From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Aug 18 9:13:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9126B37B400; Sun, 18 Aug 2002 09:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F3243E3B; Sun, 18 Aug 2002 09:13:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13667; Sun, 18 Aug 2002 09:13:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3D5FC7A9.5090908@owt.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 09:13:29 -0700 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, es-mx MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Ullrich Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's dead Jim References: <2F6DCE1EFAB3BC418B5C324F13934C9601D23142@exchange.corp.cre8.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott Ullrich wrote: > Yes, but what about Apple? Surely OSX sales are increasing BSD > installation counts? Netcraft hasn't detected sites I use since they upgraded to 4.5. They all show up as "unknown". > > -SU > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alfred Pythonstein [mailto:pythonstein@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:24 AM > To: chat@freebsd.org > Cc: hackers@freebsd.org > Subject: It's dead Jim > > > Mad propz to Hiten 'imbecile' Pandya, btw... > > It is official -- Netcraft is now confirming: *BSD is dying > > One more crippling bombshell crushed the already beleaguered *BSD community > when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now > down to > less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a > recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market > share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is > collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead > last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test. > > You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The > hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't > be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking > very > bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose > market > share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. > > FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core > developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD > developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point > more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying. > > Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers. > > OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many > users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD > posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about > 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the > volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A > recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. > Therefore > there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with > the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts. > > Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went > out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. > Now > BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house. > > All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. > *BSD > is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is > to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD > continues to > decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For > all practical purposes, *BSD is dead. > > Fact: *BSD is dying > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message