From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 18 09:01:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CDC282 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from m1plsmtpa01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688C28FC13 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by m1plsmtpa01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id Qwyd1k0094XeM0101wyeZZ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:58:38 -0700 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:58:38 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Anybody use the Dell 3010?? Message-ID: <20121118085838.GA7267@ethic.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:01:14 -0000 I probably should cc the hardward guys about this. first, see if it geta any traction here, tho. my tech guy got me a Delll 3010 that has an "improved" [[meaning screwed up]] BIOS with some hardware mess called the UEFI. Trying to get ssh to work *bi-directionally* i royally f'ked up my installation for well over 27 hours. ssh still fails to connect going in to my "new tao"; but this time I know what to avoid. my question is simple: of what use is this new/improved POS setup? im sure its the same for every flavor of unix. my view is that it mjust makes using non-windozw that much more painful. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community.