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Date:      Fri, 4 Apr 2014 18:44:12 -0500
From:      "sindrome" <sindrome@gmail.com>
To:        "'Robert Huff'" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: pkgng vs. portupgrade reporting ports outdated
Message-ID:  <000301cf505f$c86f8260$594e8720$@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <000701cf505e$d42d9a20$7c88ce60$@gmail.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: sindrome [mailto:sindrome@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 6:37 PM
To: 'Robert Huff'
Cc: ports@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: pkgng vs. portupgrade reporting ports outdated

	It is my understanding it is generally a bad idea to mix the old and =
new package systems.  (It can be done, but it's beyond my pay grade and =
if you're asking this I'd guess it is - at the moment - beyond yours.) =
"pkgng"=20
can do almost everything the old system can, and does it better.
  (Now if it only had a replacement for pkg_sort ....)  Each records its =
status quo in distinct and incompatible ways.
	When I want to know what needs updating I use:

huff>> pkg version -v -l \<

	which I can send either to a file, or to e-mail, or to a script wrapped =
around portmaster.

	Does this help?

Here's more information

foo:107:/home/foobar# pkg update
Updating repository catalogue

foo:108:/home/foobar# pkg upgrade
Updating repository catalogue
Nothing to do

Now when I do a 'pkg_version -v|grep needs' I have=20

foo:109:/home/foobar# pkg_version -v |grep needs it shows 240 ports that =
need updating.


akonadi-1.11.0_1                    <   needs updating (port has 1.12.0)
analitza-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
apr-1.4.8.1.5.3                     <   needs updating (port has =
1.5.0.1.5.3)
ark-4.12.2                          <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
avogadro-1.1.1_1                    <   needs updating (port has =
1.1.1_2)
bash-4.2.45_1                       <   needs updating (port has =
4.3.0_1)
blinken-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
bomber-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
bovo-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ca_root_nss-3.15.4                  <   needs updating (port has 3.15.5)
cantor-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
clang33-3.3_5                       <   needs updating (port has 3.3_6)
cmake-2.8.12.1                      <   needs updating (port has =
2.8.12.1_4)
cups-client-1.5.4_1                 <   needs updating (port has 1.7.1)
cups-image-1.5.4_1                  <   needs updating (port has 1.7.1)
curl-7.35.0                         <   needs updating (port has 7.36.0)
cyrus-sasl-2.1.26_4                 <   needs updating (port has =
2.1.26_5)
dconf-0.14.1                        <   needs updating (port has =
0.14.1_1)
dejavu-2.34_2                       <   needs updating (port has 2.34_3)
docbook-4.1_4                       <   needs updating (port has 4.5_1)
docbook-4.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.5_1)
docbook-4.3                         <   needs updating (port has 4.5_1)
docbook-4.4_2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.5_1)
docbook-sk-4.1.2_4                  <   needs updating (port has 5.0_1)
docbook-xml-4.3                     <   needs updating (port has 5.0_1)
docbook-xml-4.4_1                   <   needs updating (port has 5.0_1)
docbook-xml-4.5                     <   needs updating (port has 5.0_1)
dragon-player-4.12.2                <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
eigen-3.2.0                         <   needs updating (port has 3.2.1)
facile-1.1_2                        <   needs updating (port has 1.1_3)
file-5.16                           <   needs updating (port has 5.18)
filelight-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
flex-2.5.38_2                       <   needs updating (port has 2.5.39)
fping-3.5                           <   needs updating (port has 3.8)
freetype2-2.5.2                     <   needs updating (port has 2.5.3)
gamin-0.1.10_6                      <   needs updating (port has =
0.1.10_7)
ghostscript9-9.06_4                 <   needs updating (port has 9.06_5)
gmp-5.1.3                           <   needs updating (port has =
5.1.3_1)
gnupg1-1.4.16                       <   needs updating (port has =
1.4.16_1)
gnutls-2.12.23_3                    <   needs updating (port has =
2.12.23_4)
granatier-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
gwenview-4.10.5_1                   <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
imlib2-1.4.6,2                      <   needs updating (port has =
1.4.6_1,2)
isc-dhcp42-server-4.2.6             <   needs updating (port has =
4.2.6_1)
ja-kiten-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
jovie-4.12.2                        <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
juk-4.12.2                          <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kaccessible-4.12.2                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kactivities-4.10.5_3                <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kactivitymanagerd-4.10.5_3          <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kajongg-4.10.5_1                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kalgebra-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kalzium-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kamera-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kanagram-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kapman-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kate-4.10.5_1                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
katomic-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kblackbox-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kblocks-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kbounce-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kbreakout-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kbruch-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kcalc-4.12.2                        <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kcharselect-4.12.2                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kcolorchooser-4.12.2                <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kde-base-artwork-4.12.2             <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kde-baseapps-4.10.5_1               <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kde-wallpapers-4.12.2               <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kde-workspace-4.10.5_2              <   needs updating (port has 4.11.8)
kde4-icons-oxygen-4.12.2            <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdeaccessibility-4.12.2             <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdeadmin-4.10.5                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdeartwork-4.10.5_1                 <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdeedu-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdegames-4.10.5_1                   <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdegraphics-4.10.5_1                <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.12.2       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.12.2  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdegraphics-svgpart-4.12.2          <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.12.2     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdelibs-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdemultimedia-4.12.2                <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdemultimedia-ffmpegthumbs-4.12.2   <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdenetwork-filesharing-4.12.2       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdepimlibs-4.10.5_3                 <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdeplasma-addons-4.10.5_1           <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdesdk-4.10.5_2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdetoys-4.10.5_1                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdeutils-4.10.5                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdewebdev-4.10.5_1                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdf-4.12.2                          <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kdiamond-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kfloppy-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kfourinline-4.12.2                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kgamma-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kgeography-4.12.2                   <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kgoldrunner-4.12.2                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kgpg-4.10.5                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
khangman-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kig-4.12.2                          <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kigo-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
killbots-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kio-audiocd-4.12.2                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kiriki-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kjumpingcube-4.12.2                 <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
klettres-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
klines-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kmag-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kmahjongg-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kmines-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kmix-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kmousetool-4.12.2                   <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kmouth-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kmplot-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
knavalbattle-4.12.2                 <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
knetwalk-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kolf-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kollision-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kolourpaint-4.12.2                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
konquest-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
konsole-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kopete-4.10.5_1                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kpat-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
krdc-4.10.5                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kremotecontrol-4.12.2               <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kreversi-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
krfb-4.10.5                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kruler-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ksaneplugin-4.12.2                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kscd-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kshisen-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ksirk-4.12.2                        <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ksnakeduel-4.12.2                   <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ksnapshot-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kspaceduel-4.12.2                   <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ksquares-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kstars-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ksudoku-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ksysguardd-4.11.6                   <   needs updating (port has 4.11.8)
ktimer-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ktouch-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
ktuberling-4.12.2                   <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kturtle-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kubrick-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
kwordquiz-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libGL-7.6.1_4                       <   needs updating (port has 9.1.7)
libexif-0.6.21                      <   needs updating (port has =
0.6.21_1)
libgcrypt-1.5.3                     <   needs updating (port has =
1.5.3_1)
libiconv-1.14_1                     <   needs updating (port has 1.14_3)
libinotify-20110829                 <   needs updating (port has =
20120419_2)
libkcddb-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libkcompactdisc-4.12.2              <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libkdcraw-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libkdeedu-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libkdegames-4.12.2                  <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libkexiv2-4.12.2                    <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libkgapi-0.4.4                      <   needs updating (port has 2.0.1)
libkipi-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libkmahjongg-4.12.2                 <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libkonq-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libksane-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
libtheora-1.1.1_3                   <   needs updating (port has =
1.1.1_4)
libyaml-0.1.4_3                     <   needs updating (port has 0.1.6)
lskat-4.12.2                        <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
m4-1.4.17,1                         <   needs updating (port has =
1.4.17_1,1)
marble-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
mpfr-3.1.2                          <   needs updating (port has =
3.1.2_1)
mutt-1.5.22                         <   needs updating (port has =
1.5.23_1)
mysql55-client-5.5.36               <   needs updating (port has 5.5.37)
mysql55-server-5.5.36               <   needs updating (port has 5.5.37)
nepomuk-core-4.10.5_1               <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
nepomuk-core-4.12.2                 <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
nepomuk-widgets-4.10.5              <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
nepomuk-widgets-4.12.2              <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
nspr-4.10.3                         <   needs updating (port has 4.10.4)
ocaml-3.12.1_1                      <   needs updating (port has =
4.00.1_1)
okular-4.10.5_3                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
openldap-client-2.4.38              <   needs updating (port has 2.4.39)
p11-kit-0.20.1                      <   needs updating (port has 0.20.2)
p5-Algorithm-C3-0.08                <   needs updating (port has 0.09)
p5-Class-C3-0.25                    <   needs updating (port has 0.26)
p5-Class-Method-Modifiers-2.09      <   needs updating (port has 2.10)
p5-DBD-mysql-4.026                  <   needs updating (port has 4.027)
p5-Data-Dumper-2.145                <   needs updating (port has 2.151)
p5-Data-Dumper-Concise-2.021_1      <   needs updating (port has 2.022)
p5-ExtUtils-Helpers-0.021           <   needs updating (port has 0.022)
p5-GD-2.52                          <   needs updating (port has 2.53)
p5-Getopt-Long-Descriptive-0.096    <   needs updating (port has 0.097)
p5-IO-Socket-SSL-1.967              <   needs updating (port has =
1.975_1)
p5-Import-Into-1.002000             <   needs updating (port has =
1.002001)
p5-Parse-Pidl-4.0.13                <   needs updating (port has 4.0.16)
p5-namespace-clean-0.24             <   needs updating (port has 0.25)
pairs-4.12.2                        <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
palapeli-4.12.2                     <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
pango-1.34.1_1                      <   needs updating (port has =
1.34.1_2)
parley-4.12.2                       <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
pciids-20140206                     <   needs updating (port has =
20140402)
perl5-5.16.3_7                      <   needs updating (port has =
5.16.3_9)
pkg-1.2.6                           <   needs updating (port has =
1.2.7_2)
pkgconf-0.9.4                       <   needs updating (port has 0.9.5)
poppler-0.24.4                      <   needs updating (port has =
0.24.5_1)
poppler-qt4-0.24.4                  <   needs updating (port has 0.24.5)
portmaster-3.17.3                   <   needs updating (port has 3.17.4)
postgresql90-client-9.0.16          <   needs updating (port has 9.0.17)
print-manager-4.12.2                <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
py27-Jinja2-2.7.1                   <   needs updating (port has =
2.7.2_1)
py27-MarkupSafe-0.18                <   needs updating (port has 0.19)
py27-pykde4-4.10.5_1                <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
py27-pytz-2013.9_1,1                <   needs updating (port has =
2014.1.1,1)
py27-sphinx-1.2.1                   <   needs updating (port has 1.2.2)
python27-2.7.6_2                    <   needs updating (port has =
2.7.6_4)
qt4-corelib-4.8.5_2                 <   needs updating (port has =
4.8.5_3)
quazip-0.5.1                        <   needs updating (port has 0.6.2)
raptor2-2.0.13_1                    <   needs updating (port has =
2.0.13_2)
rasqal-0.9.31                       <   needs updating (port has 0.9.32)
rocs-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
rsync-3.1.0_1                       <   needs updating (port has =
3.1.0_2)
ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1                  <   needs updating (port has =
1.9.3.484_2,1)
samba36-3.6.22                      <   needs updating (port has 3.6.23)
serf-1.3.3                          <   needs updating (port has 1.3.4)
sox-14.4.1_2                        <   needs updating (port has =
14.4.1_3)
speex-1.2.r1_5,1                    <   needs updating (port has =
1.2.r1_6,1)
sqlite3-3.8.3.1                     <   needs updating (port has =
3.8.4.1)
step-4.12.2                         <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
stunnel-4.56                        <   needs updating (port has 5.00)
subversion-1.8.8                    <   needs updating (port has =
1.8.8_1)
sudo-1.8.9.p5                       <   needs updating (port has =
1.8.10.p2)
superkaramba-4.12.2                 <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
sweeper-4.12.2                      <   needs updating (port has 4.12.4)
syslog-ng-3.4.7                     <   needs updating (port has =
3.5.4.1)
talloc-2.0.8                        <   needs updating (port has 2.1.0)
tevent-0.9.18                       <   needs updating (port has 0.9.21)
vala-vapigen-0.20.1                 <   needs updating (port has =
0.20.1_1)
vim-lite-7.4.182                    <   needs updating (port has =
7.4.229)
webmin-1.670                        <   needs updating (port has 1.680)
xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_6            <   needs updating (port has =
2.21.15_1)
xorg-server-1.7.7_11,1              <   needs updating (port has =
1.12.4_4,1)
xplanet-1.3.0_2                     <   needs updating (port has =
1.3.0_3)
xterm-301_1                         <   needs updating (port has 303)





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