From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 5 22:29:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [198.78.58.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A03B37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 22:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gh@over-yonder.net) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 1012) id 1E19C62D0A; Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:29:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:29:05 -0500 From: GH To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems Message-ID: <20010706002905.B83443@over-yonder.net> References: <20010705235138.A83443@over-yonder.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 09:55:11PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Actually, the growing realization (at least to me) that the problem > probably cannot be solved except via software tools, unless the FreeBSD > community gets more like the NetBSD community in terms of awareness- > which can only happen if it happens. > > I don't know how you feel about it, but I believe that this *is* > productive. We can then spend a lot less time with unmet expectations, > once the expecations are more realistically set, yes? Absolutely, I agree entirely that Something Is Wrong and that the FreeBSD development community would benefit from some modifications to policy and more importantly to attitude The general realization is most productive, but you have to go around all the bickering. Nothing really. We now return to regularly scheduled programming. gh > -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message