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Date:      Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:41:59 +0300
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
To:        cjclark@alum.mit.edu
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>, Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@theinternet.com.au>, Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@freebsd-services.com
Subject:   Re: Copyright Contradiction in libalias
Message-ID:  <20010823014158.B4824@hades.hell.gr>
In-Reply-To: <20010821162913.B313@blossom.cjclark.org>; from cristjc@earthlink.net on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:29:13PM -0700
References:  <cristjc@earthlink.net> <200108202249.f7KMnjU93566@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20010821091441.F21855@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <006e01c12a43$48f9cb30$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010821114020.T313@blossom.cjclark.org> <20010821231841.B96292@hades.hell.gr> <20010821153116.Z313@blossom.cjclark.org> <15234.58543.854779.892964@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010821162913.B313@blossom.cjclark.org>

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From: Crist J. Clark <cristjc@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Copyright Contradiction in libalias
Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:29:13PM -0700

> On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:46:07PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote:
>
> > However, I can't retroactively take away the rights of anyone who has
> > gotten my 'public domain' software.
> 
> You can't do anything. You have no more rights to the software than
> anyone else does (except the ability to say you wrote it).

Even that (the ability to say you wrote it) might be difficult under
certain circumstances.  For instance, assuming that you release
something to the public domain, and you suspect that someone's brand
new and shining binary release of something that behaves like your own
code is based on it, there is no clear way of determining whether the
claim 'it was me who originally wrote this' is true or false.

The recent thread about networking code in Windows and BSD
implementation of the IP family of protocols is a good example of such
a case :)

> > Back to the original question, Charles Mott is the original author of
> > said code, and he can release his software under any license he so
> > pleases.
> 
> So can FreeBSD with or without his consent since it is public domain
> software.

Yep.  True.  The only problem is that if Charles Mott makes changes at
a later date to his codebase, changes cannot be merged to the FreeBSD
version without permission from him, even if the patches apply cleanly
and break nothing that FreeBSD uses.

Any future changes that Charles Mott makes to versions that are not
explicitly declared by him to be public domain software, have to be
rewritten from scratch by FreeBSD folk.

-giorgos

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