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Date:      Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:45:20 -0600
From:      Brian E Carpenter <brian@hursley.ibm.com>
To:        Brian Zill <bzill@microsoft.com>
Cc:        "'f.johan.beisser'" <jan@caustic.org>, Brad Huntting <huntting@hunkular.glarp.com>, snap-users@kame.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com
Subject:   Re: 6over4 for KAME (FreeBSD)
Message-ID:  <39FDA5A0.A79A5FB5@hursley.ibm.com>
References:  <CB7153628BD3724096258CBFD70AA891041DB8@red-msg-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>

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Brian,

Thnaks for clarifying that. I'm working on a whole family of specs
(6on4, 6under4, 6from4, 6and4...) to confuse everybody even more :-)

No, Proposed Standard doesn't require interoperability - that's when you go to
Draft Standard. Yes, there were a couple of implementations of 6over4 around,
but I haven't yet thought about doing the due diligence to see if we are
ready for Draft Standard. There is at least one pending change to
the 6over4 spec that we agreed on a year ago (a SHOULD NOT instead of
a MUST NOT).

6over4 is an IPNGWG item. I have deleted NGTRANS from the copies.

  Brian Carpenter

Brian Zill wrote:
> 
> 6to4 and 6over4, while having unfortunately similar names, are quite
> different things.
> 
> 6to4 is a form of automatic IPv6 tunneling over IPv4.  The IPv4 address of
> the "home" end of the tunnel is encoded into the IPv6 prefix.  See
> draft-ietf-ngtrans-6to4-07.txt.
> 
> 6over4 is another IPv6 over "foo", where "foo" in this case is a
> multicast-enabled IPv4 network, instead of say Ethernet or FDDI.  See RFC
> 2529.
> 
> My recollection is that an implementation of 6over4 for some BSD flavor
> exists, since I recall someone performing some interoperability testing
> between our implementation and that implementation.  UCLA sounds familiar.
> Aren't two interoperating implementations a requirement for Proposed
> Standard? (RFC 2529 is at PS) I'm not aware of any others offhand, but it
> wouldn't surprise me if there were some.
> 
> --Brian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: f.johan.beisser [mailto:jan@caustic.org]
> > Sent: Friday, 27 October, 2000 12:32
> > To: Brad Huntting
> > Cc: snap-users@kame.net; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG;
> > ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com; ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com
> > Subject: Re: 6over4 for KAME (FreeBSD)
> >
> >
> >
> > i'm not sure if this is what you mean, but:
> >
> > http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/
> >
> > also, i think that it is documented on http://www.kame.net.
> >
> > of course, i oculd very well be talking out of my butt.
> >
> > -- jan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Brad Huntting wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Has anyone started writing a 6over4 (rfc2529) driver for KAME and/or
> > > FreeBSD?
> > >
> > > I have a pointer to a UCLA project called "Virtual Ethernet" by
> > > Quang Nguyen (no email address given), but it was written for the
> > > Inria stack and FreeBSD2.  If there's nothing else available, I
> > > may use this as a guide.
> > >
> >
> >
> > -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+
> >   http://caustic.org/~jan                      jan@caustic.org
> >    "Never laugh at someone until you've walked a mile in their
> >          shoes. Then laugh. For you are a mile away, and
> >                       you have their shoes."
> >
> >
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