From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat May  8 13:19:41 1999
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Nope.. "toor" is still UID 0 and hence is root (in disguise).  There are no
in-betweens, no nifty-user or somewhat-super-user.  Just 0 and everyone
else!  :^)

You can always use sudo.

-Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Rick Hamell [SMTP:hamellr@dsinw.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, May 06, 1999 2:02 PM
> To:	Stefano Riva
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> Subject:	Re: What is the toor in  /etc/passwd ?
> 
> 
> > >Please tell me what the toor is .
> > 
> >   It's a "classic" alias of root (same UID). Linux-style, AFAIK. It's
> > useful, for example, when you want to do something as root keeping a
> > different environment and/or shell well configured. Define the password,
> if
> > you want to use it.
> 
> 	Which poses a question, could you setup a user like an Admin
> person who has rights to addusers, move files, etc. But is not able to do
> any of the other root procedures.
> 
> 
> 						Rick


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- john - wrote:
> 
> >sera que pueden meterle una super business app como
> >SAP R/3?
> anyone who put their SAP R/3 environment on a linux box ought to have their
> head examined. trust me.

Trust you?
I better trust Siemens.

> >Sera entonces que si hace todo esto no puede con
> >grandes cargas? Sera que es un OS de desktop?
> >Si ustedes saben de algun otro sistema
> >operativo que haga todo esto y ademas este creciendo
> >mas que linux en popularidad
> ok, so your point is: It doesnīt matter if it can handle lots of
> load, or is a "desktop OS" because linux can do all theese other
> tings?

No, linux can handle a lots of load AND DO this other things, ask
DejaNews

> Who cares about reliability anyway?

Don't think so:

    Domain : RIPE+.edu
     DName  : ---------
     Service: ftp+news+www
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     Date   : April `99


  Host OS recognized (grouped, sorted)    01/99  %recog      04/99  
%recog  +/-%   
  ------------------------------------  -------  ------    ------- 
-------  ----   
            1.(   )              Linux   287093    28.5     399748    
31.3  +2.8   
                                                                           
^^^^^^
            4.(   )         BSD Family   150961    15.0     186385    
14.6  -0.4 
                                                                           
^^^^^^  

So, all this people don't care about realiability for servers not to
mention desktop?
So because is very unreliable is gaining more server share than *BSD?

I don't want a flame war. And my real point is that linux is a very good
OS.
So don't miss this point, if you think that attacking linux your OS will
get
more acceptance you are wrong. The FreeBSD community got a lot to win if
linux
win. What i think about FreeBSD? Ok, a good OS, certainly i will not
take off my
linux boxes for FreeBSD, although i work with FreeBSD servers at work :)

I think is better now to think how to make FreeBSD to not loose more
server
share than attack linux with FUD.

> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
microsofish ahh? ;)

</END>

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It needs to be suid so that it runs as root, otherwise it can't access
the files that it needs to.  
Solution:

cd /usr/bin
chmod 2555 passwd

and it should work


Pedro Leitao wrote:
> 

> before doing anything passwd's permissions where
> -r-sr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  24976 Feb 15 10:44 /usr/bin/passwd
>    ^See the S?
> now after screwing around I get
> -r-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  24976 Feb 15 10:44 /usr/bin/passwd
>    ^Now it's gone
> when a user tries to change his password it gets this
> passwd: error opening database: /etc/pwd.db.: Permission denied
> passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged
> 


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat May  8 14: 6:43 1999
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I am running FreeBSD box as my connection to my ISP with ppp -auto
-alias.

I know how to redirect incomming packets on specific ports to internal
addresses.

What I am wondering is if I can redirect traffic from a specific port
or external address to an internal address?


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat May  8 14:10:49 1999
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I have an odd problem with NATD on FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE.  I have a box with
3 Ethernet cards:

   xl0    = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  255.255.0.0
   fxp0   = 192.168.100.1    255.255.255.0
   ed0    = yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy  255.255.255.240

Interface xl0 is a 10Mbps Ethernet with a single IP address assigned to it
(that is, no aliases) connected to the target ISP.  Interface fxp0 is a
100Mbps Ethernet with an RFC1918 address attached.  Interface ed0 is a
10Mbps Ethernet with a routable IP address attached to another ISP; I use
this temporarily as a "back door" into the net until I can get the
firewall and natting correct.

I want to NAT things on fxp0 through xl0.  I installed the four directives
as specified in the kernel and rebuilt; the directives in the kernel are

  options         IPFIREWALL
  options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
  options         IPDIVERT
  options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD

The kernel builds fine and installs.  Per the instructions for natd I
also enabled gatewaying in the kernel (via the sysctl command).

The firewall rule set does:

  # $Id$

  # Block all RFC1918 addresses (and weird ones) coming from the
  # provider.  Block RIP too; we don't want to advertise bogus 
  # information out.

  add deny   all from 192.168.0.0:0xffff0000 to any            in  via xl0
  add deny   all from 172.16.0.0:0xffff0000  to any            in  via xl0
  add deny   all from 10.0.0.0:0xff000000    to any            in  via xl0
  add deny   all from 127.0.0.0:0xff000000   to any            in  via xl0
  add deny   udp from any 520                to any 520            via xl0

  # We use 192.168.100.0 in our network, but we don't want it talking
  # out except through NAT.

  add deny   all from 192.168.100.0:0xffffff00 to any           out via xl0

  # NAT the rest and for the time being allow anything else.

  add divert natd log all from any to any via fxp0
  add allow ip from any to any

Basically all I'm doing is protecting against spoofing and blocking
RFC1918 addresses from going out interface xl0.  The firewall log records
packets being diverted as you'd expect.

When I run the command "natd -interface xl0 -verbose" I get a log that
looks like:

  In  [TCP]  192.168.100.40:1079 -> 207.46.176.11:80 aliased to
             192.168.100.40:1079 -> 207.46.176.11:80
  In  [TCP]  192.168.100.40:1079 -> 207.46.176.11:80 aliased to
             192.168.100.40:1079 -> 207.46.176.11:80
  In  [TCP]  192.168.100.40:1079 -> 207.46.176.11:80 aliased to
             192.168.100.40:1079 -> 207.46.176.11:80
  In  [TCP]  192.168.100.40:1079 -> 207.46.176.11:80 aliased to
             192.168.100.40:1079 -> 207.46.176.11:80

Now this is wierd - apparently natd is converting the address
192.160.100.40 to itself!  Just for grins I tried to force the issue by
using the command "natd -alias_address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" but I get the
exact same results.

Any ideas?  I searched the mail archives and did find someone else having
trouble, but didn't see any replies that fixed his problem.

Much obliged,

Mike

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Hello,

I've been having problems with my console locking up at strange times when
X is running on a 3.1-REL machine. It still has network connectivity, etc,
just no console access. Some info that might help:

I am running the XF86_I128 server.
I am not running the psm drivers. (I noticed some previous posts in which
disabling this was mentioned.)
uname -a:
FreeBSD still.hungry.com 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #1: Mon May 10
02:08:43 PDT 1999     toor@still.hungry.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/agro
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This problem only seems to be around when I am running the X server. It
also seems to occur when I switch into, and then out of X quickly.


Any ideas on what to do about this would be greatly appreciated.


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Hi,
This is far from the first time I have set up either use or kernel ppp in
freebsd.

But "Nothing like this ever happened to me before"

I have tried both user and kernel ppp and I can connect to my ISP but can
get no farther.
My home network works fine.
I cannot get out though.
In my experience this is usually due to my resolv.conf which I checked and
is set up how i always have it.

Whaer else can I look.

I stay connected but just cannot get past my ISP.
I am writing thjis from linux which resides on another drive so I know the
problem is not with my ISP. 

Thanks Alot for any idea's

Rick

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat May  8 15:30:35 1999
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Brian,
	If I can chime in with my 2c worth . . 
I recently built a bum kernel which crashed and 
left the machine in a state which even the old
kernel wouldn't run in.  I began to believe that I had 
irrevocably hosed my disk.  However, I was able to 
fix it by booting off the cdrom, going to fixit with disk #2
and using fsck a couple times and then mounting 
the disk partitions in /dev/mnt2 on new directories 
I made in /tmp. (mkdir /tmp/root, etc).

I poked around the disks for a while.
They seemed good.
So I rebooted and it was okay.

This happened twice.
It doesn't sound like it would be better than using the
old kernel as Doug White suggested, but I don't expect 
computers to be logical all of the time :-)


James

Brian Bell wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> My 3.1 FreeBSD system has run well for some time but this morning I sat
> down to my machine and it had crashed during the night.  I saw that it had
> run fsck fine. I logged in and got xwindows running with no problems
> until I tried to run one of the programs that the machine was running at
> the crash (rc5 proj).  Instant crash of the whole system.  Rebooted and
> deleted the rc5 program and tried to run my other program (make of
> java1.1.7)  Crashed my whole system.  Rebooted again and fsck was starting
> to find lots of problems.  Kicked out of the boot and said to run fsck
> manually.  I did and it fixed some block problems.  Went into xwindows and
> tried to run netscape.  Crash out of xwindows.  Tried to restart xwindows
> and crashed the whole system.  When I rebooted some times i get a huge
> crash right after boot up with the error of the pager.  So I am now
> booting kernel.old and running fcsk to find out what is crapping things
> out.  It keeps just saying disk dirty rerun fsck.  I have done that now 6
> times.  What do I need to do to start stabilizing my system?  I am afraid
> to start anything do to it might just hose my system and that would hurt:)
> Let me know what more details you want. thnxs
> 
> >From the desk of
> Brian Bell
> or (602) 231-0918
> 
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Rick Knebel writes:
>Hi,
>This is far from the first time I have set up either use or kernel ppp in
>freebsd.
>
>But "Nothing like this ever happened to me before"
>
>I have tried both user and kernel ppp and I can connect to my ISP but can
>get no farther.
>My home network works fine.
>I cannot get out though.
>In my experience this is usually due to my resolv.conf which I checked and
>is set up how i always have it.
>
>Whaer else can I look.
>
>I stay connected but just cannot get past my ISP.
>I am writing thjis from linux which resides on another drive so I know the
>problem is not with my ISP. 
>
>Thanks Alot for any idea's
>

this just came up in the ISDN list. Try this:

+ 
+ 12. I'm using sPPP. I can connect to my ISP but no TCP/IP services work. HELP!
+ ==============================================================================
+ 
+ This is probably because you have the RFC1323 - TCP Extensions for High
+ Performance - support turned on and your ISP (or some router in the loop)
+ is discarding the extensions.
+ 
+ This can easily be checked by doing ``sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1323''. If the
+ result is 1, then the RFC1323 support is turned on.
+ 
+ Turn this off by doing ``sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0''.
+ 
+ For FreeBSD make sure that tcp_extension="NO" is in your /etc/rc.conf
+ (/etc/defaults/rc.conf with more recent versions of FreeBSD) !!

---
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat May  8 15:41:51 1999
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> > Last but not least, check the output of /dev/sndstat: 
> 
> > $ cat /dev/sndstat 

	Did you ./MAKEDEV sndstat ? :)

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> I CDROM is GoldStar CDROM. I tried to install and did not notice a gscd
> driver. Is the gscd supported in FreeBSD, or will I need to upgrade my
> CDROM before I install FreeBSD.

	Goldstars are geneirc atapi drives. Other then is realative low 
quailty, there is no reason why it should not work. Unlike Linux, drivers 
in FreeBSD tend to be a little less specialized. 


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Hi everyone,

I have just upgraded the latest version of apache
But instead of me everytime to start freebsd type

/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start

I want freebsd to start that during  the bootup. without me typing it

Can someone tell me how I can do that Please :)

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Put a small shell script in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory.  Call it
something like apache.sh.  The system looks there upon bootup for any local
programs it needs to startup.

e.g.
#!/bin/sh
/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start

-Chris

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> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have just upgraded the latest version of apache
> But instead of me everytime to start freebsd type
> 
> /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start
> 
> I want freebsd to start that during  the bootup. without me typing it
> 
> Can someone tell me how I can do that Please :)
> 
> __________________________________________________________________
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	The Portland FreeBSD Users Group has been scheduled for the third 
thursday of each month. For May this is going to be the 20th. This 
month's and probally next months location is the same as the Unix (Linux) 
Users Group, the PSU Miller Library in rm. 160 at 6:30PM 
	This months topic will be hopefully be PPP by Ted Middlestat. If 
anyone else is interested in a speaking on a topic, please let me know. 
:) I'm planning on doing the pizza thing, so a RSVP to let me know how 
many people are coming would be apprecited. :)  

						Rick

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Freebsd Danny wrote:

> I have just upgraded the latest version of apache
> But instead of me everytime to start freebsd type
> 
> /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start
> 
> I want freebsd to start that during  the bootup. without me typing it
> 
> Can someone tell me how I can do that Please :)

Put that command in /etc/rc.local

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Hi,

I have now connected with the user ppp but still cannot with the kernel ppp.
If I try to use fetchmail it just sits there and eventually gives me a
message about failed nameserver lookup.
It works fine with user ppp.
Does this make sense.

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Ok, I'm stumped.

Is there a SOCKS 5 proxy server available for FreeBSD?  I searched through
the ports at www.FreeBSD.org and only came up with a client and a perl
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Any help would be appreciated.

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Hi,

I'm running 3.1-RELEASE and XFree86-3.3.3.1 and moused/sysmouse,
and occasionally the system will get into a state where XF86_SVGA
core dumps on any mouse motion.  Rebooting seems to be the only
"fix" (restarting the X server doesn't fix the problem -- the first
mouse motion after restart causes a core dump).

My suspicion is that the sysmouse driver's state is being corrupted,
since the problem is fixed by rebooting but nothing else I do such
as restarting XF86_SVGA or moused seems to have any effect.

"moused" is being invoked as "moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto".  XF86Config
contains the lines
	Protocol "MouseSystems"
	Device   "/dev/sysmouse"

Once the problem begins occuring, reconfiguring XF86Config to use a
/dev/psm0 directly (Protocol "PS/2", Device "/dev/psm0") and restarting
XFree86 doesn't make any difference -- XF86_SVGA still core dumps
on first motion.  I don't know if the problem occurs if I never
use sysmouse. 

It's been 22 days since this problem last occurred.  The problem
did seem to occur much more frequently (every few days) when I was
running a program called "x2vnc" (similar to x2x but for any VNC
server).

My mouse is a Logitech "MouseMan" PS/2 mouse (3 button, no wheel).

Here's a backtrace from XF86_SVGA:

> GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), 
> Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...(no debugging symbols found)...
> Core was generated by `XF86_SVGA'.
> Program terminated with signal 6, Abort trap.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libxpg4.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...
> done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libm.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
> Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...
> done.
> #0  0x2831ec44 in _kill ()
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x2831ec44 in _kill ()
> #1  0x28352cf4 in abort ()
> #2  0x8149ece in ddxGiveUp ()
> #3  0x8149f64 in AbortDDX ()
> #4  0x818322d in AbortServer ()
> #5  0x818402b in FatalError ()
> #6  0x81529b8 in xf86VTSwitch ()
> #7  <signal handler called>
> #8  0x8153d05 in xf86MouseProtocol ()
> #9  0x81582ae in xf86MouseEvents ()
> #10 0x8153283 in xf86MseEvents ()
> #11 0x815296a in xf86Wakeup ()
> #12 0x8167f79 in WakeupHandler ()
> #13 0x817ec8c in WaitForSomething ()
> #14 0x81624a9 in Dispatch ()
> #15 0x8170209 in main ()
> #16 0x807becd in _start ()
> (gdb) q

I wrote a quick program to dump the results from some of the MOUSE_ ioctl's
on /dev/sysmouse.  Here's the result:

This output was obtained after XFree86 first core dumped -- I logged back
in and ran the test program (fortunately, the cursor happened to come up
positioned over an xterm):

	MOUSE_GETLEVEL ->
		1
	MOUSE_GETHWINFO ->
		10 buttons
		4 iftype
		0 type
		0 hwid
		0 model
	MOUSE_GETMODE ->
		12 protocol
		-1 rate
		-1 resolution
		0 accelfactor
		1 level
		8 packetsize
		0xf8 syncmask[0]
		0x80 syncmask[1]

XF86_SVGA is being invoked by xdm.  There's no obvious errors in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors, just the normal X sign-on messages.
Here's the last session's message from xdm-errors:

> XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
> Release Date: December 29 1998
> 	If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
> 	than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
> 	problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> Operating System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 [ELF] 
> Configured drivers:
>   SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0):
>       NV1, STG2000, RIVA128, RIVATNT, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i,
>       ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a,
>       ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100,
>       et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33,
>       gvga, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215, sis86c225,
>       sis5597, sis5598, sis6326, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b,
>       tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b,
>       tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi,
>       tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685,
>       cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975,
>       3dimage985, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428,
>       clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462,
>       clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541,
>       clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e,
>       cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200,
>       mgag100, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301,
>       ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7,
>       ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_virge,
>       AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097, NM2160,
>       NM2200, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546,
>       ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct65555, ct68554, ct69000, ct64200,
>       ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2x00, p9100, spc8110, generic
> Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
> (using VT number 4)
> 
> XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config
> (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
> (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
> (**) XKB: model: "pc101"
> (**) XKB: layout: "us"
> (**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psm0, buttons: 3
> (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card"
> (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "Primary Monitor"
> (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
> (--) SVGA: PCI: Matrox MGA 2064W rev 1, Memory @ 0xe5800000, 0xe7000000
> (--) SVGA: Linear framebuffer at 0xE7000000
> (--) SVGA: MMIO registers at 0xE5800000
> (--) SVGA: Video BIOS info block at 0x000c7bfc
> (--) SVGA: chipset:  mga2064w
> (--) SVGA: videoram: 4096k
> (**) SVGA: Option "dac_8_bit"
> (**) SVGA: Using 24 bpp, Depth 24, Color weight: 888
> (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 220.000 MHz
> (**) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200": mode clock = 162.000
> (--) SVGA: Insufficient video memory for all resolutions
> (--) SVGA: Removing mode "1600x1200" from list of valid modes.
> (**) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024": mode clock = 135.000
> (**) SVGA: Mode "1152x864": mode clock = 135.000
> (**) SVGA: Mode "1024x768": mode clock =  98.900
> (**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  69.650
> (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock =  45.800
> (**) SVGA: Mode "640x400": mode clock =  31.500
> (**) SVGA: Mode "512x384": mode clock =  22.000
> (**) SVGA: Mode "480x300": mode clock =  29.950
> (**) SVGA: Mode "400x300": mode clock =  25.000
> (**) SVGA: Mode "320x240": mode clock =  15.750
> (**) SVGA: Mode "320x200": mode clock =  12.590
> (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1280x1024
> (--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
> (--) SVGA: MCLK set to 60.000 MHz
> (--) SVGA: Using hardware cursor
> (--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
> (--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles
> (--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy
> (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill
> (--) SVGA: XAA: CPU to screen color expansion (TE/NonTE imagetext, TE/NonTE polytext)
> (--) SVGA: XAA: Using 10 128x68 areas for pixmap caching
> (--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and stipples
> (--) SVGA: XAA: General lines and segments
> (--) SVGA: XAA: Dashed lines and segments
> 
> Fatal server error:
> Caught signal 10.  Server aborting
> 
> 
> When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
> the full server output, not just the last messages

Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

	Mark
	mns@metathink.com



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I had the same problem with Netscape.  Just rebuild XFree86 and make sure
to say yes to building the aout libs.  Netscape can not use the elf lib.
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On 8 May 1999, Eric Jacoboni wrote:

> Hi,
>=20
> I'm using FBSD 3.1-STABLE, cvsuped once a week. I've done a "make
> install" in /usr/ports/www/netscape45-navigator and the software was
> installed without any warning.
>=20
> But, when i try to run netscape, i get a=20
> "ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXt.so.6.0" message...
>=20
> A "locate libXt.so.6.0" gives:=20
>=20
> =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libXt.so.6.0
> =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D
>=20
> I believed this version of Netscape was FBSD native as its name is
> "navigator-v451-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz", so i suppose these
> files are not the ones netscape is searching for...
>=20
> A "ldd navigator-4.5.1.bin" gives:
>=20
> /usr/local/lib/netscape/navigator-4.5.1.bin:
>         -lXt.6 =3D> not found (0x0)
>         -lXmu.6 =3D> not found (0x0)
>         -lXext.6 =3D> not found (0x0)
>         -lX11.6 =3D> not found (0x0)
>         -lSM.6 =3D> not found (0x0)
>         -lICE.6 =3D> not found (0x0)
>         -lg++.4 =3D> /usr/lib/aout/libg++.so.4.0 (0x2067c000)
>         -lm.2 =3D> /usr/lib/aout/libm.so.2.0 (0x206b8000)
>         -lstdc++.2 =3D> /usr/lib/aout/libstdc++.so.2.0 (0x206d2000)
>         -lc.3 =3D> /usr/lib/aout/libc.so.3.1 (0x20708000)
>=20
> And a "locate libXt" gives:
>=20
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.a
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.a
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6.0
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libXt.so.3
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libXt.so.3.1.0
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libXt.so.6
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libXt.so.6.0
>=20
> Seems something is broken in ldconfig, but i don't understand where
> (and why) as others applications such XEmacs run without pb :
>=20
> ldd /usr/local/bin/xemacs gives :
>=20
> /usr/local/bin/xemacs:
>         libXaw.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6 (0x2813f000)
>         libpng.so.3 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3 (0x28174000)
>         libjpeg.so.9 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so.9 (0x2818e000)
>         libXpm.so.4 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x281aa000)
>         libXmu.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x281b7000)
>         libXt.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x281c8000)
>         libXext.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x28206000)
>         libX11.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28210000)
> etc.
>=20
> Thanks in advance...
> --=20
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> =C9ric Jacoboni =AB No sport, cigars! =BB (W. Churchill)
> ---------------------------------------------------------
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|
| Sorry for emailing you, I chose you at random from the FreeBSD mailing
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| A long long time ago I subscribed to the FreeBSD mailing
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|
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On Sat, 8 May 1999, Otto Solares wrote:

> > >Sera entonces que si hace todo esto no puede con
> > >grandes cargas? Sera que es un OS de desktop?
> > >Si ustedes saben de algun otro sistema
> > >operativo que haga todo esto y ademas este creciendo
> > >mas que linux en popularidad
> > ok, so your point is: It doesn=B4t matter if it can handle lots of
> > load, or is a "desktop OS" because linux can do all theese other
> > tings?
>=20
> No, linux can handle a lots of load AND DO this other things, ask
> DejaNews

here's something fun to do on FreeBSD AND Linux, download the latest
version of wine:

ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/ALPHA/wine/development/Wine-990426.tar.gz

unpack it, run configure, run "gmake -j" walk away...

you might want to set TMPDIR=3D$HOME/tmp or something...

As far as your previous posts on clustering Linux for large ray-tracing
applications... That's very nice, but it's not that amazing of an
accomplishment, most of these supercomputer type applications do not
stress the OS, they just spin a lot of CPU cycles, no real load is
being put on the boxes.

> > Who cares about reliability anyway?
>=20
> Don't think so:
>=20
>     Domain : RIPE+.edu
>      DName  : ---------
>      Service: ftp+news+www
>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      Date   : April `99
>=20
>=20
>   Host OS recognized (grouped, sorted)    01/99  %recog      04/99 =20
> %recog  +/-%  =20
>   ------------------------------------  -------  ------    -------=20
> -------  ----  =20
>             1.(   )              Linux   287093    28.5     399748   =20
> 31.3  +2.8  =20
>                                                                          =
 =20
> ^^^^^^
>             4.(   )         BSD Family   150961    15.0     186385   =20
> 14.6  -0.4=20
>                                                                          =
 =20
> ^^^^^^ =20
>=20
> So, all this people don't care about realiability for servers not to
> mention desktop?
> So because is very unreliable is gaining more server share than *BSD?

It's been hyped up much more.  Windows probably has a 10 times greater
audiance on the desktop, does that make it _better_?  Be fair.

You can't have it both ways.

> I don't want a flame war. And my real point is that linux is a very good
> OS.
> So don't miss this point, if you think that attacking linux your OS will
> get
> more acceptance you are wrong. The FreeBSD community got a lot to win if
> linux
> win. What i think about FreeBSD? Ok, a good OS, certainly i will not
> take off my
> linux boxes for FreeBSD, although i work with FreeBSD servers at work :)

oh really? :)

>=20
> I think is better now to think how to make FreeBSD to not loose more
> server
> share than attack linux with FUD.
>=20
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> microsofish ahh? ;)

er, yeah, running on FreeBSD webservers....

Linux is a fine OS, my preference is FreeBSD, I just wish you'd stop=20
ranting and flaming people on the FreeBSD advocacy list.  You're like
the AOLers on alt.tasteless that say, "eww, ick, gross!" =20

This just isn't the best place for Linux evangilism.  Many of us have
been burned by Linux in the past and are not its biggest fans.

thanks,
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If you're going to puke out a pissing contest into a help forum, at
least have the common courtesy to do so in what that forum considers to
be the official language - namely ENGLISH.

Better yet, (ooh, here's a concept), don't DO IT AT ALL. Enough.
Linux vs. NT vs. 95 vs. Novell vs. FreeBSD (let's drag Solaris, Minix,
Ultrix, HP-UX, AIX, Digital UNIX, IRIX, and BeOS into this, while we're
at it).

Pick an OS that does what you want it to do and does it well. If it does
not work for YOU, YOU change the OS. You do NOT become
Computer-Christian and try to convert everyone. (No, I am not picking on
Christianity, so flame /dev/null).

If you don't like FreeBSD/Linux/<Insert an OS here>, don't use it.
Simple. Now go away and let us deal with NAT, sound cards, networking,
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"Grifter" writes:
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> 
> 	In my case i have connected this chip to a remote control car and by
> sending data through the comport at 2400BPS i can navigate the car.  I used
> to run linux and had the car working (not verywell but working).  Anyway im
> looking for a way to access the comports at 2400BPS from a perl appliction
> i have written to allow the car to be driven from the net.
> 
> 
> i have read that i can open the comport like a file but how do i set
> parity,baudrate, stopbits, startbits etc....  Are there any examples that i
> could look at or any help files i can use? or hell just someone out there
> willing to help?

I'm not good a perl, but "man stty" will tell you all about how to set 
and read serial port speed and the like. Open the port in perl first, 
then exec(), system(), or whatever, the stty command.

"man sio" for more details about the serial port driver and the 
meanings/functions of the various serial port names.

"man termios" and "man comcontrol" will also be helpful.


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Alfred Perlstein writes:
> On Fri, 7 May 1999, David Abdemoulaie wrote:
> =

> > How do I make a link to a directory? I have tried using ln but it onl=
y
> > seems to be able to link files
> =

> you need to use symbolic links, "man ln" the -s option is your friend.

Don't just tell him that he can't make hard links, tell him why:

The ability to make hard links to directories is restricted to root =

because fsck(8) would get confused if a directory didn't have exactly =

the right number of hard links to it.

A really fun thing I like to do is to create symbolic links to =

directories on other servers. For instance this shares the distfile =

directory on PeeCee (assuming amd(8) is running):

% cd /usr/ports
% ln -s /host/PeeCee/usr/ports/distfiles distfiles

The really nice thing about the above is the remote filesystem is =

automatically mounted when needed. Then later umounted.

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Daniel Haischt writes:
> HIYA
> 
> I know why I'm doing the hard way.
> I tried apache-php3 from the ports collection.
> 
> But first of all there arent all I'm looking for and as I tried to
> edit the Makefile.inc (generated by the port temporarily)
> I was only able to activate the --with-oracle option
> but not the --with-xml option.
> 
> Finally I dont wanna type make, wait until php3 generates
> the Makefile.inc and the type <controll><C> for editing this file.

That's not the way to do it. Type "make patch" and it will stop without
compiling a thing.

> At least this port dont comes with mod_perl and JServ and the
> MM-shred-memory-library so I even hav to do lots of stuff manually. So way
> wont doing the hard way from the very begining.

You do whatever you want to do. But "make patch" as I described earlier 
will build a *good* source directory to start as your baseline.

Otherwise you can start looking in /usr/ports/www/apache13*/patches to 
see what others have decided needs changing in apache for FreeBSD use.


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At 04:52 PM 5/8/1999 , Christopher Michaels wrote:
>Is there a SOCKS 5 proxy server available for FreeBSD?  I searched through
>the ports at www.FreeBSD.org and only came up with a client and a perl
>module.

Yes. See my reply to "ICQ Behind NAT (Was: question about 2 subnets on the
same switch.)".

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At 01:06 PM 5/8/1999 , Christopher Michaels wrote:
>Pardon my intrusion, but why is this so problematic?  I've been running ICQ
>behind my firewall w/o any apparent problems.  Maybe I just haven't noticed
>them.
>
>Also, on that note, what SOCKS proxy would you recommend?
>
>-Chris

It's the way the ICQ protocol is. I don't know anything more technical than
that.
As for why you haven't noticed... have you ever had problems with 1)
sending messages to someone else (something like `can't connected directly
to user`), 2) not seeing someone else in a chat or being unable to start a
chat, 3) file transfers not getting through. Oftentimes, it takes a person
on the other end to also have a firewall in order to notice these problems.

I've always used the SOCKS5 proxy from www.socks.nec.com. There's also a
port for NEC's socks5, but the last time I checked (few weeks ago), the
port was one version behind (v1.09 is current versus v1.08 for the port).
The distfile for 1.08 is also no longer available. Installing NEC's socks
from their tarball isn't very difficult. It's not much more than the
standard "configure && make && make install" process.

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I discovered this morning that I had 2 open telnet connections from my
box to another local machine. (I was called out last night and forgot to
close
them before I left). Today I've been searching several resources for a
way to enable some type of timeout mechanism so the connection is
disconnected by the host after a period of idleness (I'm thinking 60
minutes
at the moment).

There seems nothing appropriate in the handbook, and the closest thing
I've
found is in "man telnetd" under the -n option to disable tcp
keep-alives.
But my reading of this is its not what I want and I can't see how to set
the
time period.

Would someone be able to point me in the right direction?

Cheers
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On Sun, 09 May 1999 at 11:56:40 +1000, lore wrote:
> I discovered this morning that I had 2 open telnet connections from
> my box to another local machine. (I was called out last night and
> forgot to close them before I left). Today I've been searching
> several resources for a way to enable some type of timeout mechanism
> so the connection is disconnected by the host after a period of
> idleness (I'm thinking 60 minutes at the moment).

Take a look at /usr/ports/sysutils/idled.

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Hi, I just installed eterm via ftp from ftp.freebsd.org.. It seemed to
have installed fine, all the depencies as well... I've never used eterm
before.. How do I run it? eterm doesn't work, I have no clue where it
could be
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You've probably already done this - so if you have, just ignore me.

Have you tried doing a:
find / -name "eterm"   (or "eterm*")

Cheers
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Raven wrote:

> Hi, I just installed eterm via ftp from ftp.freebsd.org.. It seemed to
> have installed fine, all the depencies as well... I've never used eterm
> before.. How do I run it? eterm doesn't work, I have no clue where it
> could be




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On Sat, 08 May 1999 at 22:20:45 -0400, Raven wrote:
> Hi, I just installed eterm via ftp from ftp.freebsd.org.. It seemed
> to have installed fine, all the depencies as well... I've never used
> eterm before.. How do I run it? eterm doesn't work, I have no clue
> where it could be

The binary is Eterm, not eterm (note the 'E').  See 'man Eterm' for
the available options.

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Steve Price wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 8 May 1999, Donald Wilde wrote:
> 
> # The README on Disk1 claims there are NO packages on Disk1, Disk3 and
> # Disk4 have the same README. If Disk1 has the 3.1 Packages, then its
> # README is flawed.
> 
> The packages on disc1 are the "must have, can't wait til after
> the first reboot" ELF packages for the 3.x and 4.x i386 snapshots.
> They were stuck on there towards the end of the cycle, because
> we had a few spare bits left and my impromptu poll on the ports
> mailing list showed that these were among the ones that people
> said they couldn't live without.  I see that it says there are no

Yes, I see it's a really minimal set. Not even EMACS, you grizzled old
UNIXheads!!! <sorry, couldn't resist...>

> packages, and all I can think of was that we missed making the
> correction.  Though it might have been left that way, to keep
> people from trying to install ELF packages while using the 2.2.8
> snapshot that's there.  Should we amend the README or post an
> ERRATA on the website somewhere?

I went to the website, and saw nothing anywhere. I would suggest that --
in fine old UNIX tradition -- we make the ERRATA listings a little more
prominent in either the docs or support (or both) sections for each of
the disk sets.
> 
> Unless the READMEs have changed from the ones up on bento then the
> first part of disc3's says:
> 
>     "This CDROM contains the latest distfiles (for /usr/ports) for
>      the 2.2-STABLE branch and up as well as packages for the 2.2
>      branch which were produced after 2.2.8 was released.  The
>      packages may also be used in later (3.x and 4.x) releases with
>      the compat22 distribution loaded."

It appears that we will be stuck with loading a.out compatibility for
some time. I don't mind using ports rather than packages, but then I'm
not running into disk space limits. I've also run into some binary
software (e.g. Blender) which I had to use their static-linked a.out
version.
> 
> Discs [345] are exclusively for 2.2-STABLE, though some of the same
> distfiles are required for 3.x and 4.x, and as it says you can use
> a.out packages on the later releases if you have the a.out libraries
> (compat22) installed.
> 
Gee, Brett Glass should be thrilled. All the latest 2.2 upgrades in one
place...

> The only 3.1 bits on the Toolkit CDs besides the snapshots and a
> few packages on disc1 are the contents of disc6, which represent
> all of the distfiles that couldn't fit on the 3.1-RELEASE CDs.
> 

Thanks for taking the time to check, Steve. Other than the one omission,
the disks and the READMEs do say this, albeit in very terse fashion. To
be honest with you, I think the Toolkit set is somewhat limited in
utility for someone here in the US who has a measure of speed in his
Internet connection. If I were in Ukraine or Zimbabwe or someplace like
that, I'd be thrilled to have it, but it doesn't make sense for me to
use it as a system install set if I have to refer back to the old 3.1-R
set for packages I want. Unless I misunderstand, and the 3.1-R packages
are a mixture? I know I've had at least one a.out/ELF compatibility
problem, but it was a port. (socket++)
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Ahh, thanks.. there's a new problem now.. when I type Eterm I get the
following error message. If anyone could help thanks

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libEterm.so.8.7" not found


Jim Mock wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 08 May 1999 at 22:20:45 -0400, Raven wrote:
> > Hi, I just installed eterm via ftp from ftp.freebsd.org.. It seemed
> > to have installed fine, all the depencies as well... I've never used
> > eterm before.. How do I run it? eterm doesn't work, I have no clue
> > where it could be
> 
> The binary is Eterm, not eterm (note the 'E').  See 'man Eterm' for
> the available options.
> 
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On Sat, 8 May 1999, Donald Wilde wrote:

#> The packages on disc1 are the "must have, can't wait til after
#> the first reboot" ELF packages for the 3.x and 4.x i386 snapshots.
# 
# Yes, I see it's a really minimal set. Not even EMACS, you grizzled old
# UNIXheads!!! <sorry, couldn't resist...>

Emacs is usually the first thing I install after I reboot for
the first time on a fresh install.  However, the packages that
are there were supposed to represent only those ports that you
_couldn't_ wait to install _after_ the first reboot.

# I went to the website, and saw nothing anywhere. I would suggest that --
# in fine old UNIX tradition -- we make the ERRATA listings a little more
# prominent in either the docs or support (or both) sections for each of
# the disk sets.

Did I just hear you volunteer? :-)

#> Discs [345] are exclusively for 2.2-STABLE, though some of the same
#> distfiles are required for 3.x and 4.x, and as it says you can use
#> a.out packages on the later releases if you have the a.out libraries
#> (compat22) installed.
#> 
# Gee, Brett Glass should be thrilled. All the latest 2.2 upgrades in one
# place...

Did we play into one of his memes? :-)

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System commander is designed to let me place complete partitions for any
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On Sun, 9 May 1999, lore wrote:

> I discovered this morning that I had 2 open telnet connections from my
> box to another local machine. (I was called out last night and forgot to
> close
> them before I left). Today I've been searching several resources for a
> way to enable some type of timeout mechanism so the connection is
> disconnected by the host after a period of idleness (I'm thinking 60
> minutes
> at the moment).
> 
> There seems nothing appropriate in the handbook, and the closest thing
> I've
> found is in "man telnetd" under the -n option to disable tcp
> keep-alives.
> But my reading of this is its not what I want and I can't see how to set
> the
> time period.
>
> Would someone be able to point me in the right direction?

cd /usr/ports/sysutils/idled/

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You can change your shell to tcsh, comes with inactivity timeouts enabled
by defualt, plus has a lot of other nice features. Not sure about csh and
the others...


At 11:56 AM 5/9/99 +1000, lore wrote:
>I discovered this morning that I had 2 open telnet connections from my
>box to another local machine. (I was called out last night and forgot to
>close
>them before I left). Today I've been searching several resources for a
>way to enable some type of timeout mechanism so the connection is
>disconnected by the host after a period of idleness (I'm thinking 60
>minutes
>at the moment).
>
>There seems nothing appropriate in the handbook, and the closest thing
>I've
>found is in "man telnetd" under the -n option to disable tcp
>keep-alives.
>But my reading of this is its not what I want and I can't see how to set
>the
>time period.
>
>Would someone be able to point me in the right direction?
>
>Cheers
>Loren
>
>
>
>
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Well i hope someone has the time to take a look at this. Im fairly new with
BSD, but here's my prob.
   I am trying to build a new kernal in FreeBSD 3.1 to support my sound
card (Yamaha OPL2 which from what i see is basicly a sb16). 
        Question one is which device should i enter into the kernal on
controller snd0...sbxvi0 or opl0?.
        2)when i tried to MAKEDEV snd0 in /dev/, it seems as though it was
made, but doesn't appear in the /dev/
        3)when running config MYKERNAL1, i get a "did you for get to make
depend". 
        4)Well simply the kernal doesn't compile because it can't find vnode.h
Sorry about the long list. They are probably dumb questions. 
Any help is greatly apreciated. I've attached a copy of the kernal.
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat May  8 21:34:48 1999
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On Fri, 7 May 1999, Wolverine wrote:

> i hope you can help me. if i have a user that has a home of
> /home/www/www.hydro-power.net as their startup home directory. it is
> this way so when they ftp in they right to their web pages. (see below
> for tree). is there any way to make it so that once in that directory
> the user CAN NOT go up a previous level (like back to www directory.)
> so he cant see or enter any other users directory.

Install wu-ftpd then read the man page section on guestgroup.  Or buy
NcFTPD, which handles this a bit cleaner.

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i have been trying to do a right installation of the '3.1 stable version' of 
freeBSD which i got throught FTP form ftp3.fr.frebsd.org
well installation from a dos partition is my choice but this does not
seem to be a good thing to do because the installation program CAN NOT find 
the distribution files on the HDD although i did put the files in the same 
directory structure by which they were downloaded and included every thing 
in a directory called freebsd on the root of drive c:
my H/W cofiguration is :
-K6-233 ANR
-Atrend ATC-5050 mother board
-64 MB of Ram
-540 MB HDD ,i am using an old seagate st3660a operating in LBA mode
-Acer peripherals CD-ROM 24Xmax
-S3 vierge display adapter
-yamaha opl/3 sax sound board
i tried about three times to use different options but .......
i would be gratefull if you would tip me off what to do to get thing
working the right way
please reply to bessa310@hotmail.com
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HIYA AGAIN

Am So , 09 Mai 1999 schrieben Sie:
> 
> That's not the way to do it. Type "make patch" and it will stop without
> compiling a thing.

Oh OK, I didnt knew that so I'll give it a try and hope it'll biuld
successfully.
(Mabe I should invest mor time in FreeBSD to know stuff like 'make patch' ;-))  

> You do whatever you want to do. But "make patch" as I described earlier 
> will build a *good* source directory to start as your baseline.

Yea ok, I only had the feeling that the libcIntsh.so library (coming from
Oracle8.0.5.1) causes conflicts  with other system libraries.

But that may be a question for the database list ...

> Otherwise you can start looking in /usr/ports/www/apache13*/patches to 
> see what others have decided needs changing in apache for FreeBSD use. 

I didnt found there what I nedd (u know --with-xml + --with-oracle for php3 and
JServ for Apache and the other stuff)

Anyway thx alot!

P.S Do you think the compilation err comes from a not propper working linux
emulator cause Oracle8 needs a glibc environment ...

> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net
> =====================================================================
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I've got the kern and mfsroot floppies built. What do I do next?

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Yes, they are supported.  However, you probably need
to recompile the kernel to get the soundcard working.

BTW, please don't write your mail in HTML.  Most
of the people on this list won't reply HTML e-mails.

Hope this helps.

Frankie


George Porrata wrote:

> Hi! I am a newbee Unix developer and would like to develop on FreeBSD
> for it's performance & scalability as a web server and as a end-user
> workstation. I am doing R&D on a Gateway Performance 500 and I have
> questions as to whether FreeBSD will support it's hardware. Can the OS
> utilize its: 1.128 RAM?2.13.5GB 7200RPM Ultra ATA hard drive with UATA
> 66 Controller / UDMA 66?3.STB Velocity 4400 / 16M nVidia Riva TNT
> Graphics Adapter?4.DVD ROM ?5.Multifunction keyboard?6.Integrated
> Sound Blaster AudioPCI 64D & Boston Acoustics BA735 Digital Speakers
> w/Subwoofer?7.PIII/500? I looked at your hardware compatibility list
> and it didn't mention any of the items above. If it doesn't are there
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On Sat, 08 May 1999 at 23:27:50 -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
> I've got the kern and mfsroot floppies built. What do I do next?

Read http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html then follow the
on-screen instructions at the install menu.
 
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Well when I was supporting BSD 4.2 and BSD 2.9 on VAX and PDPs, toor was
used to get quickly into the system.  On these slower machines (or when
there was a run away process) toor would start Bourne shell and you
could get logged in faster than starting up csh.  It might take 2-3
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So the main difference between the two is which shell gets started.

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Hi,

Anybody has performance numbers for Samba on FreeBSD? I am getting only
about 300KB/sec on write (10MBit/s Ethernet; 21041 cards on both ends).

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Hi,
I have FreeBSD 3.1 that came with gcc-2.7.1,
yesterday i installed egcs-1.1.1 from ports.

Q1. What do I do to turn ON optimization for pentium ?
   
i compiled my kernel with egcs, it's smaller now and seems to run
faster.
i compiled /usr/src/bin with egcs so

Q2. why /bin/cat compiled with egcs is _bigger_ than /bin/cat ?
    is it Ok ? what did I miss ?

Q3. why 'man cc' says me about gcc-2.7.1 ?

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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anybody has performance numbers for Samba on FreeBSD? I am getting only
> about 300KB/sec on write (10MBit/s Ethernet; 21041 cards on both ends).

have you tried any of the suggested options such as "read prediction"
and raw write/read?  they are documented in the manpages...

what's the best you get between 2 windows hosts on your ethernet?

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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> > Anybody has performance numbers for Samba on FreeBSD? I am getting only
> > about 300KB/sec on write (10MBit/s Ethernet; 21041 cards on both ends).
> 
> have you tried any of the suggested options such as "read prediction"
> and raw write/read?  they are documented in the manpages...

I did not try them. The default for "write raw" is yes; "read prediction"
is obsolete and does not work in Samba 2.0. I did not build Samba, took it
from precompiled packages. smb.conf is straight from my previous Linux
installation except one option to lpr which caused me much grief when I
was wondering why damn thing does not want to print.
 
> what's the best you get between 2 windows hosts on your ethernet?

Over 900KB/sec. FTP from the Samba server reaches 1MB/sec. (KB and MB are
1000 and 1000000 bytes here, for simplicity).

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On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:31:17PM -0700, bveis@ee.calpoly.edu wrote:
> Well i hope someone has the time to take a look at
> this. Im fairly new with > BSD, but here's my prob.
> 
> I am trying to build a new kernal in FreeBSD 3.1 to
> support my sound card (Yamaha OPL2 which from what i
> see is basicly a sb16). 
> 
> Question one is which device should i enter into the
> kernal on controller snd0...sbxvi0 or opl0?.
> 

Try using pcm0 (comment out all the snd0 and *all* the sb* stuff).
This is what I use for my OPL2 card. Note the midi isn't supported
in the pcm0 driver.

> 2)when i tried to MAKEDEV snd0 in /dev/, it seems as
>   though it was made, but doesn't appear in the /dev/
> 
> 3)when running config MYKERNAL1, i get a "did you
>   for get to make depend". 
> 

Maybe you did. The correct sequence is:


	cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
	/usr/sbin/config MYKERNAL1
	cd ../../compile/MYKERNAL1
	make depend
	make
	make install


> 4)Well simply the kernal doesn't compile because it
>   can't find vnode.h
> 

It should be in /usr/src/sys/sys. If it isn't then you've not
installed the kernel sources. If it is, then you probably didn't
run ``make depend''.

HTH

> Sorry about the long list. They are probably dumb
> questions. Any help is greatly apreciated. I've attached
> a copy of the kernal.
>         please respond to bveis@ee.calpoly.edu



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Hi,
 I recently purchased a new machine and after installing 3.1-RELEASE, i
find i can't get my Creative PCI64 sound card to work. I have searched the
mailing list archives, and one message suggesting the use of the pcm
driver actually detected the card, but it does not actually work.

I even tried the snd0 driver, but it does not detect the card even with
the same settings that work under win98/Dos.

Has anyone else who has one of these cards actually managed to get it to
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Michael Slater wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  I recently purchased a new machine and after installing 3.1-RELEASE, i
> find i can't get my Creative PCI64 sound card to work. I have searched the
> mailing list archives, and one message suggesting the use of the pcm
> driver actually detected the card, but it does not actually work.
> 
> I even tried the snd0 driver, but it does not detect the card even with
> the same settings that work under win98/Dos.
> 
> Has anyone else who has one of these cards actually managed to get it to
> work ?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Michael Slater
> 
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I have never tried it with the default drivers, but it works fine under
OSS.
http://www.4front-tech.com/


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> Q1. What do I do to turn ON optimization for pentium ?

I'm not sure that egcs has any specific pentium optimisation flags.  You
might want to look at pentium gcc (pgcc) which does have some specific
pentium optimisations.

> i compiled my kernel with egcs, it's smaller now and seems to run
> faster.
> i compiled /usr/src/bin with egcs so
> 
> Q2. why /bin/cat compiled with egcs is _bigger_ than /bin/cat ?
>     is it Ok ? what did I miss ?

Err you used a different compiler, you shouldn't be surprised that the 
exectuable sizes may be slightly different.

> Q3. why 'man cc' says me about gcc-2.7.1 ?

Check your MANPATH variable.  This is the path searched for manual pages by
man.  You'll find that the man page for the system cc occurs earlier in
this path.

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On a side note:
I heard somewhere that the Mircosoft IP stack includes NetBios information
in it=B4s TCP/IP headers ( //Computernames and so on) and that this is why
you can "browse the network" even if there=B4s no NetBeui on your=20
windows box.

I haven=B4t disassembeled any packets to see if it is true though.

Best Regads
John

On Sat, 8 May 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:

> HUH?!  What in the world makes you think you can't browse w/o NetBEUI?  A=
ll
> NetBEUI is, is a protocol, such as IPX and TCP/IP.  They are interchangea=
ble
> at that level and have nothing to do with browsing.  I happen to
> intentionally not install NETBEUI on my windoze (95/98) machines and only
> have TCP/IP, browsing works just fine (why have multiple protocols when t=
hey
> aren't needed? less overhead I say).  Browsing is determined more by subn=
ets
> and wins servers and the like.
>=20
> Now down to the original question...
>=20
> Are the Samba / win98 / NT machines all on the ip subnet and all in the s=
ame
> workgroup/domain?
> What type of machine is the "master browser", NT server?
> Can you manually connect to the FreeBSD machine from the NT machines, e.g=
.
> using NET USE \\MACHINE\SHARE ?
>=20
> -Chris
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:=09Kent Stewart [SMTP:kstewart@3-cities.com]
> > Sent:=09Monday, May 03, 1999 3:05 PM
> > To:=09Wayne Shiver
> > Cc:=09freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject:=09Re: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine
> >=20
> > I assume you are running SAMBA. Win 9x usually chooses to setup
> > NETBEUI. That is an add-in option on NT that most serious networks
> > choose to leave out. You can end up with broadcast storms when your NT
> > servers have NETBEUI  installed. You can't browse without NETBEUI. You
> > can, however, connect by using \\netbeui-name\share. Then, you don't
> > have the overhead of NETBEUI on your NT servers and the serious
> > side-effects. I think I have netbios over tcp/ip, which is the default
> > I think, but it has been a few months since I had to tinker with my NT
> > machines. I am trying different configurations on FreeBSD and mostly
> > telnet to the FreeBSD system. I don't want them running SAMBA.
> >=20
> > Kent
> >=20
> > Wayne Shiver wrote:
> > >=20
> > > For some strange reason I can see freebsd machines in Windows 98 but =
not
> > > on any of our NT workstations or servers. Does anyone no how to get
> > > around this problem?
> > >=20
> > > Wayne
> > >=20
> > --=20
> > Kent Stewart
> > Richland, WA
> >=20
> > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com
> > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html
>=20
>=20
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Steve Price wrote:
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> On Sat, 8 May 1999, Donald Wilde wrote:

> # I went to the website, and saw nothing anywhere. I would suggest that --
> # in fine old UNIX tradition -- we make the ERRATA listings a little more
> # prominent in either the docs or support (or both) sections for each of
> # the disk sets.
> 
> Did I just hear you volunteer? :-)
> 
I'm finishing up a replacement for features.html for Jordan now. Will
consider the suggestion, but right now I'm in a mad scramble to put
bread on table. :-(

> #> Discs [345] are exclusively for 2.2-STABLE, though some of the same
> #> distfiles are required for 3.x and 4.x, and as it says you can use
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> #>
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> # place...
> 
> Did we play into one of his memes? :-)
> 
Memes are larger than even his ego.

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Hi,

I have used sendmail previously on redhat and was able to adjust some files
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In freebsd where would i do this.

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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> > > Anybody has performance numbers for Samba on FreeBSD? I am getting only
> > > about 300KB/sec on write (10MBit/s Ethernet; 21041 cards on both ends).
> > 
> > have you tried any of the suggested options such as "read prediction"
> > and raw write/read?  they are documented in the manpages...
> 
> I did not try them. The default for "write raw" is yes; "read prediction"
> is obsolete and does not work in Samba 2.0. I did not build Samba, took it
> from precompiled packages. smb.conf is straight from my previous Linux
> installation except one option to lpr which caused me much grief when I
> was wondering why damn thing does not want to print.
>  
> > what's the best you get between 2 windows hosts on your ethernet?
> 
> Over 900KB/sec. FTP from the Samba server reaches 1MB/sec. (KB and MB are
> 1000 and 1000000 bytes here, for simplicity).

Tuning samba is a bit tricky, there are some socket options you may want
to turn on, read more docs and experiment, you may also want to compile 
it yourself looking at all the options available.

Was performance this bad under Linux as well?

-Alfred




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Rick Knebel wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have used sendmail previously on redhat and was able to adjust some files
> in /etc/mail on who I would allow to relay.
> 
> In freebsd where would i do this.
> 

check 'man sendmail'.  The config file for sendmail is
/etc/sendmail.cf. 
 
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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> > > > Anybody has performance numbers for Samba on FreeBSD? I am getting only
> > > > about 300KB/sec on write (10MBit/s Ethernet; 21041 cards on both ends).
> > > 
> > > have you tried any of the suggested options such as "read prediction"
> > > and raw write/read?  they are documented in the manpages...
> > 
> > I did not try them. The default for "write raw" is yes; "read prediction"
> > is obsolete and does not work in Samba 2.0. I did not build Samba, took it
> > from precompiled packages. smb.conf is straight from my previous Linux
> > installation except one option to lpr which caused me much grief when I
> > was wondering why damn thing does not want to print.
> >  
> > > what's the best you get between 2 windows hosts on your ethernet?
> > 
> > Over 900KB/sec. FTP from the Samba server reaches 1MB/sec. (KB and MB are
> > 1000 and 1000000 bytes here, for simplicity).
> 
> Tuning samba is a bit tricky, there are some socket options you may want
> to turn on, read more docs and experiment, you may also want to compile 
> it yourself looking at all the options available.

Weird. It should work out of the box.

> Was performance this bad under Linux as well?

Of course not (that is why I am asking). I don't recall exact numbers, but
I was certainly getting well over 500KB/sec. And read performance is
reasonable (about 900KB/sec). On local writes I get about 2.3MB/sec which
looks close to hard drive performance.

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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Fadi Sodah wrote:

> > I have used sendmail previously on redhat and was able to adjust some files
> > in /etc/mail on who I would allow to relay.
> > 
> > In freebsd where would i do this.
> > 
> 
> check 'man sendmail'.  The config file for sendmail is
> /etc/sendmail.cf. 

No, create /etc/mail/relay-domains and put there domain names you want to
relay. Just like in RedHat; sendmail is the same on Linux and FreeBSD. See
FAQ on www.sendmail.com if you need more information about that.

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When I boot, named and samba startup, then for 3 days, samba doesn't
work, on the third day, named quits and samba starts working just
fine, when I restart named, it stops and when I try to kill named
after that, (before it quits on the 3rd day) I get errors like this:

date&time hostname named[pid]: database.filename:2:Database error ()
date&time hostname named[pid]: database.filename:3:Database error ()
date&time hostname named[pid]: database.filename:4:Database error ()
date&time hostname named[pid]: database.filename:5:Database error ()
date&time hostname named[pid]: database.filename:6:Database error ()
date&time hostname named[pid]: Zone "my.domain" (file
database.filename)
: no SOA RR found
date&time hostname named[pid]: master zone "my.domain" (IN) rejected
due
to errors (serial 0)
date&time hostname named[pid]: Ready to answer queries.

thanks



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If you really want to know how it works, a good book is actually "Samba ,
Integrating UNIX and Windows" by John Blair.  He is one of the developers on
the samba team (I believe).

The NetBIOS stuff does get set over the TCP/IP, but basically the browsing
is achieved by a bunch of broadcast messages on the netbois port, that's why
it doesn't work across subnets, unless you have a WINS server, but that's
another issue.

-Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: John K [mailto:john@volvo.se]
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 1999 8:53 AM
To: Christopher Michaels
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine



On a side note:
I heard somewhere that the Mircosoft IP stack includes NetBios information
in itīs TCP/IP headers ( //Computernames and so on) and that this is why
you can "browse the network" even if thereīs no NetBeui on your
windows box.

I havenīt disassembeled any packets to see if it is true though.

Best Regads
John

On Sat, 8 May 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:

> HUH?!  What in the world makes you think you can't browse w/o NetBEUI?
All
> NetBEUI is, is a protocol, such as IPX and TCP/IP.  They are
interchangeable
> at that level and have nothing to do with browsing.  I happen to
> intentionally not install NETBEUI on my windoze (95/98) machines and only
> have TCP/IP, browsing works just fine (why have multiple protocols when
they
> aren't needed? less overhead I say).  Browsing is determined more by
subnets
> and wins servers and the like.
>
> Now down to the original question...
>
> Are the Samba / win98 / NT machines all on the ip subnet and all in the
same
> workgroup/domain?
> What type of machine is the "master browser", NT server?
> Can you manually connect to the FreeBSD machine from the NT machines, e.g.
> using NET USE \\MACHINE\SHARE ?
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Kent Stewart [SMTP:kstewart@3-cities.com]
> > Sent:	Monday, May 03, 1999 3:05 PM
> > To:	Wayne Shiver
> > Cc:	freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject:	Re: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine
> >
> > I assume you are running SAMBA. Win 9x usually chooses to setup
> > NETBEUI. That is an add-in option on NT that most serious networks
> > choose to leave out. You can end up with broadcast storms when your NT
> > servers have NETBEUI  installed. You can't browse without NETBEUI. You
> > can, however, connect by using \\netbeui-name\share. Then, you don't
> > have the overhead of NETBEUI on your NT servers and the serious
> > side-effects. I think I have netbios over tcp/ip, which is the default
> > I think, but it has been a few months since I had to tinker with my NT
> > machines. I am trying different configurations on FreeBSD and mostly
> > telnet to the FreeBSD system. I don't want them running SAMBA.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> > Wayne Shiver wrote:
> > >
> > > For some strange reason I can see freebsd machines in Windows 98 but
not
> > > on any of our NT workstations or servers. Does anyone no how to get
> > > around this problem?
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > >
> > --
> > Kent Stewart
> > Richland, WA
> >
> > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com
> > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html
>
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Or you can edit the lmhosts file, instead of installing WINS...

>it doesn't work across subnets, unless you have a WINS server, but that's
>another issue.
>
>-Chris
>

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On Sat, 8 May 1999, sherif bassionni wrote:

> i have been trying to do a right installation of the '3.1 stable version' of 
> freeBSD which i got throught FTP form ftp3.fr.frebsd.org
> well installation from a dos partition is my choice but this does not
> seem to be a good thing to do because the installation program CAN NOT find 
> the distribution files on the HDD although i did put the files in the same 
> directory structure by which they were downloaded and included every thing 
> in a directory called freebsd on the root of drive c:
> my H/W cofiguration is :
> -K6-233 ANR
> -Atrend ATC-5050 mother board
> -64 MB of Ram
> -540 MB HDD ,i am using an old seagate st3660a operating in LBA mode
> -Acer peripherals CD-ROM 24Xmax
> -S3 vierge display adapter
> -yamaha opl/3 sax sound board
> i tried about three times to use different options but .......
> i would be gratefull if you would tip me off what to do to get thing
> working the right way
> please reply to bessa310@hotmail.com
> thank you anyway

When running into installation or configuration problems on a release
first check the ERRATA.TXT for that release.  The following is from

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.1-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT

<clip>
o  DOS installation fails when you actually follow the instructions
   to install stuff under C:\FREEBSD\BIN\... and so on.

Fix: The instructions are correct but the code was wrong in 3.1-RELEASE,
     sysinstall looking instead directly under C:\ (e.g. C:\BIN\...)
     or under C:\RELEASES\ (C:\RELEASES\BIN\... and so on).  Fixed
     in 3.1-STABLE.
</clip>

-- 
Regards,
Kevin G. Eliuk
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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> > > > > Anybody has performance numbers for Samba on FreeBSD? I am getting only
> > > > > about 300KB/sec on write (10MBit/s Ethernet; 21041 cards on both ends).
> > > > 
> > > > have you tried any of the suggested options such as "read prediction"
> > > > and raw write/read?  they are documented in the manpages...
> > > 
> > > I did not try them. The default for "write raw" is yes; "read prediction"
> > > is obsolete and does not work in Samba 2.0. I did not build Samba, took it
> > > from precompiled packages. smb.conf is straight from my previous Linux
> > > installation except one option to lpr which caused me much grief when I
> > > was wondering why damn thing does not want to print.
> > >  
> > > > what's the best you get between 2 windows hosts on your ethernet?
> > > 
> > > Over 900KB/sec. FTP from the Samba server reaches 1MB/sec. (KB and MB are
> > > 1000 and 1000000 bytes here, for simplicity).
> > 
> > Tuning samba is a bit tricky, there are some socket options you may want
> > to turn on, read more docs and experiment, you may also want to compile 
> > it yourself looking at all the options available.
> 
> Weird. It should work out of the box.
> 
> > Was performance this bad under Linux as well?
> 
> Of course not (that is why I am asking). I don't recall exact numbers, but
> I was certainly getting well over 500KB/sec. And read performance is
> reasonable (about 900KB/sec). On local writes I get about 2.3MB/sec which
> looks close to hard drive performance.

please, if possible post your machine's hardware configuration, there
are several tuning tips people never do that may be hindering performance
if you can give me this information I may be able to help more...

cpu, disk type, ram, etc...

if you are using IDE disks, i recommed you try to change the "flags"
parameter to 0xa0ffa0ff and see if that helps, this will enable DMA
on your hardrives.

-Alfred



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> well installation from a dos partition is my choice but this does not
> seem to be a good thing to do because the installation program CAN NOT find 
> the distribution files on the HDD although i did put the files in the same 
> directory structure by which they were downloaded and included every thing 
> in a directory called freebsd on the root of drive c:

	I think you're supposed to put each of the directories into the 
root. I.e. /freebsd/bin should be /bin

					Rick


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> I've got the kern and mfsroot floppies built. What do I do next?

	Put the kern.flp disk into the drive. Turn off the computer. Turn 
it on and follow the instructions. Check out 
www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html for precise instructions.

						Rick


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> On a side note:
> I heard somewhere that the Mircosoft IP stack includes NetBios informatio=
n
> in it=B4s TCP/IP headers ( //Computernames and so on) and that this is wh=
y
> you can "browse the network" even if there=B4s no NetBeui on your=20
> windows box.

=09If there is, I don't think it's terribly reliable. :) I unluckily=20
still end up putting NetBIOS on if I need to share resources between=20
Windows machines. I tried to share with just TCP/IP but when you go to=20
network neighborhood it's hit or miss if it'll see anything. Once you've=20
actually got things connected it seems a little more reliable.=20
=09Now, what I'd like to know is there any was I can kill=20
Windows95's keep alive packets. I.e. when I have a dial-up connection=20
(ppp with the -auto and -alias options,) with a time set up, Windows 9X=20
seems to ping the network and keeps it alive. :(

=09=09=09=09=09Rick


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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Alfred Perlstein [SMTP:bright@rush.net]
> Sent:	Sunday, May 09, 1999 1:41 PM
> To:	Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)
> Cc:	freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:	Re: Samba performance?
> 
> On Sun, 9 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > Anybody has performance numbers for Samba on FreeBSD? I am
> getting only
> > > > > > about 300KB/sec on write (10MBit/s Ethernet; 21041 cards on both
> ends).
> > > > > 
> > > > > have you tried any of the suggested options such as "read
> prediction"
> > > > > and raw write/read?  they are documented in the manpages...
> > > > 
> > > > I did not try them. The default for "write raw" is yes; "read
> prediction"
> > > > is obsolete and does not work in Samba 2.0. I did not build Samba,
> took it
> > > > from precompiled packages. smb.conf is straight from my previous
> Linux
> > > > installation except one option to lpr which caused me much grief
> when I
> > > > was wondering why damn thing does not want to print.
> > > >  
> > > > > what's the best you get between 2 windows hosts on your ethernet?
> > > > 
> > > > Over 900KB/sec. FTP from the Samba server reaches 1MB/sec. (KB and
> MB are
> > > > 1000 and 1000000 bytes here, for simplicity).
> > > 
> > > Tuning samba is a bit tricky, there are some socket options you may
> want
> > > to turn on, read more docs and experiment, you may also want to
> compile 
> > > it yourself looking at all the options available.
> > 
> > Weird. It should work out of the box.
> > 
> > > Was performance this bad under Linux as well?
> > 
> > Of course not (that is why I am asking). I don't recall exact numbers,
> but
> > I was certainly getting well over 500KB/sec. And read performance is
> > reasonable (about 900KB/sec). On local writes I get about 2.3MB/sec
> which
> > looks close to hard drive performance.
> 
> please, if possible post your machine's hardware configuration, there
> are several tuning tips people never do that may be hindering performance
> if you can give me this information I may be able to help more...
> 
> cpu, disk type, ram, etc...
> 
> if you are using IDE disks, i recommed you try to change the "flags"
> parameter to 0xa0ffa0ff and see if that helps, this will enable DMA
> on your hardrives.
> 
> -Alfred
> 
	My turn to chime in here.  I have similar problems with my samba
setup.  I have a 100BaseT network, and can get consistent 5000kb/sec through
FTP (I assume this is a disk limitation).  Any transactions that use samba
are significantly slower, usually 5x to 10x slower.  So obviously this is a
samba tuning issue.  I'll be darned if I can find anything that helps me
though.  I have checked out the 2 performance text files in
/usr/local/share/docs/samba/ to no avail.

	(yes I have DMA mode turned on)

	So if there is a solution to this, I'd be interested to hear it to.

	-Chris


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Well, as I said before, I use only TCP/IP and have no browsing problems =
at
all.  Maybe it's a configuration error, especially where samba is =
concerned,
as it can be touchy at times.  As far as keep-alives, you may want to =
run
tcpdump on the unix machine and see just that the packets are, and then
filter them from causing keep-alives or dialups in your ppp.conf.  I'm
willing to bet it's either an odd DNS lookup, or a SMB packet that is =
being
sent over the link for some strange reason.  I deny anything going over
ports 137-139 over my link to the outside world, and about once a every =
week
or two there will be a  blocked packet or two that one of the machines =
tried
to send over the link.  Don't ask me why because I have no idea.

Keep in mind that FreeBSD doesn't even speak NetBEUI (or IPX/SPX for =
the
most part) and therefore actually causes more problems for the samba
browsing when you have it installed.  Windows likes to default to =
NetBEUI
and when it can't contact the samba server via NetBEUI (which it never =
will
since it's not supported) it then has to fall back to TCP/IP.  Windows
doesn't always do this gracefully though.

As a matter of fact, the company where I work runs strictly TCP/IP and =
there
are thousands of computers on this network.  Browsing works fine.

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	rick hamell [SMTP:hamellr@dsinw.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, May 09, 1999 1:35 PM
> To:	John K
> Cc:	freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:	RE: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine
>=20
>=20
> > On a side note:
> > I heard somewhere that the Mircosoft IP stack includes NetBios
> information
> > in it=B4s TCP/IP headers ( //Computernames and so on) and that this =
is why
> > you can "browse the network" even if there=B4s no NetBeui on your=20
> > windows box.
>=20
> 	If there is, I don't think it's terribly reliable. :) I unluckily=20
> still end up putting NetBIOS on if I need to share resources between=20
> Windows machines. I tried to share with just TCP/IP but when you go =
to=20
> network neighborhood it's hit or miss if it'll see anything. Once =
you've=20
> actually got things connected it seems a little more reliable.=20
> 	Now, what I'd like to know is there any was I can kill=20
> Windows95's keep alive packets. I.e. when I have a dial-up connection =

> (ppp with the -auto and -alias options,) with a time set up, Windows =
9X=20
> seems to ping the network and keeps it alive. :(
>=20
> 					Rick


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Ok, ive got the 3 tar files for x-windows.  I've installed and built them 
using make.  I've got the right server.  when I try to use xfconfig86 it says 
not found.  I puit in the right path, but its not there.  Is is seperate?  Do 
I need to download the xf86config program? If so, where can I get it?  I 
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On Sun, 9 May 1999 Mongoos411@aol.com wrote:

> Ok, ive got the 3 tar files for x-windows.  I've installed and built them 
> using make.  I've got the right server.  when I try to use xfconfig86 it says 
> not found.  I puit in the right path, but its not there.  Is is seperate?  Do 
> I need to download the xf86config program? If so, where can I get it?  I 
> thought that it came with the x distribution.

the program's name is: xf86config

and the path is: /usr/X11R6/bin/

if you have compiled it with tcl available, you may have 
the program: XF86Setup available in /usr/X11R6/bin/, it's
the graphical Xfree setup program and usually easier to use.

good luck,
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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:


in re Samba throughput being dog-slow...

> > please, if possible post your machine's hardware configuration, there
> > are several tuning tips people never do that may be hindering performance
> > if you can give me this information I may be able to help more...
> > 
> > cpu, disk type, ram, etc...
> > 
> > if you are using IDE disks, i recommed you try to change the "flags"
> > parameter to 0xa0ffa0ff and see if that helps, this will enable DMA
> > on your hardrives.
> > 
> > -Alfred
> > 
> 	My turn to chime in here.  I have similar problems with my samba
> setup.  I have a 100BaseT network, and can get consistent 5000kb/sec through
> FTP (I assume this is a disk limitation).  Any transactions that use samba
> are significantly slower, usually 5x to 10x slower.  So obviously this is a
> samba tuning issue.  I'll be darned if I can find anything that helps me
> though.  I have checked out the 2 performance text files in
> /usr/local/share/docs/samba/ to no avail.
> 
> 	(yes I have DMA mode turned on)
> 
> 	So if there is a solution to this, I'd be interested to hear it to.

I would get sambe running on my local network here but the only windows
box i have has a cruddy 10mbit card (my other boxes are 100mbit), perhaps
later tonight I can get this up and give you guys some tips.
(I've had samba tuned up before, it's just been a while and several major
releases of samba since) :)

Another shot in the dark, try compiling/enabling TCP_NODELAY or something
that looks like that.

Please tell us if it solves your problem.

thanks,
-Alfred



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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> > > > > > Anybody has performance numbers for Samba on FreeBSD? I am getting only
> > > > > > about 300KB/sec on write (10MBit/s Ethernet; 21041 cards on both ends).
> > > > > 
> > > > > have you tried any of the suggested options such as "read prediction"
> > > > > and raw write/read?  they are documented in the manpages...
> > > > 
> > > > I did not try them. The default for "write raw" is yes; "read prediction"
> > > > is obsolete and does not work in Samba 2.0. I did not build Samba, took it
> > > > from precompiled packages. smb.conf is straight from my previous Linux
> > > > installation except one option to lpr which caused me much grief when I
> > > > was wondering why damn thing does not want to print.
> > > >  
> > > > > what's the best you get between 2 windows hosts on your ethernet?
> > > > 
> > > > Over 900KB/sec. FTP from the Samba server reaches 1MB/sec. (KB and MB are
> > > > 1000 and 1000000 bytes here, for simplicity).
> > > 
> > > Tuning samba is a bit tricky, there are some socket options you may want
> > > to turn on, read more docs and experiment, you may also want to compile 
> > > it yourself looking at all the options available.
> > 
> > Weird. It should work out of the box.
> > 
> > > Was performance this bad under Linux as well?
> > 
> > Of course not (that is why I am asking). I don't recall exact numbers, but
> > I was certainly getting well over 500KB/sec. And read performance is
> > reasonable (about 900KB/sec). On local writes I get about 2.3MB/sec which
> > looks close to hard drive performance.
> 
> please, if possible post your machine's hardware configuration, there
> are several tuning tips people never do that may be hindering performance
> if you can give me this information I may be able to help more...

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FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #4: Sat May  1 22:46:50 MSD 1999
    root@crydee.sai.msu.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/CRYDEE
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 180409766 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P54C (180.41-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x52c  Stepping=12
  Features=0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
real memory  = 41943040 (40960K bytes)
avail memory = 38334464 (37436K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0280000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Intel 82439> rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
ide_pci0: <Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
de0: <Digital 21041 Ethernet> rev 0x11 int a irq 11 on pci0.8.0
de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1
de0: address 00:80:48:e8:de:e3
de1: <Digital 21143 Fast Ethernet> rev 0x41 int a irq 10 on pci0.9.0
de1: 21143 [10-100Mb/s] pass 4.1
de1: address 00:80:48:cd:7b:e4
de2: <Digital 21143 Fast Ethernet> rev 0x30 int a irq 9 on pci0.10.0
de2: 21143 [10-100Mb/s] pass 3.0
de2: address 00:80:48:cd:0a:7e
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sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): <IBM-DTTA-351010>
wd0: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa
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wd2: 6204MB (12706470 sectors), 13446 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): <Maxtor 85120A8>
wd3: 4884MB (10003392 sectors), 9924 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa
ppc0: W83877F chipset (EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppb0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0: <Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 5P> HP ENHANCED PCL5,PJL
nlpt0: <generic printer> on ppbus 0
nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <generic parallel i/o> on ppbus 0
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus 0
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
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de0: enabling 10baseT port
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changing root device to wd0s1a
de1: enabling 10baseT port
de2: enabling 10baseT port
de1: enabling 100baseTX port
de2: enabling 100baseTX port

Transfers go through de0.

> if you are using IDE disks, i recommed you try to change the "flags"
> parameter to 0xa0ffa0ff and see if that helps, this will enable DMA
> on your hardrives.

Oh. I wonder why it is not the default? I have enabled it, but there's no
visible performance improvement with Samba.

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That particular option is turned on in my smb.conf file.  Always has been
actually, because i've been told that performance would be even worse with
out it.  Sorry I forgot to mention it before.

If it is needed, I can post my .conf files when I get home from work
tonight.

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Alfred Perlstein [SMTP:bright@rush.net]
> Sent:	Sunday, May 09, 1999 2:40 PM
> To:	Christopher Michaels
> Cc:	Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists); freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:	RE: Samba performance?
> 
> On Sun, 9 May 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> 
> 
> in re Samba throughput being dog-slow...
> 
> > > please, if possible post your machine's hardware configuration, there
> > > are several tuning tips people never do that may be hindering
> performance
> > > if you can give me this information I may be able to help more...
> > > 
> > > cpu, disk type, ram, etc...
> > > 
> > > if you are using IDE disks, i recommed you try to change the "flags"
> > > parameter to 0xa0ffa0ff and see if that helps, this will enable DMA
> > > on your hardrives.
> > > 
> > > -Alfred
> > > 
> > 	My turn to chime in here.  I have similar problems with my samba
> > setup.  I have a 100BaseT network, and can get consistent 5000kb/sec
> through
> > FTP (I assume this is a disk limitation).  Any transactions that use
> samba
> > are significantly slower, usually 5x to 10x slower.  So obviously this
> is a
> > samba tuning issue.  I'll be darned if I can find anything that helps me
> > though.  I have checked out the 2 performance text files in
> > /usr/local/share/docs/samba/ to no avail.
> > 
> > 	(yes I have DMA mode turned on)
> > 
> > 	So if there is a solution to this, I'd be interested to hear it to.
> 
> I would get sambe running on my local network here but the only windows
> box i have has a cruddy 10mbit card (my other boxes are 100mbit), perhaps
> later tonight I can get this up and give you guys some tips.
> (I've had samba tuned up before, it's just been a while and several major
> releases of samba since) :)
> 
> Another shot in the dark, try compiling/enabling TCP_NODELAY or something
> that looks like that.
> 
> Please tell us if it solves your problem.
> 
> thanks,
> -Alfred


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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> Another shot in the dark, try compiling/enabling TCP_NODELAY or something
> that looks like that.

It is enabled in the smb.conf file.

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rick hamell wrote:
> 
> > On a side note:
> > I heard somewhere that the Mircosoft IP stack includes NetBios information
> > in itīs TCP/IP headers ( //Computernames and so on) and that this is why
> > you can "browse the network" even if thereīs no NetBeui on your
> > windows box.
> 
>         If there is, I don't think it's terribly reliable. :) I unluckily
> still end up putting NetBIOS on if I need to share resources between
> Windows machines. I tried to share with just TCP/IP but when you go to
> network neighborhood it's hit or miss if it'll see anything. Once you've
> actually got things connected it seems a little more reliable.

Hi Rick,

That has always been my experience. Part of the browse requirement
since WFW 3.1 has always been the presence of a browse master and
NETBEUI, but times change. When you have been doing things a certain
way for a long time, you don't know what is truth and what is legend.
The browse master is supposed to be an NT Server. Unfortunately, every
Win9x machine that is setup using the default configuration wants to
be the browse master. Shutdown the server and one of the Win9x
machines become the master. When the NT server has finished rebooting,
it and the new Win9x browse master get into a hissing contest because
each want to be the master. Win9x won't give it up and NT won't quit
trying to become the master. You can watch the packet activity. For
each exchange between the Server and the Win9x machine, an entry is
added to the NT Server's event log. The process of discovery by the NT
browse master, according to legend, can cause broadcast storms when
you have Netbeui and a large number of computers on the network. I
have never seen a broadcast storm. You can stop Win9x from trying to
become the browse master by choosing the disable option in the "File
and Printer Sharing" properties on the Win9x machines. You still have
to have a server that is the master browser. When you start looking
around or have just rebooted the server, there is a delay until you
can browse the network neightborhood. I think the delay is while the
discovery process is going on. You can share based on previous mounts
but new discoveries are slow to come by. When I worked at Siemens
Power Corp., we were setup such that we could browse more than our
local network segment. This caused the startup to be even longer. This
was an option in the routers or switches the network people were
using. We never had to worry about what it was they did because it
worked. Each network, however, had to have it's own browse master.

>         Now, what I'd like to know is there any was I can kill
> Windows95's keep alive packets. I.e. when I have a dial-up connection
> (ppp with the -auto and -alias options,) with a time set up, Windows 9X
> seems to ping the network and keeps it alive. :(

My demand dial-up is all done with a NATD process on NT because it was
setup months before I started using FreeBSD. There are only five
machines on my home system. I have an activity timeout of 10 minutes
and after 10 minutes of no real activity NT hangs up. I only allow
tcp/ip on the dial up but netbios may be included via tcp/ip. My keep
alive is the mailers. I set them up to check for mail every 3 minutes
and 10 minutes after I kill the mailer, the dialup is dropped. There
is a Win9x machine on the network full time and it doesn't affect the
dial up. The Win98 system also has browse master disabled. Win 9x used
to not be able to remember a dialup password unless you routed IPX or
Netbeui with your tcp/ip. I don't have any idea if that is still true.

-- 
Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> > Another shot in the dark, try compiling/enabling TCP_NODELAY or something
> > that looks like that.
> 
> It is enabled in the smb.conf file.

have you tried with it off?  It may hurt raw throughput.

also, try enabling large TCP windows:

sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1

that can give a signifigant performance boost.

-Alfred




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Isn't that the tcp extensions in the rc.conf file?
-Chris

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> 
> On Sun, 9 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > 
> > > Another shot in the dark, try compiling/enabling TCP_NODELAY or
> something
> > > that looks like that.
> > 
> > It is enabled in the smb.conf file.
> 
> have you tried with it off?  It may hurt raw throughput.
> 
> also, try enabling large TCP windows:
> 
> sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1
> 
> that can give a signifigant performance boost.
> 
> -Alfred
> 
> 
> 
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I'm looking to make a quick C program (genpass.c) that can be used in
scripts like the following (this is only a quick example, it may not be 100%
correct):

  #!/bin/sh
  # $1 is a username, $2 is a new password for that user
  export hashedpass = `echo $2 | genpass`
  chpass -p "$hashedpass" $1

My only problem in doing this is my incomplete understanding of crypt().
From reading the help files, it appears as if a random 4-byte salt and a
4-byte "iteration count" are used as the second parameter.  I have no clue
what the "iteration count" should be.  I looked at the
/usr/src/usr.bin/passwd sources, but I still couldn't fully understand this.
If someone could write a quick C program to do this, I would be very
thankful (especially if they could also explain the process).  Thanks...

        - Jeff Poole


PS I am relatively new to BSD, but I have been using C for a while, so keep
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Does anyone know the type code in FreeBSD 3.1 Fdisk for a FAT32
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On Sun, 9 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> > > Another shot in the dark, try compiling/enabling TCP_NODELAY or something
> > > that looks like that.
> > 
> > It is enabled in the smb.conf file.
> 
> have you tried with it off?  It may hurt raw throughput.

No difference.
 
> also, try enabling large TCP windows:
> 
> sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1
> 
> that can give a signifigant performance boost.

No difference.

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Hi list;

I am in the process of setting up a firewall for my internal Freebsd LAN
The network looks like this:

Internet-----[ DSL router ]----[ fbsd firewall ]----[  LAN  ]
                              ep1             ep0

I have compiled my kernel for IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
Added support for net interface ep1 in kernel
Enabled ipfw in the /etc/rc.conf
and I am using the 'simple' rule-set in /etc/rc.firewall to test setup
All machines (router, firewall and LAN) are on the same subnet /27
All vital services DNS, HTTP and SMTP are running on the LAN machines

My questions are:
1.) What kind of gateway or routing mechanism should I use to force
incoming packets from the Internet to arrive at ep1 and pass through the
firewall and to ep0 and to the LAN 

2.) outgoing packets from LAN to pass through ep0, firewall, ep1, router
and to the Internet.

The LAN consept here is probably misleading because all machines are in
the same /27 subnet.


Thank you

Dan



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rick hamell wrote:

> > I've got the kern and mfsroot floppies built. What do I do next?
>
>         Put the kern.flp disk into the drive. Turn off the computer. Turn
> it on and follow the instructions. Check out
> www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html for precise instructions.
>
>                                                 Rick

Thanks for the reply! I suppose that I did sound like a bloody moron--I did
read the link and booted as you said. Looked at the hardware install routine
and saw that my NEC-4300a cdrom changer was not supported (I guess) cuz it
had CONF to the left of it. It is an IDE type. I had other CONF as well that
may or may not be relevant. I didn't at that particular go-round save& exit.
I thought that I should resolve these hardware conflicts first. What I should
have asked was--once this hardware stuff is settled, I suppose that I will be
asked what partition I want freeBSD installed on? Which leads me to my next
question--I have a Compaq Deskpro XE 466 (it's a 486-66Mhz w/20M RAM) and a
Quantum 1.xxxG HD. When I installed the HD,  Quantum's Disk Manager had to be
used to partition the HD, cuz I was told that my BIOS would only see 500Megs.
I have 1 DOS partition. If I proceed with freeBSD, I would want a second,
small DOS partition (which I wont compress) and of course a freeBSD
partition. Do I HAVE to do this with Quantum's Disk Manager first, or do(can)
I use FIPS to do it all?

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> read the link and booted as you said. Looked at the hardware install routine
> and saw that my NEC-4300a cdrom changer was not supported (I guess) cuz it
> had CONF to the left of it. It is an IDE type. I had other CONF as well that

	When I had a changer it was simply detected as four drives. There 
is not a special driver for CDROM drives.

> I have 1 DOS partition. If I proceed with freeBSD, I would want a second,
> small DOS partition (which I wont compress) and of course a freeBSD
> partition. Do I HAVE to do this with Quantum's Disk Manager first, or do(can)
> I use FIPS to do it all?

	I've never used any disk partion stuff under FreeBSD, BUT I think 
you shouldn't have any problems.


				Rick


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