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Date:      Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:10:32 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Rob Garrett <eagle@phc.igs.net>
To:        nclayton@lehman.com
Cc:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Security Ceritfication for individuals
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906030608290.51007-100000@eagle.phc.igs.net>
In-Reply-To: <19990603105528.T22307@lehman.com>

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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 nclayton@lehman.com wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:59:40AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
> > Wes Peters wrote:
> > > I just poked around the Tekmetrics web site, and it looks pretty good.
> > > If anyone is interested in creating FreeBSD certifications, as a
> > > programmer, system administrator, or security administrator, working
> > > with Tekmetrics to make FreeBSD-specific versions of their generic
> > > UNIX exams would be a good starting point.
> > > 
> > >         http://www.tekmetrics.com/    (duh!)
> > 
> > This topic came up in the -security mailing list, but is related to
> > an occasional discussion here in -advocacy.  Tekmetrics has a "reseller" 
> > program, where you can sell their certification tests on your own web 
> > site.  This would certainly be appropriate for the FreeBSD Mall and 
> > any other vendor of FreeBSD-related good or services.
> > 
> > If possible, I'd like for several of the -advocates to surf over there,
> > look at the trial tests, and perhaps take the UNIX programmer or UNIX
> > system administrator test as their free test, to get a feeling if this
> > is something we'd like to pursue.
> 
> I've just done this;
> 
>     Congratulations! You passed at the Master's Level with a score of 
>     4.46. You are now a Certified Master Unix Administrator.
> 
> <homer>Whoo hoo</homer>
> 
> I receive the certificate in 4-6 weeks apparently.
> 
> It's a 40 question multiple choice test (5 choices per question).  You get
> 180 seconds per question (Javascript controlled) and most of the answers
> would easily be found in the man pages.
> 
> I'm not sure of the overall value.  I now get to put links to 
> 
>      http://www.tekmetrics.com/transcript.shtml?pid=26428
> 
> anywhere I want (so be looking out for a commit to www/en/index.sgml soon
> :-) ) which is nice.  In my experience as a contractor I'm not sure if this
> counts for much, as the vast majority of companies will have their own 
> Unix tests that they give you at the first or second interview.  And this
> web one is trivially easy to cheat on, just by making sure you've got 
> access to a set of Unix manual pages.
> 
> The majority of the test applies to FreeBSD.  There are a couple of 
> questions in there that are SysV-ish, like
> 
>                K30tcp  K70cron        S15preserve   S50rpc      
>                K40nfs  K99inet        S30tcp        S70cron 
>                K50rpc  S01MOUNTOFSYS  S40nfs 
> 
>     During shutdown, which prefixes in the sample code directory list 
>     above are of interest? 
> 
>     Choice 1 All S's
>     Choice 2 All K's
>     Choice 3 K99  S99
>     Choice 4 K30  S30  K50  K70  K70  S70
>     Choice 5 S01MOUNTOFSYS
> 
> which could be replaced by questions about /etc/rc.conf and friends.
> 
> I don't think there's any reason why we couldn't pursue this, as I don't
> think there's a cost to the project as a whole.
> 
> However, one thing that might be worth thinking about.  Roughly 6 months
> ago I approached -core about the Amazon and Barnes and Noble partnership
> programs.  My idea was to put links to the appropriate books from the 
> Handbook bibliography on the site, and get a percentage of the revenue from
> any links via the bibliography.  -core decided this was not a good idea,
> which is fair enough.
> 
> This reseller-test program works along the same lines, so -core may have 
> the same objections.
> 

This is just a thought for you all to think about. If we have to write the 
test ourselves it would be easy enough to administer the same kind of
test, free to people via the advocacy site.

depending on the response I get from this..

Rob




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