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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:10:22 -0400
From:      Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org>
To:        William Palfreman <william@palfreman.com>, "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Fred Clift <fclift@verio.net>, John Prince <johnp@lodgenet.com>
Subject:   Re: ATA Atapi 4.6 Release
Message-ID:  <20020619031022.BE87EBB2C@i8k.babbleon.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020618233054.E37028-100000@bell.lan.palfreman.com>
References:  <20020618233054.E37028-100000@bell.lan.palfreman.com>

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On Tuesday 18 June 2002 07:02 pm, William Palfreman wrote:
| On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote:
| > One thing that you are missing here is that the majority of people
| > that are running STABLE code are not installing brand-new systems
| > from CD ISO images.
|
| Hmm, interesting I had a hard disk blowout between 4.6RC (on -STABLE)
| and 4.6 Release.  Having the usual chicken & egg problem on this
| floppyless machine I had to do a quick install of 4.5 to download the
| 4.6-mini iso and burn it onto a CD, then wiping, putting down the final
| partitions and installing 4.6.  Earlier 4.5 installed fine, but 4.6
| panicked partway through the install (extracting bin?).  I didn't think
| anything of it, just assumed the CD was faulty and installed off the net
| instead.  That was using a Freecom cheapo IDE CDRW (8x4x24?) from this
| January.
|
| > For a substantial proportion of people that run FreeBSD, the new
| > stuff comes in the form of full releases on CDROM.  (which accounts
| > to a great extent for why so many people were asking "where's 4.6"
| > recently after the release date slipped a couple of times.)
| >
| > It seems to me that the majority of people who recently encountered
| > at least the CDROM problems were doing first-time installs from CD.
|
| That's it.  Mine didn't work.  It is very unusual for me to install off
| a CD, but on this one time it crapped out once it started to do big bulk
| data transfers for the main extraction.  I don't think I'd have ever
| noticed were it not for this thread.
|
| Does this mean there are likely to be problems burning CD-R discs with
| burncd?  Its just I thought I had a bad batch of CDs, what with
| virtually all the CDs I made after a couple of months ago while tracking
| 4.5-STABLE being no good.

Well, I've been burning CDs without difficulty (or without any more than 
usual), but I *am* using the "workaround" and have been for some time 
(setting DMA mode for both ATA and ATAPI).  That just happens to be the way I 
was *already* doing it before I got the ATA updates, so naturally I just kept 
on doing it and blissfully reported that the new ATA code was just peachy, 
thanks.

Oh, well . . . .

So, anyway, the point is that if you get better success based on turning DMA 
on, then probably the news is causing the trouble; if it doesn't make any 
difference then it seems less likely (though not certain, of course--there 
could be some *other* thing that the new code is doing wrong.

|
| Regards,
| Bill.

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