From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 23 13:58:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA98BDE; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D7AC2FDE; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6NDw0EL057087; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:58:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6NDvxCr057084; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:57:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:57:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Niclas Zeising Subject: Re: Need help untangling Xorg behavior on Haswell board, KMS, etc. etc. In-Reply-To: <51EE8546.6030803@freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <51E99691.1090808@reynoldsnet.org> <51EE6256.4020902@freebsd.org> <51EE8546.6030803@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: John Reynolds , x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:58:01 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Niclas Zeising wrote: > On 2013-07-23 14:59, Warren Block wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Niclas Zeising wrote: >> >>> In general, running without a xorg.conf should work, but there are a lot >>> of different hardware and setups out there, and just because it works on >>> Linux does not mean it works on FreeBSD without xorg.conf. If you want >>> to have more control of exactly what's going on, a config is probably to >>> prefer. >>> If you use xorg without HAL, you must have a config at least detailing >>> your input devices for them to work properly. >> >> My experience is that input device sections are not needed unless custom >> settings are needed in them. X autodetects them fine without HAL. > > I've had trouble in the past, at least with mice... Ah. PS/2 mice, maybe? I admit I have not tried one of those in a long, long time.