmQq8te2Z+ KdEOhCOOoQoIrGhVKG5ar567a5zrLl7iaT6cee5pIMu7ogYc3jQvR+5f5n23n8z5E80n ieAQ== X-Received: by 10.236.187.40 with SMTP id x28mr29331975yhm.250.1375187390178; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l67sm91130549yhc.26.2013.07.30.05.29.49 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3c4HCJ1WJqz2CG5c; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:29:47 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav Message-ID: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmDxkOQ1C0CxsJJAdwsO4XFhMiYB6VJkhkKR4aj3tPoEKG5QPUsvszYIIqbDKr0X2btSwu8 Cc: oliver@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:29:51 -0000 The "xcdroast" application use to work, but lately it has started to throw an error message. First, it would not let me start it unless I was "root". I had long ago done the reacquired preliminary start-up as root. Now, when I attempt to start it as root, it emits this error message: ~ # xcdroast ** (xcdroast:96970): WARNING **: Invalid cdda2wav version -unknown- found. Expecting at least version 2.01 Start xcdroast with the -n option to override (not recommended!) ~ # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/xcdroast I have tried deleting the port and rebuilding it, but the same problem exists. I have not been able to locate "cdda2wav" on the system or in a port. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 12:37:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA497DAD for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911622E79 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8991124DC0 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6UCbcHp004708 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:37:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:37:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav Message-Id: <20130730143738.643616e1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> References: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:37:40 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:29:47 -0400, Jerry wrote: > The "xcdroast" application use to work, but lately it has started to > throw an error message. First, it would not let me start it unless I was > "root". I had long ago done the reacquired preliminary start-up as root. If you set device permissions properly, you should not have to do this (potentially dangerous) elevation of privileges. > Now, when I attempt to start it as root, it emits this error message: > > ~ # xcdroast > > ** (xcdroast:96970): WARNING **: Invalid cdda2wav version -unknown- found. > Expecting at least version 2.01 > Start xcdroast with the -n option to override (not recommended!) > ~ # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/xcdroast > > I have tried deleting the port and rebuilding it, but the same problem > exists. That's a logical consequence, as cdda2wav is not part of this port, even though cdrtools is both defined as a build time and a runtime dependency... > I have not been able to locate "cdda2wav" on the system or in a > port. The cdda2wav program is part of the "cdrtools" port. Try updating that one. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 12:43:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5B44B3 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2EE32F55 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id e52so1786853eek.30 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:43:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=LK4JkqdvWsgCE/TdFFHvu2UF4z/r3ZmSUYx/rfzJlXI=; b=AhGXgfv2KbO6k15YNXfLL7pdmYtfj/Tr8p1bT0q4+h327SeA0kW+ZPjTeyqBUDtmMi Iy7UcclwAemUbP3uER0yen1qEAos1F6P/qZZiS+CZwk6OQ7S2sZCeg/oPlt5MFbswaIl pNola2OhqtdGWAtzWpzeC98IsRbCiGmB4m8oay196XVGRJEHMtVhTrLcl6adYwbwAllK fTy8QC0brPCfWxAyV4cOWufHKaLBMEaSYseXoEEFHWXyE/u5+V/tlDmydMUVwqxc251s W3HnpGF3DghWRGgCLne2QS54GHLaDOZEzDSUh8D38dQAMXZGY76uPlXkfnJFpviiLduv PbQA== X-Received: by 10.15.67.131 with SMTP id u3mr4805233eex.34.1375188208440; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.102.189] ([93.155.250.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 43sm16681263eek.5.2013.07.30.05.43.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F7B4E6.5070702@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:43:18 +0300 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 lines References: <51F66820.4080907@aboutsupport.com> <51F668E2.4090806@aboutsupport.com> <1375105599.9477.2811311.2C84EDDD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <51F69A9F.3050800@aboutsupport.com> <51F6A128.6060903@FreeBSD.org> <51F7505B.3090200@aboutsupport.com> <51F76E7A.40504@ShaneWare.Biz> In-Reply-To: <51F76E7A.40504@ShaneWare.Biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk8amExFVqftI/AaVYc0yFlLySWARGtov3EftQuNJoz/Hrw6Bxtlwa/5+HJczsYSogQAMiz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:43:36 -0000 On 30/07/2013 10:42, Shane Ambler wrote: >I thought pfsense supported failover - or is that limited to outgoing? > http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/File:RouterDiagram.png > http://www.techvilleottawa.org/pfsense-load-balance-fail-over-setup/ > > Otherwise something like wackamole or heartbeat to keep the ip address > alive? > > > "This setup enables pfSense to load balance traffic from your LAN to multiple internet connections (WANs). "...... This is only outgoing :( So so far 2 solutions: 1. Real one BGP, problem needs own ip range 2. DnsMadeEasy - cheap and easy ($34.50 per year), but not as good as BGP Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 14:36:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7CDEB1 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yh0-x22b.google.com (mail-yh0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F84227DC for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id z12so2067354yhz.30 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:36:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QG0di6sXUkvYIKe+OhnrmGX3ddT+S7v2iNtqlHJDuUI=; b=P8WfrvegQdHJnIMFD/0fzSH2lAATazze4R6Gf+WtnyJP8Aa0BejejVLq7PTqU/73ns mvRpIuAFnOvfDdNDrsyiSDGVUlslKkNOxnp69Nfc+VIIqzbguXy9DLH5p9EFmUJ75lJu 6IBs3YKl/r1rmw7+RytdadD5k4+q874XbVmos= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=QG0di6sXUkvYIKe+OhnrmGX3ddT+S7v2iNtqlHJDuUI=; b=Di9SCgnOyvE/USmS1veZAsXPmwa2abFcRaFk1rI6DNAIwU3bu2MwdM4xg4DiRwlR0u B784eTbrakr/RflZn6EcwHR85OPMtsozr1qzeaM5w4cqiDMd+KASxyRTH8WC5i0cOy9X ANJf1LZqhmbpaQnRTlJ5OKN7IDt53yEDvkMAIvcEFKc0HlFY6S/kfH5qg9Sodbh/sh5R SccpC7DYQngr+mKtnoxGy52q8ssLO3ND/UpJZdPk+yT61T/9pJf+dcNuoaIk5Ned0vAW x++dS9hR+2jmf9N75D/uFeg26QFiU3mwG8XtkGmXIZJyZ5WJyhFZ9NG2LnKDzm8OUEeh EkIw== X-Received: by 10.236.182.41 with SMTP id n29mr29991570yhm.234.1375194999546; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s29sm91742162yhf.6.2013.07.30.07.36.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3c4L1d3gGbz2CG5c for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:36:37 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav Message-ID: <20130730103637.1449800c@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130730143738.643616e1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> <20130730143738.643616e1.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnHkwzsgfJb/SX+WSbai/bZuKMceJfcekfHxO+s0bPcnQvZ1g+lg/lnmLqZRacmXJ7BrSoI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:36:41 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:37:38 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > The cdda2wav program is part of the "cdrtools" port. > Try updating that one. Been there, done that, doesn't work. I am considering doing a forced update of the xcdroast port and its dependencies via portupgrade. I really hate wasting time like this, but I need the port to work. Interestingly enough, this is the output from cdda2wav: # cdda2wav -version cdda2wav 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd8.3) Copyright (C) 1993-2004 Heiko Ei�feldt (C) 2004-2010 J�rg Schilling Defaults: stereo, 16 bit, 44100.00 Hz, track 1, no offset, one track, type: wav filename: 'audio', don't wait for signal, not quiet, use: 'generic_scsi', device: 'yourSCSI_Bus,yourSCSI_ID,yourSCSI_LUN', aux: '' Obviously, it is installed. The "xcdroast" application suddenly cannot locate it though or is not able to properly determine the version number. I am thinking of filing a PR against it. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 17:19:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F82822E for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=916e580da=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz2.oekb.co.at (mgaterz2.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CE6E2046 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchhubcas2.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.66]) by mgaterz2.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 30 Jul 2013 19:19:39 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by internal-relay-exchhubcas2.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.318.4; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:19:38 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6UHJcxX003645; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:19:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r6UHJcC5003644; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:19:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:19:38 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Subject: System hangs for several minutes (disk IO related) Message-ID: <20130730171938.GA3602@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:19:49 -0000 Hi, I'm seeing rather strange behavior on an HP DL585 G5 wrt. disk IO: When there's any disk io the machine completely freezes, i.e. no console input possible, no screen output - complete hang. After some minutes the box comes back to normal again - but sure enough with the next disk io it freezes again. To give you a typical example: While a "portsnap fetch extract" was running I did a "sync". Normally this should complete in a matter of milliseconds to seconds in the worst case - but dig this: # date;time sync;date Tue Jul 30 09:57:38 CEST 2013 0.000u 0.311s 9:54.69 0.0% 4+161k 0+1287io 0pf+0w Tue Jul 30 10:07:38 CEST 2013 # No, this is not a typo - it really took nearly ten minutes (!) for the sync to complete. In the meantime - every windows, all activity (console, screen-output etc.) is completely blocked. ('portsnap fetch extract' was only given as an example here - the lockup occurs whenever there is disk io like for example tar, etc). We're speaking about a machine with decent hardware here, here's an excerpt from "dmesg": ------------------------------ < Cut here > ------------------------------ FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253750: Mon Jul 29 11:07:04 CEST 2013 root@sniff-rz2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] CPU: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8358 SE (2411.16-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x100f23 Family = 0x10 Model = 0x2 Stepping = 3 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x802009 AMD Features=0xee400800 AMD Features2=0x7ff TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 137438953472 (131072 MB) avail memory = 132973432832 (126813 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 16 CPUs ... ciss0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xd9e00000-0xd9efffff,0xd9df0000-0xd9df0fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci8 ciss0: PERFORMANT Transport ... da0 at ciss0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: Command Queueing enabled da0: 139979MB (286677120 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 35132C) da0: quirks=0x1 ------------------------------ < Cut here > ------------------------------ Kernel: Latest kernel as of yesterday (9.2Beta) BIOS: is at the latest level (Support pack as of Spring 2013) installed which updated BIOS, iLO etc. Aside from that I reset BIOS to default values just to be sure. SmartArray P400 - Firmware 7.24 (latest) Harddisks: Two 146GB HDs running in Raid1-mode. Already tried hot-swapping the disks - didn't change anything. Needless to say - no error message etc. in neither dmesg nor /var/log/messages :-( To me it looks like this is some sort of timing problem - but where should I start looking? Thanks much in advance for any help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 18:27:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC57212 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925612370 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-81.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.81]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C07A3C770 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:26:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6UIQwnR001942 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:26:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:26:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav Message-Id: <20130730202658.03abf2de.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130730103637.1449800c@scorpio> References: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> <20130730143738.643616e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130730103637.1449800c@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:27:07 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:36:37 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:37:38 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > > The cdda2wav program is part of the "cdrtools" port. > > Try updating that one. > > Been there, done that, doesn't work. I am considering doing a forced > update of the xcdroast port and its dependencies via portupgrade. That seems to be the best choice at the moment. The port's Makefile contains --with-cdrtools-prefix=${LOCALBASE} which suggests that the integration of cdrtools / cdda2wav might already be important at compile time. Also look at the option "Use xcdroast w/o being root" which should enable you to use the program without being root (which is not good in terms of security). > I > really hate wasting time like this, but I need the port to work. This is a typical symptom of "install once, then keep using, and never touch it again". :-) > Interestingly enough, this is the output from cdda2wav: > > # cdda2wav -version > cdda2wav 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd8.3) Copyright (C) 1993-2004 Heiko Ei�feldt (C) 2004-2010 J�rg Schilling > > Defaults: stereo, 16 bit, 44100.00 Hz, track 1, no offset, one track, > type: wav filename: 'audio', don't wait for signal, not quiet, > use: 'generic_scsi', device: 'yourSCSI_Bus,yourSCSI_ID,yourSCSI_LUN', aux: '' > > Obviously, it is installed. Version 3.00 is better than 2.01 (required), so it should work. But maybe xcdroast isn't just checking binary versions, but also expects some kind of specific library version? At least that kind of requirement should be resolved when you recompile xcdroast _and_ its dependencies. > The "xcdroast" application suddenly cannot > locate it though or is not able to properly determine the version > number. I am thinking of filing a PR against it. If an upgrade of all involved parts doesn't help, this seems to be a good thing to do. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 19:36:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4118A88B for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@freebsd.org) Received: from avocado.salatschuessel.net (avocado.salatschuessel.net [78.111.72.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899F52708 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 68856 invoked by uid 80); 30 Jul 2013 19:29:26 -0000 Received: from dsdf-4db52ab1.pool.mediaWays.net (dsdf-4db52ab1.pool.mediaWays.net [77.181.42.177]) by avocado.salatschuessel.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:29:26 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:29:26 +0200 Message-ID: <20130730212926.Horde.JlSdU59giywMRYNleNFPwA1@avocado.salatschuessel.net> From: Oliver Lehmann To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav References: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.1.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:36:10 -0000 Hi Jerry, cdrtools should be installed on your system. Please verify this with pkg_in= fo. cdda2wav should then be installed in /usr/local/bin/cdda2wav Please=20=20 check=20this. Greetings, Oliver Jerry wrote: > The "xcdroast" application use to work, but lately it has started to > throw an error message. First, it would not let me start it unless I was > "root". I had long ago done the reacquired preliminary start-up as root. > Now, when I attempt to start it as root, it emits this error message: > > ~ # xcdroast > > ** (xcdroast:96970): WARNING **: Invalid cdda2wav version -unknown- found= . > Expecting at least version 2.01 > Start xcdroast with the -n option to override (not recommended!) > ~ # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/xcdroast > > I have tried deleting the port and rebuilding it, but the same problem > exists. I have not been able to locate "cdda2wav" on the system or in a > port. > > -- > Jerry =E2=99=94 > >=20Disclaimer:=20off-list=20followups=20get=20on-list=20replies=20or=20get= =20ignored. >=20Please=20do=20not=20ignore=20the=20Reply-To=20header. >=20__________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 30 19:48:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F322E39 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gh0-x22e.google.com (mail-gh0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5239279A for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gh0-f174.google.com with SMTP id r17so2276361ghr.19 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:48:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Nig12fIcsCSiktEPfvNT6tduc8KbgF3PyG22defdnQ=; b=QywSKlAXvWSOslxAK7WgW5yyF3sRa2rUe02xxsklBXJgu0GH4Eo6+l7tnqHOO+NHMO 58tuWXZp0+uzHfQ/swmppUlRCWxfo9rBYUugiaeR0ZdH4De4tJMgbD7WrhzobqsEVZAy YA/QqMO64+1aUCOAXVsWaAmJXgAMbdSkbn8YM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=8Nig12fIcsCSiktEPfvNT6tduc8KbgF3PyG22defdnQ=; b=cizKBigt0Av0+qg6bxWbQtcRHNxTGi2B8QBu3O6aYSicLeLJ5RF5cOtaWNgS70bWK5 E7V9t5oighnCVRjmVzfhCpEHH6BjoZLVEgrTHzFn444Y5AlnJS+/NIeRnX5AP/NEYCAR R143eAH5SuXIsqP5yaUAjhTm1a8OV7S4Q4EMnd1LPiIgsobbOubCL7l0Ycb96cWcxZPZ EEfNXKkyMensLmaqFwSNxX4m0QwkAJDNY7qxcDv59WJlCwOmSESalakVGzC8UnyHHWuK 9d+/JayHdudvkxSjpK9gmk1yCEEK0KEHPd9kppz8b+smQgzBafseF9370u+oWSmvnEBF BQFg== X-Received: by 10.236.138.195 with SMTP id a43mr30323416yhj.61.1375213724854; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b48sm93451614yhc.8.2013.07.30.12.48.43 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3c4Sxk5Vlqz2CG5c for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:48:42 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav Message-ID: <20130730154842.7bd1c1cd@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130730212926.Horde.JlSdU59giywMRYNleNFPwA1@avocado.salatschuessel.net> References: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> <20130730212926.Horde.JlSdU59giywMRYNleNFPwA1@avocado.salatschuessel.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmapTUaPgLUaHMP0au0PJhMeDquR4CDDWlybrbvC1VtndXwpeU6X6dYDhYpw468Fd8w5NRp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:48:46 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:29:26 +0200 Oliver Lehmann articulated: > cdrtools should be installed on your system. Please verify this with > pkg_info. cdda2wav should then be installed > in /usr/local/bin/cdda2wav Please check this. Please don't top post. I all ready posted regarding the installation of cdda2wav. It is there but either xcdroast doesn't find it or more likely, doesn't understand the version correctly. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 31 03:02:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B92DC for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petersontr@aol.com) Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 412C72682 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AE2C870001D47 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 22:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mie003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mie003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.104.131]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 56FF3E000085 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 22:56:32 -0400 (EDT) References: <8D05BAF9AC564D3-A6C-CA64@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> <8D05BB04C1E3633-A6C-CAB7@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Fwd: Glen Peterson from Wisconsin. Some questions In-Reply-To: <8D05BB04C1E3633-A6C-CAB7@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: petersontr@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37938-STANDARD Received: from 108.68.84.71 by webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.27) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 22:56:31 -0400 Message-Id: <8D05BB0B1E35F93-A6C-CAD9@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [108.68.84.71] Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 22:56:32 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1375239392; bh=rx4NynArov0d58oDyHUjbE0iBmQuxSG4YUYhr+pmXk0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PA4b7n1RW+a9RrhDWYqWVgJUuTEvOluBD3IjiZLSST08cS93b62i1Urbu7aLGOYUO 2X2eNqkqF48+FtmN0fTQfocqd0c//IR215/75XOaEhOztZvSG732KJj1bLk72uzHEe 2hsn4zwWIDZCPucZqnlaLo0SrEslM6T1slpHuQaE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c51f87ce07bd6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:02:18 -0000 Dear Sir: I have been thinking about installing your FreeBSD onto some of my extra PC= 's that I have laying around, just to see what that Unix OS can do on my PC= . I have a few questions, though, before I order your Install Disk to do th= at. I spoke to your receptionist there on 30 July, and she suggested that I= write to you with my detailed questions before I went ahead an purchased y= our well-recommended OS: 1. I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC with a 32-bit Intel processor in it. It = has 2G's of RAM, and a 250GB hard drive under Windows OS, currently. I use = A.T.&T. as my ISP and I have a DSL line supplied by A.T.& T. May I install = your OS onto an external 80 GB Seagate Barracuda ATA IV Model ST380021A har= d drive, and boot off of that into BSD and have it run on that Dell compute= r? The BIOS Chip seems to support external drives and USB sticks, since I h= ave successfully used the later to boot this PC into Debian Linux. 2. Do you have a version of your free BSD program with a graphical user int= erface (like that seen on Mac's and Windows boxes) that will run on that sa= me Dell Dimension 300, mentioned above? 3. How much does the install CD cost me, including shipping to the Milwauke= e area, for the Free BSD OS that will run on said computer? 4. I have another PC at work that has a 32-bit AMD chip in it with 1GB RAM = and 250 GB under Vista OS, currently. Do you likewise have a version of you= r latest Free BSD that will run on THIS machine in a graphical environment = like that mentioned for the Dell computer above from the same external 80 G= B Seagate hard drive? 5. Does the OS come with an application, like I have observed with some Lin= ux distros, that enables me to get updates as they become available? Does your FreeBSD come with its own browser? If not, may I still connect to= the web by some means to obtain a BSD-compatible browser (e.g., Firefox) t= hat will run on this OS on either of the two computers above? Sincerely, Glen A. 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Some questions From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: petersontr@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:28:44 -0000 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM, wrote: > Dear Sir: > > > I have been thinking about installing your FreeBSD onto some of my extra > PC's that I have laying around, just to see what that Unix OS can do on my > PC. I have a few questions, though, before I order your Install Disk to do > that. I spoke to your receptionist there on 30 July, and she suggested that > I write to you with my detailed questions before I went ahead an purchased > your well-recommended OS: > > > 1. I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC with a 32-bit Intel processor in it. It > has 2G's of RAM, and a 250GB hard drive under Windows OS, currently. I use > A.T.&T. as my ISP and I have a DSL line supplied by A.T.& T. May I install > your OS onto an external 80 GB Seagate Barracuda ATA IV Model ST380021A > hard drive, and boot off of that into BSD and have it run on that Dell > computer? The BIOS Chip seems to support external drives and USB sticks, > since I have successfully used the later to boot this PC into Debian Linux. > > 2. Do you have a version of your free BSD program with a graphical user > interface (like that seen on Mac's and Windows boxes) that will run on that > same Dell Dimension 300, mentioned above? > > 3. How much does the install CD cost me, including shipping to the > Milwaukee area, for the Free BSD OS that will run on said computer? > > 4. I have another PC at work that has a 32-bit AMD chip in it with 1GB RAM > and 250 GB under Vista OS, currently. Do you likewise have a version of > your latest Free BSD that will run on THIS machine in a graphical > environment like that mentioned for the Dell computer above from the same > external 80 GB Seagate hard drive? > > 5. Does the OS come with an application, like I have observed with some > Linux distros, that enables me to get updates as they become available? > > Does your FreeBSD come with its own browser? If not, may I still connect > to the web by some means to obtain a BSD-compatible browser (e.g., Firefox) > that will run on this OS on either of the two computers above? > > Sincerely, > > Glen A. Peterson > Cedarburg, Wisconsin > (262) 780-1856 (W, C.D.T.)but OK to call there) > PetersonTR@aol.com > > > > > > You may find very good and detailed answers in the FreeBSD Handbook : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ and the following page may be utilized as a guide : http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html ( FreeBSD Documentation ) Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 31 03:56:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8BD775 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-x233.google.com (mail-vb0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE38B280F for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x16so214261vbf.10 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:56:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Bj/zCXmnjUP9rTVa/lm3lChDfUsOsWK81wYjFjieQsQ=; b=Yfa6EO3+NVlQZ64n+l5ORhitfXXTTu2WwlygJakjrRLKaMdG/xb3lV5rfPMkXZ7dzx Y0C7HTuYU6kKqorppCcXbhwCYIvQ5W7FmKrCuMfOF5NuxHhTh19Q+Nx9kQIYUGoqNGX7 /oTZSEDTOKegRPZqRjGN8RJl99vtLvrw1A+mLud89Z+gxroYGmigPJpmkJmKabO04Ok3 VTwpvJ2sTHRjOoJVYbvaObWM34QFAHOlvHXKDLQm64pfcrD0Z9yEOPgXgOf9+MXH7bJ8 gnVge15u6Tt1TglM5w1RwbgooQxqRrEzmjSLn0RaHr8bJNsrdvqo0rAnBDtEApaOcMhk vsiw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.66.242 with SMTP id i18mr23191746vdt.3.1375242986863; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.96.78 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:56:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: dhclient and the LiveCD From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:56:28 -0000 hello list, when using the bootonly.iso from the ftp servers... if you drop to a shell, use dhclient to obtain an ipaddress.. well you get one.. but you have no DNS, because I think dhclient can't write to /etc/resolv.conf what is the correct way to fix this? -- Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 31 04:56:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8089EF71 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x230.google.com (mail-ob0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A4D22994 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id uz19so499243obc.21 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:56:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=AOMn3RncpF2PbqwSmVv3nZpnoI1/4LSHT6p2qC8tYwM=; b=d1ywLQSh3b6ca8LgIHZGcKcCL8/0nNK1AU5duFBJEEXeyfekycC8EWDIyC8Pe7ZspJ 0r3Qu55ykUJ42gkl39T9ilfvaah+vmTJnebisXFlq0Im+Izoc0+YNSMvBL2s/J3WJEbO vRLdzjGQForDDDw0qKX+YWo4y4LgpGqVMbDS/cBdALRYGJVXfn0EAYgfVlRJBHWiBB7t DcIKUIf2tQG0D+NyPJp+AdJRg9eIV9pGFY31AxnIfzMIVrYZ7vXUEFo5wSqsYvm1iOGy S2TNzrE118d9l3y2myR1AZtz52fgFGy30bO2aeFOv4BHGXca8NNhclF11izFT9WvBXbX zwDQ== X-Received: by 10.60.37.74 with SMTP id w10mr65453208oej.30.1375246605686; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rr6sm653940oeb.0.2013.07.30.21.56.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: dhclient and the LiveCD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:56:41 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Sam Fourman Jr. X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: freebsd general questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:56:46 -0000 On Jul 30, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > hello list, >=20 > when using the bootonly.iso from the ftp servers... >=20 > if you drop to a shell, use dhclient to obtain an ipaddress.. well you = get > one.. but you have no DNS, because I think dhclient can't write to > /etc/resolv.conf >=20 > what is the correct way to fix this? Well, if its anything like the LiveCD option from there regular full = iso, then you can do 2 things; issue; mkdir /tmp/etc mount_unionfs /tmp/etc /etc * this makes all things done on the fs temporary or issue; mount -rw / * renders anything you write permanent I do either of these during LiveCD sessions depending on my goals. Unsure if this pertains to bootonly.iso but perhaps it helps? I'm also very new to the FreeBSD scene so any one feel free to correct. - aurf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 31 05:40:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D00842 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ADE62AA7 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6V5eCnF027391 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:40:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r6V5eCnF027391 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r6V5eCnF027391; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) Message-ID: <51F8A330.50501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:40:00 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: petersontr@aol.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Glen Peterson from Wisconsin. Some questions References: <8D05BAF9AC564D3-A6C-CA64@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> <8D05BB04C1E3633-A6C-CAB7@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> <8D05BB0B1E35F93-A6C-CAD9@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8D05BB0B1E35F93-A6C-CAD9@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Rokv6xPXpH2MAqJ8RNTvErKWWwfxkqvTC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:40:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Rokv6xPXpH2MAqJ8RNTvErKWWwfxkqvTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31/07/2013 03:56, petersontr@aol.com wrote: > I have been thinking about installing your FreeBSD onto some of my > extra PC's that I have laying around, just to see what that Unix OS > can do on my PC. I have a few questions, though, before I order your > Install Disk to do that. I spoke to your receptionist there on 30 > July, and she suggested that I write to you with my detailed > questions before I went ahead an purchased your well-recommended OS: Receptionist? I don't believe we (FreeBSD) have anything like that. We're not a business; just a bunch of people that write an OS and make it available for anyone to use. Perhaps you spoke to one of the companies that sell FreeBSD derived products? Note that you can simply download FreeBSD CD and USB stick images for free (well, not counting anything you'ld have to pay for bandwidth) -- pre-written CDs come from third parties, but buying them will generally result in some money going to the FreeBSD foundation. > 1. I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC with a 32-bit Intel processor in > it. It has 2G's of RAM, and a 250GB hard drive under Windows OS, > currently. I use A.T.&T. as my ISP and I have a DSL line supplied by > A.T.& T. May I install your OS onto an external 80 GB Seagate > Barracuda ATA IV Model ST380021A hard drive, and boot off of that > into BSD and have it run on that Dell computer? The BIOS Chip seems > to support external drives and USB sticks, since I have successfully > used the later to boot this PC into Debian Linux. Should work fine with FreeBSD. The best way to test for full compatibility is to boot from a USB stick or a live CD before installing on your hard drive. > 2. Do you have a version of your free BSD program with a graphical > user interface (like that seen on Mac's and Windows boxes) that will > run on that same Dell Dimension 300, mentioned above? FreeBSD itself is just the basic operating system without any frills. Graphical environments are certainly available, but they are considered as add-ons and not part of FreeBSD itself. I suggest that instead of FreeBSD itself, you start with PC-BSD (http://www.pcbsd.org/) This is an integrated desktop system with all the graphical bits layered on top of the basic FreeBSD operating system. It's much more like what you'll have see when you tried out Debian, and as it has a nice graphical interface, it tends to be a lot easier for people new to the Unix command line. > 3. How much does the install CD cost me, including shipping to the > Milwaukee area, for the Free BSD OS that will run on said computer? It's free to download. You can buy a boxed set of CDs or a DVD from here= : https://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm Looks like about $30 for CDs, $40 for a DVD. Plus shipping nd handling and the usual taxes. > 4. I have another PC at work that has a 32-bit AMD chip in it with > 1GB RAM and 250 GB under Vista OS, currently. Do you likewise have a > version of your latest Free BSD that will run on THIS machine in a > graphical environment like that mentioned for the Dell computer above > from the same external 80 GB Seagate hard drive? Yes, FreeBSD has versions for both the i386 (Intel 32 bit) and amd64 (64 bit) architectures. Note that you'ld use amd64 for any 64bit capable intel type CPU, including ones from Intel specifically and not just ones from AMD. > 5. Does the OS come with an application, like I have observed with > some Linux distros, that enables me to get updates as they become > available? Yes, in fact there are several different ways of doing this. If you try out PC-BSD as I suggest, it has built-in update mechanisms which will allow you to update from the net. > Does your FreeBSD come with its own browser? If not, may I still > connect to the web by some means to obtain a BSD-compatible browser > (e.g., Firefox) that will run on this OS on either of the two > computers above? FireFox and Chrome and a number of other web browsers certainly are available either as native FreeBSD applications, or by running the Linux applications under emulation. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Some questions From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: petersontr@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:49:43 -0000 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM, wrote: > Dear Sir: > > > I have been thinking about installing your FreeBSD onto some of my extra > PC's that I have laying around, just to see what that Unix OS can do on my > PC. I have a few questions, though, before I order your Install Disk to do > that. I spoke to your receptionist there on 30 July, and she suggested that > I write to you with my detailed questions before I went ahead an purchased > your well-recommended OS: > > > 1. I have a Dell Dimension 3000 PC with a 32-bit Intel processor in it. It > has 2G's of RAM, and a 250GB hard drive under Windows OS, currently. I use > A.T.&T. as my ISP and I have a DSL line supplied by A.T.& T. May I install > your OS onto an external 80 GB Seagate Barracuda ATA IV Model ST380021A > hard drive, and boot off of that into BSD and have it run on that Dell > computer? The BIOS Chip seems to support external drives and USB sticks, > since I have successfully used the later to boot this PC into Debian Linux. > > 2. Do you have a version of your free BSD program with a graphical user > interface (like that seen on Mac's and Windows boxes) that will run on that > same Dell Dimension 300, mentioned above? > > 3. How much does the install CD cost me, including shipping to the > Milwaukee area, for the Free BSD OS that will run on said computer? > > 4. I have another PC at work that has a 32-bit AMD chip in it with 1GB RAM > and 250 GB under Vista OS, currently. Do you likewise have a version of > your latest Free BSD that will run on THIS machine in a graphical > environment like that mentioned for the Dell computer above from the same > external 80 GB Seagate hard drive? > > 5. Does the OS come with an application, like I have observed with some > Linux distros, that enables me to get updates as they become available? > > Does your FreeBSD come with its own browser? If not, may I still connect > to the web by some means to obtain a BSD-compatible browser (e.g., Firefox) > that will run on this OS on either of the two computers above? > > Sincerely, > > Glen A. Peterson > Cedarburg, Wisconsin > (262) 780-1856 (W, C.D.T.)but OK to call there) > PetersonTR@aol.com > > Glen, First of all, FreeBSD is well FREE.. you don't need to purchase it, but you can donate to the FreeBSD foundation[2] a user friendly version of FreeBSD is available, it is named PC-BSD, they have dropped support for 32bit processors but you can still obtain old versions with 32bit support [3] you should note however, that unlike in the Linux world, PC-BSD is not a fork persay, it is plain vanilla FreeBSD under the hood, its just simply packaged in a way that makes it easy to "use" While The FreeBSD handbook is a great source of information, and everything you find there will apply to PC-BSD as well, there is a book that is very well written The Definitive Guide to PC-BSD [4] PCBSD provides updates via a graphical user interface, and they very closely track FreeBSD.. but as I stated earlier, while FreeBSD still actively supports the 32bit platform, PC-BSD has decided not to. on a side note, I am also from Wisconsin, feel free to contact me via gmail chat sfourman@gmail.com, I will assist you in anyway I can Have a Great Day, Sam Fourman Jr. [1] ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/9.1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso [2]http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/ [3]ftp://ftp.pcbsd.org/pub/archived/8.2/i386/ [4]https://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/pcbsdguide?id=MhtF3J72&mv_pc=194 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 31 10:49:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B71DEDB for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qc0-x22f.google.com (mail-qc0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD6942A82 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id s11so264210qcv.6 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:49:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=58MOXKzQnHv15ZDx6EzgUn2tpUpePfX0jCxAmeIxRtk=; b=KZuW49jz/SImf8C9JuWnY7dqGFn0Pg5da0GLO4Lvm7juZpRy4yPcuFocWfCqxDmXgk keXJxlrqjh2H45oMS55vRiYrqgIWbEUgWlJiuAmvIcUdPAksaCBfVmmfaoHW924kUSIx es0UvgZ4SFLEiMeEu11thTtAxkoZki+fE5S/8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=58MOXKzQnHv15ZDx6EzgUn2tpUpePfX0jCxAmeIxRtk=; b=IM/w8a8eqbBudr0IMhCSvKGyTd4775++sF7RHIsxo8KwAqkbWwJpErCn44cJQpRPNS 4K+a06qsQjXV0BlZfq5U/t/zbHQj9ywnIvh+JquOFPjG38yc5V6dLS+iGG9ti51uWdk7 uBA/8aREHTobaN6ALPq6j6ckDnKmURPlivdl8hbtcQcukMXmNN/wmLxRuM3+pogxCt5c 1osNfUubaFKPfLlrNNoUIxon4EDZIN9L0L/z+tyFuK+un0O3fiWtrflds6JGfrNh5kZP XzdJEc61MVAfbYUv1Fzj6QNXO6NOQhnkO9J4FF46uTo2TNw3UJSkTrEU7wKEZnmcnzw6 DqpQ== X-Received: by 10.224.53.196 with SMTP id n4mr23585329qag.104.1375267745351; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a4sm4136141qai.3.2013.07.31.03.49.04 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3c4rwZ5nbZz2CG5c; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:49:02 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: xcdroast cannot locate cdda2wav Message-ID: <20130731064902.317026de@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130730202658.03abf2de.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130730082947.757d4a4b@scorpio> <20130730143738.643616e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130730103637.1449800c@scorpio> <20130730202658.03abf2de.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmKzbUlIMThW3EYdcefvayNLwop0d9qxScfEg72pWuF+VWbRLosN01P32TVwSy4HdTg2iEl Cc: oliver@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:49:07 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:26:58 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > Version 3.00 is better than 2.01 (required), so it should work. Whether "3.00" is better than "2.01" is debatable. However, the fact that it definitely superseded it is not. The application's web site lists a patch for this problem. . I don't believe it has been incorporated into the application's port, nor do I know if it will even work on FreeBSD. In any case, the port maintain has been made aware of it. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 31 13:28:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126EED3E for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 842EE21F2 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6VDSWO0088520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:28:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51F91101.4080301@fjl.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:28:33 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System hangs for several minutes (disk IO related) References: <20130730171938.GA3602@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20130730171938.GA3602@aurora.oekb.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:28:42 -0000 I don't know what kind of answer you're expecting unless its for moral support or the obvious. I was thinking of buying one of these as they're very cheap at the moment, but decided against it due to compatibility problems reported. IIRC something in it was supported up to FreeBSD 7.2 - the NIC I think. If you get it working I'd be interested myself! I think they were commonly used for VMWare but won't run version 4.0 onwards, and are therefore as desirable to that fraternity as a dead camel in reception. However, I did once get the same symptoms you're reporting, and it turned out to be a HD that was on the way out even though it pretended it was fine on every test. I think it was just very slow to respond on a write. If the RAID is struggling to do a write I assume you'd see the same thing. If I were in your place I'd try to attach a SATA drive directly - does it have a SATA optical drive connection you could pinch? Regards, Frank. On 30/07/2013 18:19, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm seeing rather strange behavior on an HP DL585 G5 wrt. disk IO: > > When there's any disk io the machine completely freezes, i.e. no > console input possible, no screen output - complete hang. After some > minutes the box comes back to normal again - but sure enough with the > next disk io it freezes again. > > To give you a typical example: While a "portsnap fetch extract" was > running I did a "sync". Normally this should complete in a matter of > milliseconds to seconds in the worst case - but dig this: > > # date;time sync;date > Tue Jul 30 09:57:38 CEST 2013 > 0.000u 0.311s 9:54.69 0.0% 4+161k 0+1287io 0pf+0w > Tue Jul 30 10:07:38 CEST 2013 > # > > No, this is not a typo - it really took nearly ten minutes (!) for the > sync to complete. In the meantime - every windows, all activity > (console, screen-output etc.) is completely blocked. ('portsnap fetch > extract' was only given as an example here - the lockup occurs > whenever there is disk io like for example tar, etc). > > We're speaking about a machine with decent hardware here, here's an > excerpt from "dmesg": > > ------------------------------ < Cut here > ------------------------------ > > FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253750: Mon Jul 29 11:07:04 CEST 2013 > root@sniff-rz2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] > CPU: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8358 SE (2411.16-MHz K8-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x100f23 Family = 0x10 Model = 0x2 Stepping = 3 > Features=0x178bfbff > Features2=0x802009 > AMD Features=0xee400800 > AMD Features2=0x7ff > TSC: P-state invariant > real memory = 137438953472 (131072 MB) > avail memory = 132973432832 (126813 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 16 CPUs > ... > ciss0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xd9e00000-0xd9efffff,0xd9df0000-0xd9df0fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci8 > ciss0: PERFORMANT Transport > ... > da0 at ciss0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device > da0: 135.168MB/s transfers > da0: Command Queueing enabled > da0: 139979MB (286677120 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 35132C) > da0: quirks=0x1 > > ------------------------------ < Cut here > ------------------------------ > > Kernel: Latest kernel as of yesterday (9.2Beta) > > BIOS: is at the latest level (Support pack as of Spring 2013) > installed which updated BIOS, iLO etc. Aside from that I reset BIOS to > default values just to be sure. > > SmartArray P400 - Firmware 7.24 (latest) > > Harddisks: Two 146GB HDs running in Raid1-mode. Already tried > hot-swapping the disks - didn't change anything. > > Needless to say - no error message etc. in neither dmesg nor > /var/log/messages :-( > > To me it looks like this is some sort of timing problem - but where > should I start looking? > > Thanks much in advance for any help, > -ewald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 31 13:41:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850052B9 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A44522B8 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359A520BD1 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:41:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=pUEEP8z1a3/LWmW6XJMPuH1aPkM=; b=CuKS8 c3cCH5CcTdDlqL9LX5U+LBGfZSLKRdNLvmijdqyxQvZuBDK26ykSVZZEYgzJnApI GzmROoaXSUL1mLn9u77bywndHSVp2mpxd7VDVB05ozZcQSPF9OPLBHoJL/hj9rQa 1mBGS9jkaZmOGBZCgWwan0R0dH9CTxWLD0y9os= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id F4004B01F7E; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1375278114.15234.3692179.76D31AF7@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: NxnsJerIJ34TY4AFNG+tdY2MvDepVcQgde+lYR1BUlJa 1375278114 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9e4be734 Subject: Re: System hangs for several minutes (disk IO related) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:41:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <51F91101.4080301@fjl.co.uk> References: <20130730171938.GA3602@aurora.oekb.co.at> <51F91101.4080301@fjl.co.uk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:41:56 -0000 If you Google SmartArray P400 I'm sure you will find tons of horror stories. As soon as I saw that in your post I recalled looking into an issue for a customer not too long ago. In short, it's a very bad controller with tons of issues. I could be mistaking this for another controller, but I'm pretty confident this is the same one. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 03:15:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C0AB4C for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 03:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone-freebsdquestions@tridentusa.com) Received: from mail.tridentusa.com (mail.tridentusa.com [173.15.185.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75A1D2463 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 03:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54605 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2013 23:08:51 -0400 Received: from pool-173-54-0-191.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net (HELO new-host-3.home) (jjohnstone@tridentusa.com@173.54.0.191) by mail.tridentusa.com with CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 31 Jul 2013 23:08:51 -0400 Message-ID: <51F9D143.1040504@tridentusa.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:08:51 -0400 From: John Johnstone User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: System hangs for several minutes (disk IO related) References: <20130730171938.GA3602@aurora.oekb.co.at> <51F91101.4080301@fjl.co.uk> <1375278114.15234.3692179.76D31AF7@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1375278114.15234.3692179.76D31AF7@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:15:36 -0000 On 7/31/13 9:41 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > If you Google SmartArray P400 I'm sure you will find tons of horror > stories. As soon as I saw that in your post I recalled looking into an > issue for a customer not too long ago. In short, it's a very bad > controller with tons of issues. I could be mistaking this for another > controller, but I'm pretty confident this is the same one. FreeBSD 9.1 is running here on a few DL360 G5's with the P400i and I've seen no problems with them. I've seen about 200 of the same machines in production for a few years with Windows and Linux and not a particularly notable failure rate. I just did a simple web search for P400 problems and didn't come up with much. I'd be surprised if there's a significant difference between the P400i and the P400. - John J. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 05:38:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB480207 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wheelie207@ownmail.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C78329F9 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D12D21179 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 01:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 01:38:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ownmail.net; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=mesmtp; bh=5UJLztkRK+EOQ8f4NxxYW99 rnms=; b=GrYx0JU89009GHtFBY0RPrIIx0StrO4zNVUV6Wu/kXoW4kf5XcZmRed 5aC/nINTpUsweNB8/GKIlYJFQucruTmesP8AzWLdNZU+oJA+VmCkHHh5peB63zSt LRKILTZe4SiXan2HfXKoWycSSIxpCwlIW/SiuWn3ZrTWpUiPHvK8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=5 UJLztkRK+EOQ8f4NxxYW99rnms=; b=giz5bbTlHSiGXLEEb+SKrCmV3LPZ1xye3 CdSjGcsGQMteCj1pKC1miL7YJVR4mTCPbR/b1woNZYGa2A092GTmF7tzWPZMbR95 UUG+FQ7cb40pQQCozaXMIBUcvHsAlRbUA9Kby0gHb2VdZ2WOdwI8qOYxmjnXV1wX O9F/XToSo0= X-Sasl-enc: omBs7Ph7R66/8+2z645nMAtxwShPk3meejln3Dc38KbO 1375335529 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [68.226.125.146]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D3CEE6800C2 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 01:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51F9F46A.6030405@ownmail.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:38:50 -0700 From: Harold Hartley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: change the settings for the xorg. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130730-1, 07/30/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:38:51 -0000 I haven't used Freebsd in such a long time that I'm now trying to setup for the graphical screen. When I type "startx" xorg starts and xterm shows up and freezes. I want to be able to use gnome, but I can't quite remember the directory structure to the files I need to edit. The last time I played around with Freebsd was after the second release, so its been a while for me. Can someone help me with where the files are that I need to edit so xorg and gnome will come up when I start the system. Thanks Harold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 06:18:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927A2F69 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 579ED2B5C for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V4mDZ-0004ey-6L; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 08:18:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:18:33 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Harold Hartley Subject: Re: change the settings for the xorg. Message-ID: <20130801061832.GA17760@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <51F9F46A.6030405@ownmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <51F9F46A.6030405@ownmail.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:18:43 -0000 El día Wednesday, July 31, 2013 a las 10:38:50PM -0700, Harold Hartley escribió: > I haven't used Freebsd in such a long time that I'm now trying to setup > for the graphical screen. > When I type "startx" xorg starts and xterm shows up and freezes. I want > to be able to use gnome, but I can't quite remember the directory > structure to the files I need to edit. > > The last time I played around with Freebsd was after the second release, > so its been a while for me. > > Can someone help me with where the files are that I need to edit so xorg > and gnome will come up when I start the system. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 07:07:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002D14F9 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wheelie207@ownmail.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C45792D5A for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC4F2069B; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 03:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:07:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ownmail.net; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mesmtp; bh=IQETYjPFEzCmKtuDH3XWEdfeh60=; b=LuUQq9FN21e5HE/hHF/hX7eLjw/T AFMg7hM+p4k/KXlZJ5Ep6xRElj4ieHWPsoC2CKGB0Cb/RHIYvQsSVf/e7t9na6AM jZg/7PEXYvo9+2rt7se114lnakCbVXIvhaHVmVfqMyVAMqAu6CPZ2nOOtlELSNgl j+GOAIkrN5V1IoY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=IQETYjPFEzCmKtuDH3XWEd feh60=; b=fIeJlU/TWmNXu5qeUyG0WK/6R5DMGMYB7aC4Dpr9hM52mNikmmgkTY vctFMO/8Ouso1msjY3sJhRmqDzKUwMbptZxm0lAGzfbU0G0Lw+FNpN1ztfA5vPlP dgnPrtb2AReXRBxIqFcq/F070lh+UdFOEsKZv9JaDVR7N2BUu4Jc8= X-Sasl-enc: i9qUb/HrUZgjScusm9G0brhETwVnRtBSEP5B0420kRt9 1375340840 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [68.226.125.146]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7F542C00E8F; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 03:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51FA0929.5080901@ownmail.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 00:07:21 -0700 From: Harold Hartley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: change the settings for the xorg. References: <51F9F46A.6030405@ownmail.net> <20130801061832.GA17760@sh4-5.1blu.de> In-Reply-To: <20130801061832.GA17760@sh4-5.1blu.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130731-1, 07/31/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 07:07:23 -0000 On 7/31/2013 11:18 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Wednesday, July 31, 2013 a las 10:38:50PM -0700, Harold Hartley escribió: > >> I haven't used Freebsd in such a long time that I'm now trying to setup >> for the graphical screen. >> When I type "startx" xorg starts and xterm shows up and freezes. I want >> to be able to use gnome, but I can't quite remember the directory >> structure to the files I need to edit. >> >> The last time I played around with Freebsd was after the second release, >> so its been a while for me. >> >> Can someone help me with where the files are that I need to edit so xorg >> and gnome will come up when I start the system. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html > > matthias Thanks, I'm up and running. Harold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 09:46:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C8EBDC for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ramyalexis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22a.google.com (mail-oa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A408625F5 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so3921402oag.29 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X66uUHbw0Hx3i4su+AcSRBqzBQFhN6pmi+2s/r3aB/M=; b=s42pJQbUm4T3et9w3Zjd0Z2bM+haNeyFmJk1le7znGxnzHPf8pIBKKboxC2N3HnkGK 7O8ADRQAHnMx2hMmltkMII/2ivSIGFl+PmYyo3aWCscwboWs4IKC2lDjqPtCHCwogM5w 8mYbcWDUyR9j9zStzQ7C49z6tH9GqkwRhjIi1RGIJOM07h7UN5VCO8NwpmZM2uW63rtt X0MHC0K64S6jlWXqLg76kxINtME1Q/gzvCjieeej73U2AEnwXL5SU2OA6yqEpHji5FRI EZTWwaMWuns0YFn0q23ETGfuimYRjR3OHCRiNcnSk+zLPZ0zkbYWqMpgR8C24/gRkJto d3gw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.77.70 with SMTP id q6mr442608oew.98.1375350394991; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 02:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.47.234 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 02:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:46:34 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Freebsd SVN From: Alexey Smirnov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:46:36 -0000 Hello community. I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux machine using svn. Here is error i got during this proccess. ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 10:03:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D24336 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08D2126B1 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r71A3C2W090816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:03:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r71A3B0K090813; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:03:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:03:11 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Alexey Smirnov Subject: Re: Freebsd SVN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-1007202728-1375351392=:90799" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:03:17 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-1007202728-1375351392=:90799 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:46+0400, Alexey Smirnov wrote: > Hello community. > I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux > machine using svn. > Here is error i got during this proccess. > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) > > So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. > Thank you. Try one of these: svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base freebsd-all svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/head freebsd-head svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/8 freebsd-stable-8 svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 freebsd-stable-9 For the ports collection, use only(!): svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/ports/head freebsd-ports BTW, it's nice to know there's an European svn mirror. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-1007202728-1375351392=:90799-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 10:09:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF01387A for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulriksaa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22b.google.com (mail-oa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A4442727 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id i10so3904698oag.16 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:09:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pZLNza5ajQK6hJXSAIqkPcZtAUJ1pZVuplJpLFRBfic=; b=tCLTUQkPzxAEETiw/7ryM2Gg4FafppbVbeZRCvkjd36e673fARC/OaNFleqwAnbieC cdw+B+NlNEOokHjbj4rQUQhlsGXrKPtz5XpgX3qvcRxgwjSd/7mQYd6CY/bZb98Dw3zY PrZdMhIuOxB1rJGs0bsNdLDoS3M0LGlXRjyzC0qVzYUkZKZvPYRQ3zn6EdRWjM/0Ly96 +81MgSfw+jCs9PSbR7JuXJUtDNNg5VGVHJ6S8UKS+qw0iac+oXeW7I3H15pkvlETqW82 xKgD/FKYM/NV9uY1rkhSFAYWp/9GFR9fJoAIxlLbpTFCCzVIpMSu3R13Xsub6VbVku3n eBpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.50.210 with SMTP id e18mr106898igo.9.1375351748890; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.224.243 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 03:09:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:09:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Freebsd SVN From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrik_S=F8gaard?= To: Alexey Smirnov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:09:09 -0000 On 1 August 2013 11:46, Alexey Smirnov wrote: > Hello community. > I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux > machine using svn. > Here is error i got during this proccess. > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) > > So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. > Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Make sure you have compiled SVN with SSL support, if you are going to use the https mirrors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 10:11:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9381A1A for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ramyalexis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x235.google.com (mail-ob0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 822E82753 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id dn14so3353864obc.26 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:11:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ThPtjDcRHWMf2Ih5BVADFRpMbs3YdxYXkd2n7gV702w=; b=ojPqntUpN/tPk42RHESaManop5IZ9S7MqExaD0LWhUwCzkFi0XNYy9OcGL3qS7MqTh 70GzTPG6tQTW7BpRve0TJzXC4lKcOXb4yIfB5bC9tQ5umx3XxHIhNzWsnrDZFDk+DDX9 39sHl9HTdHg/KLgppVO3L74OCSMql2hohEKAaeajl7By6DyK1memP8f8/7DUfk8oXERh MZk1Deb8K7URgTZ+vm7ea+fjmO3DOIr9NcljOwwQSnzo554srJkc6VTzu7amO9A6rxca IYxQYMql+FnELipa440ui+bIMBq9yycSpxeivG8DLUEpjFKT1Lj7tHJ/vOn/ktF/Htcz WJdA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.123.10 with SMTP id lw10mr509413oeb.102.1375351913694; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.47.234 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 03:11:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:11:53 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Freebsd SVN From: Alexey Smirnov To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:11:54 -0000 Thank you for the quick answer. The addition of /base helps a lot ) Have a nice day, 2013/8/1 Trond Endrest=F8l > On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:46+0400, Alexey Smirnov wrote: > > > Hello community. > > I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux > > machine using svn. > > Here is error i got during this proccess. > > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd > > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > > https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' > > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: > XML > > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > > (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) > > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd > > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > > https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' > > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: > XML > > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > > (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) > > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd > > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > > https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' > > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: > XML > > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > > (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) > > > > So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. > > Thank you. > > Try one of these: > > svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base freebsd-all > svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/head freebsd-head > svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/8 freebsd-stable-8 > svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 freebsd-stable-9 > > For the ports collection, use only(!): > > svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/ports/head freebsd-ports > > BTW, it's nice to know there's an European svn mirror. > > -- > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | > | Trond Endrest=F8l, | Trond Endrest=F8l, = | > | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | > | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gj=F8vik Technical College, Norway, | > | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | > | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 10:48:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF3C9B4 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:48:31 -0000 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alexey Smirnov wrote: > Hello community. > I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux > machine using svn. > Here is error i got during this proccess. > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) > ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd > svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' > https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' > svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML > parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document > (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) > > So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. > Thank you. > Hi Alexey, There is an option to set before building the subversion application (# make config). In the FreeBSD port "devel/subversion" this option is called "SERF - WebDAV/Delta-V (HTTP/HTTPS) repo access module". I think the option is similar on youtr Linux system. Kind regards, Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 10:50:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B27AB0 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ramyalexis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CBD42971 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id f8so3517457obp.36 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:50:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=seEhvNUHegZU3XPuLM+vjE/TbUL8wWHMA5JEZVlg2Rk=; b=l/KE9ay6ygIPq+Xuz/3mbS87iRf7N8wgYcSUgEv2q5S50HttqyUw4VvdSG2n70VArm RVfDgqm2z0DYrLimRf2LVPYXjTVM8zrfCf5vsBm0rxmsbVOcK4FnzOPwtFIrCbAwUOQx 3pFr8/MPlKulJ+FBhm3hHLJJjjjVIbET5Z7Qk6W2QBLC943xkQuvIWpPikFxc/6dHQh7 p9QwL86/lM6S80Hp75y3UVZJmAsedSplbyEuFQmYWTmth4eBYVDw4D1zc9slLWI3xFl9 PltM7kNlnZ6sk3FbGx6aalHh5pSg2UkLX4FO5tnfPyum4tCfv9ewOwYcTHGgEnN5Gkr1 9wbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.123.10 with SMTP id lw10mr619728oeb.102.1375354231956; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.47.234 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 03:50:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:50:31 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Freebsd SVN From: Alexey Smirnov To: Alexandre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:50:33 -0000 Thank you. I already got the answer and evrything is ok now. 2013/8/1 Alexandre > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alexey Smirnov wrote: > >> Hello community. >> I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux >> machine using svn. >> Here is error i got during this proccess. >> ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd >> svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' >> https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' >> svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: >> XML >> parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document >> (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) >> ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd >> svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' >> https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' >> svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: >> XML >> parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document >> (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) >> ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd >> svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' >> https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' >> svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: >> XML >> parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document >> (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) >> >> So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. >> Thank you. >> > Hi Alexey, > There is an option to set before building the subversion application (# > make config). In the FreeBSD port "devel/subversion" this option is called > "SERF - WebDAV/Delta-V (HTTP/HTTPS) repo access module". > I think the option is similar on youtr Linux system. > > Kind regards, > Alexandre > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 10:58:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC28E61 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qe0-x230.google.com (mail-qe0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5943829F7 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 9so1004144qea.7 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:58:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h2rRksrZ15CYCh5IST1AIO/C3oMHOHjmV9dT4MNYHOc=; b=RLQXPKib4sq2a2S3HBM+Z880RKwYq0Yf3bO2uj2+7nE//20iDREBMq7SLVUNMtqlrE EqpIe/1JIYfblCvAJfmlYuWhvxEfjU4bj7kHK270ZWycwrTdMlsa7FZ2T6uyS4b6Baft 2tALAPeWMRv4A/uz2Zx1dCbWJ36oZ+ub0kQ9Y= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=h2rRksrZ15CYCh5IST1AIO/C3oMHOHjmV9dT4MNYHOc=; b=fU9+9UlMohNT+0z9IEKyT390dZLmpEVsNWMN9oYjvOgKxd24Egrvs2m9kIK174giec HKv3bqYzYe0MvzOXUz5ASzu3ABUQIjgWhktT8ODETBfITF9KN+vYaY88qMklPNjJPZfj iOnZaI1w7qokTU84fvwiPTaWGXXO5CewLHjfEd7j6EHzOl7/hdZp1Lx93xhLK4fNvWlx 2ZSRhiQumJui2/BYE/IdKK4qO+y0ppxs7npskTeSIzAM285RfLXjLDVajhsK0R6ssf8t 14G0YQsBA2tzx2LrgUKn30nnGj+XSoqpOjwX6kXGJKTIlgr8GaeszOJdKGcNSUc/OqB/ timw== X-Received: by 10.49.59.69 with SMTP id x5mr1220005qeq.18.1375354683387; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n8sm3545515qez.2.2013.08.01.03.58.02 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3c5T4T50YPz2CG5j for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:58:01 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Unable to access http://sane-project.org/ Message-ID: <20130801065801.20ddc6e1@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl5u2Lsk63Ko9ViBZ5c1vv1v0GKgAGm3FORfm5m7Tyx3lPcM4BDxAx/ggIv5nAOgwDsEL72 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:58:04 -0000 Not really a FreeBSD problem; however, I was wondering if anyone else had been unable to access http://sane-project.org/ in the last 24 hours? -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 11:08:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5632B3E3 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9D822ABC for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r71B8ooc091513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:08:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r71B8oZu091510 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:08:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:08:50 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Unable to access http://sane-project.org/ In-Reply-To: <20130801065801.20ddc6e1@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <20130801065801.20ddc6e1@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 11:08:55 -0000 On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:58-0400, Jerry wrote: > Not really a FreeBSD problem; however, I was wondering if anyone else > had been unable to access http://sane-project.org/ in the last 24 hours? Confirmed inaccessible at work, both when URL was fed directly to my web browser and through the use of http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://sane-project.org/ Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 11:23:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734CC70D for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67E12B5E for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id 7PLY1m006516WCc01PLZPX; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:20:33 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=CY8xutbl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=jiGpkB-TUlEA:10 a=JqvD7zFePrwA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=E7ZWe5byhpIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=Il9BW7sNAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=Q-o0ixv-jXkA:10 a=wNc8_hspAAAA:8 a=UakhHTNLbxlI-KJrF8EA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Bwa7kpMJUjMA:10 a=BSsQVG2OKEgA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1V4qvl-0007sy-Rp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:20:32 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:20:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20130801065801.20ddc6e1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130801065801.20ddc6e1@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201308011220.28706.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: Unable to access http://sane-project.org/ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 11:23:43 -0000 On Thursday 01 Aug 2013 11:58:01 Jerry wrote: > Not really a FreeBSD problem; however, I was wondering if anyone else > had been unable to access http://sane-project.org/ in the last 24 hours? http://www.isup.me/ is a useful site for instantly checking this sort of thing. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 11:36:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAD5BB7 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teymur.rahimzade@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-x22c.google.com (mail-ea0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F224C2C00 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r16so951748ead.31 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:36:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=GFBUQN68ozqMwMr6asAcB3TorSsSi9lpDKTHhE3OBFo=; b=UAy7Pk3xuUlVDfRdQVzwzq/fmgh8wMoy2kTZAPkwxMP3MxSmWk/HIRwsK6/lvhdxq+ InTOROd9v1a+6r/JjV3neIq1dHHkwquyZCLYp3VqjRFLWyhAiVTo2VH9bNJQ325ucTEF KAN8Xs3IAbOlB0Et83HF7TNiUsZjcsht4LoRo2brTqgUI3RAJTeDogHjCpDY5jwhFlDJ e5bYi42CAp6c+CbuUHGQjdaefuoemofoiQElxqtQCW/krUzOA2NnzRSPOtss0qOGXVQ8 TbcfnKLbzCIWRlZR0msXh8FE4Jh62PwjmfARHiNTj5tvN3mmWXcn7iQy/mPM90XkL4NO G5vA== X-Received: by 10.15.53.196 with SMTP id r44mr1184303eew.9.1375356962342; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Dell255PC ([31.170.232.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j2sm3678661eep.6.2013.08.01.04.36.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:36:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Teymur.Rahimzade" To: Subject: learn Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:35:57 +0500 Message-ID: <002b01ce8eab$4b41fa50$e1c5eef0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: Ac6Oq0B829XXzjzjSSKEd8eLTfJkMw== Content-Language: en-gb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 11:36:05 -0000 Hi. Please help me to learn freebsd unix. Many thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 11:41:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE16D1C for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corebug@corebug.net) Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78EBB2C3F for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id xn12so3537464obc.6 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:41:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=vWo/dhH0t9pby36wNLFjb9jQJd/cyQ3JbxzJ1fUxY1s=; b=VNTfefVJa5SPqgYtMt6nH9NcNFRYOIfj2aQY/d9Nhq9T+TgBts7YJw8l7gGElLRDDw VLtqepolvcxmn/OPj3/NOrdRD8CpY9zZ4hXrniWnUG9aXetoE2+kH7pzV6hci/YX3HYw yoZcazaPyxYnlYW5cXM4JvX3K9b/wz4Jso3HbhWKL+6bM8beqLo6JNGvy7ritFq7pxpx 2q+ilLeY2hMZRZnbfoAQ2REjAxpRhcoGutHYC0Qs7pz7om02qoLCsc+BZo11OE4HmVp6 NM6nDWnCWZUghJCQWTEs9NNhQrc/td0T4RQM/Yj41n/zsz6ridFsiIyD0iojUTelFAS5 uZkg== X-Received: by 10.60.63.33 with SMTP id d1mr752628oes.103.1375357287797; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:41:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.94.133 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 04:41:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [176.113.162.12] In-Reply-To: <002b01ce8eab$4b41fa50$e1c5eef0$@gmail.com> References: <002b01ce8eab$4b41fa50$e1c5eef0$@gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:41:07 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: learn To: "Teymur.Rahimzade" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlGl8Iq42gd/VEj+4BqAw/UlPgOKvay23EeOMOHEArxMD9+6M4dBKuXJFfdz/f807cUAVsw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 11:41:35 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ This should help a lot for sure :) 2013/8/1 Teymur.Rahimzade > Hi. > > Please help me to learn freebsd unix. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets NOC Lead @TV-Net ISP +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 12:38:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49287389 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w3@langhans.com.pl) Received: from langhans.com.pl (host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl [194.126.238.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9312F71 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by langhans.com.pl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A7EA957B0BB8; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: learn Message-ID: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:38:12 -0000 The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost there. You know that, corebug. I usually recommend the owl: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596002619.do Cheers herb langhans Message: 19 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:41:07 +0300 From: ??????? ??????? To: "Teymur.Rahimzade" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: learn Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ This should help a lot for sure :) 2013/8/1 Teymur.Rahimzade > Hi. > Please help me to learn freebsd unix. > Many thanks. -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau office [at]langhans.com.pl http://www.langhans.com.pl +0048 603 341 441 | jabber:herbert.raimund | yahoo_im:herbert.raimund | icq:414500866 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 12:54:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E762192A for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ramyalexis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22e.google.com (mail-oa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B27A320AF for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id l10so4143872oag.5 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:54:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8Ldg9h3DWfafjRGJSjMt0TZ+Z3Q9XzQ1XyF+pLKLb3Y=; b=xBKliq3QkouSLzrxml3LY5m2DAVc/hBaZulneBiGy1CsFLUHIVArkD8hUUZ4b8Y5a2 oW/O5cn8DdFde8kKS7yNxem/2BgoDME7OQCO2S6J1Dvne2raKWw2lKig/gSgm/MAEatw alafNfyCC7/9TRbNVMDzJ8kW8wUEBlrLrH4HxPGltkGY+u9FHqNZpa2IThPSbsi/7GUx 61LwnU4Sg1Int2FDLLJBS2vocI7bAeSPeaahqwrDwOj16mG9B7c02mm26ZIC/IadQcgX SqERSf6zarjeGaP/vzIAxInkG7nQLBAdDsWgVpxJaa82Q8cFdekRXeyXyKP+0UDa0yig LL0A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.181.73 with SMTP id du9mr998384obc.106.1375361664419; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.47.234 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:54:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> References: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:54:24 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: learn From: Alexey Smirnov To: herbert langhans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:54:26 -0000 I general i can not imagine that one could lost in FreeBSD handbook. IMHO it is written very good and there you can find some basic things too. There is whole chapter called Unix basics http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics.html The name clearly suggests that it is quite basic! 2013/8/1 herbert langhans > The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost > there. You know that, corebug. > > I usually recommend the owl: > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596002619.do > > Cheers > herb langhans > > > Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:41:07 +0300 > From: ??????? ??????? > To: "Teymur.Rahimzade" > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: learn > Message-ID: > 2-ESFWzJzVW4h49v32LRBGRugz+jA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ > > This should help a lot for sure :) > > > 2013/8/1 Teymur.Rahimzade > > Hi. > > Please help me to learn freebsd unix. > > Many thanks. > > -- > sprachtraining langhans > herbert langhans, warschau > office [at]langhans.com.pl > http://www.langhans.com.pl > +0048 603 341 441 > > | jabber:herbert.raimund > | yahoo_im:herbert.raimund > | icq:414500866 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 13:12:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A204EDC for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from eu1sys200aog112.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog112.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4B20218E for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com ([209.85.212.172]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob112.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUfpexqr7WNLyKC6U/B0PDP8js68GgMnv@postini.com; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:12:46 UTC Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hj13so4547043wib.17 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to:in-reply-to :x-gm-message-state; bh=KGehKRQsq5sxpi9SAjADcuYTqUG+W0FaabxIuW2U1R4=; b=MGTxrpQucoxfdJuoUThKLma/h9SYl7djurpYBZRuXKATYXH1TNwME4QecDxswgjras 81m+pNH5+64z7hnkn2EdYMODK8vkShoDIbQOVKt2vr9YsFlNTtRyofXsYR4B7h6fJ37C NWfxTBhS3A5VSutNXO8H2f3eiOHOZl20eSflDJ/syH13Zrjaa5nKWjHQR3i/xYRDnrKj 7TOzP8X+0RS/3elNVPi0brRShXc2iFgAdIcpWSg3JlY9sp4iFBebxsLXKvtQFDUXrnx1 oHtKfcXwCjnYOcZK16rSW0KYUGStS//Dw5wQEGarfWtv0RJ+DPLHoG5h5+Xqvwngr6hv tI3Q== X-Received: by 10.180.74.210 with SMTP id w18mr7839641wiv.20.1375362758421; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.74.210 with SMTP id w18mr7839637wiv.20.1375362758362; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z2sm3724835wiv.11.2013.08.01.06.12.36 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r71DCZuf004635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:12:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id r71DCZmp004634; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:12:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:12:35 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201308011312.r71DCZmp004634@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, teymur.rahimzade@gmail.com Subject: Re: learn In-Reply-To: <002b01ce8eab$4b41fa50$e1c5eef0$@gmail.com> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn6XruF1ENfvs88v9VT8ZeVu586zOK+3yOdGPSGtfAjQMiwNEwBbdExikbZazZadUmM3AZTojs+SgUnaC1DWiaJgljuB0ipCKAtRPjvehKz+BSYe7Zt3b6kn++6IQM1y7gcnMkar1lUuDeoA3dyD6j32FCs3KQEomzpke0DTguNGdLD7NA= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:12:46 -0000 >From: "Teymur.Rahimzade" >To: >Subject: learn >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:35:57 +0500 >Hi. >Please help me to learn freebsd unix. >Many thanks. RTFM: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 13:19:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C791B338 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6125B21EE for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r71DJTCt066230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:19:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r71DJTCt066230 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r71DJTCt066230; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <51FA6061.8020707@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 14:19:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130715 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: learn References: <201308011312.r71DCZmp004634@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <201308011312.r71DCZmp004634@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:19:34 -0000 On 01/08/2013 14:12, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> From: "Teymur.Rahimzade" >> To: >> Subject: learn >> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:35:57 +0500 > >> Hi. >> Please help me to learn freebsd unix. >> Many thanks. > > RTFM: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Reading the manual is a good place to begin. The other thing to do is just play with the system -- try and do stuff with it. You'll find this mailing list is a lot more useful if you ask more specific questions. 'Help me learn this ' is a bit nebulous, especially for people on this mailing list who are volunteering their time and expertise for free. Questions like 'How do I do ' will get you a lot further. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 13:21:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598E45E1 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from eu1sys200aog101.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog101.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A26502252 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f178.google.com ([74.125.82.178]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob101.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUfpg4SzLdJNMWVTEJKGTa0VrvtiYvKAt@postini.com; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:21:39 UTC Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u57so1699837wes.37 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to:in-reply-to :x-gm-message-state; bh=dNbDTTBCq/SqxNIKEW7RiHdrjX9RyvAS8aIE/x3i2Sw=; b=iCuGlHfdGl6LVY7UxwuAUULw0yZzyJqA7U27xmBwYBZmk3C/GNCy7c8ktHOqR7ampL e0Za1ijbPoiRD8YWW+ydaff08TjthaTkY6fcOJAvjp7COiNfaDllmgecfirPdRWbCymZ Rye4H9godaTREmm9JWlXAtWHAQBKmExC4+fGDhxpgoUsETyxB9Ktas+olm/PE8XysG9j HCYZFR7Ye2w6HUZ7A73xHr3AG3NBW+fq4tS4O9T663NGgNxg3ZWjtgfw1cimS3N9lQo8 GBlfmHCJIr6IF3Y0w12Hf8RIF4b3MhEgExOWEQw9A6rjMm3zWxxu7zNmsg395czlz9CZ HSeQ== X-Received: by 10.180.185.148 with SMTP id fc20mr1287044wic.0.1375363297809; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.185.148 with SMTP id fc20mr1287038wic.0.1375363297754; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mb7sm3779701wic.10.2013.08.01.06.21.36 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r71DLYWp004813 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id r71DLYZH004812; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, w3@langhans.com.pl Subject: Re: learn In-Reply-To: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmwTkjTLYhqCowAZRoaS47T9dRi5p4zYae/EEJ7PBmT90491So5xbxX+kGxVR/12drMs9rSyRAnfBph5hh6HvwYgQjLMhP+kDrlQoXSas7/0bmLWFT4vOSkM468PW7ZONQDtIE0qfblfw5yp+Y4b0jtUBzK0Nb4zWzo167IiSle0A29VoyLg8ufOLFZAHgnKnBv38lC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:21:40 -0000 >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200 >From: herbert langhans >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: learn >The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost >there. You know that, corebug. I completely disagree. The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project. In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9. Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot. The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice. Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 13:29:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F61C09 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amy.cole@researchandmarkets.org) Received: from mailsender14.researchandmarkets.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:258:f000:4:e4a1:315c:77f9:5f52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDC1022E5 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:29:16 +0000 (UTC) From: "Amy Cole" To: Subject: =?utf-8?B?SGFyZHdhcmUgRW5jcnlwdGlvbiBNYXJrZXQgLSBBbmFseXNpcyAmIEZvcmVjYXN0ICgyMDEzIOKAkyAyMDE4KQ==?= Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:29:09 GMT X-Mailer: RMSmtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20130801132917.79F61C09@hub.freebsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amy Cole List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:29:17 -0000 'Hardware Encryption Market - By Algorithms (AES, RSA), Architectures (FPG= A, ASIC), Products (Hard Disk Drives, USB Drives and In-Line Encryptors), = Applications, Verticals and Geography - Analysis & Forecast (2013 =2D 2018= ) ' =20 This reports considers the semi-conductor sub-market of the hardware encry= ption market for hardware based encryption chipsets. The semiconductor mar= ket is currently estimated at around $1.77 billion and is expected to reac= h $6.06 billion by 2018. Though the numbers of chipset manufacturers are l= ow at present, a growing number of chipset players are looking to tap into= the hardware encryption market and thus the procurement channel is expect= ed to become more efficient in the future. =20 This report offers a complete view of the hardware encryption industry wit= h regards to the products market. It provides detailed market segments and= qualitative analysis at every level of classification done by semiconduct= ors, products, applications, sub-applications, verticals and geography. Fi= gures - both revenue and volume - are forecast until 2018 to give a glimps= e of the potential revenue base in this market. =20 For more information please click on: =20 http://www.researchandmarkets.com/publication/spdg70/hardware_encryption_m= arket_by_algorithms_arc =20 Scope of the Report =20 - Total Markets: Global hardware encryption Market =2D Product Market, Chi= ld/Sub-Markets, Related Markets, Total Addressable Market (TAM) and Market= Penetration of Hardware encryption. =20 - Child/Sub Markets: Semiconductors market in hardware encryption. =20 - Related Markets: Software encryption Market. =20 - Market by Verticals: Global Hardware encryption Verticals market, Indust= rial, Residential, Commercial and Government Institutional. =20 - Market by Products: Hardware encrypted hard disk drives (HDDs), In-line = encryptors and hardware encrypted USB flash drives & memory sticks. =20 - Market by Application Sector: Hardware encryption markets in Consumer El= ectronics Sector, Communication networking security, Automotive and Transp= ortation Sector, Military Defense & Aerospace (MDA) Sector, Healthcare Sec= tor, Enterprise Sector and Emerging and other Application Sector. =20 - Market in Consumer electronics sector: Hardware encryption market in Ent= erprise applications, Notebook and Laptop Applications, Desktop applicatio= ns and other consumer electronic device applications. =20 - Market in Military, Defense & Aerospace sector: Hardware encryption mark= et in Military data encryption applications and Satellite Communication ap= plications. =20 - Market by Geography: North America (sub-segmentation by the U.S. & other= s), Europe (sub-segmentation by U.K., Germany, France and others), Asia-Pa= cific (sub-segmentation by China, Japan, South Korea, India and others), a= nd Rest of the Word (sub-segmentation by Latin America, the Middle East an= d others). =20 - Competitive Landscape: Market share analysis separately for Hardware enc= rypted HDD product manufacturers and Hardware encrypted USB drive manufact= urers. =20 - Company Profiles: Detailed analysis of major companies existing in the h= ardware encryption value chain. =20 For more information please click on: =20 http://www.researchandmarkets.com/publication/spdg70/hardware_encryption_m= arket_by_algorithms_arc =20 Title Index: =20 1 Introduction =20 1.1 Key Take-Aways =20 1.2 Report Description =20 1.3 Scope & Markets Covered =20 1.4 Stakeholders =20 1.5 Research Methodology =20 1.6 Report Assumptions =20 2 Executive Summary =20 3 Market Overview =20 3.1 Introduction =20 3.2 Market Statistics =20 4 Industry Characteristics =20 4.1 Introduction =20 4.2 Value Chain Analysis =20 4.3 Pest Analysis =20 4.4 Pricing And Cost Analysis =20 4.5 Market Investment Analysis =20 5 Market Analysis =20 5.1 Introduction =20 5.2 Market Dynamics =20 5.3 Industry Trends =20 5.4 Porters Analysis =20 6 Market In Smartphone And Tablet Applications =20 6.1 Smartphones And Tablets =20 7 Market By Encryption Algorithms & Architectures =20 7.1 Hardware Encryption Market By Algorithm =20 7.2 Hardware Encryption Market By Architectures =20 7.3 Hardware Encryption Market By Connectivity Environments =20 8 Market By Products =20 8.1 Introduction =20 8.2 Hard Disk Drives =20 8.3 In-Lineencryptors =20 8.4 USB Memory Sticks And Flash Drives =20 9 Market By Application =20 9.1 Introduction =20 9.2 Consumer Electronics Sector =20 9.3 Communication Networking Security =20 9.4 Automotive & Transportation Sector =20 9.5 Military, Defense & Aerospace (MDA) Sector =20 9.6 Healthcare Sector =20 9.7 Emerging & Other Applications Sectors =20 10 Market By Verticals =20 10.1 Introduction =20 10.2 Industrial =20 10.3 Commercial =20 10.4 Residential =20 10.5 Government Institutions =20 11 Market By Geography =20 11.1 Introduction =20 11.2 North America =20 11.3 Europe =20 11.4 APAC =20 11.5 Rest Of The World =20 12 Competitive Landscape =20 12.1 Market Share Ranking =20 12.2 New Product Launches/Developments =20 12.3 Mergers & Acquisitions/ Joint Ventures =20 12.4 Partnerships/Agreements/Strategic Alliance/ Collaborations =20 12.5 Contract/Deployment/ Awards/Certifications =20 13 Company Profiles Overview, Products And Services, Financials, Strategy = & Development)* =20 13.1 Certes Networks Inc. =20 13.2 GSMK Cryptophone =20 13.3 Imation Corp. =20 13.4 Kanguru Solutions =20 13.5 Kingston Technology Corporation =20 13.6 Koolspan Inc. =20 13.7 Maxim Integrated Products Inc. =20 13.8 Merlincryption Llc =20 13.9 Micron Technology Inc. =20 13.10 Netapp Inc. =20 13.11 Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. =20 13.12 Sandisk Corporation =20 13.13 Seagate Technology Plc =20 13.14 Secfone AG =20 13.15 Secude AG =20 13.16 Toshiba Corporation =20 13.17 Viasat Inc. =20 13.18 Western Digital Corporation =20 13.19 Winmagic Inc. =20 *Details On Overview, Products And Services, Financials, Strategy & Develo= pment Might Not Be Captured In Case Of Unlisted Companies. =20 Appendix =20 Recommended Readings =20 Pricing: =20 Electronic (Single User): EUR 3613 =20 Electronic (1 - 5 Users): EUR 4390 =20 Electronic (Site License): EUR 5556 =20 Electronic (Enterprisewide): EUR 6994 =20 Ordering - Three easy ways to place your order: =20 1] Order online at http://www.researchandmarkets.com/publication/spdg70/ha= rdware_encryption_market_by_algorithms_arc =20 2] Order by fax: Print an Order form from http://www.researchandmarkets.co= m/publication/spdg70/hardware_encryption_market_by_algorithms_arc and Fax = to +353 1 4100 980 =20 3] Order by mail: Print an Order form from http://www.researchandmarkets.c= om/publication/spdg70/hardware_encryption_market_by_algorithms_arc and pos= t to Research and Markets, Guinness Center, Taylors Lane, Dublin 8. 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Currently we are looking for quality inventory in= the following areas.=20 Display: (300*250, 160*600, 728*90) US inventory=20 INT Geo's; UK, CAN, AUS=20 Video: (Pre-roll, mid-roll and post-roll)=20 US inventory=20 INT Geo's; UK, CAN, AUS, Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia=20 Please let us know if you have additional volume in any of these geo's.=20 We are ready to move quickly and look forward to hearing from you.=20 Aaron Seligman| Sr. Business Development=20 Altitude Digital Inc=20 Aseligman@altitudedigitalpartners.com=20 Altitudedigitalpartners.com=20 o: 303-292-1414x25=20 f: 303-292-1255= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 15:34:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2142AF for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from nm1-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.149]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E514B2A9B for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2013 15:31:37 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.108] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2013 15:31:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2013 15:31:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1375371097; bh=7fiGQnBL5xRi+sjZ908KCCoaDrx6fw4+bc3aCec62Wg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OCwzk9D9mv0WG4xrvTfVSEgRofPw0ApH3lqrw/GJv/32ZVl7TJK7iRK/pA6/wvl5qvdQwBWs2FF1dwkIY8iQsxW5WMMuAmBLbSbO6ATKp18gSl4X1e+kZMIS9bl6izqfKZcrYc4jkdWf4JNd7AHAYatZNXT355I8jNpPFnX1+tc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 156537.70146.bm@smtp104.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 3SVaFYEVM1k2YK6P.59PUY8hM.JHyystTPup1vmGCHpQyVf VHC6Ab.qmtNm66lCX47kLkwomJTz7_Pwu4LEd6j5RHfLMtbycShuOblv1SIH fWwim5FY5I1ZfR4Khoq2e6gI_dxpwrYtd7ppeGRwclbqUcxjkEYYa0A139S4 lsHKEFm4UGGhUOEG.OXI0pe7AxsqR8EnYBEGRXWMiuTTILbPDZ.IWXWlYuZg P774Y14we8FXyUG0PHMVomf5V2TztfE0NUHRv06bqIaxalPMSWJq13JUneFw dxoQXckUkJD2.p4Dk1IP4.GzXjBlTAaDqFvQZHEC_6kLqsiQs7rcRmiUjBuv 6mF83bm95PjkEtadMSAB3XDjl8B2mO.QHNEHHnaWxLv5LfmwwsgG87qMyhd. medO3dZ21QyFXkw4xqskVd0qFSwMVkybGtH5Xh78hErbTNk9TWGU9Ww2Cc8l n72Q6FUiUIt4gDGIyxfYEbrkqAReESYMpBAfFEyiXZppVn6OKk6PJzHV7rav UMuN.cQJHirGbL7pQC20FZhLf5ntBV8Vk4R0LaL.Kz.n41CMs_dfWvVmZpWI 11u3kDHUuc5zKSswqX8n_Nc3MxtONE3Y9ZMTylFqt3snGHtRM847vUdBoJA- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- X-Rocket-Received: from europa (mike.jeays@173.33.93.170 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Aug 2013 08:31:37 -0700 PDT Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:31:35 -0400 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: learn Message-ID: <20130801113135.1d326f37@europa> In-Reply-To: <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.13; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 15:34:07 -0000 On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200 > >From: herbert langhans > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: learn > > >The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost > >there. You know that, corebug. > > I completely disagree. > > The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project. > In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation > effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me > start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried > several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available > documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed > for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the > FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install > and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9. > > Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot. > The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource > I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice. > > Anton > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Agreed - the handbook has been a great resource since I started using FreeBSD in 1997, at version 2.2.something. Greg Lehey's book "The Complete FreeBSD" is also excellent, and available as a free download - although I am sure he would appreciate contributions or purchases. http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 15:55:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169AADC0 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22f.google.com (mail-oa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D40512BFE for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id g12so4170815oah.20 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=xzUfe20cGzq5T/0WBXO9r4MTv5xyupc9iVKOpHDsCL8=; b=u4/PeZjjjdVynG/1kX4/QW7Wekc6Kin0A0Jfp6dalqC7OootV8oA2YY8+wKux6eCDB Bc0r31hG+pdZKikcNstKbFzrlKdo/U5RMvWC4VN3Yt/ifHyPpZyTZOjPgOwfwR8eVeuu 5LsF//jx2DzO5Sdn5J4wlDKheBr/o8i5q9qQ2nBvVk/439g7OqKlszhCWVykwa6/TrJb 78jpwLHteth5YcC63MkY5VCdxTbgd5uP+Vzp/FsNkRNCFHefj3tTOflcab3Lj+p1xALI izKmaoxMslZXQWELFPUCuw/FWwj59fARj32R/ilkA8gKQugPfBqpe7l49BFJB1oL2xSZ R/zA== X-Received: by 10.182.81.41 with SMTP id w9mr1788480obx.18.1375372526054; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q8sm3374111obl.11.2013.08.01.08.55.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 08:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: learn Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: <20130801113135.1d326f37@europa> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:55:21 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8B3397F6-CBFC-4D9C-A971-AC39861B309E@gmail.com> References: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20130801113135.1d326f37@europa> To: Mike Jeays X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: mexas@bris.ac.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 15:55:27 -0000 On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Mike Jeays wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >=20 >>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200 >>> From: herbert langhans >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: learn >>=20 >>> The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get = lost >>> there. You know that, corebug. >>=20 >> I completely disagree. >>=20 >> The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project. >> In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation >> effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me >> start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried >> several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available >> documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed >> for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the >> FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install >> and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9. >>=20 >> Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot. >> The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource >> I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice. >>=20 >> Anton >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > Agreed - the handbook has been a great resource since I started using = FreeBSD in 1997, > at version 2.2.something. >=20 > Greg Lehey's book "The Complete FreeBSD" is also excellent, and = available as a free > download - although I am sure he would appreciate contributions or = purchases. >=20 > http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ I suggest downloading the USB image, combine that with Googling and = bayam, off you go. Of course, supplement with RTFMing which should always be at your side = and all will be well. And lastly, having membership on this fine list is key. The FreeBSD = community is indeed grand. Hell, I may even get a hoody from the store :) - aurf= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 16:14:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D254F0 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-x234.google.com (mail-vb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E71BF2CF6 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f12so2277288vbg.25 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E8990tK/dLqSIY4eV3Vic7uihl9PLO+/2unyQqB99sk=; b=boLpwKjWbO/dGMxwOq9UH//XDYS+8epttlCfIUTno6T88oW5lf0ZAlYV0kzHRhFCVo nN0pNG6Y1F9yFeq2hxznbIqzRvVk1JIbH4900XM4wv80CVuvISd79tXuSDYJ6HUCOiNa K0UR9XJWIrwfJVcpT6ZQ/bh3062PRAgrv416KWEvsqDvCPu9xrrQ+MDhP/ibSkjNee0e z2e2ukZuvvmi9e4sCbHw6sQsZaqCvGoOTRD5P0Pd2kH+78ASNEVdDQrUq6TlkVkN8VWn K3CSX2HD+hFT5tv8uie5d95c4haQd6YkRUNEkgftf8yk0wYGpeSOYP+M33AqgXACCrsZ NIXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.101.81 with SMTP id b17mr677560vco.79.1375373686730; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.96.78 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:14:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Make Release From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:14:48 -0000 one specific question I have, that I can't find in the handbook... To make a FreeBSD release, that is to build the install images... you build world, and kernel.. then go to /etc/src/release and type make release... after this, the release images show up in /usr/obj/usr/src/release What I WANT to know.. is what shell script or file can I edit, to modify the install image BEFORE its created... for example say I wanted to add a line to /etc/rc.conf on the memstick.img file that gets created I understand that there may be better ways to accomplish this, but editing /etc/rc.conf is ONLY a example, im trying to find a simple way to create a "slightly" modified install media for my own internal purposes... eg: ssh enabled and the ethernet card set to DHCP, so I can remote install... I am aware of mfsBSD, as well as DruidBSD, however i'm looking for something simple that I can script. any help or thoughts is appreciated -- Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 16:40:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADF9E1F for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x229.google.com (mail-oa0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A67612E51 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j6so4868912oag.14 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=w2bLW2Qf9gTUh7m0z8AEDqjct5HXaRFzzWyAc/0WOz0=; b=wseH0Qf3nQrG3nCrRj55lH0LGqaOUvMd4bvTBPJhpkfKNjsx8U0nupdDHqxXO/gSXU tOzNeIRFJ7ACPi92dsWZkA7sVBNB9+CO+sLJDaiD765W8H2HA8FqszgNKNAIBF5z9/F4 vVCCJ/o4OoOYMmvNR5DyoNRl4nFy0+wSCo3zTx2+RIAmGgsAdLz/eLEM1o045n3WN0L1 GooOI5znLybmb5a52x14ItJzbG2k43UsBaaI/RXWHl30C5AcIPGIrt7O4TeUOaI2032c QVdjAwc9xFicIn3xzIm3pednLlOMjJCyrXthKz142SCMhIvFqXbLP6/TV9zkHLN7K18m yq1g== X-Received: by 10.182.246.39 with SMTP id xt7mr1977528obc.16.1375375222237; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.111.194 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:40:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Amitabh Kant Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 22:10:01 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Make Release To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd general questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:40:23 -0000 Devin Teske & Rick Miller have a fairly extensive explanation on their blogs on how to create your own modified iso's. Search the archives for links. Hopefully they can chime in with their respective links. I the meantime , the following link has somewhat of my own notes for creating a custom cd; http://www.amitabhkant.com/custom_iso_with_bsdinstall_in_freebsd/ Does not cover all points, but hopefully should give you a starting point. My link is only applicable for bsdinstall (9.0 & 9.1) based installers. Amitabh Kant On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > one specific question I have, that I can't find in the handbook... > To make a FreeBSD release, that is to build the install images... you build > world, and kernel.. then go to /etc/src/release and type make release... > after this, the release images show up in /usr/obj/usr/src/release > > What I WANT to know.. is what shell script or file can I edit, to modify > the install image BEFORE its created... for example say I wanted to add a > line to /etc/rc.conf on the memstick.img file that gets created > > I understand that there may be better ways to accomplish this, but editing > /etc/rc.conf is ONLY a example, im trying to find a simple way to create a > "slightly" modified install media for my own internal purposes... > eg: ssh enabled and the ethernet card set to DHCP, so I can remote > install... I am aware of mfsBSD, as well as DruidBSD, however i'm looking > for something simple that I can script. > any help or thoughts is appreciated > -- > > Sam Fourman Jr. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 16:43:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC12DEEC; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 727162E79; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r71GhjYc032656 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:43:45 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT05.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.16]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:43:44 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Subject: Re: Make Release Thread-Topic: Make Release Thread-Index: AQHOjtJECsxKvcvx/UeR7ZtcfRlfPpmA4r6A Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:43:43 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEB17@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3558BE00DC73F044A1191FBAF767B9BC@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-01_07:2013-08-01,2013-08-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:43:49 -0000 On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > one specific question I have, that I can't find in the handbook... > To make a FreeBSD release, that is to build the install images... you bui= ld > world, and kernel.. then go to /etc/src/release and type make release... > after this, the release images show up in /usr/obj/usr/src/release >=20 > What I WANT to know.. is what shell script or file can I edit, to modify > the install image BEFORE its created... for example say I wanted to add a > line to /etc/rc.conf on the memstick.img file that gets created >=20 > I understand that there may be better ways to accomplish this, but editing > /etc/rc.conf is ONLY a example, im trying to find a simple way to create a > "slightly" modified install media for my own internal purposes... > eg: ssh enabled and the ethernet card set to DHCP, so I can remote > install... I am aware of mfsBSD, as well as DruidBSD, however i'm looking > for something simple that I can script. > any help or thoughts is appreciated I'm hoping that my very open development documentation on customizing the r= elease(7) process for producing DruidBSD releases can help you out here. I've documented much of the internals of the release(7) process (albeit, re= levant to the RELENG_8 release(7) Makefile; in RELENG_9 it's still relevant= to /usr/src/release/Makefile.sysinstall ... but I gather that much of the = knobs may still exist in HEAD). Have a read through this revision-controlled text file... http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/patch= es/README?revision=3D1.2&view=3Dmarkup ALSO NOTE: Yes, the file is dated... it talks about cvsup instead of svn. M= y hope is that the doco can be a good starting point (even if the data is a= bit dated). In there, you'll find things like (relevant to RELENG_9): make -f Makefile.sysinstall release \ MAKE=3D"/usr/bin/env CFLAGS=3D-DDRUID make" \ CHROOTDIR=3D/usr/release EXTSRCDIR=3D/usr/src KERNELS_BASE= =3D \ NODOC=3DYES NO_FLOPPIES=3DYES NOCDROM=3DYES NOPORTS=3DYES \ WORLD_FLAGS=3D-DWITHOUT_OPENSSL PATCH_FLAGS=3D-N \ LOCAL_PATCHES=3D/tmp/druid.patches \ LOCAL_SCRIPT=3D/tmp/local_script.sh |& tee release.log Take special note of the "LOCAL_SCRIPT=3D" option. Maybe, just maybe, the bsdinstall-specific release(7) process supports LOCA= L_SCRIPT too. If it doesn't... why not? --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 16:56:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C671260 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22f.google.com (mail-ob0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2660F2F04 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id xn12so4393662obc.34 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=CK7kVOv3SpvXM0jnzz7su8iSnEYC5gNg1Nql2Omhn18=; b=YZ4vJ1fEIISh3KWcrsT7pStzB0/vBOtQYkPbYO1iFlid6DrMKb/8IWOg+kUBWV/Dt3 5l7fZXqc/IehmNshrysSl/is85X2wBYsnGW5wPP0+7z9Zr34KXYgF9j+cC3sVwc7QKmn H+MrsboGRo36+6lUYn1ocDlrMWwmyKhgt6fkRFfF/aMxRW9p4vTw8T311OKuE63Z0OP4 5cEBZUSah8vCpJLg1qngtM0h/f0HOUyuOZ6NiFOjh3kFwHj2NkCwXXSr/TKH/t/NniJ4 FEQvzOe4V5qTIZdVrysFUuF4xI56BiQvfQiE95cX2GoNvWmreATJib/3icbUmi6EA+44 DOsw== X-Received: by 10.60.98.41 with SMTP id ef9mr1936214oeb.68.1375376172149; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.111.194 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:55:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Amitabh Kant Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 22:25:52 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Make Release To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd general questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:56:13 -0000 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Amitabh Kant wrote: > Devin Teske & Rick Miller have a fairly extensive explanation on their > blogs on how to create your own modified iso's. Search the archives for > links. Hopefully they can chime in with their respective links. > > I the meantime , the following link has somewhat of my own notes for > creating a custom cd; > http://www.amitabhkant.com/custom_iso_with_bsdinstall_in_freebsd/ > > Does not cover all points, but hopefully should give you a starting point. > My link is only applicable for bsdinstall (9.0 & 9.1) based installers. > > Amitabh Kant > > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > >> one specific question I have, that I can't find in the handbook... >> To make a FreeBSD release, that is to build the install images... you >> build >> world, and kernel.. then go to /etc/src/release and type make release... >> after this, the release images show up in /usr/obj/usr/src/release >> >> What I WANT to know.. is what shell script or file can I edit, to modify >> the install image BEFORE its created... for example say I wanted to add a >> line to /etc/rc.conf on the memstick.img file that gets created >> >> I understand that there may be better ways to accomplish this, but editing >> /etc/rc.conf is ONLY a example, im trying to find a simple way to create a >> "slightly" modified install media for my own internal purposes... >> eg: ssh enabled and the ethernet card set to DHCP, so I can remote >> install... I am aware of mfsBSD, as well as DruidBSD, however i'm looking >> for something simple that I can script. >> any help or thoughts is appreciated >> -- >> >> Sam Fourman Jr. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Sorry for the top posting in my last email. Amitabh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 16:57:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9855C319; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x229.google.com (mail-oa0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5670E2F1B; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j6so4910456oag.14 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=66k59I6i/569PUazaVPHESDzOE7Xq4V8/Weksx6buaw=; b=rtJ6oArdRkqaQojvicc9KL5xrzpDkiRIVLwStlBTNxfztVuTyYikutoZCHWc2A68vt w3FndlCXCjcC+kO8nPHdvUR6jKc6q+j8mJx2srdTgspiusARhHDcZhJiyyPRXSHwmeN5 R+/1J3gLdziHadwhFHOhjPpd69I2HdtRyC3qMbxO/uIUW0FUmwymyIA9rgJxTJ5qu2T9 fBW/72J9wTdAjhpGH5wud4WecQFKbvd03PGiiG4bAb4Wi6awcK0lRI7+lRxv1YhDRM9q C3g1BmBLoMxVi/vbgAhCs6j8QCvJ0GeQXfHogrtXjj23AGe2Zg9SqowiV7Zg2GZnNeSE lzDA== X-Received: by 10.60.98.73 with SMTP id eg9mr1933482oeb.70.1375376228677; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:57:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.111.194 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEB17@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEB17@ltcfiswmsgmb21> From: Amitabh Kant Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 22:26:48 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Make Release To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:57:09 -0000 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Teske, Devin wrote: > I'm hoping that my very open development documentation on customizing the > release(7) process for producing DruidBSD releases can help you out here. > > I've documented much of the internals of the release(7) process (albeit, > relevant to the RELENG_8 release(7) Makefile; in RELENG_9 it's still > relevant to /usr/src/release/Makefile.sysinstall ... but I gather that much > of the knobs may still exist in HEAD). > > Have a read through this revision-controlled text file... > > > http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/patches/README?revision=1.2&view=markup > > ALSO NOTE: Yes, the file is dated... it talks about cvsup instead of svn. > My hope is that the doco can be a good starting point (even if the data is > a bit dated). > > In there, you'll find things like (relevant to RELENG_9): > > make -f Makefile.sysinstall release \ > MAKE="/usr/bin/env CFLAGS=-DDRUID make" \ > CHROOTDIR=/usr/release EXTSRCDIR=/usr/src KERNELS_BASE= \ > NODOC=YES NO_FLOPPIES=YES NOCDROM=YES NOPORTS=YES \ > WORLD_FLAGS=-DWITHOUT_OPENSSL PATCH_FLAGS=-N \ > LOCAL_PATCHES=/tmp/druid.patches \ > LOCAL_SCRIPT=/tmp/local_script.sh |& tee release.log > > Take special note of the "LOCAL_SCRIPT=" option. > > Maybe, just maybe, the bsdinstall-specific release(7) process supports > LOCAL_SCRIPT too. If it doesn't... why not? > -- > Devin > Devin Do you have any idea if there have an changes to bsdinstall process (on scripting side) in the upcoming 9.2 ? Amitabh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 17:58:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115CCC82; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 17:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C83CC2198; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 17:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r71Hw7OO021989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:58:07 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT03.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.31]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:58:06 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Amitabh Kant Subject: Re: Make Release Thread-Topic: Make Release Thread-Index: AQHOjtJECsxKvcvx/UeR7ZtcfRlfPpmA4r6AgAADpwCAABEggA== Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 17:58:05 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEEA3@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEB17@ltcfiswmsgmb21> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-01_08:2013-08-01,2013-08-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , Devin Teske , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:58:09 -0000 On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Amitabh Kant wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Teske, Devin = wrote: > I'm hoping that my very open development documentation on customizing the= release(7) process for producing DruidBSD releases can help you out here. >=20 > I've documented much of the internals of the release(7) process (albeit, = relevant to the RELENG_8 release(7) Makefile; in RELENG_9 it's still releva= nt to /usr/src/release/Makefile.sysinstall ... but I gather that much of th= e knobs may still exist in HEAD). >=20 > Have a read through this revision-controlled text file... >=20 > http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/pat= ches/README?revision=3D1.2&view=3Dmarkup >=20 > ALSO NOTE: Yes, the file is dated... it talks about cvsup instead of svn.= My hope is that the doco can be a good starting point (even if the data is= a bit dated). >=20 > In there, you'll find things like (relevant to RELENG_9): >=20 > make -f Makefile.sysinstall release \ > MAKE=3D"/usr/bin/env CFLAGS=3D-DDRUID make" \ > CHROOTDIR=3D/usr/release EXTSRCDIR=3D/usr/src KERNELS_BAS= E=3D \ > NODOC=3DYES NO_FLOPPIES=3DYES NOCDROM=3DYES NOPORTS=3DYES= \ > WORLD_FLAGS=3D-DWITHOUT_OPENSSL PATCH_FLAGS=3D-N \ > LOCAL_PATCHES=3D/tmp/druid.patches \ > LOCAL_SCRIPT=3D/tmp/local_script.sh |& tee release.log >=20 > Take special note of the "LOCAL_SCRIPT=3D" option. >=20 > Maybe, just maybe, the bsdinstall-specific release(7) process supports LO= CAL_SCRIPT too. If it doesn't... why not? > -- > Devin >=20 > Devin >=20 > Do you have any idea if there have an changes to bsdinstall process (on s= cripting side) in the upcoming 9.2 ?=20 >=20 Yes, the partedit portion of bsdinstall is scriptable in 9.2. Also, many bu= g fixes. Also, you can now create /etc/installerconf (no `dot' between inst= aller and conf) and it will be picked up and run by bsdinstall. For your bsdinstall scripts, 2 new tools and a new framework to learn... Tools: bsdconfig(8) and sysrc(8) Framework: bsdconfig libraries (advanced scripting) If you're behind on your sysinstall(8) *(yes... sysinstall(8)) scripting ab= ilities, then I suggest you brush up. * bsdconfig(8) is [mostly] backward compatible sysinstall(8) scripts So... in your bsdinstal installerconf, you can: # Example A # ( do bsdinstall stuff ) then... bsdconfig packages # Example B # ( do bsdinstall stuff ) then... sysrc sshd_enable=3D"YES" # Example C # ( do bsdinstall stuff ) then... . /usr/share/bsdconfig/script.subr || exit 1 for package in a-1.0 b-2.0 c-3.0; do packageAdd done Here's a full list of items that bsdconfig(8) supports which are documented= in sysinstall(8) (to which all you need to do to access is to include "/us= r/share/bsdconfig/script.subr"): loadConfig deviceRescan mediaOpen mediaClose mediaGetType mediaSetCDROM mediaSetDOS mediaSetDirectory mediaSetFloppy mediaSetNFS mediaSetUFS mediaSetUSB optionsEditor tcpMenuSelect mediaSetFTP mediaSetFTPActive mediaSetFTPPassive mediaSetFTPUserPass mediaSetHTTP mediaSetHTTPProxy configPCNFSD configPackages packageAdd packageDelete packageReinstall installVarDefaults dumpVariables But that's only the tip of the iceberg. To get a full idea of what you can = do with shell-script ALONE, you have to see the bsdconfig includes, which a= re in /usr/share/bsdconfig (link to what's released into 9.2 below): http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/9/usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share/ For example, there is: common.subr -- stuff everybody should use (makes your code cleaner and give= s you basic abilities missing in shell, like f_getvar -- partner to setvar) device.subr -- scan for known devices and create structures with device inf= o and type. Also provide routines for quickly scanning the array of structu= res for pre-probed devices of a specific type. Also contains code for prese= nting a menu of devices (of given type) to the user to select, returning th= e user's selection for processing. dialog.subr -- a *monster* of a library (uber documented to boot). Allows c= lean abstraction of dialog to where either dialog(1) or Xdialog(1) is a sim= ple proposition to interface to. mustberoot.subr -- if your shell script needs to be able to run as non-root= but escalate to root as-needed, this provides a clean way to transition to= where your users seemlessly elevate. script.subr -- a dummy include that includes all the other includes. strings.subr -- handy string manipulation routines (tuned both for convenie= nce and performance). struct.subr -- hold information in structs (using shell!) sysrc.subr -- manage rc.conf(5)! variable.subr -- variable definitions (boring; unless you code on bsdconfig= -- hey, think about writing a module sometime! I encourage it, it's fun!) Beyond that... ( ok that's enough for this e-mail ). --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 18:20:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D81535; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9B5D22B5; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r71IKaV6022591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT05.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.16]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:20:35 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Amitabh Kant Subject: Re: Make Release Thread-Topic: Make Release Thread-Index: AQHOjtJECsxKvcvx/UeR7ZtcfRlfPpmA4r6AgAADpwCAABEggIAABkgA Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:20:35 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEFDE@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEB17@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEEA3@ltcfiswmsgmb21> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201FFEEA3@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-01_08:2013-08-01,2013-08-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , Devin Teske , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 18:20:38 -0000 On Aug 1, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >=20 > On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Amitabh Kant wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Teske, Devin wrote: >> I'm hoping that my very open development documentation on customizing th= e release(7) process for producing DruidBSD releases can help you out here. >>=20 >> I've documented much of the internals of the release(7) process (albeit,= relevant to the RELENG_8 release(7) Makefile; in RELENG_9 it's still relev= ant to /usr/src/release/Makefile.sysinstall ... but I gather that much of t= he knobs may still exist in HEAD). >>=20 >> Have a read through this revision-controlled text file... >>=20 >> http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/pa= tches/README?revision=3D1.2&view=3Dmarkup >>=20 >> ALSO NOTE: Yes, the file is dated... it talks about cvsup instead of svn= . My hope is that the doco can be a good starting point (even if the data i= s a bit dated). >>=20 >> In there, you'll find things like (relevant to RELENG_9): >>=20 >> make -f Makefile.sysinstall release \ >> MAKE=3D"/usr/bin/env CFLAGS=3D-DDRUID make" \ >> CHROOTDIR=3D/usr/release EXTSRCDIR=3D/usr/src KERNELS_BAS= E=3D \ >> NODOC=3DYES NO_FLOPPIES=3DYES NOCDROM=3DYES NOPORTS=3DYES= \ >> WORLD_FLAGS=3D-DWITHOUT_OPENSSL PATCH_FLAGS=3D-N \ >> LOCAL_PATCHES=3D/tmp/druid.patches \ >> LOCAL_SCRIPT=3D/tmp/local_script.sh |& tee release.log >>=20 >> Take special note of the "LOCAL_SCRIPT=3D" option. >>=20 >> Maybe, just maybe, the bsdinstall-specific release(7) process supports L= OCAL_SCRIPT too. If it doesn't... why not? >> -- >> Devin >>=20 >> Devin >>=20 >> Do you have any idea if there have an changes to bsdinstall process (on = scripting side) in the upcoming 9.2 ?=20 >>=20 >=20 > [snip] > Beyond that... ( ok that's enough for this e-mail ). More includes (for the advanced scripting -- again, tapping into what /usr/= share/bsdconfig/script.subr provides), there are sub-directories in /usr/sh= are/bsdconfig (but again, script.subr brings them all in): media/ -- one file for each type of media (FTP, HTTP, HTTP Proxy, NFS, ... = etc.) networking/ -- scripts for getting, setting, and interactively modifying ne= twork packages/ -- package management password/ -- root password startup/ -- rc.conf(5) and startup services timezone/ -- like tzsetup usermgmt/ -- user management stuff Each of those includes a lot of low-level functionality but it's all docume= nted very well. That being said... there's one more avenue of scripting. All of the bsdconfig(8) modules that act as front-ends to the above librari= es. Those are in /usr/libexec/bsdconfig -- and you can call those from your bsd= install ``/etc/installerconf'' too. # Example A /usr/libexec/bsdconfig/090.timezone/timezone However, it's far easier to just say: # Example B bsdconfig timezone For a list of keywords to the modules, say either: bsdconfig -h *or* Peruse the diagram (which is generated by "bsdconfig dot"): http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/bsdconfig/bsdconfig-HEAD-20130506-= 3i.svg The green parallelograms are the bsdconfig keywords, and the blue rectangle= s represent the modules (mousing over it will show the /usr/libexec/bsdconf= ig path in a tooltip). --=20 Devin > --=20 > Devin >=20 > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confident= ial. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message = and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any = manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 19:48:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7781EF61 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesgosnell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-x22a.google.com (mail-ee0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA9A92755 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f42.google.com with SMTP id b45so1217186eek.29 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uFbHtjbg6KmwmzqpJMLOCYpaUmrrVRRWB29MsYThDqs=; b=arjStrB5ZlvK6RH8ZDMG6Y5HjR8sHm7koI21zTz4yhvj+ly1r1kiXgcOqYXcCeWzxo CticnnpwyV/voE65lcNuzS49873wkGgEPYfS4FpakmevmyPvmwjs4hrnWyuHgAw1wEwY YlwdzrnG9MeIUDsuMG0eqfS1ulUeruKTO8WbQV5vShk2oUNYoVrlzz2ualfoOVkwoc+R 5irAjamBeZ7F99tr49fF/FzdcT7TOP40vpQDBElIc+yc65F+CjkeM6mTCUg7pV7vBdUM x6ib+ZRB1WrjlG8hBpf+HB4bZDKwvF/8YHnFkEvC86XLc4t1tE+filQnuztHYUj3haBG 1UHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.176.199 with SMTP id b47mr2765511eem.117.1375386490081; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.84.130 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> References: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:48:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: learn From: James Gosnell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:48:12 -0000 I learned FreeBSD by reading the Handbook from start to finish. It's great documentation for an OS. It's grown since then as well. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, herbert langhans wrote: > The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost > there. 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I read that FreeBSD 9.2 will bring TRIM to ZFS. Does anyone know if this works even if the zpool is a mirror? 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Does anyone know if this > works even if the zpool is a mirror? The vdev type doesn't matter. It'll work on plain disks, mirrors, and raidzs. If for some reason you have a pool built on geom mirrors, it'll work on that, too, since gmirror forwards BIO_DELETE requests to its components. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 2 15:16:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803ABA91 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 15:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22f.google.com (mail-oa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 499EB2BFB for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 15:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id g12so1601849oah.34 for ; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 08:16:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=FVT9gqJzyQTAIszFbabJctRCc5sMK2V67Hy8DeOq418=; b=syh+5r9alu3fHJyFKjxCt38Sa+DC4piHhbhr9iAVN3M/FUnnzI8mag60cil12Iw+XI CW1eIzxPE2Z4jR/+tKzPqoJ07C3W7euqlRRkXZ/SJIZ9vtXq0hZymK66uSmgx+VhFqwg eYtJXKMDz4XcFv65DlUNZSgz8AQFyfZU1lFako3g3mu6YPF+DwDQw6IWozkmkt3J70ic 4l0RQxfxYoUeM0b9Xm5SY21kjjgY6dH6VB995S2fZRrOGZBw0HVyeuVJPHB2nNcMKm56 bv7U5pfi1qacqRjG1W2aN1yOcA24q+BGmcdU/QCdz5gTzadVD3qSEqbIUjY3RDGEU2pV zmyw== X-Received: by 10.60.123.10 with SMTP id lw10mr5642892oeb.102.1375456609680; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 08:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y1sm7481413oek.4.2013.08.02.08.16.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Aug 2013 08:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: TRIM on ZFS mirror Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 08:16:44 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0A46A98E-1933-41D2-8830-DBA24FE92E00@gmail.com> References: To: John Andreasson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:16:50 -0000 Confirmed in beta 1. - aurf On Aug 2, 2013, at 2:12 AM, John Andreasson wrote: > Hi. >=20 > I read that FreeBSD 9.2 will bring TRIM to ZFS. 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Fri, 2 Aug 2013 15:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@growveg.net) Received: from smtp1.servage.net (smtp1.servage.net [IPv6:2a01:3b0:1:fb:1::2001]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA03D2DAA for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 15:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from potato.growveg.org (growveg-1-pt.tunnel.tserv11.ams1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f14:3d2::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.servage.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50E1732479 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51FBD63F.7050403@growveg.net> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:54:39 +0100 From: John User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130627 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: virtualbox-ose fails to build on FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698 X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:54:57 -0000 Hello list, I'm trying to install virtualbox on a new machine running FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698. The ports version is 324162. Is it a problem with the port or my machine? Here is my make.conf: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # cat /etc/make.conf CC=clang CXX=clang++ CPP=clang-cpp # added by use.perl 2013-07-30 20:08:48 PERL_VERSION=5.14.4 # no x11 WITHOUT_X11=yes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have no x11 because this is a server. Here is the error: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In file included from /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/VBox/log.h:36, from /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/src/VBox/GuestHost/HGSMI/HGSMICommon.cpp:24: /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:251: error: 'size_t' does not name a type /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:253: error: expected initializer before '*' token /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1196: error: 'va_list' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1216: error: 'va_list' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1468: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1507: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1507: error: 'va_list' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1522: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1533: error: 'size_t' does not name a type /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1559: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1601: error: 'PFNRTLOGPREFIX' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1638: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1699: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1719: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1748: error: 'va_list' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1781: error: 'va_list' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1801: error: 'va_list' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1830: error: 'size_t' does not name a type /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1838: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1847: error: 'size_t' does not name a type /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1856: error: 'size_t' does not name a type /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1928: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1937: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1946: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1955: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1966: error: 'size_t' does not name a type /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/iprt/log.h:1975: error: 'size_t' does not name a type /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/src/VBox/GuestHost/HGSMI/HGSMICommon.cpp:67: error: 'size_t' has not been declared /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/src/VBox/GuestHost/HGSMI/HGSMICommon.cpp: In function 'void* HGSMIHeapAlloc(HGSMIHEAP*, HGSMISIZE, uint8_t, uint16_t)': /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/src/VBox/GuestHost/HGSMI/HGSMICommon.cpp:303: error: 'size_t' was not declared in this scope /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/src/VBox/GuestHost/HGSMI/HGSMICommon.cpp:303: error: expected `;' before 'cbAlloc' /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/src/VBox/GuestHost/HGSMI/HGSMICommon.cpp:305: error: 'cbAlloc' was not declared in this scope kmk: *** [/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/HGSMIGuestR0Lib/HGSMICommon.o] Error 1 The failing command: @g++ -c -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -Wall -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-unused -Wno-trigraphs -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wpointer-arith -Winline -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 -fno-stack-protector -O2 -mtune=generic -fno-omit-frame-pointer -nostdinc -include /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include/VBox/VBoxGuestMangling.h -m64 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -Wundef -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/include -I/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/HGSMIGuestR0Lib/dtrace -I/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/include -I/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose/work/VirtualBox-4.2.16/out/freebsd.amd64/release -DVBOX -DVBOX_WITH_DEBUGGER -DVBOX_OSE -DVBOX_WITH_64_BITS_GUESTS -DVBOX_WITH_HARDENING -DRT_OS_FREEBSD -D__FREEBSD__ -DRT_ARCH_AMD64 -D__AMD64__ -DRTPATH_APP_PRIVATE=\"/usr/local/share/virtualbox-ose\" -DRTPATH_APP_PRIVATE_ARCH=\"/usr/local/lib/virtualbox\" -DRTPATH_SHARED_LIBS=\"/usr/local/lib/virtualbox\" -DRTPATH_APP_DOCS=\"/usr/local/share/doc/virtualbox-ose\" -DIN_RING0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DHC_ARCH_BITS=64 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Currently I'm using the following approach: In ~/.xmodmap, I define a symbol according to the keycode I found out by using the "xev" program: keycode 140 = F27 This file is "activated" by the "xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc" command in ~/xinitrc (called via ~/xsession, "cascaded"). In WindowMaker's menu, I define a submenu "Functions" where I put the program calls I want to assign to keys, then use the "Capture" function and press the desired key. Now the association is made. Of course, this approach is _specific_ to WindowMaker! I'm searching for a way to do this among different environments in X without having to configure each one of them (or even being disappointed because this feature is not implemented). My goal is to make the volume keys of various laptops change the volume via the "mixer" command. Those keys are nothing special, they just send key codes. Similarly I want to use this with my Sun Type 7 USB keyboard. But I'd also like to make use of additional and "multimedia" keys on laptops that simply send key codes that can be assigned key names. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 09:33:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0841F73F for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from nskntqsrv03p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntqsrv03p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A90E2D17 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nskntcmgw08p ([61.9.169.168]) by nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20130803073609.HPKE1983.nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p> for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 07:36:09 +0000 Received: from hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au ([58.172.113.247]) by nskntcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id 87c91m0085LKYmq017c9N5; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:36:09 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=MrvQGhme c=1 sm=1 a=YibVxx38Z+cwdCKSMcELyg==:17 a=ZPulf7j1ddEA:10 a=twTT4oUKOlYA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=GHIR_BbyAAAA:8 a=gIA8HmcBx3wA:10 a=TJX6G-hjaIcoSPbJ4EkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3aq-5-JnGlwA:10 a=qcYUyZAU7V8A:10 a=YibVxx38Z+cwdCKSMcELyg==:117 Received: from white (white.hs [10.0.5.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (8.14.5/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r737ZaWq036480 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:35:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) From: "Dewayne" To: Subject: Geli and crunchgen (/rescue) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:35:36 +1000 Organization: Heuristic Systems Pty Ltd Message-ID: <9121C290928D49ECB462DE369BE694DD@white> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac6QHAgE252R/l1WQF2gE3XKQ+4dCQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 09:33:54 -0000 Unfortunately I have had the need on several occasions to recover systems that use geli encrypted disks. Unfortunately geli is not included in the crunchgen /rescue directory. Has anyone been successful in crunchgen'ing geli into /rescue? I've spent a few hours on this and think herding cats might be easier. Regards, Dewayne. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 11:30:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977BB3DC for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mailch-3.name-services.com (mailch-3.name-services.com [98.124.252.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836692FA2 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailch.name-services.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailch.name-services.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D0AE962DD4B for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 04:30:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender-Id: 173.88.196.224 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (sjl0vwsmail09.prod.dm.local [10.7.17.59]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.23); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:30:27 GMT X-Pool-Id: 4 Received: from [10.0.10.1] (cpe-173-88-196-224.neo.res.rr.com [173.88.196.224]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 04:30:16 -0700 Message-ID: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:30:15 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions Subject: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:30:32 -0000 I have a .sh script that I need to determine if the entered IP address is IPv4 or IPv6. Is there some .sh command that does this? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 12:04:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DC3B7C for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327A920C5 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:04:26 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=IO07VGfG c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=v6UVC9kNpZcA:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=7eOdkc0L9ToA:10 a=9LOgCDU5KqfWOZUXnNQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=uugeGtt4FLoA:10 a=6KXi-4-EGdoA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:25037] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 13/0F-04066-9C1FCF15; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 08:04:26 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 08:04:25 -0400 To: Fbsd8 Subject: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 In-Reply-To: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:04:27 -0000 Fbsd8 writes: > I have a .sh script that I need to determine if the entered IP > address is IPv4 or IPv6. > > Is there some .sh command that does this? Not that I know of. But ... how hard can it be to figure out whether it uses '.' or ':'? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 13:30:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ED9880; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5783E22A3; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r73DU7KS025559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 08:30:07 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.135]) by LTCFISWMSGHT05.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.16]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 08:30:06 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Dewayne Subject: Re: Geli and crunchgen (/rescue) Thread-Topic: Geli and crunchgen (/rescue) Thread-Index: Ac6QHAgE252R/l1WQF2gE3XKQ+4dCQAW3E6A Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:30:05 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D72020020B1@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <9121C290928D49ECB462DE369BE694DD@white> In-Reply-To: <9121C290928D49ECB462DE369BE694DD@white> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-03_04:2013-08-02,2013-08-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 13:30:14 -0000 On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:35 AM, Dewayne wrote: > Unfortunately I have had the need on several occasions to recover systems= that use geli encrypted disks. Unfortunately geli is not > included in the crunchgen /rescue directory. Has anyone been successful = in crunchgen'ing geli into /rescue? >=20 > I've spent a few hours on this and think herding cats might be easier. >=20 I'll give it a go. I've got a fair amount of experience with crunchgen... Oh, wait... I already did it... (see below link): http://druidbsd.cvs.sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/dep/freebsd/patch= es/local_patches/release%3A%3Ai386%3A%3Aboot_crunch.conf.patch?revision=3D1= .2&view=3Dmarkup There you go ;D (smiles) --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 13:37:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F685C58; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 253AA22F7; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r73DbB0D022435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 08:37:11 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.135]) by LTCFISWMSGHT03.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.31]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 08:37:10 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Topic: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Index: AQHOkDzj3H/8RokAXEKdt073gODRzpmD0HKA Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:37:09 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202002127@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <295A7AB30A6A364DAED4A7AB71441AC1@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-03_04:2013-08-02,2013-08-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 13:37:13 -0000 On Aug 3, 2013, at 4:30 AM, Fbsd8 wrote: > I have a .sh script that I need to determine if the entered IP address > is IPv4 or IPv6. >=20 > Is there some .sh command that does this? >=20 In RELENG_9, soon to be released 9.2-R: =3D=3D=3D FILE: wis =3D=3D=3D #!/bin/sh DEVICE_SELF_SCAN_ALL=3D . /usr/share/bsdconfig/media/tcpip.subr if f_validate_ipaddr6 "$1"; then echo "Hey, nice IPv6 addr, great job!" elif f_validate_ipaddr "$1"; then echo "Hey, nice IPv4 addr; smiles" elif f_validate_hostname "$1"; then echo "Hey, nice hostname" else echo "What on Earth wast, _that_?!" exit 1 fi =3D=3D=3D END FILE =3D=3D=3D dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis ::1 Hey, nice IPv6 addr, great job! dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis 0::1 Hey, nice IPv6 addr, great job! dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis 0:::1 What on Earth wast, _that_?! dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis 1.2.3.4 Hey, nice IPv4 addr; smiles dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis 0.2.3.4 Hey, nice IPv4 addr; smiles dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis 256.2.3.4 Hey, nice hostname dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis foo.bar.com Hey, nice hostname dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis abc-123 Hey, nice hostname dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ ./wis abc_123 What on Earth wast, _that_?! --=20 Cheers, Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 14:04:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EE453C; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E87A23A7; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r73E4jlF000645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:04:45 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.135]) by LTCFISWMSGHT04.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.15]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:04:44 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Robert Huff Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Topic: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Index: AQHOkDzj3H/8RokAXEKdt073gODRzpmDtomAgAAhnIA= Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:04:43 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <574A7B97ECC44442A193B569A24D6DC1@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-03_04:2013-08-02,2013-08-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , Fbsd8 , questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:04:47 -0000 On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:04 AM, Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > Fbsd8 writes: >=20 >> I have a .sh script that I need to determine if the entered IP >> address is IPv4 or IPv6. >>=20 >> Is there some .sh command that does this? >=20 > Not that I know of. > But ... how hard can it be to figure out whether it uses '.' or > ':'? >=20 Actually, there's /usr/share/bsdconfig/media/tcpip.subr Function family: f_validate_ipaddr6 $ipv6_addr # Should be complete; I digested multiple RFCs on IPv6 f_validate_ipaddr $ipv4_addr [$netmask] # optional netmask to validate IP is within doubly-valid =09 f_validate_hostname $hostname # To RFC specifications 952 and 1123 But if you need to prompt the user to enter a value and then validate it, t= he above functions return meaningful exit status for determining what's wro= ng with their entry (why did it fail specification, for example). To help decode the exit status, the functions you want to use are: # In /usr/share/bsdconfig/networking/ipaddr.subr Function family: f_dialog_iperror $status $ipv4_addr f_dialog_ip6error $status $ipv6_addr As is implied with the "_dialog_" in their name, they take the $? exit stat= us from the previously mentioned f_validate_*() functions and display a dia= log(1) error appropriate to what's wrong. For example, you might see: ERROR! One or more individual octets within the IPv4 address\n(separated by= dots) contains one or more invalid characters.\nOctets must contain only t= he characters 0-9.\n\nInvalid IP Address: %s or ERROR! The IP address entered has either too few (less than 3), too\nmany (= more than 8), or not enough segments, separated by colons.\n\nInvalid IPv6 = Address: %s And then, in the same function family above (as the *ip[6]error()): f_dialog_vaildate_ipaddr $ipv4_addr f_dialog_validate_ipaddr6 $ipv6_addr These are like: f_validate_ipaddr $ipv4_addr f_validate_ipaddr6 $ipv6_addr Except as implied by the extra "_dialog_" in their name, they will actually= run f_validate_* and then f_dialog_ip[6]error() for you with the result. Finally, last, but not least... The process of actually *getting* the values has been simplified too. In th= e same family function (as f_dialog_ip[6]error and f_dialog_validate_ipaddr= [6]()) is: f_dialog_input_ipaddr $interface $ipaddr # $interface is displayed in the prompt text # $ipaddr is used as default text in the input box If user doesn't press escape or select cancel, $ipaddr will hold the users = entry. This function validates, displays errors, and is an all-around solution if = you need to prompt the user to enter the info and only proceed if they ente= r a valid entry (the above function is IPv4 centric and supports CIDR notat= ion). The IPv6 version of the latter (f_dialog_input_ipaddr6) does not yet exist.= I'm getting there. For now, if you need to prompt for an entry that could = be IPv6, use the generic f_dialog_input() routine and sanitize it with the = aforementioned API. --=20 Cheers, Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 14:54:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1D3B60 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17D3224C1 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V5d4X-0002G7-VP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:44:45 +0200 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:44:45 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:44:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: Assign program call to a key Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20130803070846.8cabc010.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:54:12 -0000 Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > Is there a way to assign a predefined program call to a key > in X, _independently_ from the window manager or desktop > environment in use? > ... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys_in_Xorg It may give you some hints. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 15:05:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12FCD53 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386592509 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:05:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.97.5 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 33937273; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 21:05:10 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r73E59Vv040995; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 21:05:09 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r73E58u9040994; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 21:05:08 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 21:05:08 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: D-Link DUBE100 USB NIC does not work Message-ID: <20130803140508.GA40889@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Bill Paul X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 15:05:20 -0000 Dear Colleagues, It is written in axe(4) and in the HCL for 9.1 that D-Link DUBE100 is supported. I have bought one and the system shows it as ugen0.3: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (200mA) What am I doing wrong? Why does it not attach a driver to it? Should I do something else besides plugging the device in for the network interface to appear? I am running stable/9 (9.2-BETA2 at the moment). TIA for any input. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 18:02:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1099485 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-x22e.google.com (mail-bk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81A42290F for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 6so540694bkj.19 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:02:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1/taIbl0NGyoFlCb+GLwf0wUCdvjzjPY5KJfJ00sMvI=; b=ktJAV2IRlMjpvwgBt2tanrLUs0RjOcOrxuRpbfn+LXaaK8czr/N4bpBRcZOQjBYfZl BQphA21LEo7xdU7qTpSMlWXkZgfVCXl/ot9m3T/baIDP0GFYwyLzcMNc2oad8VXxkRjE R0G6nWrSI/V3OPh05tUku5VL+UQ4N3MKCe3ljwuzMhyjcQJvzggqS6Naxyu9TbLOjhsO HKBNSvcFlCpW+KJ08o0eyDTtLTYfpfX8JyDS2g4EMVmUlpPI96FzY/SqR6MnzM1ff16Q nVKCBxZv9e3vgipumiKSJz1XnEurBi6/Gfk3x97Rb1I89iWA8uYyQgba53/n0KxU0YGu 4bag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.74.135 with SMTP id u7mr1897910bkj.54.1375552951554; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.185.80 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.185.80 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:02:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130803140508.GA40889@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20130803140508.GA40889@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:02:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: D-Link DUBE100 USB NIC does not work From: Waitman Gobble To: Victor Sudakov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Bill Paul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:02:34 -0000 On Aug 3, 2013 8:05 AM, "Victor Sudakov" wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > It is written in axe(4) and in the HCL for 9.1 that D-Link DUBE100 is > supported. I have bought one and the system shows it as > > ugen0.3: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (200mA) > > What am I doing wrong? Why does it not attach a driver to it? Should I > do something else besides plugging the device in for the network > interface to appear? > > I am running stable/9 (9.2-BETA2 at the moment). > > TIA for any input. > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru Hi, did you see the axe(4) man page? Did you put if_axe_load="YES" in loader.conf or build kernel with axe support? Hope that helps. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 20:04:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2952FBB for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 20:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD222C5F for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 20:04:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.97.5 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 33938280 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 03:04:50 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r73K4nAq046253 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 03:04:50 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r73K4n0A046252 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 03:04:49 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 03:04:49 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: D-Link DUBE100 USB NIC does not work Message-ID: <20130803200449.GA45983@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20130803140508.GA40889@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:04:52 -0000 Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > > It is written in axe(4) and in the HCL for 9.1 that D-Link DUBE100 is > > supported. I have bought one and the system shows it as > > > > ugen0.3: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (200mA) > > > > What am I doing wrong? Why does it not attach a driver to it? Should I > > do something else besides plugging the device in for the network > > interface to appear? > > > > I am running stable/9 (9.2-BETA2 at the moment). > > Hi, did you see the axe(4) man page? Yes. I mentioned it in my message. > Did you put if_axe_load="YES" in > loader.conf or build kernel with axe support? The GENERIC kernel already has "device axe" [sudakov@vas ~] grep axe /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet [sudakov@vas ~] [root@vas ~] kldload if_axe kldload: can't load if_axe: Exec format error [root@vas ~] dmesg | grep axe module axe already present! interface axe.1 already present in the KLD 'kernel'! [root@vas ~] -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 22:07:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90337CA for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 612562F65 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r73M6uJ6009436 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:06:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FD7F00.9030407@blackfoot.net> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:06:56 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: x11-toolkits/open-motif build issue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:06:57 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 22:07:12 -0000 Hi all, I'm running a newly upgraded 9.1. Did a portmaster -a to rebuild what I had up to a point, then tried building x11-toolkits/open-motif, as it is the component which failed when trying to build editors/openoffice-3. Seeing the same error I was seeing under 9.0. I suspect this is something screwed up in the environment but haven't a clue what it is. It looks like crt1.o is being included in the library build by mistake, and that's causing the undefined ref to _main. hints? Thanks, Gary gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif/work/motif-2.3.4/tools' Making all in wml gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif/work/motif-2.3.4/tools/wml' /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=gnu89 -Wall -g -fno-strict-aliasing -Wno-unused -Wno-comment -fno-tree-ter -DCSRG_BASED -DXNO_MTSAFE_API -DXNO_MTSAFE_PWDAPI -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -L/usr/local/lib -o wmluiltok wmluiltok.o -lXp -liconv -L/usr/local/lib -lXft -lXrender -L/usr/local/lib -lXft -ljpeg -lpng libtool: link: cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=gnu89 -Wall -g -fno-strict-aliasing -Wno-unused -Wno-comment -fno-tree-ter -DCSRG_BASED -DXNO_MTSAFE_API -DXNO_MTSAFE_PWDAPI -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -o wmluiltok wmluiltok.o -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/libXp.so /usr/local/lib/libXext.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so /usr/local/lib/libXft.so /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so -lz -lbz2 /usr/local/lib/libXrender.so /usr/local/lib/libX11.so /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so /usr/local/lib/libXau.so /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so -lrpcsvc /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so -lpng -pthread -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': crt1.c:(.text+0x8a): undefined reference to `main' gmake[2]: *** [wmluiltok] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif/work/motif-2.3.4/tools/wml' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif/work/motif-2.3.4/tools' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 23:11:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5046542 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 23:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54B202126 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 23:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r73NBK5s032176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 00:11:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 00:11:21 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Archiving a log file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 23:11:30 -0000 The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsyslog As a one-off, I need to archive an old log file - say httpd-access.log - while its still open. I don't want this to happen automatically and I don't want to set up newsyslog or anything like that. And I really don't want to mess about with signals to whatever is writing to the file, even assuming the writer could respond to them. I can't just rename the file as it's open for writing, and there would also be a good chance that something will be added to the file while it's being compressed. What I actually do is: cp httpd-access.log httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 && :> httpd-access.log && bzip2 httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 Data might be lost here as something may be added between the cp being completed and the file being truncated. It's not the end of the world if this happens, but is there a better way? I could always shut down Apache for the duration, but I don't want to do that either, so in this case I'm happy to take the risk (it's not like I'm likely to miss anything that important). I don't know if this can be relied on as a POSIX thing, but the cp command simply(!) issues read() and write() calls until read() fails to get any more bytes, so if data is being appended to the file after cp is started it'll still be copied. Therefore the window where stuff could be written after the copy but before the truncation is shortened, but extant. So what's the magic utility I don't know about? Thanks, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 3 23:27:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7AA703 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 23:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C566217B for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 23:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r73NRZdn039975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:27:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r73NRZHV072618 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:27:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r73NRZMt072617; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:27:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:27:35 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: Archiving a log file Message-ID: <20130803232735.GC47411@dan.emsphone.com> References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> X-OS: FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:27:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 23:27:47 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 04), Frank Leonhardt said: > The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsyslog > > As a one-off, I need to archive an old log file - say httpd-access.log - > while its still open. I don't want this to happen automatically and I > don't want to set up newsyslog or anything like that. And I really don't > want to mess about with signals to whatever is writing to the file, even > assuming the writer could respond to them. I can't just rename the file > as it's open for writing, and there would also be a good chance that > something will be added to the file while it's being compressed. > > What I actually do is: > > cp httpd-access.log httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 && :> httpd-access.log && bzip2 httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 > > Data might be lost here as something may be added between the cp being > completed and the file being truncated. It's not the end of the world if > this happens, but is there a better way? I could always shut down Apache > for the duration, but I don't want to do that either, so in this case I'm > happy to take the risk (it's not like I'm likely to miss anything that > important). > > I don't know if this can be relied on as a POSIX thing, but the cp command > simply(!) issues read() and write() calls until read() fails to get any > more bytes, so if data is being appended to the file after cp is started > it'll still be copied. Therefore the window where stuff could be written > after the copy but before the truncation is shortened, but extant. > > So what's the magic utility I don't know about? newsyslog :) It renames the active logfile to a new name, sends the process a signal (syslog and SIGHUP by default) letting it know that it should close and reopen its logfile (creating a new one), then gzips the renamed file. In Apache's case, just specify the path to apache's pidfile in your newsyslog.conf, and everything should just work. Don't be afraid of signals. Without signalling the logging process to switch to a new logfile, and without suspending the process while you do your copy, there's always going to be a window where you risk losing logged data. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com