From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 7 23: 0:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from riker.skynet.be (riker.skynet.be [195.238.3.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625AC37B420 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.16] (ip-27.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.27] (may be forged)) by riker.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.16) with ESMTP id fB86xeY10424; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:59:40 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <015f01c17fae$74ebc4d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <006c01c17f70$8782de50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00de01c17fa1$06539e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <015f01c17fae$74ebc4d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:50:44 +0100 To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "James Howard" , "Brad Knowles" From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. Cc: "Konstantinos Konstantinidis" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 7:06 AM +0100 on 2001/12/08, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> X is not necessarily a "standard", certainly >> not one that you are required to implement. > > Really? So much for arguments in favor of UNIX based on X, eh? No, not really. X is desirable for certain Unix applications, yes. But not required. >> Moreover, downloading and installing X is not that >> big of a deal. > > So why isn't the Mac OS X simply an X server? Because, so far, Apple has decided not to include one. > Lots of weird stuff. Weird stuff makes me nervous. What difference does it make if it's called "WindowServer" or "xinit"? Or "Eudora 5.1" or "mutt"? Or "Opera" or "Opera"? Frankly, I don't see a whole lot here that I find unusual. >> There's a lot of more unusual looking stuff here >> (mostly Aqua applications), but there are also >> some pretty familiar faces ... > > It's the unusual stuff that always worries me. Man is always afraid of the unknown. That's fine. You don't have to use most of the unusual stuff if you don't want to. >> /sbin: >> SystemStarter fsck_msdos mount_afp ... > > My guess is that a great deal hides behind SystemStarter. Do you find the bootloader to be scary? If not, did you find it to be scary before you started looking at it? Only the Aqua stuff is not available in Darwin -- the source code for everything else is publicly available, if you want to look at it. > Kind of like Windows 3.x, no? No, not really. More like NeXTstep. -- Brad Knowles, H4sICIFgXzsCA2RtYS1zaWcAPVHLbsMwDDvXX0H0kkvbfxiwVw8FCmzAzqqj1F4dy7CdBfn7 Kc6wmyGRFEnvvxiWQoCvqI7RSWTcfGXQNqCUAnfIU+AT8OZ/GCNjRVlH0bKpguJkxiITZqes MxwpSucyDJzXxQEUe/ihgXqJXUXwD9ajB6NHonLmNrUSK9nacHQnH097szO74xFXqtlbT3il wMsBz5cnfCR5cEmci0Rj9u/jqBbPeES1I4PeFBXPUIT1XDSOuutFXylzrQvGyboWstCoQZyP dxX4dLx0eauFe1x9puhoi0Ao1omEJo+BZ6XLVNaVpWiKekxN0VK2VMpmAy+Bk7ZV4SO+p1L/ uErNRS/qH2iFU+iNOtbcmVt9N16lfF7tLv9FXNj8AiyNcOi1AQAA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message