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Date:      Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:50:44 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, "James Howard" <howardjp@Glue.umd.edu>, "Brad Knowles" <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc:        "Konstantinos Konstantinidis" <kkonstan@duth.gr>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: A breath of fresh air..
Message-ID:  <a0510101bb837670c807d@[10.0.1.16]>
In-Reply-To: <015f01c17fae$74ebc4d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112071730170.8200-100000@y.glue.umd.edu> <006c01c17f70$8782de50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <a05101005b837406671a6@[10.0.1.16]> <00de01c17fa1$06539e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <a0510100cb83754b63467@[10.0.1.16]> <015f01c17fae$74ebc4d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>

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At 7:06 AM +0100 on 2001/12/08, Anthony Atkielski wrote:

>>  X is not necessarily a "standard", certainly
>>  not one that you are required to implement.
>
>  Really?  So much for arguments in favor of UNIX based on X, eh?

	No, not really.  X is desirable for certain Unix applications, 
yes.  But not required.

>>  Moreover, downloading and installing X is not that
>>  big of a deal.
>
>  So why isn't the Mac OS X simply an X server?

	Because, so far, Apple has decided not to include one.

>  Lots of weird stuff.  Weird stuff makes me nervous.

	What difference does it make if it's called "WindowServer" or 
"xinit"?  Or "Eudora 5.1" or "mutt"?  Or "Opera" or "Opera"?

	Frankly, I don't see a whole lot here that I find unusual.

>>  There's a lot of more unusual looking stuff here
>>  (mostly Aqua applications), but there are also
>>  some pretty familiar faces ...
>
>  It's the unusual stuff that always worries me.

	Man is always afraid of the unknown.  That's fine.  You don't 
have to use most of the unusual stuff if you don't want to.

>>  /sbin:
>>  SystemStarter   fsck_msdos      mount_afp ...
>
>  My guess is that a great deal hides behind SystemStarter.

	Do you find the bootloader to be scary?  If not, did you find it 
to be scary before you started looking at it?  Only the Aqua stuff is 
not available in Darwin -- the source code for everything else is 
publicly available, if you want to look at it.

>  Kind of like Windows 3.x, no?

	No, not really.  More like NeXTstep.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

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