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Date:      Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:08:17 -0500
From:      jacks@sage-american.com
To:        "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, "Giorgos Keramidas" <charon@labs.gr>, "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" <root@pukruppa.de>
Cc:        <current@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: anonymous-ftp cracked
Message-ID:  <3.0.5.32.20010913090817.011559f8@mail.sage-american.com>
In-Reply-To: <001501c13c0c$7d077780$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
References:  <20010912211632.A65756@hades.hell.gr>

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Ted: I've been watching this one because I've HAD to allow uploads to
incoming because of a need for such a place article submissions from our
Tech mag website from 175+ countries.

Your tips for monitoring (like the script for a daily listing of the
directory) are so simple and obvious it put a smile on my face. Thanks! LUV
this list!

At 09:28 PM 9.12.2001 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Giorgos
>>Keramidas
>>
>>Another common thing done in writable incoming/ directories is to create a
>>file of fixed size, say 100 Mb, and use vnconfig to mount this file as the
>>incoming/ directory of an FTP server.  Then there's only about 100 Mb of
>>space available in your incoming/ and nobody can store tons of data in
there,
>>wasting your disk space until disks are full.
>>
>
>Hi Uli and Giorgos,
>
>  I've had a bit of experience with this sort of thing and I have to say that
>nobody should be running an open FTP server that allows uploading to anyone
>unless they are willing to take the time to monitor it - and I mean every
>day, preferably several times a day.
>
>100MB is plenty of space for some jerk to upload his collection
>of Sally SpreadEagle in all her silicon glory.  If that happens
>your going to find every bit of outbound bandwidth you have completely
>saturated.  If your unlucky enough to have your FTP server at an
>ISP you may find yourself fined heavily  (ie: overage charges)
>
>  Some people have a little script that runs out of cron and diffs the
>output of ls against the previous run and e-mails the maintainer when new
>files show up, others simply check by eye.  Whatever works for you is fine,
>but don't think that you can just put out public storage for anyone to use
>as they see fit and just ignore it anymore.
>
>
>Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
>Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
>Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
>
>
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Server Admin

Sage-American
http://www.sage-american.com
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